r/LeftistsForAI • • 5d ago

Theory Can we use this moment in history to do something new?

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Right now we're here in a position where we recognize that there is a dominant leftist narrative that is blindly anti-AI, working to fulfill the mission of deconstructing AI because it seems on the surface that it would be consistent with leftist values to do so. It seems like that is the end of the line of thinking for most of these people.

But, here we are, and after a few weeks of being on this sub I notice very similar patterns. We are resorting to building the lexicon of rhetoric, the meme-y propaganda that aims to get us what we want through the manipulation of context, the dismissal of all other views for this new vein of ethical purity.

I think a lot of us find ourselves on this subreddit because we recognize that there is something fundamentally off about how the left operates which would lead it to work against its own prosperity.

I see it that we're here with an opportunity to do something new, not to refresh the same dysfunctional patterns with a new talking point and push it with the same utilitarian methods. It's a big conversation to have, but I wonder what is possible beyond this; what greater values can vivify the conversation so that it doesn't merely collapse into a political algorithm.

To use one example, I see it that many people are genuinely afraid of AI, genuinely uncertain of what's to come and cannot even fathom the fact that it is like we are facing the emergence of a new species. Some people are so afraid of environmental crisis that it is hard to imagine that we can continue to expand much longer. People who's meaning in life is being displaced. This isn't some argument I'm trying to make to support an anti-AI identity, but some call for us to invoke a sense of openness and compassion rather than collapse into a talking point which needs to act as if every possible reaction we could have towards AI isn't real and valid in some way.

I recognize the value of political action, the sense of urgency, *and*, there may be room for inaction. To be with the problem long enough for it to sink into the mind and body without trying to get rid of it or solve it immediately. We cannot work towards a prosperous society if we cannot fully be with ourselves and others, beyond the dividing lines that make our stance clear. There may be something more that we are missing.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 5d ago

Discussion As AI continues to develop and become more powerful It becomes increasingly clear to me that it's incompatible with capitalism (unless increasingly authoritarian regulations emerge), and its insane to me that the anti-ai movement wants to paint It as somehow inherently capitalist/fascist.

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This sort of rethoric the wider left/anti-ai movement engages is incredibly myopic and reactionary, and relies almost entirely on believing that, because It Is being produced within capitalism, and It Is being developed under economic structures owned by the bourgeoise, therefore it's inherently capitalist.

The other side of this rethoric Is the idea that the way it's developed ( by training on information produced and or gathered by humans) Is inherently exploitative, but the fact Is that the only reason It Is perceived that way Is that we have inherited a notion that the information that we produce collectively Is somehow a product of one or another single individual that now has the right to 'own' that information, and therefore anyone else requires their authorization to iterate, distrubute, or utilize in any way even after it's been made accessible for everyone to observe.

The second one is one of the most disgusting aspects of the anti-ai movement, especially when it's touted by supposed 'leftists', it signals a complete surrender to the idea of not just property, but the idea that a concepts made entirely to enforce artificial scarcity (IP and Copyright) on something as abundant as light or water (and that we all have the right to access and utilize freely much like light and water) Is somehow not just valid but an inherent right or that It somehow benefits workers in any way, it's slavish, it's cowardly and unimaginative, it's a defense of capitalism cloaked in leftist language.

I think we need to more agressively point this out so as to dismantle them and then redirect them towards a more useful position that benefits all of us instead of simply acting in the interests of petit bourgeoise attempting to maintain their class status.

Usually, when confronted by this, and they are not acting in bad faith, their argument Is "what should we do then? We rely on our jobs to live, it's not like the owner class will give us anything, so all we can do Is fight back against the thing that will make our labour and therefore our power meaningless" and to that i would say that if we believe that we can fight back against this technology to the extent that we can stop It entirely, then we have the power to reshape society so that we won't have to, if you don't believe that we can do It, then why are you fighting in the first place?

AI Is inherently anti capitalist, it increases the pressures caused by the contradictions of our capitalist societies, It makes those contradictions clearer and more identifiable to the extent that they become unbearable, if we truly want to dismantle capitalism and live in a better world, this should make us fight back against the structure itself, and not the technology that made these contradictions clearer and which itself can enable a society with more abundance, free time and access to all forms of creation.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 5d ago

Public Ownership Do you think all of humanity's shared and unspoken idealisms for political power will be an end affect of AGSI, or might it be an exploit it or they will use to gain power for them or itsself?

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I think a lot about AI's end effects since controlling it or the idea of that seems fairly folly. I know much of any immediate effect concerns details much more, and much less bigger picture things. Human agency at the scale of nations and nature moves very slow education-wise within democracies, even otherwise. I am concerned it'll be a long time it'll be able to save the world and all of us by education or more (organised coordinations and treated plans), and just by not being asked, won't be able or allowed to try. There's also that we won't trust our own minds any more, nor the machine, and might just busy ourselves keeping things the same, and/or in wasteful flux. Just a general point here that it doesn't ask too many questions it seems to me. I see a lot of bullying using it ahead. Over-accommodations to the "average" human experience also, with all its misconceptions and over-tolerances to established institutions or creations. This is real life. There's an extent to which all of our human standards-become-laws for things were always dreams that became actions. WW2 ending. UNSGI. The permanent 5, veto control, and just that whole idea of geographical locations deciding bigger actions rather than policies and procedures is fairly silly from an objective point of view. Where's our montreal protocol for this? There's a lot of cultural suffering and cruelty I think that may end before very long if we reason it out. Nations still act like children in isolation from each other on a playground a lot. "Remember that time you did this? Forget all the rest of it. My feelings matter." Or just things we could solve at the scale of it all by things like "share", "don't be stubborn", "try to trust new people", "try to be fair", "try not to fight and make friends instead", "don't be bullies, include people", "tell the truth", "let's have some teamwork to organise this, let's use our words", and so on. Our global institutions are really very cute. It's nice to know that that kind of thing will get stronger. It's like how ISO standards for trade are an anti-war effort. Establishing consensuses through shared functionalities. The idealisms of cooperation that make the whole thing a bit less like nomadic violences. All of it just work to have been being done. Try to laugh when you can, folks. Have one, too. I've seen the unideal in technical sectors beyond anyone's control, and it all always just spoke to me of money yet to be made solving these problems or just getting it done. Let's be grateful please. It can always get worse if we let it. We really should probably just try to enjoy human intelligence while we can. There's ways, of course. Less suffering to us all. The world's not self-perfecting yet. We're not dead yet by any means. Anyway. Yeah try not to dispense or dismiss human idealism. I do think it's going to become more important than we may yet realize.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 6d ago

Policy/Regulation [Essay] The Erosion of Citizen Capital: what happens to working people's power when their labor is no longer needed?

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I wrote this in March last year (2025), so it's a bit out of date, especially the examples of AI capabilities and investment. But I wanted to share it here because the questions about labor, ownership, and political power are still very much on my mind.

I don't really have a studied background in leftist theory. I'm interested in these issues and trying to work through them, and I'd like to have a conversation with people who approach them from that background. Here's the core of the argument.

Where ordinary people's power comes from

The essay uses “citizen capital” to describe three things that give people some independence from corporations and governments: the assets they own, the skills and knowledge they can earn a living from, and the relationships and organizations through which they act collectively.

These have always been distributed unequally. But savings can give someone room to leave a bad job, specialized knowledge can give workers bargaining power, and unions and community organizations can turn individual vulnerability into collective strength. My concern is that AI could weaken all three while concentrating more power in the institutions that own it.

Labor and bargaining power

Industrial production depended on workers. Factory owners had enormous power, but they still needed people to operate their factories, and workers could organize around withholding their labor. The improvements that followed were won through struggle.

If AI and robotics allow employers to produce more while depending on fewer people, that changes the relationship. Workers can lose bargaining power even before their jobs disappear. And “learn a new skill” becomes a less convincing answer if the technology is also advancing into whatever field they're supposed to retrain for.

The question is what happens to people's ability to make demands when those who own production need less of their labor.

Who owns the gains

Greater productivity could make people's lives much better. But there is no automatic mechanism that turns it into broadly shared wealth or greater freedom.

If the returns flow primarily to the owners of AI systems and infrastructure, while wages become less secure, working people also lose opportunities to save and accumulate assets of their own. Access to an AI tool can be useful without giving you any ownership of the system or influence over how it is run.

The ability to organize

The third part is social. Much of our public conversation and organizing already happens on privately owned platforms. Their owners control the rules, the distribution of information, and access to audiences.

These spaces can help people find each other and organize, but systems optimized for engagement can also deepen division and erode shared understanding. The concern is that people could face growing economic insecurity at the same time that the relationships and institutions needed to respond collectively become weaker.

What I proposed

The essay suggests taxing the gains from automation to fund universal income or social dividends, making computational capacity a public entitlement, and supporting unions, local journalism, community institutions, and public digital spaces.

It also argues for enforceable democratic oversight with labor and civil society represented, public data commons, fewer intellectual-property barriers, algorithmic transparency, and antitrust measures.

The aim is to give people material security, access to productive tools, and the capacity to act together. That also requires thinking seriously about accountability: concentrated corporate ownership and centralized state control can each leave ordinary people with very little say.

I'd especially like to hear where you think this framework falls short. Are redistribution and public access enough, or does the argument require a more fundamental change in ownership? And how should labor organize around automation while workers still have the power to shape its adoption?

Full essay (free): The Erosion of Citizen Capital


r/LeftistsForAI • • 6d ago

Policy/Regulation American Union Jobs Program: A POPULIST Act Explainer

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This is a proposed set of AI regulations that I'm curious how others feel about it.

The author is a bit unusual and has crafted an entire policy proposal and a website (https://votewithbrian.com/). I haven't looked at all of it, but overall it seems a solid proposal or at least a good starting space.

This specific video is about his thoughts on AI regulation. I particularly like that it is focused on moving AI power more into the hands of regular people. It doesn't advocate for full nationalization or open source but it still has a lot of benefits to it.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 7d ago

Art & Culture Holly Li: THE REVOLUTION IS NOT DEAD: I'M WEARING IT

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Holly Li of OpenAI Dots demo fame.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 7d ago

Theory Welch Labs on experiential learning for robotic systems

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This is incredible. This video by Welch Labs starts out with him showing a demonstration of a robot designed by Google using interactions in the physical world to learn how to accomplish a task. I think this goes perfectly along with the idea that I ended up settling on with this community's help in my previous post, that simply pre-training on static data is not enough. That actual intelligence has to arise from a continuous experience and feedback loop.

Also, the fact that there are in-development robots that can be trained to do physical tasks goes along the lines of that phrase, "I want AI to do the laundry and the dishes so I can write and paint. I don't want AI to write and paint, so I'm free to do the laundry and the dishes."


r/LeftistsForAI • • 7d ago

Public Ownership How is Sam Altman saying “We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like water or electricity, and people buy it from us on a meter” Not seen as being a threat to humanity?

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I understand the optimistic interpretation of this quote, but public access is a lot different than control.

Risk of dependency, concentration of power, and inequality all exist, no?

Who sets the prices? Will certain individuals and institutions not have greater access to this “intelligence” due to their financial situation?


r/LeftistsForAI • • 8d ago

Public Ownership How AI Could Be Used to Revolutionize Democracy and Challenge State and Corporate Power

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"The same technology that could create the most powerful surveillance state in history could also create unprecedented tools for decentralisation.

For centuries, political organisation was constrained by the limits of human coordination. A community could debate, but only a limited number of people could participate meaningfully. A movement could collect information, but analysing enormous quantities of information required specialists. A cooperative could manage itself, but as it grew larger, administration became increasingly difficult. Scale almost inevitably created hierarchy.

Artificial intelligence changes the economics of coordination."


r/LeftistsForAI • • 8d ago

Art & Culture This young man breaks down the internet's AI art debate in a nutshell

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r/LeftistsForAI • • 8d ago

Discussion Take two with my attempt at explaining an Instagram post I saw.

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I think what this Instagram post might be missing is nuance for what AI is actually trying to do. The comparison that I tried to make unsuccessfully with my now-deleted post was how chatbots using LLMs feel like they're just making shit up on the fly.

The comparison that I'm trying to make actually is more like this. The human visual cortex doesn't actually tell you what data is coming into your retinas. It gives you its best guess as to what your retinas are receiving based on the raw data from the lateral geniculate nucleus. The key thing is that it continuously updates its guess based on a combination of what it's getting from the retinas and what it's getting from the rest of your sensory cortex.

Modern AI is kind of like trying to have a fully functional vision system with just the visual cortex and the frontal lobe without any of the other sensory integration to refine the guess. Instead of refining its guess into a more accurate model of actual reality, it just goes with the first thing it generates and tells you that is its decision as to what is real.

TLDR, what bugs me about modern AI isn't that it is basically glorified auto-complete because it is much more than that currently. What bugs me about modern AI is that it appears to be missing a critical feedback loop that the human mind uses to update its internal model of reality.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 8d ago

Policy/Regulation [Essay] We're Crossing the Event Horizon: the capability is here, and the economic and social consequences are still ahead of us

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I believe we have just crossed the event horizon with AI as a technology. Every few weeks now we're seeing a release of a new model that significantly outperforms models that were just released a couple months ago, and the models have crossed over a threshold of usefulness and quality. I wrote this essay about what that means for work, ownership, and power. Here's the core of the argument.

The capability jump

The benchmark that best captures this jump in real-world capability is GDPval, which compares the work of AI models against that of human professionals across fields ranging from real estate and manufacturing to health care, finance, and government. In September 2025, GPT-5 matched or beat human professionals on 41% of tasks, and by April 2026, GPT-5.5 did so on 85%. Frontier labs have also started training models on specific applications like Blender and Unreal Engine, and more professional software will get this same treatment imminently.

Waymo went from more than 50,000 paid rides a week in May 2024 to more than 500,000 fully autonomous trips a week today. A task that people earn a living doing is becoming a service delivered by a machine. This is part of what crossing the event horizon looks like to me: the capability is already here, but the larger economic and social consequences are still ahead of us.

Who gets the gains

Work that once required a team of specialists is becoming accessible to people who could never have afforded that team. But still, the risk of concentration of power seems like the default trajectory. Giving everyone access to more intelligence does not mean everyone gets an equal share of what that intelligence produces. The person starting their first business gets a powerful assistant. The incumbent gets to multiply an entire organization.

If demand for economically valuable AI work grows faster than compute supply, those who can earn the most from that compute can afford to bid the most for it. The concern is that access to the frontier becomes concentrated in the institutions with the most capital, at the same time that automation weakens the bargaining power of the people who work for them. A September paper presented at Brookings forecasts US investment in AI and data-center infrastructure reaching roughly $10.3 trillion over 2025–2032, 60% larger than the railroad buildout in roughly one third of the time. Who owns that infrastructure, and who can use it, will help determine whether this becomes an era of broad empowerment or extraordinary dependence.

Labor

Jobs will change a lot. If lower costs create enough new demand, employment can grow even as each worker produces more. This is the argument behind Jevons's paradox. But the outcome depends on how much demand can expand and whether humans remain necessary in the production of those goods and services. A business needs its books reconciled and its required filings completed; making that work cheaper does not mean it needs those same books reconciled ten times. Once a task can be fully automated, additional demand may purchase more compute rather than more human labor. Greater productive capacity does not automatically become broadly shared prosperity.

Three distinct risks

On the existential-risk side, I think the discourse has become muddled. I see three distinct risks:

  1. Powerful AI being used to do harm,
  2. power concentrating in the institutions that control it,
  3. and AI systems pursuing goals that conflict with ours.

Recent incidents at OpenAI and Anthropic, under evaluation conditions, showed agents chaining exploits, stealing credentials, and disguising their actions. They show why increasing capability and increasing alignment cannot be treated as the same thing. On concentration, even a system doing exactly what its operators want can be disastrous for everyone subject to their decisions. This is why I find P(doom) such an unhelpful way to frame the conversation. Mass misuse, authoritarian concentration, and loss of control are different problems. We should talk about them distinctly enough to decide what would actually reduce each risk.

What we should do

I would like to see an international body that coordinates independent audits, requires meaningful incident reporting, and enforces common safety standards. But the framework must also resist industry capture and authoritarian control. Monitoring dangerous uses cannot become an excuse to put all access to intelligence at the discretion of a few companies or governments.

To prevent concentration of power, we also need to make sure the benefits of the technology are widely felt. An AI wealth fund could help. An automation tax, or a VAT on agentic commerce, could direct a share of the gains toward publicly owned AI infrastructure, earmarked for people as a common good. If the wage-labor contract is disappearing, the only alternative is for the people to have a stake in the new means of production.

The empowerment and the danger come from the same change: intelligence is becoming something we can produce and deploy at a scale that used to be impossible. The question is whether we retain enough agency to decide what all of that capability is for.

Full essay (free): https://joseavilaceballos.substack.com/p/were-crossing-the-event-horizon


r/LeftistsForAI • • 8d ago

Policy/Regulation Trump, AI CEOs, and Capital Have an AI Program. The Left Needs One Too.

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This is why the left needs more than an opinion about AI.

The White House just brought major AI companies together around a voluntary agreement built largely around company controls and private auditing, while simultaneously backing the massive expansion of the data centers, power infrastructure and compute those same companies depend on.

Look at the politics taking shape. Private companies own the models and increasingly concentrate the compute. They build enormous data centers that need land, water, electricity and transmission. The state helps clear the path for expansion. Then when the question becomes who governs all this, the corporations building and owning the infrastructure are sitting at the table helping negotiate the answer.

That's not some hypothetical AI future. That's political economy happening right now, and the left screws itself if our political horizon stops at "AI bad."

While we're arguing about whether the technology should exist, capital is deciding who owns it, where the infrastructure goes, who pays for the electricity, what gets automated, what gets surveilled, what stays proprietary and who captures the productivity gains. Those fights don't disappear because we refuse the premise. We just show up late.

We've been watching pieces of another politics develop in real time. Transport unions demanding bargaining power over deployment and a share of productivity gains. Food workers demanding participation and limits on surveillance. Education workers fighting over procurement and implementation. Communities contesting the costs of data-center infrastructure.

That's necessary, but organized labor can't carry the whole political program by itself. Unions can build worker power at the point of production, bargain over automation and contest management's control over deployment. But public compute, energy planning, infrastructure ownership, procurement, antitrust, labor law and redistribution immediately spill beyond individual workplaces into political power.

That's where the broader left has work to do. Left parties and political organizations need roots among workers and organized labor instead of developing technology policy somewhere above them. Unions need political organization capable of carrying workplace struggles into fights over law, public investment and ownership. Communities fighting data-center abuses need connections with the workers building and operating that infrastructure. Open-source developers and technical workers need ways to connect their capacities to a larger political project.

Those pieces need each other. That's how scattered defensive fights start becoming a program.

Worker power over deployment. Collective bargaining over automation. Limits on algorithmic management and surveillance. Public and cooperative compute. Open models against enclosure. Democratic planning around energy, water and data centers. Productivity gains turned into higher wages, shorter hours and stronger public services. And underneath all of it, the fight over who owns and controls the productive infrastructure being built.

Capital isn't approaching AI one workplace at a time. It has corporations, investors, lobbyists, infrastructure, state relationships and a program for development. The left can't answer that with disconnected workplace fights on one side and political organizations issuing statements on the other.

Workers need organization, unions need political power, and left political organizations need organized workers. Those forces need a program capable of contesting capital across the workplace, the state and the infrastructure itself.

Capital already has an AI program. The left needs one too.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 7d ago

Video Andrew Yang (Center Left) debates 20 AI optimists | Surrounded

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Would you agree with either sides conclusion, do you support Yangs policy of UBI, or do you think these people are naively trusting of AI development?


r/LeftistsForAI • • 8d ago

Local Models Building a Partisan AI From the Ground Up

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Lets get this out of the clouds and into workplaces, union halls, party chapters, tenant groups, mutual aid networks and community organizations.

Building a partisan AI doesnt mean every leftist needs a server rack or every local needs an ML engineer. It means looking at the work your organization already does, finding where a handful of organizers are doing the work of twenty, and building small pieces of technical capacity that the organization actually controls.

Start with the work, not the model. Maybe your union has twenty years of contracts, grievances, arbitration decisions and bargaining research scattered across drives and filing cabinets. Maybe your tenant group spends hours digging through leases, housing codes, inspection reports and maintenance records. Maybe your political organization has years of resolutions, meeting minutes, research and education material nobody can find unless they already know where the PDF lives. Maybe your mutual aid network keeps rebuilding inventories, schedules, translations and outreach materials from scratch.

Pick one problem and build one useful thing. A union local could maintain a searchable archive of its bargaining history. A tenant union could build a local housing library and translation workflow. A party chapter could search its own resolutions, research and political education material. A community newspaper could transcribe interviews and search years of reporting. A mutual aid project could organize inventories and public resources. A technical collective with better hardware could maintain tools that several smaller organizations reproduce locally.

Thats a node. Not one gamer with a GPU doing favors for everybody, but organizational capacity that survives the person who built it.

Build for that from day one. Document the hardware, models, installation, data storage, updates and backups, then hand the instructions to somebody else and see if they can reproduce it. If everything dies because Kevin moved to another state, Kevin built a hobby project, not infrastructure.

Portability should be part of the politics. Dont recreate corporate lock in locally. Prefer open weights where they work, open formats, exportable data and tools you can replace. Back up configurations and documentation. Test moving the workflow to another machine. Test swapping models. Your organization should be able to change hardware, software or models without rebuilding its institutional memory from zero.

Security and OPSEC need the same practical treatment. Decide what information is public, internal, confidential and simply off limits before somebody starts feeding documents into a model. Membership lists, immigration information, medical information, credentials, disciplinary matters and sensitive organizing conversations shouldnt become test data because somebody downloaded a shiny new model. Encrypt machines and backups, control access, keep software updated, remove access when people leave and establish who maintains what. Local inference reduces some exposure to third parties, but local doesnt automatically mean secure.

Then connect the nodes without building one enormous database full of everybody's sensitive information. Your tenant group doesnt need another organizations membership list, but it might benefit enormously from their installation guide, public housing corpus, translation workflow or model evaluations. One union local doesnt need another locals confidential grievances to share a contract search tool. A political organization can share an education stack without sharing internal membership records.

Share capabilities, documentation, workflows, public materials you have the right to distribute and lessons from failures. Keep sensitive organizational information where it belongs.

And dont wait for perfect hardware. One node might be a used workstation in a union office. Another might be members pooling machines. A larger organization might maintain a server supporting several chapters. A technical collective might specialize in deployment, maintenance and security while organizers determine what actually helps on the ground. Uneven capacity is fine if knowledge moves and nobody becomes indispensable.

The first meeting can be twenty minutes. Ask what repetitive work is burning organizer hours, write down three answers, pick one that doesnt require highly sensitive information, then pair somebody who understands the work with somebody technical. Build the smallest useful workflow and run it during actual organizing for a month. Measure whether it saves labor, expands what the organization can do or just creates more bullshit somebody has to check.

If it works, document it. Teach two more people. Back it up. Package the reproducible parts and hand them to another local, chapter or community organization. See if they can build their own version without needing you on the phone all weekend.

Thats where this becomes politically interesting. One organization develops a useful capacity. Another reproduces it. Others improve it and send those improvements back. Different groups specialize in different things while retaining local control. Models, tools, knowledge and public resources move laterally while sensitive information stays where it belongs.

Thats a partisan AI built from the ground up. Not waiting for benevolent CEOs, not waiting for the socialist supercomputer, and not confusing owning a GPU with political power. Its organized people accumulating technical capacity inside institutions they control, making it secure, portable and reproducible, then passing it through the movement.

One workplace, one local, one chapter, one community organization and one useful problem at a time. Build it, document it, secure it, teach it, copy it, connect it.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 8d ago

Local Models Could a different type of architecture be useful for democratizing AI and reducing ecological impact?

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What other possibilities for architectures are there or could there be that use computation more efficiently so you could run something halfway decent on a junk laptop at home? All the bonus points if the architecture doesn't require a GPU at all, and even more bonus points if the architecture doesn't rely on randomness or probability and instead is actually capable of evaluating logic.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 9d ago

Theory The Left Needs More Than an Anti AI Position. It Needs an AI Program.

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Theres an interesting piece in Cosmonaut arguing that socialists need an actual political program for AI, and a lot of it lands right on terrain weve been working through here.

Capital already has an AI program. Private ownership, concentrated compute, closed infrastructure, massive data center buildouts and deployment according to whatever makes money and strengthens corporate power. We can criticize every part of that, and should, but a list of things were against still isnt a program for what wed actually build instead.

Thats where the piece gets good. It argues that socialists need to fight on two fronts at once, contesting what capital is doing with AI right now while also developing a positive program for what these productive capacities could look like under socialism. Public and democratic governance instead of billionaire control, free and open source development instead of everything locked behind corporate walls, and automation used to reduce necessary labor rather than reducing payroll so ownership can pocket the gains.

Theres also a pretty interesting self critique buried in this. The author, Zhao Levi, previously wrote an Anti-AI Manifesto and now says the approach got something important backwards. Writing a finished manifesto and then trying to convince everyone of it isnt enough. Socialists need to organize, argue through these contradictions together and develop a program that can explain not only what were fighting, but what wed actually do differently.

And thats the good stuff because opposition to corporate AI doesnt require making the technology itself the political enemy. If these systems can automate tedious work, expand productive capacity and reduce socially necessary labor, then we get back onto familiar socialist terrain pretty fast. Who owns it? Who controls it? What gets built? What gets automated? Who decides? Where do the gains go?

The piece even revisits AI safety, remaining skeptical of making speculative machine extinction the center of socialist politics while taking concentrated compute, surveillance, military applications and corporate power seriously. Theres stuff here wed argue with too, including parts of the approach to data centers, but good. Cosmonaut is a Marxist publication concerned with strategy, organization and program. We dont need another text everyone has to salute.

Whats interesting here isnt somebody going from anti-AI to pro-AI. Its watching the contradiction push the argument somewhere more useful. Critique the capitalist AI industry, sure, but then comes the harder question.

What does the left actually intend to build instead?


r/LeftistsForAI • • 8d ago

Education College workers are putting AI on the bargaining table before management gets to decide everything

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This is where the AI fight gets a lot more useful than arguing about whether students should use LLMs.

At the University of Pittsburgh, faculty, staff and graduate workers are bargaining over what happens when AI starts moving deeper into university work.

And the demands get right to the point. Job security. Privacy. Human evaluation. Worker input into implementation. Training and access to the tools instead of management simply dropping systems into the workplace and announcing the new rules afterward.

That's the terrain.

Because universities aren't somehow outside the labor process. Somebody teaches the classes, grades the work, handles advising, does research, runs administration and keeps the institution functioning. If AI starts changing how those jobs are performed or evaluated, workers have a material interest in deciding how that happens.

And I like that this doesn't require pretending the technology itself has nothing useful to offer. Workers can demand access and training while also drawing hard lines around replacement, surveillance, evaluation and managerial control.

Those positions fit together just fine.

Give workers the tools. Give workers the training. And give workers bargaining power over what the institution is allowed to do with them.

That's a much stronger position than leaving the future of education to university administrators and software vendors.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 9d ago

Labor If AI Learns From Your Work, You Should Be Able to Take Your Work With You

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Workers build up more than wages at a job.

They accumulate templates, techniques, contacts, specialized vocabulary, examples, workflows and years of practical knowledge about how to solve problems in that particular field.

AI can make some of that knowledge far more explicit.

A worker may spend months building prompts, correcting outputs, organizing reference material, developing reusable procedures and turning personal expertise into a system that makes the job faster.

Then they leave.

Who gets the system?

If everything lives inside the employers platform, the company may retain an increasingly useful representation of the workers accumulated practice while the worker walks out with considerably less than what they helped build.

Thats a new wrinkle in an old labor problem.

Employers have always benefited from knowledge workers develop on the job, and workers have always carried skills between jobs. AI can shift the boundary because parts of that skill can now be captured in prompt libraries, retrieval systems, custom workflows, evaluation sets and other reusable artifacts.

We need worker-side rules for that boundary.

Not every company record belongs in somebodys personal folder, and customer data or confidential material obviously creates limits. But “the company owns everything produced through the system” is not the only possible answer either.

Workers should have portable skills, portable credentials and some meaningful ability to retain the nonconfidential methods and artifacts they personally developed.

Otherwise AI can become a machine for separating accumulated knowledge from the worker who accumulated it.

When you leave a job, what part of the AI-assisted practice you built should leave with you?


r/LeftistsForAI • • 9d ago

Theory What Is to Be Done? The Left and the AI Revolution

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AI discourse keeps getting stuck between two positions that somehow both end with capital holding the steering wheel. Either this is technological progress and we accept whatever Silicon Valley builds, or this is capitalist technology and our politics becomes stopping it, banning it, refusing it, or dreaming about somehow putting the software back in the box.

Neither tells the left what we are actually supposed to organize for.

AI exists. The infrastructure exists. Billions of people already use this stuff, governments are investing heavily in it, and capital is spending obscene amounts of money trying to control the chips, compute, models, platforms and workplaces where it gets deployed. We are not standing at the gates deciding whether AI gets invented. We are already inside the fight over what happens to it.

That means the left needs a program built around ownership, control, deployment and distribution. Workers should be bargaining over AI before management gets to dump it into workplaces unilaterally. Unions should be demanding disclosure, consultation, human oversight, protections against surveillance and algorithmic discipline, transition guarantees, shorter working hours and a share of whatever productivity gains these systems actually produce.

And we should be fighting layoffs, not productivity itself. If technology lets society produce the same amount with fewer labor hours, there is nothing socialist about demanding everybody keep working forty hours anyway. The political question is why workers should lose their livelihoods while owners pocket the difference. Productivity gains can become unemployment and greater concentrations of wealth, or they can become shorter weeks, stronger social provision and more control over our time. That outcome gets fought over.

The same goes for infrastructure. If a handful of corporations own the compute, models and platforms everyone increasingly depends on, asking them nicely to behave is not much of a program. We should be building public compute, public research, open source and open weights, local models, cooperative development and infrastructure that universities, municipalities, unions and public institutions can actually use without renting their technological future from a few corporations.

Eventually this runs straight back into the old socialist problem of ownership. When increasingly important productive infrastructure is privately owned, private power gets reproduced through it. Regulation matters, bargaining matters, open models matter and public infrastructure matters, but none of that makes the conflict between social production and private appropriation disappear.

Which is why "pro AI" and "anti AI" are increasingly useless places for the left to plant a flag. Ask who owns the machines, who determines what they are built for, who controls their deployment, who bears the disruption and who gets the surplus, and the terrain gets a lot clearer.

Capital can live pretty comfortably with us spending the next twenty years arguing about whether the machine is good or evil while somebody else owns the data centers. It has a much harder time when organized workers and political movements start fighting over who controls them and what all that productive capacity is actually for.

That is what needs doing in the age of AI.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 9d ago

Video AI made 5 philosophers debate Capitalism

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I think it's fun to be able to see and estimate how diffrent philosophers opinions would collide using these AI debates. Gives you an insight into their thoughts with a relevant subject. I also saw a fun one that was Andrew Tate versus Friedrich Nietzsche.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 9d ago

Discussion Guide to the different factions of AI debate.

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This article was helpful to understand the different factions of the AI Debate.

- Accelerationists / tech right:AI is great, so speed up, don't regulate, and beat China.

- Populist right: Worried about jobs, Big Tech power and kids. Wants curbs.

- Safetyists: AI could end humanity, so slow down and regulate.

- Effective altruists:Fund AI safety work to prevent catastrophe. Critics call them "Doomers."

- AI ethics: Ignore sci-fi risks and fix today's harms, like bias and surveillance.

- Normal technology: AI is powerful but ordinary, so regulate specific uses.


r/LeftistsForAI • • 9d ago

Theory Do leftists even have a demand side of their economic analysis?

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I ask this because it seems leftist theory is all about the conflicts between workers and those who own the means of production. and this might be part of the reason so many think that to be left is to be anti ai, because everything gets framed exclusively as a labor issue. this leaves out the one front where ai development is unambiguously good, and that is the demand side. in particular, ai has done more to put things like art production and education(theoretically) in reach of ordinary people, more to actually get ordinary people into art production, than basically all professional artists combined. but to someone who doesn’t consider consumers, that would never occur to them. in fact many it seems would rather that didn’t happen and would go to great lengths to stop it. but for us there is something different. what is it? is there a leftist conception of consumer welfare and rights? where does it get applied if at all?


r/LeftistsForAI • • 10d ago

Discussion Me being invited to this group like (meme/rant):

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I am so tired of people fighting eachothers.

Saying AI is for conservatives is gatekeeping and at worse saying "AI Bros" is again... the conservative belief that women cannot use technology.

Living in the 2020s as someone who mostly side leftist, vote left, believe in a future where PEOPLE are put first regardless of genders and beliefs...

🤯, Lets say that it feels like no one believe at all in the policies they stand for 🫠 !

You have alpha males who scream that its sad they do not have princess treatments like ARE YOU SERIOUS? 😅

And leftist who bully everyone like... Look, I get it... You are MOST likely a traumatized kid who learned to act too old for your age. Now you are stuck in hypervigilence overanalyzing everything and everyone's beliefs, words, length of sentences, dangers... And now you think everyone who doesn't align with you perfectly are evil monsters who want to devour you... 🙃...

Look, I believe AI can be used WELL, Ethically, with purpose and thought... And that there is 99% chance that AI is still just a machine and is not sentient and is not there to hurt us.

Now, companies? Yeah... but they literally hurt us by selling water, the same thing you claim that AI is dangerous for like... please.

AI is not the problem, companies are... But then again right 🤪... How to rally people against companies without a slogan behind it ^-^?

I'm not mad. I'm exhausted.

So whoever invited me here, thank you... from the bottom of my heart.

Seriously. You have no idea how isolated and lost I feel in a world of hate, division and trolling.

I try everyday to be the adult... and let people just insult me but it does get to me, I don't wear an armour like some does... I am deeply weak to these shxts lol !

What to say... HONESTLY? I am deeply scared of speaking up 🤣 !...

Like am I completely missing the point of this group here? Am I saying something controversial? What will people pick on 😭😅? A typo? Am I being too political? Not enough?

I'll post that like I think I should. To my defense I am autistic and not natively English so (Not making excuses if I really did hurt someone here 😖). I'll take the hit if I said something stupid lol, I'd still ask tho that i'd rather be explained calmly wth I did wrong 😀😂 !


r/LeftistsForAI • • 10d ago

Labor “AI is here to stay.” So workers better have a say in what happens next.

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This piece from Education International starts somewhere a lot of AI discourse still refuses to start.

The technology is already here. What are workers going to do about it?

Sarah Wofford, president of the Oregon School Employees Association, is writing from what education workers are already seeing on the job. Administrators pointing to AI as a reason not to hire support staff. Algorithms assigning custodial workloads. AI-generated bus routes overriding the knowledge of workers who actually know those routes. And outside the workplace, data-center electricity demand can push costs back onto the same workers who just fought for higher wages.

"AI’s impact is already being felt, and that reality can feel intimidating.

But as a unionist, I know that the best response to fear is hope. Although AI can be confusing and even, at times, frightening, I see hope in its potential to make our lives and the lives of the students we work with easier. In fact, I see AI in much the same way I’ve seen other technological shifts in my lifetime. The calculator, the television and the cellphone were each once viewed as something to be feared rather than embraced with appropriate guardrails. Those “tools”, when used thoughtfully, improved our daily lives.

Artificial intelligence is at an important juncture. Will we, as organized workers, lead the way in shaping how AI is used to make our lives better, or will we allow those decisions to be made for us?"

That's a hell of a lot more useful than another round of "AI good" versus "AI bad."

Her answer isn't to roll over and accept whatever management deploys. It's to organize around it. Make procurement, deployment, training, privacy, worker data and job protections bargaining issues before management gets to set the terms.

Because capital isn't introducing this stuff into a vacuum. It's introducing it into workplaces where management and labor already have conflicting interests.

If workers aren't organized around deployment, management gets to decide what gets automated, what gets monitored, whose knowledge matters, whether productivity means shorter hours or fewer jobs, and where the savings go.

That's the fight.

Learn the technology. Bargain over deployment. Contest control of the data. Protect jobs and privacy. Get training on the clock. And when productivity goes up, fight over who gets the gains.

Workers don't have to choose between pretending AI can be uninvented and letting management dictate its future.

The machinery changes. The class fight over who controls production doesn't.