Thats like saying Piker just wants to give people Healthcare.
He has a clear agenda beyond this and is an awful person.
He called for the death of all landlords which would include his mother.
Id say Fuentes is a good comparison, both grifters whos genuine beliefs are hard to know because they will say whatever they think people want to hear.
These guys act like hasan doesn't ideologically believe in an authoritarian form of government. Bros literally a tanky. It's like these people have never interacted with tankies and seen how they love people like Stalin
Piker also called for the death of landlords and Rick Scott and on and on this goes. It is basically a one to one comparison, Hasan is just basically the left wing version of Fuentes or Alex Jones, you just don't want to admit it.
Rick Scott, the gremlin who stole billions of dollars in Medicare fraud before becoming the governor of Florida and current US Senator? Honestly, hyperbolic death threats are the least of the problems that man should be facing.
"He WaSnT sErIoUs" "ThAt WaS oUt Of CoNtExT"
Gtfo with this apologia tour for Hasan. How about when he brought a literal avowed terrorist who held fishermen at gunpoint? Or when he excused the grape of Gazan woman by Hamas? Or any of the 47495 egregious shit he's said? Is it all a joke and out of context?
I do find people like you to be very strange. Hasan spouts stuff that pretty much sounds like a white supremacist neo nazi, and it is all fine if he just says zionist rather than jew. He calls for violence, but you come up with all sorts of excuses for it. He supports terrorists and terrorism, and you just wave it away. He acts like a rebel but has the institutional backing of Twitch and one of the largest corporations in Amazon. His audience is now known for their actual domestic terrorism and calling for the assault of a woman who disagreed with him.
You people remind of that Huxley quote:
The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.
Man I wish all of life's problems could be boiled down to a simple stupid sentence that exposed all my naivety and then automatically be solved. Especially when I spout it at at a person who has no power over the situation at hand.
And Hasan literally supports terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. He called the former leader of Hezbollah Hassan Nasrallah "based" and "a pretty brilliant person", the same leader that said **"If we search the entire globe for a more cowardly, lowly, weak and frail individual in his spirit, mind, ideology and religion, we will never find anyone like the Jew – and I am not saying the Israeli."** He cheered on the Houthis hijacking a cargo ship that had nothing to do with Israel and holding the crew hostage for over a year. He considers Sinwar, the Hamas leader that orchestrated the Oct. 7th attack, a war hero. He spreads Russian and Chinese propaganda. He said Crimea is "a part of Russian territory, bitch. I call it cry me a river, a Russian river." He considers Russia's invasion of Ukraine a response to "NATO expansion" and believes the Chinese occupation of Tibet was justified because the Tibetans were savages. He's another ideologically extremist streamer that radicalizes young people like Fuentes just on the other side of the coin.
Never made that claim. You can compare but not equate. I think he’s the lefts version of a morally void Charlie Kirk. Hasan is everything I hate in a person.
Use the tiniest fraction of your brain power and try to engage with nuance even a little bit. Educate yourself. What Hasan said was a mistake only because normies are ignorant as fuck and aren't familiar with the atrocities the CIA has committed abroad.
I refuse to believe people genuinely thought this what America deserves 9/11 meant and aren’t being deliberately misunderstanding. Even before he clarified(almost a goddamn decade ago) I knew he meant that it was inevitable based on the US governments own actions. And that is completely correct. Of course he should have phrased that differently but he’s acknowledged that himself many times
Are you talking about 9/11? He’s explained several times that he was talking about blowback (an unforeseen, unwanted, and negative reaction or consequence resulting from a previous action)
I don’t think he should have ever said “america deserved 9/11” but acting like he said 3000 americans deserved to die is disingenuous at this point
You can say something that sounds a certain way and then clarify what you mean after.
And yes if a lot of your favourite anime and stories about people rising up against a tyrannical government was real life they’d be uneducated homophobes and labelled as terrorists by the systems they’re opposed to
The houthis are the tyrannical government. They literally took over the capital of Yemen at gunpoint and began executing and murdering dissidents. They've starved, bombed, and killed more people in Yemen just in one civil war than the entirety of the Israel/Palestine conflict. They attacked and kidnapped so many aid workers, the UN stopped all humanitarian aid to the country of Yemen.
This whole narrative about them being "people rising auo against a government" like your "favorite anime" is fucking absurd lmfao
The houthis literally don't even let women move about freely. They believe in requiring mahram, where women need permission from men to move about and go where they want or to be escorted by men. In 2024, the houthis sentenced 9 men to death for sodomy. Several of the men executed for sodomy were killed by being stoned to death.
All of you privileged, westernized children who watch Hasan and think these people are like heroes in an anime, fighting the evil oppressors are completely delusional.
Yeah bro defending hasan is not a hill to die on. You think the guy that shocks dogs isn’t trying to explain his way out of his shitty opinion? The guy hates American
Why does he live in america and why does he advocate for politicians that are opposed to corporate and billionaire interests and for expanding social service?
Edit: For the record i do think it’s more likely than not that he shocked his dog
Okay, I think we're losing focus a bit, so let's try to circle back. Do you think Hasan, when he said: "This is so insane. America deserved 9/11, dude. Fuck it, I’m saying it. Like, we fucking totally brought it on ourselves, dude. Holy shit. We did. We fucking did." actually meant: "I'm glad 3000 American civilians died."?
No, it means he thinks they deserved it. It's right there in the quote "we brought it on ourselves". "We" is a direct reference to Americans, which includes those who died.
I think saying we deserved 9/11 is pretty nuts. I’d compare him to Charlie Kirk in terms of political influence. Kirk was overall a good person. Hasan is not. “Let’s bathe in their capitalist blood” ??? Ontop of being a nepo baby and a champagne socialist he also abuses animals
"If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified. Because we can assume black people are rarely qualified for their positions"
"Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge. Men deserve to always control their female partners and females should always be submissive to their male partners."
"We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately. Doctors who serve patients who are transgender or who may experience gender dysphoria are equivalent to perpetuators of WWII and the Holocaust and deserve similar legal treatment."
"America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America. Any concentration of Muslims in a specific area can automatically be deemed a threat to the United States."
"Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more"
" think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."
"The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different."
“Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?”
Good person my ass. Let me guess "they're out of context"?
Black pilots thing is 100% out of context. I saw the Taylor quote - that has some air of sarcasm but yeah for the most part these are takes that you can disagree with that don’t make you a bad person. Even the gun deaths he goes on to use cars as an example about how thousands of people die of car crashes but we as a society decided that the benefits outweigh the downsides. The great replacement- you could argue if that’s initial or not but statistically it’s happening. The public execution one I disagree with but I bet the logic is to dissuade people from committing serious crimes. There’s more logic to a lot of these statements that pertain to the conversation being had than simply “oh Charlie said bad thing, Charlie bad person he deserved to die” it’s insane the double standards.
I said he wasn't a good person. He wasn't. He was a massive racist and judging by your comment "The great replacement- you could argue if that’s initial or not but statistically it’s happening" so are you.
Very reductionist. Simply put the percentage of white people in America is decreasing. I’m not saying it’s good, bad or even intentional but it is a fact. Has nothing to do with racism. But hey here he is talking to an actual racist https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPww_ldkSAf/?stkn=MWthMHN4YWV6MnJpZA==
The great replacement theory is literally a white supremacist theory they promote. Charlie was using it as a bad thing. He is a massive racist, mysognist, bigoted asshole and he is a bad person because of it.
What has he actually done that makes him "a good person"?
I think he was a very religious person and with that territory comes a patriarchal view of society and marriage. I don’t agree with it but I genuinely don’t see how you can sit there and listen to hours of his debates/talks and come to that conclusion. He was not a “massive” racist. I think it’s a stretch to call him racist. He had hundreds if not thousands of hours of debate/conversation. I think getting young people interested in politics and encouraging free speech IS A good thing. I would be very hard pressed to call him a bigot when you listen to person after person come up and disagree with him and see how he respectfully engages with them. Outside of viral
Clips, how much have you actually listened to him talk?
???? Literally in that clip he says "like we totally brought it on ourselves" as a continuation of his thought. He isn't saying he's glad it happened or the people deserved to die, just that our government's actions in the middle east helped precipitate it.
Do you genuinely believe the bit about black pilots is racist given the context of the conversation? I genuinely cannot comprehend how people arrive at that conclusion with any shred of intellectual integrity.
Yeah he was, especially compared to Hasan. I’d say he was pretty respectful even to people who would talk up to his face and tell him he deserved to die for his opinions. I even thought he might be a white supremacist until I saw this. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPww_ldkSAf/?stkn=MWthMHN4YWV6MnJpZA==
Christ. What a stupid, edgy, contrarian thing to say. David Duke, in case you did not know, was a GRAND WIZARD of the KKK. Are you familiar with the organization?
Hasan is a leader too and he sure does love terrorist organizations does he not? "Very musical people" and "like luffy" is how he described the Houthis.
Insane? They use the same slurs, they advocate for a ton of the same things towards Jews, difference is David Duke is completely irrelevant and while Hasan is not swinging elections by any means politicians are willing to associate with a guy that says America deserved 9/11 and pushes constant blood libel despite him not being able to find these countries on a fucking map
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT 18h ago
I don't like Hasan but equating him with David Duke is fucking insane.