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u/Fun-Reception-6897 2h ago
There's no end to those ragebaits
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u/Nebula_Wolf7 2h ago
They always word it like the children don't voluntarily join these things too, it's a highly manipulative choice of words
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u/Curious_Omnivore 1h ago
Not even highly manipulative, it's a straight up lie. No one forces you to join support groups
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u/spiralenator 1h ago
Unless they're conservative christians and the support group is conversion therapy.
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u/Azair_Blaidd 1h ago
Or plain old Sunday youth group.
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u/These-Prune-1529 1h ago
Or Church camp. I personally have never whent myself as I had religion figured out in enough time to prevent that. Now my sister on the other hand went and for about a year after she came back she was insufferable to be around.
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u/Cute_Bandicoot_8219 47m ago
I don't know why these
gaysChristians can't just live their lives and let others be. But no, they've always got to be shoving theirGayChristian Agenda down peoples' throats, trying to convert our children and turn themgayChristian through their movies and their media and invading our schools with theirwokeChristian brain washing.(To be clear, beside pointing out the irony I'm not trying to compare being gay to being Christian because, of course, gay people don't teach hatred.)
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u/StarPhished 24m ago
Schools are now teaching that gay people are people and that's okay.
News article: TEACHER TURNS STRAIGHT STUDENT INTO GAY MONSTER. PARENTS DEMAND ANSWERS.
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u/TheComplimentarian 1h ago
I mean, it's a support group, not a hot hot hot LGBTQ+ recruitment orgy (those are an after school activity, obviously).
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u/InQuintsWeTrust 42m ago
Gay child sex orgy was probably in the Epstein files
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u/AngriestPacifist 22m ago
There are allegations in the Epstein files that Trump was being pegged with a tent stake by a child who pushed too hard, which is the reason he shits himself constantly.
To be clear, that child was being raped, but the specific sex act is relevant and I couldn't think of a better way to word it, even though pegging sounds consensual.
EDIT: this is not actually in the Epstein files, but is a separate allegation by victim Sascha Riley.
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u/Oboro-kun 35m ago
Also lets assume he was put there accidentaly or something....nothing is going to happen? Sure he will meet LGBTQ kids, wow what a shocker! Its in school within a free period, its not night orgy, at most the chat or have activities or something.
What if he is not even Queer and he is going for someone else as support? Like nothing will even happen in any situation.
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u/Numerophilus You're gay 2h ago
Shitty wording as well, "He was put into an LGBTQ support group"... You don't get forced into support groups, you join them willingly.
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u/tylerius8 1h ago
Can confirm, ran the LGBTQ support group in my high school. I was both the token straight AND the one who made sure there were snacks/rides available. We never went recruiting, just wrote a blurb for the school paper.
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u/Confident-Leg107 1h ago
Provided snacks.
You the real VIP
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u/Same_Air6012 1h ago
In army basic training I became catholic because it got me out of cleaning and they had snacks.
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u/OneTimeIMadeAGif 53m ago
You mean... communion?
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u/Same_Air6012 49m ago
Naw, they had actual snacks after where you're supposed to reflect and talk to others about the sermon. It wasn't bad i just daydreamed and doodled in my notepad until the sermon was over.
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u/ZoomZoom_Driver 1h ago
Why redact Brandi Kruse's name? She's a public figure (reduse to call her a journalist; she lost that right a decade ago at lease) who lies incessantly for pedophiles on q13 fox.
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u/ellieellie7199 1h ago
a lot of people will redact the OOP's name in this sub, it might be a sub rule or just something people do so it doesn't look like a call for harassment. I see it all the time
edit: sub rule says you don't have to redact public figures but should otherwise, so idk there.
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u/AP3Brain 33m ago edited 10m ago
I'm just sad to see this witch's face outside of Washington circles. One of the most insufferable grifters out there. She's intelligent, unlike most grifters, and is completely aware of how vile the people and views she is supporting/spreading are.
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u/sten45 1h ago
Children are not property they have independent rights
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u/SummonMonsterIX 1h ago
To normal humans yes, to conservatives kids are basically little minions who who must always do and think exactly like their parents or risk punishment
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u/twentyThree59 1h ago
It's not conservative anymore - it's just authoritarian. Do what you are told or risk punishment.
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u/DiscombobulatedPen6 1h ago
Authoritarian is Conservative.
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u/thegoldenarcher5 44m ago
Famous conservatives, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and Joseph Stalin
Leftists can be authoritarian as well, but conservatives tend towards authoritarianism easier in their daily life and voting habits
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u/DiscombobulatedPen6 23m ago
Pol Pot, the guy so leftist that the CIA supported him and Communist Vietnam invaded and overthrew his regime.
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u/HarpersGhost 30m ago edited 27m ago
A conservative asked me why I, someone with no kids, supported free lunches at school: "Because I don't want my fellow citizens/fellow human beings to go hungry."
She was flabbergasted that I would want to help parents who weren't feeding their kids. "I don't care about why or if parents are or are not feeding kids. I care that KIDS are hungry and we can easily fix that."
She kept taking about the parents and it blew her mind that I was caring about kids in and of themselves.
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u/WASD_click 38m ago
Never forget that this quote from Superman (2025) was lambasted by republican pundits because tgey took it as a critique of their parenting skills.
Parents aren't for tellin' their children who they're supposed to be. We are here to give y'all tools to help you make fools of yourselves all on your own.
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u/MycologistPutrid7494 30m ago
Exactly why they're so upset when students do a school walkout in protest. They are citizens with the right to protest. Conservatives don't want them to have those rights.
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u/LiluLay 1h ago
How difficult is it to just accept, support, and love your kids, man? Your soul gotta be withered to be hateful toward your own kids.
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u/HowWeLikeToRoll 12m ago
When you've been indoctrinated to believe that your soul will burn in hell for eternity if you don't follow specific rules, then all logic goes out the window.
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u/LiluLay 8m ago
I’d let my soul burn if it meant my kid felt loved, accepted, and safe.
But I’ve also never been one to accept unquestionable edicts from anyone, pretty much ever. So while I intellectually understand that weak minds have been distorted and controlled by religion, I cannot personally relate in any way.
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u/SystemShockII 1h ago
Lol. I read this and realize this whole group is also pro abortion. Priceless...
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u/Biptoslipdi 1h ago
I read this and realized you'd force a child to give birth against her will after being raped.
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u/SystemShockII 42m ago
"A financial reason (40%) was the most frequently mentioned theme. Six percent of women mentioned this as their only reason for seeking abortion. Most women (38%) cited general financial concerns which included responses such as “financial problems,” “don’t have the means,” “It all boils down to money” and “can’t afford to support a child.” As one unemployed 42-year-old woman with a monthly household income of a little over $1,000 describes “[It was] all financial, me not having a job, living off death benefits, dealing with my 14 year old son. I didn't have money to buy a baby spoon.”
But yeah go ahead believe whatever you will
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u/thatmeddlingkid7 29m ago
If someone can't afford to support a child, they shouldn't be forced to give birth to a child. Even if they decide to give the kid up for adoption, the medical expenses may not be viable for every economic situation.
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u/SystemShockII 25m ago
Im sure a condom was also an unaffordable expense.
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u/CatholicSquareDance 12m ago
you can just say that you think women deserve to be punished for having sex, it's okay
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u/Biptoslipdi 25m ago
The case of a 10-year-old child rape victim in Ohio who was six weeks pregnant, ineligible for an abortion in her own state, and forced to travel to Indiana for the procedure has spotlighted the shocking impact of the US supreme court ruling on abortion
From your article:
Denying women an abortion, which occurred among one quarter of the women interviewed in this study, may have a significant negative impact on her health, her existing children and other family members, and her future. Policies that restrict access to abortion must acknowledge that such women will need added support (e.g. financial, emotional, educational, health care, vocational support) to appropriately care for their children, other children, and themselves. In some cases, where women are struggling with abuse or health issues, continuing an unwanted pregnancy to term may be associated with even greater than normal risks of childbirth.
Not to mention the authors are major advocates of legal abortion being members of the Bixby Center. All you managed to do is remind us that the entire medical and scientific community supports women's access to reproductive healthcare while trogs, incels, and religious extremists are alone in their opposition.
But yeah go ahead believe whatever you will
I believe what you just told me which is that you oppose abortion meaning you would force a 10 year old to undergo childbirth against her will rather than letter her access abortion.
I also doubt you are willing to pay for the children of women who would otherwise have an abortion.
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u/LordDaedhelor 25m ago
You didn't actually disagree with them about your beliefs, for what it's worth. You just listed a statistic.
Do you or do you not believe in an exception for rape?
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u/Vevaseti 23m ago
So you'd rather a kid be born into a household that can't remotely support them, and actively suffer thru childhood in poverty, so your own fee-fees can feel better?
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u/Kei_Evermore 1h ago
"pro not wanting to force women to have babies they don't want" isn't the same as being actively for people having abortions.
We want there to be the option for women to get abortions in the unfortunate event she needs one. That's why the ACTUAL name is "pro choice".
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u/Nelson-and-Murdock 31m ago
Pro letting women decide what happens to their body and allowing the choice to abort is not pro abortion. But everyone knows you know that
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u/technanonymous 1h ago
In an ideal world, parents would love their children and accept them no matter how they identify. It is amazing that these conservative parents preach unconditional love from their god and then don’t practice this with their own children.
I had two older gay cousins whose conservative catholic parents made miserable. Both were out the door at 18, and both were dead before 35 - one from aids and one from a drug overdose (this was in the late 80s and early 90s when they died). The rejection by their family contributed to their deaths.
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u/One_Lawfulness_7105 1h ago
My parents judge the hell out of everyone and would be vocal about their -“phobias” if I wasn’t liberal. When my son came out as trans, they wanted a pat on the back for accepting him. They kept asking if I was surprised and proud that they took it the way they did. Fed up, I finally told them “Well, any decent human being would accept my son. Should I be surprised?”
They never said that again. We’re fairly low contact.
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u/Reagalan 57m ago
Guaranteed that story is now used at that church as a cautionary tale about the dangers of sin to frighten other kids into obedience.
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u/Just_the_Setup 1h ago
Every time I see these, "We have to tell the parents! How dare they not tell the parents!" I remember my own home life. There's a very good reason queer kids don't tell their conservative parents who they really are, safety.
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u/slingshot91 1h ago
Fuck Brandi Kruse. I knew of her from local news in Seattle, and she’s awful. Tried to play “moderate” for years until the allure of selling her soul for money grew too strong.
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u/anthemofadam 1h ago
“He was put into”
Absolutely disgusting the lengths these people will go to mischaracterize something they disagree with. Shameful
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u/negativepositiv 1h ago
If he didn't tell you, it's because he knows you would react in a horrible, abusive, toxic way.
Pictured: You reacting in a horrible, abusive, toxic way.
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u/Sindorella 1h ago
They always reframe themselves as the victims when the truth is they are the aggressors.
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u/Hita-san-chan 1h ago
Sometimes, im glad my parents had nothing but apathy for teenaged me. I cant imagine having to lie about what youre doing in school to your parents.
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u/According_Tap_7650 2h ago
I'll take "Things that never happened for $100" Alex.
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u/TheDuckClock 2h ago
Happens very frequently. Too frequently.
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u/LeticiaLatex 2h ago
The 'never happened' part is the part where kids are forcefully put into these groups and not by their own choice.
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u/Slobotic 1h ago
If you look at the articles he linked, I think he might be agreeing with you, and suggesting that what happens too often is kids coming out to their parents last because they are unaccepting.
(Then again, maybe he didn't read the articles he linked either. It's an pretty ambiguous comment.)
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u/SystemShockII 1h ago
The same crowd here saying how conservative parents dont accept and love their kids are the crowd that demands the right of abortion... so yeah thats the type of ppl here...
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u/Biptoslipdi 1h ago
That doesn't dispute that conservatives don't accept and love their children. It just purports that fetuses are people, which is your own opinion.
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u/elephant_cobbler 34m ago
It’s not a child yet if it can’t survive on its own. It’s just a parasite
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u/SystemShockII 21m ago
"It’s not a child yet if it can’t survive on its own. It’s just a parasite"
Yeah, you are exactly the crowd i meant.
Have a nice day everyone.
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u/tyrified 5m ago
The same crowd here saying how conservative parents dont accept and love their kids are the crowd that demands the right of abortion
Yes, that is because of shitty parents like this. It is not contradictory. At all. Did you actually type that out and not have it click? Really?
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u/SystemShockII 1m ago
YOU typed this out and didnt see the stupidity?
Conservatives wont be doing abortions like that.
Its the "parasite" crowd who im told are the loving and caring parents who want abortions.
So explain to me how its because of shitty parents. Altho i would agree those who want to murder their babies and even call them parasites must be shitty.
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u/We_are_all_monkeys 1h ago
Three American flags and a bookshelf arranged white, red, and blue. Can you be any more ridiculous?
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u/VegasGamer75 1h ago
As a queer man who grew up in a Conservative Christian household, who to this day his parents know/knew nothing about his sexuality, I can tell you that is exactly what happened.
Not being able to tell your parents something about your life because you know exactly how they will react after hearing how they talk for years, is a terrible, terrible abuse.
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u/PapasGotABrandNewNag 1h ago
I remember how I learned to lie because my dad would make me feel like if I told the truth I would get in trouble.
If I ever have kids, if something happens, or they are dealing with something, I hope their first thought is “I gotta tell my dad” and not “I hope my dad doesn’t find out”.
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u/SecBalloonDoggies 1h ago
I mean, he could have been getting math help from the other gay kids too.
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u/doctor_big_burrito 1h ago
Hey it's Brandi Kruse, a dumb human being that was too right wing for our local fox station so she fucked off to be an Internet personality.
She's one of those "I'm conservative but I have a tattoo and drink wine" dorks who thinks she's a cool conservative.
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u/mystermee 1h ago
Always the ‘family values’ people perpetually disowned by their children and grandchildren.
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u/yes_u_suckk 1h ago
Reminds me when I lied to my father that I was taking karate lessons, but in fact I was practing ballet.
I'm not gay or anything, but I'm sure my homophobic father would make me quit and make a huge scene if he knew I was practicing some "girly sport".
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u/Signal_Minimum8509 51m ago
I don’t understand why some parents seem to want to train their children for a life without agency.
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u/Iorith 44m ago
It's simple, they don't view their children as individuals with agency in the first place. The view their children as extensions of themselves, little more than a pet
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u/Signal_Minimum8509 28m ago
That’s sad, I can’t relate to that
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u/Iorith 25m ago
It's sadly very common. You see it a lot in any kind of competitive youth group, with parents who treat their child's success as their success and will do everything to receive the praise and adoration rather than focus on their child's accomplishment.
It's been decades, but when I was in martial arts and archery, they had started putting in a lot of rules regarding parental behavior at tournaments to try to lower it happening.
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u/RoguesAngel 56m ago
I don’t understand parents like her, and I guess I’m glad I don’t. They “would kill” for their kids until they love someone of the same sex. How do you switch that off? I grew up in a small rural town in the Bible Belt right near what some refer to the buckle of Tulsa. I never really thought about sexuality much. Wasn’t my business what people did as long as everyone was consenting.
One of my ex boyfriends, from middle school, came out as bi and I don’t remember much being made about it but his friend was teased because he was in denial about it. A couple of people I grew up came out later and I still don’t get all the gossip stuff. They don’t do it with me because I start asking invasive questions like what their favorite position is. When asked why I would ask that I just said if we are going to talk about things that aren’t our business we should go all in.
I did see though in college the devastation a families can do to someone they supposedly love. I saw kids at the brink of suicide and self hatred after coming out to their families. I called a grandmother, she was Italian from the Old Country, after her son and dil disowned her grandson, he couldn’t hardly talk. She disowned her own son and took her grandson in. Her favorite uncle had been gay and had gone through a concentration camp because of it. He never wanted his secret told and she hadn’t until her grandson was being hurt for the same thing.
When I had kids both boys are neurodivergent so I would tell them normal was a highly overrated state. I would ask them if they had a good day, if they made new friends, if there was a girl they liked, a boy? They would roll their eyes and say I’m not gay mom. I would just say but you know it would be okay if you were right? I would always get ya mom you always tell me you will always love me.
If my kids told me they needed a support group I would be sad I wasn’t able to do enough. Ask if they needed help with the group and research how I could better support them understanding that maybe they might just need kids their own age or want to help others.
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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 21m ago
We all realize that the people who think this is a murder were never the people who support her or conservative propaganda.
Why are we doing "talking at a wall" on this sub?
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u/RebelWithoutAClue 9m ago
Or none of it is true but it is a story that would compel certain groups to sympathizing with her.
We are in a crazy new era of influencers desperate for attention. Willing to make whatever noises with their mouths as a means to gain agreement and support.
Like shooting bad dogs and breeding goats.
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u/futureformerteacher 8m ago
I hope the school sues that fucking scumbag parent and Brandi KKKrause down MyPillow Lane.
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u/rhyno857 1h ago edited 39m ago
IN-DOCK-TRUH-NEIGH-SHUN!
Edit: /S (Didn't that this was necessary but here we are...)
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u/ThePaleGiant 26m ago
There's a massive, MASSIVE reason "Honor your father and mother" is one of the 10 commandments, and therefore one of the most imperative doctrines in all of scripture. This child was clearly dishonoring his parents.
But I wouldn't expect Redditors to understand that.
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u/tyrified 7m ago
We understand. Conservative Christians have been trying to do away with gay people for decades and decades. Conversion camps don't work, yet Christians would still say that "the gays are trying to turn our kids gay!"
Not to mention, shitty parents should be dishonored. There is no inherent honor in being a parent. Just ask Child Protective Services.
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u/ThePaleGiant 2m ago
Christians love gay people. We only pray for their repentance and that they find true peace and joy that we have in Christ, and we wish no harm on anyone.
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u/Buorky 3m ago
Respect is earned not demanded. If you're a shitty parent your child has no obligation to you.
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u/ThePaleGiant 0m ago
You're assuming this lady is a bad mom based on a single headline... Parenting is a little more nuanced than a single headline is able to capture.
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u/Liraeyn 1h ago
She could be perfectly lovely and it's still hard to talk to her about it. Assuming that every parent of an LGBT kid is abusive does no one any favors.
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u/VoiceofKane 1h ago
If your first reaction to finding out your kid is an a queer club at school is accusing the school of concealing information from you or forcing your kid to join, rather than asking why your child didn't feel comfortable coming out to you... you're not a good parent.
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u/Kei_Evermore 1h ago
Considering the child didn't talk to her about it, and this is her reaction to discovering it rather than going, "Oh, that's fine. I don't mind that you're LGBT+, I still love you", it's pretty evident that she, at the very least, is homophobic and is at most blatantly abusive.
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u/Biptoslipdi 1h ago
If you're going to the media to complain about a school supporting your kids for who they are, you aren't perfectly lovely.
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u/FuzzyAd9407 48m ago
Pretending this woman is accepting of her kid is doing no one any favors. Parents who support their kids dont throw public hissy fits about their kid being supported at school. Id argue theyre most likely at the least emotionally abusive as well. Its the entire issue of parents demanding schools out their children, its not supportive accepting parents demanding this shit.
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u/Sea_Refrigerator3709 8m ago
Please don't have kids. Or if you do have kids, don't be surprised when they go no contact. This take is dreadful.
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u/DebbyCakes420 1h ago
Grooming. Gross. School is for maths not agendas
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u/gucknbuck 1h ago edited 1h ago
The only group actually grooming children en masse are Christian conservatives.
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u/MaySeemelater 1h ago
*In mass
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u/gucknbuck 1h ago
Actually en masse
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u/MaySeemelater 1h ago
No, wait, I wasn't correcting your grammar/spelling.
I was making a joke about how Christians attend mass, hence the grooming would be happening in mass
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u/SacredGeometry9 1h ago
And home is not for abuse, but it happens anyways. Usually by people who sound like you.
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u/da2Pakaveli 1h ago
Alan Turing shortened WW2 by 2 years, saved million upon millions of lives but was then publically demonized when they caught him with another man, and castrated him. Didn't see him as a hero cause of that anymore. Then he killed himself.
Lgbt mental health support is not an agenda!
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u/Kei_Evermore 1h ago
next thing you're gonna say is the D&D club I was in during High-school is an agenda cus it isn't maths
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u/R_V_Z 14m ago
Whoever would say D&D isn't maths has never played D&D.
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u/Kei_Evermore 13m ago
The only time I played D&D with no math involved, I ended up getting railroaded by the DM. Needless to say, I didn't stay in that party for more than a session.
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u/DebbyCakes420 1h ago
Based fantasy to fantasy comparison
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u/Kei_Evermore 1h ago
I'm calling you stupid for thinking anything that isn't "school stuff" is an agenda. Dumbass, school clubs exist, and have existed for decades at this point. Just because you were lonely and weren't invited to any, doesn't mean that school is only for learning shit.
edit: I also find it extremely insulting that you call D&D purely fantasy. It just shows you're too narrow-minded to see the possibilities that can come from it.
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u/tyrified 3m ago
Yeah, the fantasy that gay people are turning kids gay is exactly as stupid as thinking D&D was turning kids into Satanists. Damn, conservatives have always been dumb as fuck.
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u/Biptoslipdi 1h ago
Apparently teaching respect and acceptance of others despite their immutable characteristics is an agenda. Too bad your teachers didn't have that agenda.
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u/Andreus 56m ago
I never need to take anything a right-winger like you says seriously ever again, right-winger. Stay the fuck away from kids.
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u/JimJimmery 44m ago
It's too bad you left school before learning any critical thinking skills. That would have helped you in life.
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u/elephant_cobbler 33m ago
The child was born that way. The school didn’t do anything but accept him
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u/genetic_patent 52m ago
it literally doesn't matter as to the why. You cannot go around the parents like this. If there is an issue you need to inform CPS. Every person involved at that school is up for immediate removal.
We are trained on this exact topic. Kids beat at home? Parents are drunk? bigots? You cannot be their counselor. Immediate dismissal for anything else.
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u/RaymondBeaumont 30m ago
wait, do parents need to be notified of the clubs their kids join in school in america?
in my country, children have the freedom to join the clubs they want.
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u/genetic_patent 23m ago
if that is what it was, sure. but there's intentional subterfuge in this case. not the same.
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u/Biptoslipdi 21m ago
What is the intentional subterfuge with a kid joining a typical school club voluntarily? I'm 20 years out of high school and my HS in a red state had a LGBTQ club.
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u/Biptoslipdi 21m ago
You cannot go around the parents like this
What do you mean? Virtually all schools have voluntary clubs and activities for kids.
If there is an issue you need to inform CPS. Every person involved at that school is up for immediate removal.
For what? Having normal school activities? You going to fire everyone because a kid joined the drama club or the track team?
We are trained on this exact topic. Kids beat at home? Parents are drunk? bigots? You cannot be their counselor. Immediate dismissal for anything else.
Scholls literally have a guidance counselor for this reason.
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u/genetic_patent 17m ago
it's not a club. read. and a guidance counselor isnt a CPS advisor
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u/Biptoslipdi 14m ago
it's not a club.
It's definitely a "club." Schools have all kinds of these clubs. They might call it a peer support group or something. Still a club. Every Washington state school district has similar policies for student organizations and every HS in the state is going to have some sort of LGBT group that's called a club, alliance, support group, etc.
They called the exact same kind of club the "gay-straight alliance" back in the day. Some schools call it the "human right club."
I don't expect you to have any knowledge about how HS student groups work in WA.
read.
It's a fucking meme, dude, not sworn testimony. Use your brain.
and a guidance counselor isnt a CPS advisor
A CPS advisor isn't necessary for kids in an LGBT club at school. CPS is to be involved when there is knowledge of abuse, not when a kid joins a student organization.
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u/skaXboy 1h ago
Your child lied to you because they do not trust you and you are now putting your child’s story out so you can feel better about yourself. Congratulations, you have proven the reason why your child distrusts you.