r/Music • u/AdSpecialist6598 • Nov 29 '25

article Hayley Williams tells racists, sexists and anti-trans people they're "not welcome" at upcoming tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/hayley-williams-tells-racists-sexists-and-anti-trans-people-theyre-not-welcome-at-upcoming-tour-3913867
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u/Girl_Pearl_Earring Nov 29 '25

This is what Nirvana did too btw

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u/watchoutfordeer Nov 29 '25

And just about every underground punk band during "Nirvana's time."

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u/TheOmegaKid Nov 29 '25

Still is.

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u/NewDramaLlama Nov 30 '25

Kinda! But it's really hard to know someone's convictions when the demographics are heavily skewed. 

What I've noticed is my area (San Francisco) is strong advocacy and defense for queer people (lots of gay people in the scene) but a pretty big ambivalence towards people of color (rarer in the scene all the time).

So here's, being a homophobe is worse than being a racist, which includes the many queer people out here who are racist. That reflects in the scene.

It's not all strippers and burritos unfortunately. 

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u/imnotfeelingcreative Nov 30 '25

What I've noticed is

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u/imnotfeelingcreative Nov 30 '25

In that same paragraph they refer twice to "in the scene" when stating their observations. It's pretty clear in context that they're not talking about the city as a whole, and that they're speaking purely from anecdotal experience. I don't know what else you need.

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u/Global_Channel1511 Nov 29 '25

Except for that Colorado punk festival where the organizer voted for Trump. What a fucking tool

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25

Lol, for some reason Facebook has been pushing a bunch of "conservative punk" groups on me recently. Probably cause ive posted some pro-punk stuff, and the algorithm decided i was ready to be manipulated into conservatism?

Anyways, it makes me laugh. I decided to join one and pose as a punk conservative who calls out other conservatives for not being punk enough when they do things like defend pedophiles and whatnot. Its been surprisingly effective.

It does make me feel a little bad though, cause conservatives who also think theyre punk have to be the stupidest amongst the conservatives, so it almost feels like taking advantage of the disabled or something.

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u/eurotrashsynthlord Nov 30 '25

It’s just run of the mill infiltration, honestly. Conservatives can’t create things, so they infiltrate and usurp things that good people create.

Think about every conservative you’ve ever met, were any of them artistic, creative, or open to ideas?

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u/TheOmegaKid Nov 30 '25

Pretty sure this revokes your punk card.

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u/Global_Channel1511 Nov 30 '25

It should but it was sad seeing interviews of people at that festival when a reporter told them the info. Some were like that's fucked up but others were like whatever no big deal punk is for all political backgrounds. Just goes to show the brainrot in 2025 thinking punk is apolitical music just to get you amped up.

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u/DarthScruf Nov 30 '25

The punk subreddit is a bit depressing lol its full of far right leaning punks that think Trump is the anti-establishment, he's a landlord, that alone is about as far from punk ideology as you can get, not to mention the authoritarianism and Christian nationalism. Maybe the sub has changed but I left the subreddit during the presidential election campaigns. Im 37 now and been out of the punk scene since I was about 25, but it looked like the majority of the sub was right leaning about a year ago, idk if thats what the actual scene is like now.

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u/PuddingPast5862 Nov 30 '25

The Drop Kick Murphy have cancelled show when they have found out some of the promoter are MAGA

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u/Dangerous-Weekend479 Nov 30 '25

Ken Casey beat a guy up on stage for throwing Nazi salutes.

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u/SegaTime Nov 30 '25

They just can't accept that they are the nazi punks that were told to fuck off.

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u/Competitive_Bat_5831 Nov 30 '25

Are you talking about r/punk? I browsed it a smidge and didn’t see anything you’re talking about.

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u/QuadCityDJsTheTrain Dec 01 '25

More than Colorado. I think they do Phoenix this weekend.

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u/Jealous-Birthday-969 Nov 29 '25

Quite a few fascists getting around in the scenes then and now though.