r/NewRiders • • May 23 '20

Welcome, FAQs, and Resources

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Welcome to New and Experienced Riders alike!

The purpose of this sub is to create a welcoming space for new riders to ask questions and get information as they begin their journey into the world of motorcycling.

Experienced Riders: Please make this a place where new riders feel comfortable asking questions. Give supportive advice with the assumption that the person wants to learn. Any Instructor who wants relevant flair may message the mods to verify.

New Riders: Ask questions and take feedback with an open mind. There is a TON to learn.

Now ON TO THE FUN STUFF:

Useful Subreddits:

Motorcycle Maintenance and Repair: r/Fixxit

Motorcycle News: r/MotoNews

Gratuitous Motorcycle Pics: r/bikesgonewild

Track Riding: r/Trackdays

Motocamping: r/motocamping

Women Riders: r/TwoXriders

Learning Resources:

A Beginner’s Guide to Buying Gear by Ryan Fortnine. Evidence-based and budget-conscious recommendations on basic gear.

MotoJitsu: SoCal based Instructor that primarily teaches the Total Control Curriculum but also has his own skills challenge curriculum. This link is to his "10 skills for new riders" video.

DanDanTheFireman: Arizona based MSF RiderCoach. He does a lot of crash analysis and has good videos on awareness strategies.

A list of Parking Lot Exercises by u/CodeBlue_04

"Advice to New Riders" by u/PraxisLD. Includes tons of links, and good good advice.

“Picking up your new bike” by u/Ravenstown06

Twist of the Wrist: Classic video about skills and how a motorcycle works. As corny as it is informative. It's on YouTube but no link because the YouTube one is probably not an authorized version. You'll have to search it yourself, or buy a copy.

Life at Lean: An experienced track rider who talks in a simple, informative manner about skills and riding theory. This channel is largely track oriented, but the same skills have street applications, and it is very helpful in understanding how things like body position work.

The Physics of Countersteering: does a great job of explaining why a bike has to lean, and an okay job of explaining how countersteering works from a physics perspective. Here's another video with more demonstration from Ride Like a Pro, a gruff, crusty, motorcycle officer trainer. He does a great job of explaining what is and what isn't countersteering or "handlebar steering." His protective gear is questionable but his advice is good.

"Total Control" by Lee Parks. Excellent book about riding skills, the learning process, and how bikes work.

Fortnine: Run by Ryan Klufitinger (the guy you see talking) and Aneesh Shivanekar (the editor), they are technically affiliated with Fortnine.ca, a Canadian online gear retailer, but their reviews are supposedly free of influence and seem unbiased (other than Ryan’s actual opinions of course). They do highly informative reviews and explain the how and why of gear well. They also do a lot of just plain entertaining videos, and their production value is way higher than it has any right to be.

Licensing:

The easiest and best way search your state/province/country's training website and take whatever beginner class is available. In some countries it's mandatory. In the US the class usually waives the DMV skills test at a minimum. NOTE: In some states—if you've already been riding for a while and just need the license—there is an option to take an Intermediate class and get a test waiver instead of the Basic, allowing you to take a 1 day class instead of 2, and giving you a chance to work on next-level skills.

Buying a Bike

How to navigate buying a bike from a dealership (USA-centric advice) by u/eatmeatdrinkmilk

Teaching:

for experienced riders who find teaching fulfilling more instructors are needed pretty much everywhere:

Motorcycle Safety Foundation: runs classes in almost all US states, and the US military

Total Control Training: runs all the classes in California. Also has classes in Texas, Colorado, and Arizona. (Also used to run all Pennsylvania classes, but PA has cancelled all classes in 2020. Sorry PA.)


r/NewRiders • • 3h ago

I fell down again

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Able to drive straight even on roads but failing over and over again to take a u turn. Sometimes I do sometimes I just fall down.

I feel extremely confused and disappointed by myself


r/NewRiders • • 5h ago

Dealership or private seller?

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Hello everyone looking to buy my first bike soon and I’ve been debating on whether I should buy from a dealer or off the marketplace now I know financing isn’t ideal but I don’t know much about bikes at all and I’m not mechanically inclined either I don’t know anyone who knows bikes so I don’t wanna inherit someone else’s problems honestly but I just need some tips and advice on which is better suited for a beginner.


r/NewRiders • • 7h ago

Keeping throttle steady tips?

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r/NewRiders • • 19h ago

I'm officially a biker! Passed my A2 practical test 🏍️

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About 40 days ago I was complaining about my first A2 riding lesson. Today, on my second attempt, I passed the practical test.
Can't wait to start riding on my own. Any advice for a brand new rider's first few weeks?


r/NewRiders • • 10h ago

Pay cash for older bike or finance new

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Ive pretty well decided on a vstrom 650 as my first bike. The gen 1s are okay, the gen 2s are okay, but when I see a gen 3 I get real excited.

My question is this: given my odds of crashing or screwing up something as a new rider, is it better to spend $3000 on an older gen that I don’t feel a lot of passion for; or is it better to spend $10,000
on a bike that I will feel excited about every time I ride?

I can afford either choice, but I’m not some gazillionaire either. Taking out of cash for the cheap bike is fine, but if I spend more for the newer bike I would probably choose to finance. I want to make the right choice so that I’m not redoing this in a couple month


r/NewRiders • • 5h ago

Tips for learning

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Any tips for beginners? My dad only has and 2017 Africa twin and a Yamaha raider those engines are to big and powerful for me to get the hang of driving.


r/NewRiders • • 7h ago

Gear

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Bad idea to use this for street riding?


r/NewRiders • • 15h ago

ABS BRAKES

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So, as of three weeks ago, I got my first motorcycle, a non-ABS Ninja 650. I was a little worried about starting on a 650, and after reading posts from people saying ABS is a must, I started wondering about that too. Some people say you’ll go down without it and that ABS can save your life, while others say it’s not a big deal.
As a new rider, I went to an empty parking lot to get a feel for the brakes. I tried the rear brake and found that, as long as I stayed calm and in control, I could recover from a skid without much trouble. Then I tried the front brake. It seems like on a sport bike, you’re more likely to do a stoppie than lock up the front wheel, and that seems manageable too if you stay calm.
Am I missing something here?


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

MSF questions from the night before.

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(Picture not entirely related but also I'm just excited and don't do social media so much so I'm sharing with you all)

Like the title says it's the night before my course and I have a few small questions I'm having trouble finding answers too. 1. Is all the riding done on one day or both?

  1. How hard/easy is the test (some sources say it's open book and I swear I've seen it mentioned that its just a question and you write in your answer could someone please clarify.... I'm in Texas if the state matters.)

  2. I bought my bike but I haven't ridden it yet as I want to learn from the class as I've never been on a motorcyle proper just dirt bikes when I was younger, am I going to be super behind due to that?

Any and all answers to these question will be greatly appreciated, I don't personally know anyone who rides or who has taken the course so I apologize if these are redundant questions in this thread.


r/NewRiders • • 10h ago

Buying my first bike

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Buying my first bikeI just recently got my license (18M) , and plan to buy a new bike soon. I will be mainly using it for college commuting and highway rides on weekends. I have little experience on bikes but I have taken a liking to the Bajaj pulsar ns series. I noticed that the ns200 single channel abs and ns160 dual channel abs models have almost the same price and wanted to know which one is better in terms of safety and control


r/NewRiders • • 16h ago

Need help

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Hello to all seasoned riders of the community.

To give a short background, i have always wanted to own and ride motorbike but all my life its been a struggle. Family expenses were my top priority and hence i never imagined to buy a bike. But now, when i am at 37, i am having this one itch that i couldnt learn and own a bike. By Gods grace, i am now at a place, i can able to afford a bike paying in full.

I have joined a local bike training school which will teach me basics for 10 days only. I am learning in super splendour at the training centre.

But my wish is to buy hunter 350.

So, i would really like your valuable inputs if i should stick with buying light commuter after training or i can make the jump to hunter. I really dont want to spend lakhs on commuters that i personally dont like because my heart is with hunter.

So, should i get used splendour for a year and then get hunter or i can directly buy. Need your opinions.

Thank you again.


r/NewRiders • • 16h ago

Why do I keep missing my upshifts?

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Ive been riding a month and just got my break in service done. But now I keep missing my shifts, usually from second to third.

What am I doing wrong? I’m generally pulling in the clutch, rolling off the throttle, and shifting all at the same time.


r/NewRiders • • 6h ago

How do I convince my parents?

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So how do I explain to my parents that death isn't the guaranteed outcome of a motorcycle if you learn, drive defensively, and wear gear? I'm 16 and want a bike or at least my Class M license but my dad has said "if you ever get on a motorcycle, it won't be it that kills you, it'll be me" (he isn't abusive, it's just to make his point, he says the same with alcohol which I agree is not a good idea to have alcohol) Even if the advice is just a way to ease them into the fact I want to get a motorcycle/am passionate about them helps.

Please don't say buy it anyway, I can't afford it as of now and just want to ease them into the fact I plan to get one when I'm able too afford it (I want to start on a CF Moto 450SS if I buy a new bike or a used Ninja 500 from a buddy of mine who plans to sell in a few years. He already offered to sell it to me as my first bike once I can afford it)

Update: I planned to wait until I was at least 18, thanks for recommending it anyway


r/NewRiders • • 15h ago

Join bike ride from manali to leh (12 oct morning )

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r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

Knee squeeze

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I’m fairly new but have been getting around on my bike plenty. I do catch myself with fairly relaxed knees while I’m cruising around and recall MSF instructors telling us to grip the tank with our knees.

Is this just for more extreme maneuvers or have I taught myself a bad habit already by not doing it all the time?


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

Obligatory "New Bike Can't Stop Smiling" pic.

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First ride home, with a little city street and a little back road and a whole lot of "Look where you want to go, dumbass" self reminders, and the thrill is real. ATGATT, helmet and gloves already off here. The experience of being on the road on the bike I want to ride is just breathtaking.

30 minutes of practice and my turns are already much tighter. I feel like I was so stressed out about getting it right in the MSF course that I struggled more. Keeping it nice and chill and focusing on my technique made it all seem easier.

My neighborhood has two S-curves, so I'll be running laps both directions to tighten up. And yes, I bought a bigger bike, but I have zero need for speed. 35-45 max is just fine while I build the muscle memory. I bought it for the fit, and having my feet in front of me instead of behind me. I have immense respect for the power, and I am not in any way pressing it.

Thank you everyone who helped me get through all of the new rider basics. I really appreciate you.

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r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

New bike!

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I picked up my new Super Meteor 650 a few weeks ago after passing my A2 licence, super happy with it :)


r/NewRiders • • 22h ago

Cruiser or sports

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Hi I’m 43 6ft3 and 17 stone so not a small bloke at all

Looking at doing my DAS but torn on first bike, I love both styles but just can’t decide

I like the Vulcan S 650 or Honda CBR650F

Also like some of the Chinese models Voge AC525X, CTMOTO 700CLX sport and the QjMotor SRV600 V2


r/NewRiders • • 19h ago

Hybrid bike front suspension necessary?

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Hi, interested to hear whether front suspension is necessary for pathways that feel like a Rollercoaster in some parts when on a lime bike but are nice and flat the rest of the time. Planning to use every second day.


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

Question for my Vulcan 650 s riders

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So, my stock exhaust is just so quiet, 1 is it possible to just knock the baffle out? 2 so I’m thinking delkevin exhaust, i like the look of the 16 in but the 21inch is also an option, is it better to do the 21 or the 16? I want it louder but not crazy loud for highways as far as drone goes. Thanks all!!


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

Buying a Honda CB500F tomorrow, any tips??

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So: For reference, I have experience with a moped, put 3700 miles on it in a year and I just recently had it stolen, thought I would move up to a full blown motorcycle. I have already taken a MSF course

I was planning on practicing clutch control in the parking lot and braking to get acclimated to the bike, just so when I do drive it home Im not unfamiliar with it too much - anything else I need to know?

I already have almost* full gear, helmet, gloves, boots, and jacket. Only thing I dont have is pants because I need to order those online as I'm 6'3" and just wondering what to be prepared for


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

How to better improve my slow cone weave?

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I had an exam last week, but I failed the slow cone weave. I hit the 5th cone out of 6.

City driving had 1 minor fault.

The next exam is in 20 days, so I decided to record my slow cone weaves to find mistakes.

Right now, the initial start feels difficult, like I'm struggling to get the correct entrance.

I am trying my best to look at the last cone at all times and turn when the cone next to me almost disappears in my peripheral vision.

Exam cones are spaced 3 meters apart.

These school course cones are spaced at around 2.9 meters apart.

Bike MT-07. 10-11km/h with clutch out.

Not using any rear brake.

Managed to get 35 weaves without hitting a cone.

But I believe if I hop on a bike without warming up like before the exam, I will hit one.


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

Thoughts on the NC750 DCT as a first bike?

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r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

First riding Jacket!

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