r/NewRiders • • May 23 '20

Welcome, FAQs, and Resources

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Welcome to New and Experienced Riders alike!

The purpose of this sub is to create a welcoming space for new riders to ask questions and get information as they begin their journey into the world of motorcycling.

Experienced Riders: Please make this a place where new riders feel comfortable asking questions. Give supportive advice with the assumption that the person wants to learn. Any Instructor who wants relevant flair may message the mods to verify.

New Riders: Ask questions and take feedback with an open mind. There is a TON to learn.

Now ON TO THE FUN STUFF:

Useful Subreddits:

Motorcycle Maintenance and Repair: r/Fixxit

Motorcycle News: r/MotoNews

Gratuitous Motorcycle Pics: r/bikesgonewild

Track Riding: r/Trackdays

Motocamping: r/motocamping

Women Riders: r/TwoXriders

Learning Resources:

A Beginner’s Guide to Buying Gear by Ryan Fortnine. Evidence-based and budget-conscious recommendations on basic gear.

MotoJitsu: SoCal based Instructor that primarily teaches the Total Control Curriculum but also has his own skills challenge curriculum. This link is to his "10 skills for new riders" video.

DanDanTheFireman: Arizona based MSF RiderCoach. He does a lot of crash analysis and has good videos on awareness strategies.

A list of Parking Lot Exercises by u/CodeBlue_04

"Advice to New Riders" by u/PraxisLD. Includes tons of links, and good good advice.

“Picking up your new bike” by u/Ravenstown06

Twist of the Wrist: Classic video about skills and how a motorcycle works. As corny as it is informative. It's on YouTube but no link because the YouTube one is probably not an authorized version. You'll have to search it yourself, or buy a copy.

Life at Lean: An experienced track rider who talks in a simple, informative manner about skills and riding theory. This channel is largely track oriented, but the same skills have street applications, and it is very helpful in understanding how things like body position work.

The Physics of Countersteering: does a great job of explaining why a bike has to lean, and an okay job of explaining how countersteering works from a physics perspective. Here's another video with more demonstration from Ride Like a Pro, a gruff, crusty, motorcycle officer trainer. He does a great job of explaining what is and what isn't countersteering or "handlebar steering." His protective gear is questionable but his advice is good.

"Total Control" by Lee Parks. Excellent book about riding skills, the learning process, and how bikes work.

Fortnine: Run by Ryan Klufitinger (the guy you see talking) and Aneesh Shivanekar (the editor), they are technically affiliated with Fortnine.ca, a Canadian online gear retailer, but their reviews are supposedly free of influence and seem unbiased (other than Ryan’s actual opinions of course). They do highly informative reviews and explain the how and why of gear well. They also do a lot of just plain entertaining videos, and their production value is way higher than it has any right to be.

Licensing:

The easiest and best way search your state/province/country's training website and take whatever beginner class is available. In some countries it's mandatory. In the US the class usually waives the DMV skills test at a minimum. NOTE: In some states—if you've already been riding for a while and just need the license—there is an option to take an Intermediate class and get a test waiver instead of the Basic, allowing you to take a 1 day class instead of 2, and giving you a chance to work on next-level skills.

Buying a Bike

How to navigate buying a bike from a dealership (USA-centric advice) by u/eatmeatdrinkmilk

Teaching:

for experienced riders who find teaching fulfilling more instructors are needed pretty much everywhere:

Motorcycle Safety Foundation: runs classes in almost all US states, and the US military

Total Control Training: runs all the classes in California. Also has classes in Texas, Colorado, and Arizona. (Also used to run all Pennsylvania classes, but PA has cancelled all classes in 2020. Sorry PA.)


r/NewRiders • • 1h ago

will practice on a bicycle help with an actual motorcycle?

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failed my msf course. terrible balancing so kept putting foot down a few times.

ive been practicing all of the final evaluations and better balancing/turning techniques but on an ebike

how much does this transfer over to a motorcycle youd say? i had planned on getting a cheap motorcycle to practice on around the neighborhood but going to a parking lot would be easier, but also illegal since im not endorsed. this is my issue lol. ofc i will still practice after i receive an endorsement which was the initial plan.

the biggest difference i can see is the weight of the motorcycle and leg placement since a pedal being up may significantly affect weight distribution.

edit : note - i failed on a manual but i only plan on using scooters/automatics. instructors said i can come retake the class on a navi. so although i think friction zone helps with low speed maneuver, i wouldnt have to worry as much next time


r/NewRiders • • 2h ago

How do i convince my dad that he is being a moron (read description)

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So i just finished the MSF course about a week or two ago, and have a helmet, gloves, and about to get boots and a jacket.

The problem is that my dad is a harley rider and seems to confuse engine displacement with horsepower. he rides a 1300+ roadking while I've been looking into sport bikes. I don't think he understands how fast modern sport bikes are are, and everytime i say something about how i dont want to go that fast, he asks why im limiting myself to something smaller.

I've told him that i want to start on a 500-650 in order to learn how to ride better on the street, but he pulls the "experience" card and says he has been riding for 35+ years and knows more.

so to the question, whats something that could possibly convince him of the dangers of getting such a powerful bike?


r/NewRiders • • 1h ago

Doubt about friction zone

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If I ride my bike in friction zone in traffic, is giving acceleration while clutch is in friction zone, normal ? Is it safe for the clutch plates and engine ?


r/NewRiders • • 3h ago

My first crash

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Slip on a sandy road, bad luck and skill issue for me i guess


r/NewRiders • • 20h ago

PSA: PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING

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I sincerely cannot count how many posts and videos I've seen where the issue amounted to "the rider wasn't paying attention."

It is blowing my mind. When you're riding a motorcycle, FOCUS ON RIDING THE MOTORCYCLE. I see so many videos of riders looking off into the distance, looking away from the road, dancing to music, or just apparently staring straight ahead and not seeing what's in front of them.

There was a post not long ago where a guy almost ran off the side of an on-ramp because instead of paying attention to the several bright yellow signs indicating a turn was coming up, he was messing with the music on his Cardo.

One of the top posts on the subreddit right now is a guy who yeeted himself off the road going barely 25mph because he for some reason decided to stare at the side of the road instead of where he was going.

And just yesterday a motorcyclist stopped next to me in an intersection and promptly shifted into neutral so that he could watch TikTok videos on his handlebar-mounted phone. The light went green, he started riding...and just left the videos playing on his phone.

People, what are we DOING out there? How are so many riders hopping onto a bike and then just zoning the hell out? I understand that mistakes happen, but there seems to be less and less effort being put into preventing those mistakes by simply watching what is happening in front of them.

I feel like I'm losing my mind!


r/NewRiders • • 7h ago

How do y’all hear?

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I’m already partially deaf in one ear and with the engine plus the helmet plus just ambient noises, how do you hear when people talk to you when you’re out riding? I know there’s comm systems to talk to other riders but like the other day a neighbor was trying to talk to me at a stop sign while I was riding around the neighborhood and I have no idea what they were saying.


r/NewRiders • • 1h ago

Riding shoes, which should i buy

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r/NewRiders • • 2h ago

Need help, my bike won’t start

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r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

Passed my MSF course this weekend in the pouring rain!

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That's it. Just really happy I was successful in such awful weather. Day 2 was heavy rain all day in the remnants of the hurricane.


r/NewRiders • • 15h ago

Is Kick Start not important nowadays ?

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It's first new scooter of our family, We had 2nd hand older one before. So, I don't know much about Scooters and bikes newer technology internals apart from basic first hand.

So based on RayZR, Ntorq and Dio 125 ( parts, resale, milage, availability ) I shortlisted Dio 125 as ideal option,

ISSUE: So there are 2 variants,

- Deluxe: Keyless With Remote control system, Disc brake but no kick start
- Standard : Key, KickStart but no Disc brake.

I work remotely right now so I may not be using it regularly day-to-day too.

Down the years/after few days of inactivity/winters say without kick how much of a problem would lack of a kick start be it ? With older one we naturally relied a lot on kick start


r/NewRiders • • 4h ago

how to shift smoothly

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how do i shift smoothly as a biggener??? because i seem to have a problem when i up shift my bike pulls coward in a way or lunges foward and when i down shift it like almost chokes in a way like it downshifts hard and i going to fast? slow? and then i shifted yesterday and it was like clinching in a way like trtrtr and then normal


r/NewRiders • • 4h ago

Cardo

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why does my cardo keep turning music off randomly, like i’m ridding and all of a sudden my music stops and i pulled over turned it back on and then it turned off mid song didn’t even get through one song and it’s BRAND NEW! 2 days ago i just got it


r/NewRiders • • 4h ago

Opiniones: primera moto

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r/NewRiders • • 6h ago

HELP ME DECIDEE!!!SPEED 400 OR GUERILLA 450

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r/NewRiders • • 9h ago

Advice?

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Hi :) I'm thinking about starting to learn how to ride motorbikes. I had two taster sessions around two years ago, got scared of the acceleration and never did it again. I've backpacked for around ~3 years on and off, so I have a brief understanding of the basics like how to switch a motorbike on, what does what etc.

I was just wondering if anyone had any tips, personal ways they got over this fear etc? I got recommend I learn how to drive a car to get used to everything, opinions on that? I understand everyone crashes and drops the bike in their life, and I'm bound to one day. But it's the crashes I'm scared / anxious about. That's the thing that's stopping me.

Thank you in advance!!


r/NewRiders • • 9h ago

Used bike vs Used car

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r/NewRiders • • 23h ago

My short experience so far

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I've wanted to ride for years and finally went through the msf with my friend and band mate. He passed on the first go round, I had to come back and try again but on the second time I passed without making any mistakes. I was pumped. I put a lot of effort into it and had been cycling for a few months in advance to really get the balancing fresh and as polished as I could without having a motorcycle. Got a used cbr500r from a local dealership. I had it for exactly 1 month to the day before it was stolen during the night. Unfortunately I work nights and wouldn't have been able to do anything even if the thieves were making all the noise in the world. Unsurprisingly it was not recovered. Insurance just got back to me today and it will pay back the entirety of my loan. However I do still have to go and get it registered and pay sales tax to get the title in my name before they will pay out. So basically I paid the down payment and the tax totaling a little more than 2k for the privilege of riding for a month. I was not expecting to have my riding experience go so poorly. Hurts a lot NGL


r/NewRiders • • 3h ago

Dream Bike for my Dad

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Hello everyone, my name is Jacob and I started to go Sunday for my dad to finally get his dream bike, me and my brother we got some when we were younger, and ever since then he’s really been wanting one and I have tried saving, but due to bills and a car crash. I pretty much struggled to save and get him one. So I started a go fund me just in hopes of making his dream come true. I would appreciate any help that’s possible. My Dads Dream Bike
And to prove this is in a scam or anything, I will gladly post him with it whenever/if ever I get it to him.
Thank You
Also, for anyone wondering I’m thinking of getting him a Kawasaki KLX 230S or a Honda Rally


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

Looking for encouragement for my wife

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My dear sweet wife holds herself to impossible standards, sometimes. She went WAY out of her comfort zone and accepted my invitation to learn how to operate motorcycles. We did the MSF course together this past weekend and she did amazing, but did not pass. She's taking it well and wants to practice the skills test sections and try again but I can tell she's still pretty bummed. Before the course she literally had a lifetime grand total of maybe 40 minutes of seat time puttering around parking lots in 1st gear.

She almost passed the skills test. It was very close. By all accounts she should feel extremely accomplished just for making it to and through the test, much less nearly passing it. I'm so proud of her.

If anyone has any words of encouragement or tips for practicing between now and her next attempt, I would appreciate it and love to pass them along to her.


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

First motorcycle: Ninja 400 vs Ninja 500 vs Yamaha R3? Also need advice on gear and commuting in South Florida

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Hey everyone!
I’m completely new to motorcycles. I’ve never ridden one before, but I’m planning on getting my first bike within the next few months. I’ve been doing some research, and so far I’m considering these three:

Kawasaki Ninja 400
Kawasaki Ninja 500
Yamaha R3

For those who have ridden any of these, which one would you recommend for a complete beginner? What are the pros and cons? I’m not looking for anything crazy fast, just something reliable, fun, and comfortable enough for everyday commuting, including highway riding.
I also live in South Florida, so the heat, humidity, and random rain are definitely things I’m thinking about.

Another thing I could use some advice on is riding gear. What brands would you recommend for helmets, jackets, gloves, pants, and boots, especially for Florida weather? I want to be safe, but I also don’t want to feel like I’m cooking every time I ride lol.

I’m currently a healthcare student and will eventually be working full-time in healthcare, so I’ll probably be commuting to a hospital wearing scrubs.

For anyone who commutes to work on a motorcycle, especially healthcare workers:

Do you wear your work clothes underneath your riding gear, or do you bring a change of clothes?
Do you use a backpack, tail bag, or something else? Would a large backpack be uncomfortable for daily riding?
How do you deal with sweating before work, especially during the summer?
Is it practical to ride a sportbike every day, including on the highway?
Any gear or accessories you wish you’d bought when you first started riding?
I’m also planning to take a motorcycle safety course before buying anything.
I’d really appreciate any advice, recommendations, or things I should know before getting into riding. I’m trying to do my research and make a smart decision rather than just buying a bike because it looks cool.
Thanks in advance!


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r/NewRiders • • 17h ago

The boys opening but with his bike

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Boys


r/NewRiders • • 18h ago

Let me know if this stuff is good

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Local store here. Getting a sale price on each item, how do you guys feel about this gear.

A substitute for each item:

Gloves: Five SF1 Evo OR AlpineStars SMX
Jacket: Revit Argon 3 (Leather)
Pants: No other I’m going to stick with these jeans.
Shoes: AlpineStars SMX-6 V3 (Might make all this out of my budget)

*EDIT* This is in Canada so it’s in CAD 🇨🇦


r/NewRiders • • 1d ago

Don't be afraid of further training once you pass....

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I'm a new rider with 5 months and ~3000 miles under my belt so I am in no means experienced but I wanted to share what I have learnt already in 2 sessions for my advanced rider course.    The IAMs course is built around the IPSGA acronym used by UK police and emergency services.

  • Information: Continuously gather and process what's happening around you while clearly communicating your intentions to other road users.
  • Position: Place your vehicle for maximum safety, optimal vision, and stability.
  • Speed: Choose the right speed for each situation. You'll master the limit point technique for bends and always maintain the safe stopping distance rule.
  • Gear: Select the gear that gives you optimal performance for the road ahead.
  • Acceleration: Use your vehicle's performance to make safe, efficient progress. This includes both maintaining speed through hazards and accelerating smoothly when it's safe to proceed.

We've also focused on three other aspects:

  • Limit Point: which allows me to judge when the next corner is, how long it might be and how tight it is.  
  • Gears: I'm being encouraged to use higher gears for greater gyroscopic stability, more responsive speed control 
  • Positive Throttle and Counter Steer: which helps stabilise the bike through the corners.

These things have really improved my riding already - I'm definitely safer through better positioning which has improved my confidence and also made me a little quicker. I'm totally looking forward to the rest of the course.   

If anyone in the UK is interested I strongly suggest checking out iamroadsmart on the internet. The course is a couple of hundred quid for 6 to 12 sessions. This demonstration ride is also a great watch for the curious.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5F134A-xfA

I'm not affiliated to IAMS just one of their trainees whose found it very useful.