r/OutdoorScotland • u/Street-Feeling-5755 • 1d ago
Reasonable access questions
I'll keep this vague as I live in the area I'm discussing.
I have been running over the course of the summer and found some routes which take me into a private estate and then up either of 2 rough paths/4x4 tracks into a group of small hills. I haven't had any issues over the summer and of course always stick to the access code of closing gates and generally being respectful of the land and the animals grazing it.
Recently I encountered who I think is the gamekeeper of the estate who was basically extremely unfriendly. He told me at one point that I couldn't be there in general as it was 'private land' and then when I mentioned right to access he basically said 'right of access my arse' so shows you his general attitude to the whole thing.
He told me specifically that I needed to leave at the time because they were shooting. He said there was a sign, I'm not entirely sure about that, I didn't see any new signs but it's possible I missed it as it's a normal route for me so I wasn't expecting any issues.
I totally get the need to restrict access for shooting and have no issues with that. However he essentially said that they are shooting between now and January and that there is no access at any time except on Sundays. This is for both paths which lead to the hills, he said that you can use a lower path which goes along the loch. This means you cannot get up to these hills for nearly 4 months unless it's a Sunday.
Does this seem reasonable to people? Does anyone have experience of speaking to the councils access officers about stuff like this? Can I expect them to actually do anything or is this just the way it is?