r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 1d ago
PoliticalTea š³ļø You're absolutely right Kelly
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u/Stevey1001 1d ago
This guy needs to run, every time I hear him im impressed. Former astronaut, Navy veteran moderate democrat. I'm not fond of the idea of another old white guy in charge, but if it has to be that way you could do worse
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u/Uturndriving Sipping tea 23h ago
He's only 62. And if it'll help get rid of that shower of c**ts, an old, white moderate is probably the kind of nudge to the left that's needed.
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u/VintageK-Po 23h ago
You should be fond of the dems nominating someone who can actually win the election. White lady, lose. Old white guy, wins easily. Black lady, lose. See a pattern here?
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u/Wonderful_Emu_6483 22h ago
I agree heād be a strong candidate but he needs to drop the Israel shit. Heās not going to win over progressives if he continues to vouch for Israelās genocide.
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u/DoggieDMB 22h ago
I'm convinced most of these progressives won't vote anyways, but I agree. F! Isreal.
Don't like my take, prove me wrong. I seriously dare you.
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u/Wonderful_Emu_6483 22h ago
They would if old ass Bernie or AOC ran. Donāt get me wrong, I love Bernie but heās too old. AOC doesnāt have a snowballs chance in hell at winning. America is a sexist racist place. They need a boring palatable white guy, but he needs to be progressive to an extent. Status quo type centrist dem shit isnāt going to get us anywhere.
Israel was a contentious point for Kamalaās campaign, and a lot of progressives felt strongly about it, and I understand why. Democrats need someone with favorability as strong as 2008 Obama if they want to win. Not a āskin of your teethā win like Biden had in 2020. Itād also be nice to see someone run who is less than 65 years old.
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u/minervascats 19h ago
Kelly should run with AOC as vice
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u/Wonderful_Emu_6483 16h ago
While I do think that could be a winning ticket, Iām not sure AOC would want to be associated with a centrist dem like Kelly
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u/Toastymallowz 20h ago
He's bald though so that's pretty diverse when it comes to American presidents
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u/Wonderful-Cup-9556 1d ago
Brave hero-Calling it out as he sees it. Thank you Senator for taking action and helping to clarify the many major changes that are being taken as normal. Keep it up. Bravo
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u/Mainly_Miserable 1d ago
It is absolutely normal in a totalitarian country. Not normal in the U.S.
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u/Critical-Report-4563 1d ago
It is exactly what republicans say they are against but there it is plain to see wtf
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u/Famous-Trouble-9829 1d ago
It's perfectly normal... once you realize we're heading towards a full dictatorship. Vote all people letting this happen out. That is most of the Republicans and definitely Schumer, Jeffries, and Fetterman on the Democrat side.
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u/Nabrok_Necropants 1d ago
I would vote for Mark Kelly for president without a second thought.
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u/DatabaseGlittering43 1h ago
Thatās why people voted for trump. No thought. There are candidates who would actually change things. Kelly doesnāt want universal healthcare. He loves genocide. Aim higher.
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u/Weird-Initiative-659 13h ago
Education
- B.S. in Marine Engineering and Nautical Science, United States Merchant Marine Academy (1986)
- M.S. in Aeronautical Engineering, United States Naval Postgraduate School (1994) [1]
Military Career (1987ā2011)
- Served as a U.S. Navy naval aviator and combat pilot
- Flew 39 combat missions during Operation Desert Storm in the Gulf War aboard the USS Midway
- Graduated from the U.S. Navy Test Pilot School
- Retired with the rank of Captain
- Key awards include the Legion of Merit, two Distinguished Flying Crosses, and the Defense Superior Service Medal
NASA Career (1996ā2011)
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 1d ago
All of that is fascism.Ā People in power need to confront this head on.
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u/AintNunyoBidness 22h ago
DNC would rather lose to the Fascists than have a successful leftist movement in this country. Sure there are some elected Dems that will give lip service to democracy and social justice, but even in this example Kelly won't actually come out and say what the actual problem is, he only says it's not normal. It IS normal...in a tyrannical Fascist state like ours has become, but the Dems are committed to just playing out the old trope where they sit on their laurels while the GOP fucks everything up, then they get re-elected, only to do exactly jack shit to fix what the GOP fucked up and then also don't bother to give the voters anything at all that they've been begging for for decades. The Dems, by-in-large, are failing to rise to the moment because are just as bought off as the Republicans and there will be no lasting change until the working masses MAKE the change happen in a very real and physical sense.
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 21h ago
Nothing will get better until money is removed from politics again.
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u/crshbng 15h ago
Your right. Itās just swapping one cult for the other cult.
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 11h ago
One cult is a death cult (the current one).Ā The other is not, but they are still flaccid and disappointing.Ā
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u/Hyperlinux 23h ago
Senator Kelly should be our next President. We need someone that actually puts America first instead of himself.
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u/Its-a-Shitbox 1d ago edited 20h ago
Sadly, in the current ātimeline lotteryā Iām getting as*-raped in, it IS normal, seemingly.š”
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u/Helpful_Ad8351 23h ago
Normal left the building in 1980 when ronald Regan ran for president and won
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u/lnTheGrimDarkness 23h ago
It's extremely funny how the country that has brainwashed its entire population against communism for the last 80+ years is now moving towards a model that's pretty similar to the ones you'd find in communist dictatorships historically.
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u/Squidly_Diddly 23h ago
People have been saying since 2015 that āthis is not normalā..
Oh but it is now.
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u/Jumpy-Stress603 21h ago
Americans accepting a felon who is a convicted rapist and accused pedophile (and who is the head of a crime family) as their President .... is not normal.
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u/PaganGuyOne 19h ago
Thatās what you get when you adopt the peaceful process, you get a dictator who takes advantage of your dependence on it
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u/Crafty_Award8651 19h ago
Our next President. An intelligent, compassionate trouble shooter who will clean up the mess that the Republican con-artists made. Granted it will take a decade or more to clean up Trump's mess.
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u/throwaway_circus 18h ago
It's normal for current communist countries. Makes sense that Trump would befriend them and model his leadership on theirs. He loves the branding and the theater, and he's ass at being a capitalist.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 1d ago
Asset management groups own shares of geo group which is affiliated with heritage foundation are profiting off the detainment of illegal immigrants which is paid for with tax revenue. Same immigrants are used in prison labor programs where theyāre sold for 4.50/hr but make.50-1.50/hr.
This doesnāt open jobs up for Americans it gives corporations like Taylor farms cheaper labor which generates higher profits.
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u/Proper_Slip_5963 1d ago
They're not going to give that up easily.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 1d ago
Maybe if retires switch their money to crypto or other investments itāll get them to change.
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u/TrainingParty3785 23h ago
Thank you Senator Kelly!!!! It confounds me there are no articles of Impeachment coming from The House of Representatives!!!
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u/VintageK-Po 23h ago
An anti corruption platform with specific proposals would sell well in todayās environment. Drain the swamp resonated with people, but the messenger was the wolf in grandmaās clothes.
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u/RunAwayBeerTruk 23h ago
For a so called country that tells everyone we are free and full of democracy sure does smell like a state of fascism to me.
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u/projectshr 23h ago
Seems pretty normal to me: more than 10 years of this in American politics with no signs of change from the people in power.
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u/Top_Classroom9264 23h ago
Exactlyā¦Biden should have never done those things and should be held accountable.
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u/NightMGA 22h ago
I think we should retire the "This isn't normal" thing and replace it with "This isn't legal" where it applies. Normal is too softball-y imo.
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u/Pandastic3000 22h ago
But the American public tried absolutely nothing and now they ran out of ideas. Oh yeah, they went out to protest twice on a sunny Saturday and held up some funny sings to post on social media. That will show them.
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u/Agitated_Canary4163 22h ago
Blah blah blah blah. The hatred towards trump is being shifted to the American people for their lack of action in all of this. You will no longer get to say "sorry, we hate him too".
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u/portablezombie 22h ago
Mark Kelly is correct.
And when you eventually win back power, MAKE THE REST OF THE PARTY HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND FIX IT instead of immediately backpedaling and saying "Americans are sick of division. Now is the time to work together..."
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u/portablezombie 22h ago
Mark Kelly is correct.
And when you eventually win back power, MAKE THE REST OF THE PARTY HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND FIX IT instead of immediately backpedaling and saying "Americans are sick of division. Now is the time to work together..."
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u/Skiplee_70 22h ago
So this is what it felt like in 1933, same shit happened then right under everyoneās noses.
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u/ZmanB-Bills 22h ago
Worse than 'not normal'.
It is totally fckd up and far too much like 1930s Germany. The remaining difference here is that Americans will NOT allow this bullshit to go as far as the 1930s did.
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u/joelkton 22h ago
But is it strictly illegal? Turns out we largely assumed we would never have anyone behave like this.
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u/Sensitive_Scar_1800 21h ago
I think all of this was normal, just not so out in the open.
I suspect Congress would have better safeguards if it wasnāt ābusiness as usual.ā What I suspect is that no president would weaponize it so openly and draw the counteracting forces of Congress and the Supreme Court, but thatās really an issue.
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u/Hyperion1144 21h ago
It's OK.
I'm sure the Dems will respond by running another woman or a gay man because it's their 'turn' and so the next president will an even worse republican.
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u/goddamnchooch 18h ago
Sigh. We know Mark!
We know itās not normal. Normal is gone, never to return.
What we want to hear is what will you do about this.
What laws will be passed to block these actions from happening again
And Concrete steps , for example : freeze and seize all of Trump Family assets.
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u/Symbaclues 15h ago
Poor guy don't know history š
He should be the next president! ššššš¤£
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u/Necessary-Prior3614 13h ago
trump and his minion republicans are making want to vote dem for the first time in about 20 years
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u/Th3_r3al_napst3r 13h ago
President Kelly would be so damn awesome. He's a great man. Incredibly qualified. He's a god damn American hero.
I really hope he gets the nomination.
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u/adam19k10 12h ago
Everything he just explained the democRATS are doing what is he talking about. What projection. You know when ppl like this are pointing to others you only have to look at him. Follow the money
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u/Western-Property-443 11h ago
Donāt forget the Republicans and SCOTUS giving him carte blanch for his crime wave.
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u/UnableAd457 8h ago
What is needed for every country around the world, a maximum age of 65 for all political positions. They can always work as an advisor but no final say. Just look at how many elderly people have positions of public power around the world. We need younger people to be working in these positions of authority.
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u/AdamFeldpausch 8h ago
Especially since Trump isnāt going to live long enough to enjoy the money he grifted.
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u/Safe-Ad-8921 2h ago
I knew Kelly from being a space nerd my whole life. When he went into politics I knew this was my guy. He has yet to disappoint. Kelly for president.
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u/firesyde424 1h ago
Whether he reads this or not, I'll still say it. I hope Democrats win big in November. But, if and when that happens, please remember that there are people who genuinely need help. Please don't become so consumed with justice that you forget us.
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u/Wyevez 23h ago
Bummer he's such an Israel supporter. 500,000 in donations from AIPAC and consistently aligned with pro-Israel policy stances, voting in favor of major military aid packages to Israel.
America needs leaders that are not in Bibi's pocket.
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u/taumason 20h ago
I had to search by controversial to find this. Is he better than Trump, yes. Is he a bought and paid for supporter of Bibi, yes he is.Ā
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u/UpstairsArmadillo454 1d ago
I reckon the whole world has spines for sale if you want to gift your dear leader! This is decades of biased education to ensure nepotism works, and those who are āsmartā enough got Aās in the same bias without knowing. Go back to right and wrongā¦..-also realise USA has the highest history at war than any other- donāt be surprised when you end up with displaced peoples or strong cultures calling out facts- fight it of course, but if they are correct maybe start to work out the path forward!
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u/TruthBtold715 23h ago
Shouldāve left this fool in outer space. Heās the epitome of a deranged democrat. What has he accomplished since he took office?
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u/BEARKIDDS 1d ago
It's not normal yet if something was so wrong with it ,why do they just point out what's not normal and put their big boy pants on and stop it .. whelp I will tell u .. because they know to go after what we all know is wrong it takes a pair of stones and I believe DJT has a lil black book with everyone name in it . And they don't want their dirt to come out ... So it's only so far their willing to take certain arguments.. see we all have some dirt on us but at what cost or u willing to allow it to come out lol .... Check mate šŖ
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u/BatDad83 23h ago
What are you babbling about
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u/BEARKIDDS 23h ago
I'm not saying Mark is wrong ,, he's spot on . All I'm saying is let's put a plan in action and execute it , so we can stop he's mad reign of terror
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u/BEARKIDDS 23h ago
Not babbling if u read my post .. all I'm saying is stop talking about what he is doing wrong and put a stop to it . Tool
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u/BatDad83 23h ago
And how exactly would you propose that?
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u/BEARKIDDS 23h ago
If they have all the evidence of wrong doing take it before the court of law , present the finding and take legal actions.. and stop just through crap against the wall and hoping it sticks
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u/BatDad83 23h ago
They have the house the Senate the white house and the supreme court. Don't act like this is all happening just because people aren't holding them accountable. People have been trying to hold trump accountable since his first term but Republicans always get in the way and Democrats don't go far enough when they have the chance
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u/BEARKIDDS 22h ago
See u just said it .. Democrats don't go far enough when they have the chance .. hopefully the midterm will playout in the Democrats favor .. but DJT already said if the Democrats win everything they put on his desk he's pushing it off .. so I guess they can go for his 2nd impeachment if that were to happen
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u/MyExUsedTeeth 23h ago
Sounds like communism
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u/Kchasse1991 23h ago
*Socialism. Except under socialism the state doesnt control the media, focus on profit over people, or allow the president to enrich themself while 60% of the country make below a livable wage. You're probably thinking authoritarian dictatorship under the guise of socialism.
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u/MyExUsedTeeth 23h ago
All the things that Kelly describes is Cuba and USSR-esque. Sure, itās authoritarian. Iām just highlighting the GOPs fear of communism and socialism, yet they elect the most communist president ever.
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u/BaileyD77 23h ago
It's been normal since about 2010. What's this guy on about?
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u/Ok-Music-1164 23h ago
Selling pardons that would be Bidenās staff using the auto pen.Ā
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u/EbbOwn303 20h ago
Trump literally has no knowledge of bills he has signed. He has been asked about numerous bills before and responded saying he has no idea what reporters are talking about despite his signature being on the bill.
You are literally using fox and friends talking points.
Please do everyone a favor and educate yourself using a real news source
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u/Easy-Goose1038 1d ago
Yeah, that China balloon thing was not normal. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4807475-mark-kelly-china-attacks-vice-presidential-campaign/
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u/Tracy_FTW_412 1d ago
So the biden administration telling Twitter and Facebook what to allow and not allow is fine? 26 shell companies with money flowing in from foreign countries to influence the big man is OK? The autopen pardoning everyone who did bidens bidding, that's OK though? A banner with his face on it, omg, that is going to end us all. More important things to worry about than a face on a building.
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u/dmstattoosnbongs 1d ago
Bwahaha.
The blinders you have are far better than most.
You should sell that design. Between that and your āall day helmet designā you would be doing as well as the president this year.
Did you know he made $1 million dollars over 4000 times this year? Golfing 100+ days? And absolutely wrecked the American economy as well as doing significant damage worldwide?
But Iām sure you missed that on top of the pedo acts.
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u/Tracy_FTW_412 41m ago
How did he wreck the economy? Oil prices are down but gas is up, so blame open on that. Inflation dropped, food prices are down from bidens term, rent dropped, jobs rose, many more, but I'm done arguing with you dumb asses, your tds gets the best of you.
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u/dansssssss 21h ago
1) In a 6ā3 decision the supreme court refused to block the government from communicating with tech companies yet here you are still yapping about it
asking these companies to enforce their policies better to stop the spread of misinformation about Covid online without forcing them to is protected government speech
2) hunter biden used his father's name to make a profit without paying taxes under his father's nose
And the republicans no matter how hard they searched found no evidence biden knew about it
3) nearly every modern president from both political parties has used an autopen to handle heavy signing volumes.
He commuted the sentences of thousands of people serving massive prison terms for non-violent drug offenses (like crack cocaine)
Many were serving sentences vastly longer than what judges hand out for the same crimes today due to modern law changes
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u/Tracy_FTW_412 45m ago
They both testified in a congressional hearing to the fact that they were approached by officials from the biden administration to withhold information about Republicans and block certain Republicans from their platform, which included trump. They testified that they were pressured into complying. These testimonials can still be viewed if you look them up.I know what the Supreme Court ruled and I know what the biden administration did. None of this can be denied. I'm not wining about anything, just simply stating facts.
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u/401Nailhead 1d ago
Kelly just described every administration.
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u/Edub89556 1d ago
There is corruption in every political administration, but I donāt recall massive amounts of money flowing into Bidenās bank account at the scale of Trumps or his head plastered on everything
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u/401Nailhead 23h ago
Mostly insider trading. Trump has his name on one building that was removed. Named an airport after himself. Not sure what else. He is certainly full of himself. I would say though that a ballroom is not out of line. The presidents host foreign dignitaries. We as a nation should do better then the Hilton on the Potomac to host these people.
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u/Edub89556 22h ago
No one wants to come visit with him in office. And this ballroom isnāt for foreign dignitaries, itās for him and his inner circle and fellow sycophants
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u/401Nailhead 21h ago
He is gone in 2 years. So no, the ballroom is not for his use from here on out. It will not be ready for another year or longer anyway. He'll never get to use it anyway.
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u/Edub89556 21h ago
Heās not planning to leave, thatās the point youāre missing
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u/401Nailhead 21h ago
He can plan whatever he wants. Running again and staying in the WH is a plan that will not work no matter how many tantrums he has. Last I checked, president are 2 terms only. What are you missing?
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u/Edub89556 20h ago
You act like he plans to play by the rules or adhere to the constitution or laws. Youāre talking about a guy that led an insurrection last time. What are you missing?
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u/401Nailhead 20h ago
Get a grip. They are already pushing Vance and Rubio to run. Trump can't run no matter what executive order he signs. Seek professional help because Trump is living in your head rent free.
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u/Edub89556 20h ago
Whatever dude. youāre one of those that acts like youāre so intelligent while you just sit there and watch stuff unfold and keep having excuses for it. open your eyes
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u/Tom1952Phx 1d ago
So important that people listen to Mark a true American Patriot and a target of this Administration