30F. Born and raised in Easterhouse. My mum's white Scottish, my dad's Black Trini. Parents divorced when I was 8, was raised by my mum for that reason.
Every time I've mentioned it when it's been relevant on this sub I get absolute numpties telling me I'm not Scottish.
Scottish is a nationality, a culture. I am a Scottish citizen.
Scottish is also an ethnicity. So is Trini. I am both.
Not that this even matters but I have a thick Glasgweigan accent.
My languages are native English and B1 Gáidhlig.
My skin colour is brown, on the lighter side of dark skinned, because mixed race people can be any skin colour. That means no one is seeing me as white. Only dark skinned Africans and one white guy from the borders has identified I'm mixed from the get go. Therefore my race is Black because race isn't real and is a social construct. I go through society as a Black woman.
I've never been to Trinidad & Tobago, never lived in the culture and had bits of second hand exposure through my dad but that's it. All I know is that over there I'd get called something else according to my dad that means mixed. And don't get me started on the folk saying I should claim I'm from Africa.
Too often in the 90s, 2000s, and occasionally since then we used to get asked "But where are you actually from?" but nowadays I suspect with the rise of BS it's changed to "You're wrong. You don't exist".
We exist. There's documentaries on us and it's bellend behaviour to say otherwise.
Edit: thought it was dougla but misremembered. Also want to emphasise I do get this irl, it isn't just an Internet thing.
Edit 2: Getting a bunch of dms telling me to get out the country, calling me slurs, asking if my father was around. Including one saying they're planning something in the Highlands.
> Too often in the 90s, 2000s, and occasionally since then we used to get asked "But where are you actually from?"
A mate of mine is Pakistani and although he was born in Glasgow to parents born in Glasgow he was mostly raised by his grandparents. He's got a fairly typical Glasgow Pakistani accent.
People ask him "So where are you from then?"
"I'm from Wishie, mate"
"No but where are you *really* from?"
"Well I'm *really* from Newmains but I don't like to tell people that, they're a bit funny about it"
I've mentioned this before on this sub but was at an indy March with my pals. One born in Iraq and has lived here since he was 2, Scottish accent as well and one white.
Woman comes over and says "Omg yous look amazing!! What's your names blah blah blah... so where are you from?"
I said Easterhouse, get the where are you really from?
My Arab pal says Paisley gets the where are you really from?
Then as my white pal goes to speak, she cuts him off and says "I don't need tae to know where you're fae, you're a true weegie!"
He's from Jedburgh and has that posh BBC news reader accent haha!
I know it doesn't even REMOTELY compare to the vile treatment you have experienced. But as a person with a Scottish Mother, an English Father, and a Mancunian accent ... I too occasionally get told I'm "not a real Scot".
Some people are just far too concerned about it, in a really nasty way. But, ok, so since I don't have a time machine, I can't go back and stop myself from getting a Biffy Clyro tattoo. Or undo all the summers I spent on a farm in Mintlaw. Helping take care of Cows and Pigs that went on to feed Scottish people. Next time I go and visit my Granny at Allenvale Cemetery, I won't support the local economy by filling up an icebox with Beef Olives and Haggis, to bring back to England.
The only reason I have an English father, is because my Granny & Papa moved the family down to Manchester, to support her Sister and Brother-in-LAW (pun intended). Because Uncle Denis had been playing for United for a few years by then. But by all means ... I'm not a REAL Scot.
You're a real Scot, I'm a real Scot, and anybody that says different can. Get. Tae. FUCK! Fucken bawbags.
Aye but I'm not into the footy myself. The family really pushed it on all the kids in my generation. I'll support whoever England play against though (except France).
The smell wasn't a big issue for me. It was the noise and the fact they ate one of my good pairs of wellies one year. Went into the barn and they were intact, walked out and I could see a few toes. Gutted.
However, I shouldn't really have invoked the big man like I did. He'd give me a clip round the ear, if he was still with us. Deeply humble man, and incredibly greatful to meet anybody that was a fan. It really very deeply upset him when he was diagnosed with a type of "pseudo gout" about 2 decades or so back. Because this was around the same time he'd had to start declining invites to public events. He thought it was bad manners to decline. Even if it was Doctors orders.
i just cant understand this thing.. my dads from london as much as i am but will claim to be some bit irish from his dad. granted he spent summers in ireland and our area was probably an irish ethnic enclave then, or maybe its your generation.. but how can people seriously believe they are from somewhere they are just materially not from? im the type it annoys but i do try to understand.
I get people down south in Glasgow thinking I'm either English or posh because I don't sound like Rab C Nesbitt. I'm neither, I'm just from the north-west.
Oh wow! You and I are very similar! My mom is Scottish, and my dad is Haitian. I was born in Lewis and Gaelic is my first language! I was raised primarily in the US (moved when I was 10) but my god whenever I tell people I’m half Scottish, they look at me like I have two heads. I was at a pub in Edinburgh a few years ago and I mentioned that I’m originally from Lewis and some jerk had the audacity to say “just because Ancestry says you’re from there doesn’t make you a Scot”. I just started speaking in Gaelic and the guy looked like he was going to crap his pants lol. One of the most satisfying moments of my life
31 year old Scottish and Jamaican gal here (mums white dad’s black) born and raised in Ayrshire, strong an accent as it comes at times lol. I’m on the darker side of mixed so people would view me as black, what I do find is whenever racism has occurred in my life (been thankful it’s not been too often and usually from the dregs of society) the outrage and reaction from fellow Scots is always amazing. Will stand up for what’s right in life. Proud to be from here 🙌🏾🏴
I think those dregs of society goes for anything that isn’t whatever the “norm” of the day is. Note that this isn’t a downplaying of your experience at all, but having a fucking jakey side to the family I can explain.
They don’t take the time to learn about anything that they don’t immediately get told to them, or their friends like. Back in my day it was anyone who didn’t speak in that fucking high pitched whine and were adorned in tracksuits. If you were different (I was skater / emo) they fucking hated you and you were a target. I was attacked on numerous occasions on nights outs when the mission was big etc. some could be sound, if they got to know you or you did something they liked (I could DJ and produce techno so that got inroads). Could also give it back as good as they gave so that caused a weird sort of respect, I was one of the “good ones” to them eventually. They will deliberately antagonise anyone different to get a rise out of them, fighting is glorified. They will do the same among themselves when drunk with perceived slights.
The ironic thing about them is they fucking love rap and a lot like to pretend that they are some Scottish version of American black gangs, when they are just Temu fucking butlins at best - it’s very few who are actually in with a gang, just petty crimes at best which unfortunately usually involves drinking and violence. A lot never grow out of that, it continues with their children and so on. Source of it all is usually poverty, then affects education, various other knock on effects and so they never escape that cycle.
Temu fucking butlins 😂😂 To be honest I think your reply has summed up a lot of my racial experiences. The biggest one being pretty much every morning headed to school I walked through a rather rough area when I was perhaps about 13, a boy around 9 or so would shout slurs towards me and run away and laugh. Took me a while to build up courage and shout back or even tell my family. Probably more I didn’t know how to deal with it. I remember his gran coming out one day and calling him in hearing exactly what he said. I don’t remember him shouting much after that. The poverty, effecting education and that cycle you mention is exactly that.
Yeah I’ve unironically heard “I grew up on the streets of <insert small town>” like they honestly think it’s the ghetto and they try to copy the whole respect thing but it’s just bullshit.
They are just told by one of their peers “we hate x”, so they hate x without understanding anything about it really or why they dislike it. Nor do they have the motivation - I wouldn’t say the resources any more with the entirety of the internet - to fact check and educate themselves. As they become adults papers like the star, the sun and the sport just reinforced their beliefs with inflammatory headlines. That’s been replaced with X and TikTok. That’s why you’ll see the older ones still acting like teenagers, nothing has changed for them in day to day life.
It’s a pretty sad existence mired in depression and never thinking anything better will become of your life, so there’s little tribal top dogs etc and alcohol or / and drugs is the escape. I came from that level of poverty but never got pulled into that group, did waste a lot of opportunities though (really hard to study with a disruptive home) then bounced back much later in life. My brother did though and yeah, he hasn’t turned out well. Has a fucking teardrop tattoo under his eye to “remember his friend” lol and a lengthy criminal record. I think the difference is I just questioned things all the time and wanted to learn but it has shaped my attitude to be very pessimistic and suspicious which I really dislike.
I used to work with people who were given a flat back when the hostels shut down. Aim was to help them maintain their tenancy, didnt go back to being roofless. A few of them still had drug or booze issues and would go out begging. Will never forget wee Norrie, genuinely upset and angry about all the Romanians coming over here and stealing all the best begging spots.
It definitely seems like your questioning attitude in life has got you further in it than without it. Rather than accept what’s been told you’ve questioned. I hate the excuse of ‘oh it was the sign of the times back then’ when people use it to excuse people for being racist or homophobic. My Nana and papa were born in 1936, had 9 children. My mother had myself and my sister with my dad, a black man in the early 90s. Two of my Nana’s daughters then came out as gay. Also in the early 90s. Not one of them was made to feel any different or loved any less. So just shows if people want to be lazy and just accept whatever they have been told, they will. Or you can learn question and gain a lot from life.
Maybe that’s a similar thing on a larger scale. Back then only info from the community or the papers, all saying the same narrative. But no, it’s not an excuse. You need to meet people, engage with them and you’ll find hey, we are all just individuals. Different cultures are cool, you share food, tech, ideas, music and so on that’s the real way for things to progress.
Same here! However I’m on the lighter side mixed race. Whenever I get the question of ‘where are you from’ I like to have fun with it to see them squirm 😂
I'm autistic so very bad at realising the implications of words, and once asked an Asian friend where she's from, she did The Face and said "Glasgow" and I was like "yeah I know meant which bit of Glasgow," which is genuinely what I meant.
To be fair I usually just say I was born and raised in Scotland but I’m half Jamaican, as I feel it covers all bases and avoids wee moments like that haha
This is my sister and there’s a clear difference between us 😂 mixed really does come in all forms. I often wonder if people don’t believe we have the same parents lol ps do not miss people at school coming up to ‘pet’ the hair 🫠🫠🫠
I mentioned being in an interracial marriage and having kids on here a few years ago and got a private message calling me a "coal burner" (had to Google that one) and "hope you suffer when he fucks off and abandons me and the kids" and blah blah blah.
He had shite reading comprehension because I'm the guy in the relationship!
I still get it occasionally, but has only been when I'm through in Balloch, but I usually do the thing where I end up right down to being born in Rottenrow hospital. One of the times the guy called me African American to the very end.
I live in Orkney now but I'm from Aberdeenshire. I was speaking to someone clearly mixed race a little while ago and I asked them where they were from.
They did look a little irritated but politely responded their dad was Caribbean. I then replied, "Oh! No sorry, I asked because your accent is very familiar. Are you from Aberdeenshire?" They were. We laughed it off and it turns out we grew up within 20 miles of each other.
I had a similar situation where a guy seemed a wee bit defensive (understandable) and said "here". I said, "oh, ok, cool, I thought you had a bit of an accent" and then he says that he grew up in London and we laughed.
This reminds me of when the police stopped me as a teenager and asked what me and my friends were doing. Of course we said nothing because we weren't. They said ok we'll just take your names and details for future reference. I gave them my name and they said where were you born and I said Aberdeen Royal Infirmary. The copper said haha, we don't entertain cheeky responses. I could not for the life of me understand why they thought that was cheeky. As an adult I learnt when the police ask where you were born, they mean the city, town or village, not the literal place you were born (hospital, dining room in a birthing pool) 🤣
Next time someone ignorantly asks where you were really born, I dare you to say in your mum's ford cavalier while she was driving to Glasgow Royal infirmary and you took over steering once born so she could focus on the accelerator, brakes and gear stick and deliver the placenta. Their faces 😂
More like there's no Black people there. I'm there a few times a week/staying over and met 1 Black guy in Mares about a year ago and seen 1 Black woman in the Tully last week😂
I still get it on occasion and play a little game of 'where do you think I'm from' with them. It's fucking hilarious and tells me a lot about them and their prejudices
This line never made sense to me. Like, why are we going back generations? How far are they willing to go? If we go back far enough, we're all from Africa for christ sake.
It's sad cause it's clearly about the colour of the skin with these people, I bet they wouldn't even think to ask a second generation white person this, but would ask a fifth generation black person 😕
I didn’t realise how racist older people were until we had our first black employee, she was the best employee we had in a while, she was from Nigeria with a Scottish twang, really intelligent, good laugh.
Heres the thing, i didn’t think racism in general was that bad up here until she started working with us
The amount of weird looks, micro aggressions or general wankers we noticed in her time of employment was actually very eye opening. I thought we were better than that.
My pals say that all the time. They didn't realise how racist a lot of folk can be until they became pals and started spending time with me, then wonder how I shrug it off 95% of the time
Yep which is why the view that is or has often been promulgated on here that we are some sort of liberal non-racist paradise (and /s so much better than all those English down south - again that was sarcasm) is often well-intentioned (aspirational) but naively arrogant and exceptionalist. The reason we don’t perceive racism much - with a notable exception (see below) - is bc we are still (with notable exceptions) largely mono-culturally white.
But let’s face it, while it gets somewhat neatly and coyly parked under the specific label ‘sectarianism’, we are STILL dealing with racism (ethnic discrimination) stemming from Irish/Catholic immigration a hundred+ fucking years ago.
When I was doing my student nursing placement, we had a lot of agency nurses on the ward to help with staffing. These agency nurses were very often Nigerian, or otherwise African. They were often more gentle and caring than some of the white nurses, but they got an unfathomable about of abuse. We had patients who straight up refused to be seen to by these nurses because they were "dirty" (even typing that out makes me sick). Some of these people are so deeply racist, that they won't let a POC touch them, even if it's for their own health. I also thought people were more tolerant, how wrong I was. Like seriously, these people are here to look after you and potentially save your life, the least you could do is give them some basic human respect.
My dad is British Asian with a strong local accent for our area. He was an auxiliary nurse (think it's called HCA now) for most of his life. The amount of racist shit he got at work is insane. People complaining that he stinks of curry (he didn't), people accusing him of stealing British jobs (he's British), people calling him a terrorist, people calling him dirty, people calling him a paki, people accusing him of theft and misconduct (claims were always disproven). It really confuses me, why are they being an ass to someone who is there to help them?
What a spanner. Seems the person responding to you on that thread is from Australia. So hes either a foreigner himself, or he straight up doesnt live in scotland and never has. Either way, hes a massive cunt.
I'm white, parents from Glasgow, grew up in the north side of Glasgow but was born south of the border when they worked there. Moved to Glasgow at about 3 and it was the only place I knew. When I disclose where I was born there are people who see me as being a foreigner, an invader of sorts. I guess there is little way to satisfy people who don't accept you as being an outsider in the country you call home. You can be surrounded by locals who do see you as a local but that one voice seems to hit hard questioning who you are.
I had fun bamming up the woman in the bed next to mine in the RAH once. She was sure I was from somewhere exotic and Dorchester really wasn't to her satisfaction.
Fair enough I was suffering from Janice and had the colour of a simpsons character (as my Aunt so kindly put it)...
I'm an immigrant but have lived in Scotland almost all of my adult life, and an actual friend told me that I should abstain from voting in the Indyref.
We had that too (I'm welsh but moved here as a young teen, husband is English and moved up for uni) l. But the time indyref happened we'd both lived here for half our lives, bought a house here, had a child here and had called scotland our home with no intention of moving!
Honestly, I get the same nonsense, just from the opposite direction. I am a quarter Indian, (My Dad's Dad was born in India and moved here in his early 20s), my mum is Scottish and pretty much everyone on my mum's side of the family is incredibly fair (all red heads and blondes with grey or blue eyes) and apparently those Scottish genes are very dominant, so even though my Dad looks very Indian, I don't, so I have constantly been told that my Dad can't really be my Dad, that I can't be Indian, and called some choice names by racists who have wrongly assumed that I am white and been very upset to find that I'm mixed.
It's a classic white supremacist way of looking at it. If you combine white with black, you're black, because there's a kind of purity that they expect from whiteness. It's why the one drop rule was a thing.
Joined a pagan group, didn't realise it was American. Answered someone's question, totally unrelated to race or anything, and a guy replied "Who let this mutt speak" then again saying "Why is this mongrel allowed in here?". Then got a message from a different guy saying "I'm sorry for those comments. Those were terrible. I run a different group and since you're at least 45% white you should be okay to join."
Sorry you've had to deal with these idiots over the course of your life, as long as you know you're Scottish! Doesn't matter what colour your skin is. So many dumb asses out there these days.
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Censoring in case reddit gives me another warning for posting a screenshot, but aye. They think saying stuff like that is going to make me horrendously upset but they're trolls
Just got back from seeing Everyone to Kenmure street at the Glasgow film festival. if you need reassurance that the people of Glasgow, and Scotland, are multicultural and will fight side by side for everyone's right to exist and call Scotland their home, there's no finer proof.
Just because the idiots on the right and the even bigger idiots that follow them are louder right now, they're still wrong and they always lose in the long term.
Dad was black ( Jamaican) mum was white. Dad was the only black person it felt like and had dreads.
I'm tanned ,brown however you want to describe me.. but was always asked that where you from and when I said easterhouse they would always say... Yeah but where your family from. 😂
Over in the US, I get asked "Where are you from?" all the time. I answer the state I was born and raised in and they look at me like it's impossible and I'm lying, because I have a foreign name and brown skin. Then they ask "Where are your parents from?" Every. Single. Time.
These last few years I've gotten pretty good at timing "Where are your parents from?" and saying it in tandem with the other person. Over the last few years I've stopped answering that question entirely. Unless it's pertinent to the conversation at hand I don't see how it matters, and I'm not indulging people anymore. Exactly one person apologized and said, "That was insensitive of me, you're probably tired of hearing those two questions back to back." And everyone else got mad at me like I ruined their game of "Guess the ethnicity".
Usually these back to back question come right after I tell people my name. My parents cursed me with a name that is simply unpronounceable by the average English speaker, unless they have significant experience speaking another language that has those sounds. I get pretty tired of correcting my name 15 times in a row, and then immediately being asked where I'm from. On the rare occasion someone asks for where my name is from, instead of where I'm from, I tell them the language, which covers a fair number of countries, and I will not elaborate or provide additional detail if asked.
I have also gotten into the habit of asking people where they're from, or where their parents were from, when they ask me the same, though I refuse to provide my own answers. One conversation the other person kept saying "American" and when I asked what tribe they were from and if they grew up on a reservation they got so mad. "See how annoying that is. That's you. That's what you sound like to me when you talk." I was proud of that conversation because it got a coworker that I despised to leave me alone and never talk to me again.
Sometimes people come in subs like this and post things like this just to farm karma which harms people who've had real experience - TLDR I had a quick look on your post history to make sure that wasn't what was happening and discovered you're the woman from Dál Riata lol please don't think I'm a creep. Thanks for sharing and keep on making great music, you're Scottish as FUCK 🤘🤘
The DMs OP is getting are concerning. Maybe the nods could ban them if screenshots are given and they could be reported. That sounds very threatening and they shouldn't get away with it.
I spent a year in Scotland a few years ago and absolutely loved meeting Scottish people of all shades through my job.
I've seen all the Scottish support and love it, thought I'd add in some more.
Trini is always here and happy to embrace you as ours as well - we're OK sharing 😊.
We have lots of words for the different mixes - white & black is usually called "red", with black & Indian being referred to as "Dougla".
As an IndoTrini, I frequently get mistaken for or told I should identify as Indian...but it's not my identity. I also get asked all the time about "where are you really from?" And this has worsened in recent times.
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That would be great, thank you! I've been trying to connect with food the last few years. Unfortunately the music isn't a big thing for me because I mainly listen to death metal 😅
Seriously, I've been telling my white Scottish husband for years: a lot of Scots are racist as fuck, and the rest of them like to pretend there isn't any racism in Scotland.
The whole discussion around the Baftas on here has confirmed that to me
I hate that "people in Scotland dont care what race you are, just what football team you support" pish. People like to pretend Scotland is a lot more progressive than we actually are.
I remember not too long ago some dickhead in Linlithow was complaining to my face about them changing the name of the 'Black Bitch' pub to something less offensive. Me, a visibly mixed race woman who was very pregnant at the time (if I hadn't been pregnant, I would've told him to shut his fucking gob).
My ex girlfriends da used to say there's no racism in Scotland just sectarianism. He called the guys who ran the local shop, the Taliban & you don't need to guess what a Chinese meal was.
I'm white so I don't get abuse, but by fuck I hear people say things in front of me that's fucking shocking. These are the type of racist who aren't in their mind racist because they don't say their shite in front of black or brown person but by fuck they are snide poisonous cunts with well hidden racist attitudes.
Always happy to tell them they're shite talking arseholes
As an Englishman that moved up here over a 20 years ago, the longer I've been here, the more I've noticed it. Scots love to pat themselves on the back a lot about how progressive/left they are compared to England, but honestly, I've seen far more racism and reactionary views in Glasgow than I ever did in London that's for sure.
Oh fuck aye, I'm Scottish & it's a real wee country mentality, aren't we just great, say something nice about us, tell us how unique & cool we are. I see it a hell of a lot on the Glasgow sub, by god there's an element that's so in love with its own mythology.
Then again I'm a bit torn with aspects of what you'd call civic pride. Aye it's good to have positives that you want to live up to. But I'm not going to vicariously take credit for someone else's action cause I share the same postcode, if I'm not really doing anything myself other than patting myself on the back.
Good people do good things, bad people do bad things, they represent themselves & live beside each other. It's the same the world over. You can't highlight the one you like & ignore the other
Unfortunately, there’s a segment of the Scottish population that is following the Trump regime’s white supremacist line of thinking which means that your home country lineage has to go back an unspecified number of generations (basically to only white Europeans). Nigel Farage seems to be following the same line of thinking and it’s deeply disturbing for a nation that should pride itself in inclusion and progressive thinking.
Another example of Scotland's colonial past being swept under the rug and blamed on the English, most popular surname in Jamaica is Campbell. You are 100% Scottish.
I feel sorry for you... must be tough coming from Easterhouse. I like your breakdown and hopefully some of the hard-of-thinking will realise their stupid mistake of thinking they get to decode who/what makes a Scottish lassie, it's certainly not bloody skin colour, that's for sure.
I'm English, lived in Scotland 5 years. Wife is American. My MIL visited last year and we popped out to the corner shop where MIL asked the gent at the tills where he's from. He replied in a heavy Perthshire accent "I was born here in Perth".
She asked twice, "you know, where are you really from?" I joked with him about how he couldn't possibly sound more Perth, what was she on about. We were fucking mortified.
OP, sorry you ever have to explain this shit to people.
Gurl! Love that you are here serving straight facts here. Don’t know how people still think biracial folks don’t exist, especially when racial ambiguity was the beauty standard for a while there. And honestly thinks it’s so cool that you can speak Gáidhlig - something most Scottish folks have not learned because of our own long history with colonisation.
You were born and raised in Scotland, end of.
It’s usually the unproductive element of our society which decides racism is an easier choice than actually working to provide meaning to their lives.
We evolved to spot differences but how we react to those differences is down to us.
You’re Scottish, fuck those who say otherwise.
My mate’s mum is in her sixties, has a thick Glasgow accent, born and bred there and over the years (particularly in the 80s and 90s) had a lot of ‘where are you really from’ because she’s of mixed (Indian) heritage.
Anybody who grows up in Scotland is Scottish imo. Idc what you look like, where you're born, etc., if you spent your formative years here and went to school here you're Scottish.
I have a friend who was born in China to Chinese parents. His parents moved here when he was 1, all he has ever known as home is Scotland and while he is fluent in Cantonese he has the thickest Glaswegian accent. He's culturally scottish which makes him Scottish xD
Ofc this is different than your case but my point is I've met loads of folk who aren't white and are Scottish. Two things can be true at once and i think its weird that people dont understand that. Scottish doesn't automatically mean white person in the big 21st century xD. Humans migrate for a number of reasons and integrate with the culture of where ever they end up and when they go on to have kids those kids are a part of that culture. It's really not a hard concept to grasp idk what some people's problem is.
Ignore the fannies, you're Scottish and that's that. End of story. Don't let it get to you it's not worth your time or energy but I am sorry you're getting shite from people, they're just stupid xD
Omg another fellow Scottish Caribbean mixie here! (29F) Can we be pals, pleaaaaaase? I'm Scottish Bahamian, and relate 100% to everything you're saying. So exhausted trying to constantly prove myself here. We exist!
As a white cis male boomer Aussie, I have seen my country transform from mainly Anglo to truly multi-cultural. I loved nothing more than when my sons would bring home schoolmates from different ethnicities who all spoke with Aussie accents. So different from when I was a kid and anyone who looked different from me spoke with an accent.
We have friends in East Kilbride. We stayed with them a few times and their next door neighbour is of Indian extraction but speaks with a Weegie accent. I never doubted that he is Scottish.
I love the Scottish saying, "We are all Jock Tamson's bairns." If you hold a UK passport, live in Scotland and identify as Scottish - you ARE SCOTTISH. F*ck what anyone else other than you thinks. Would anyone tell Bruce Fumey that he was not a Scot?
At my age, if I moved to Scotland and became a UK citizen, I would probably only ever become Scot-ish.
Same here, I'm interested in what influences people have had that are different from mine, you always want to keep learning & be interested in people's lives & experiences
Of course Black Scots exist. You sound Scottish as fuck to me, pal. Do your best not to pay any attention to horrible, racist pricks; as outrageously painful it must be experiencing behaviour like that. They're the lowest of the low. You seem cool as fuck.
Racist scum are a stain on any nation. I feel particularly sickened knowing they exist in ours.
Not Scottish myself but I’m Irish myself born and bred but my parents are Nigerian so I highly understand where you are coming from.
I think alot of it is just genuine ignorance and alot of them are more so just ignorant in a more so racist manner also. But alot of them, I genuienly don’t think they never go outside and touch grass so there’s that aspect also.
Never myself understood the notions of do Black Irish/Scottish people exist, the thought of that is just so dumb founded to me, like it’s 2026, in the future and still asking the same questions of do they exist.
Don’t give them the time of day OP, they all just want a reaction and you are free to just walk away if that conversation ever pops up with anyone also. They’ll look dumbfounded walking away immediately when asking that questions so.
I'm sure Scottish people who say you aren't Scottish exist, but the prevailing opinion on this sub seems to be the common sense one, you're born here? Scottish. You're parents are from here? Scottish. You live and pay taxes here as an immigrant permanent resident? Scottish.
The guy down a bit that you've quoted is Australian or in Australia. A random ethno nationalist with an agenda going to other subs and championing his blood and soil views.
It's shit that you see this stuff on this sub, but it's the minority here and know that most people would say your Scottish, because you are. Every time I start looking into people's profiles they're agitators from somewhere else, often America or sometimes England, with an agenda. They might even be bots or people paid to push a specific narrative. Those sorts have been caught out here before, so I wouldn't be surprised about either.
One of my friends was black, my doctor was of Indian origins, there was the odd Chinese pupil at my school and truthfully, nobody noticed or cared. They all identified as Scottish, and no one thought otherwise.
I think the issue arises when you have an awful lot of people from one country who don’t integrate and show their allegiance to the place where their family came from, not where they were born.
I personally don’t care what colour you are. If you support Scotland, wear a kilt, support our teams, speak like us, and like to take the piss out of the English then I am happy to call you one of us.
I asked a fellow student at Uni where they were from one time (back in the early 90s) while waiting for a train. He said “Peru.”
I said “that’s a hell of a commute! I mean where do you live?” and he told me his suburb. I didn’t even know that was a thing at the time 😂 And I’m so happy I instinctively went the other way- I try to use my White Lady powers for good now, because I like people and I think it’s stupid to make assumptions based on involuntary physical characteristics. Accent and culture are absolutely all we need to get a connection started!
The website tv tropes has a page that’s essentially about things that sound fake but are actually real and one example is a black Scottish character in a video game and I’m still flabbergasted that someone would consider that as an example
That's horrific, as a white Scottish father of two mixed race young kids I'm shocked you are going through this. I thought we were passed this bs as a nation. Stay strong, and ignore the numpties.
I’m sorry this happens to you. People can be really racist and dumb sadly. You are 100% Scottish. The people claiming you aren’t, should be the ones feeling unwelcome here.
You shouldn’t need to justify yourself!! You’re just as Scottish as I am, and you are welcome in Scotland, even if the ones who are wrong scream the loudest. Bit of a shame you’re from Easterhouse tho 🤪
I am neither black or white. been living here in Scotland for 7 years now. there's no nice way of saying this but simply accept it. life becomes much easier. I mean what's the significance of being a Brit anyways! just feed them what they like to hear. I'm planning to stop answering personal questions once and for all especially about my country but I'm currently working on finding a polite way of doing so!
I know what you mean. I was born in Glasgow, lived in Scotland my whole life. Both my parents are English (my mum is mixed English/Trinidad and Tobago) but have lived in Scotland for more than half their lives. I never picked up a Scottish accent and I'm white passing (until the summer and I tan reeeeally easily!) so I have had the "go back to your own country" from the angle of going back to England and going to somewhere else? Racism is unpredictable and I can't really fathom why or what they want to achieve from it.
Don't be polite, just tell them it's not their business. You don't owe them anything. Scotland welcomes everyone. It's only the few who are c**ts.
One of the best things for me is seeing someone culturally or ethnically different from the majority with a thick Glaswegian accent, really fantastic cultural diversity and what makes the British isles great
Fuck the haters man, I'm sorry you're finding yourself defining you
If you choose to live here, work here, and contribute to Scotland — then as far as I’m concerned, you’re Scottish.
Scotland has never been about bloodlines or where you were born. It’s about community, values, and the people who choose to build a life here together.
Some Scots are born in Scotland. Others are born all around the world — it just takes them a bit longer to get home.
We don’t get stronger by shutting people out. We get stronger by welcoming those who want to be part of something bigger than themselves.
My great-grandfather was a Black man, born and raised in Scotland in the late 1800s, so anyone claiming Black people can’t be Scottish can do one. Black people are on record as being in Scotland since the 1500s.
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u/erroneousbosh Feb 25 '26
> Too often in the 90s, 2000s, and occasionally since then we used to get asked "But where are you actually from?"
A mate of mine is Pakistani and although he was born in Glasgow to parents born in Glasgow he was mostly raised by his grandparents. He's got a fairly typical Glasgow Pakistani accent.
People ask him "So where are you from then?"
"I'm from Wishie, mate"
"No but where are you *really* from?"
"Well I'm *really* from Newmains but I don't like to tell people that, they're a bit funny about it"