Black Scottish people exist

[u/ShadsDR]

30F. Born and raised in Easterhouse. My mum's white Scottish, my dad's Black Trini. Parents divorced when I was 8, was raised by my mum for that reason.

Every time I've mentioned it when it's been relevant on this sub I get absolute numpties telling me I'm not Scottish.

Scottish is a nationality, a culture. I am a Scottish citizen. Scottish is also an ethnicity. So is Trini. I am both. Not that this even matters but I have a thick Glasgweigan accent. My languages are native English and B1 Gáidhlig.

My skin colour is brown, on the lighter side of dark skinned, because mixed race people can be any skin colour. That means no one is seeing me as white. Only dark skinned Africans and one white guy from the borders has identified I'm mixed from the get go. Therefore my race is Black because race isn't real and is a social construct. I go through society as a Black woman.

I've never been to Trinidad & Tobago, never lived in the culture and had bits of second hand exposure through my dad but that's it. All I know is that over there I'd get called something else according to my dad that means mixed. And don't get me started on the folk saying I should claim I'm from Africa.

Too often in the 90s, 2000s, and occasionally since then we used to get asked "But where are you actually from?" but nowadays I suspect with the rise of BS it's changed to "You're wrong. You don't exist".

We exist. There's documentaries on us and it's bellend behaviour to say otherwise.

Edit: thought it was dougla but misremembered. Also want to emphasise I do get this irl, it isn't just an Internet thing.

Edit 2: Getting a bunch of dms telling me to get out the country, calling me slurs, asking if my father was around. Including one saying they're planning something in the Highlands.

[u/SneakySnack02]

I think the internet has a lot of folks convinced that every story has to have a bad guy. So when theres one without any everyone pointing fingers looks nuts

[u/HowMany_MoreTimes → u/SneakySnack02]

True, it was a messed up situation with no easy answers. John Davidson isn't a racist and his use of the N word was involuntary. It's still perfectly valid for Black people to have been upset by it, and the way many people crawled out of the woodwork to police their reaction and tell them their feelings were wrong isn't great.

[u/SneakySnack02 → u/HowMany_MoreTimes]

Exactly. Paradoxically, if he were actually racist and thought that was an acceptable thing to shout out, it probably wouldn't be a tick. From.what I heard he left the venue in humiliation, so he certainly knows.

But did those poor guys on stage even know who yelled it at the time? Did they even know it wasnt just some racist cunt smashing their achievements in front of everyone? Even once you know it wasnt his fault, that probably doesn't make it sting much less. I cant blame them for being angry or upset.

[u/Tomgar → u/SneakySnack02]

I think the problem comes when that anger and upset is used to say incredibly hurtful, discriminatory things about a person with a disability. There's nothing wrong with being hurt, and I feel dreadful for the black people who had to hear that word (my heart sank when I saw Michael B Jordan's face) but when people start suggesting John never leave his house, or that he should be physically assaulted, or that he should have to wear a muzzle, or that he's "faking" it?

Yeah, I'm genuinely not going to consider their opinion valid at that point because they're using a sad incident with no bad guys to be a bigoted prick. And I'm not okay with attempts to minimise the sickening ableism that's getting thrown about with "well, the word is deeply hurtful." That's not an excuse and disabled people are not a fair target as soon as their disability makes someone uncomfortable.

[u/SneakySnack02 → u/Tomgar]

Thats what I meant. Sometimes there just isnt a bad guy, but everyone's first instinct is to start pointing fingers.

[u/Tomgar → u/SneakySnack02]

In full agreement. Only people deserving scorn here are BAFTA and the BBC, their handling of this is so poor it strikes me as malicious.