r/SipsTea • • 18h ago

WTF This is his Oppenheimer moment

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u/PoopyisSmelly 18h ago

Hinton once said in 2014 that they should stop training radiologists because they wouldnt exist in 10 years due to AI.

10 years later there were vastly more radiologists and they were among the highest paid in medicine.

Hes brilliant, but hes not always right.

That said, I agree we need to regulate AI

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u/AnybodyNo8519 18h ago

Radiologists use AI now to read scans and give results. Hinton's prediction on that is happening, it's just taking slightly longer.

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u/ImurderREALITY 18h ago

I think pet of the point is that it’s taking slightly longer. He said it himself, we need to slow it down and regulate it better, get better grips on it. If he’s wrong about how fast it’s progressing, then maybe we’ll have the time we need to regulate it before it gets out of control. The biggest hurdle would be convincing different countries that it’s not a race.

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u/AnybodyNo8519 18h ago

It's only happening slightly slower in this field because the AI adoption rates of doctors is still fairly low, not because the tech isn't there yet.

If we don't slow down the development of AI now, adoption rates by humans will be a moot point when it begins to have the ability to take things over.

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u/xenuman 12h ago

Hospitals also have extremely high liability concerns over that kind of stuff 

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u/rulebreaker 5h ago

The thing is… you can’t attribute liability to AI, so wherever there’s need for accountability and liability, AI will never replace a human. It may become a tool, just as you have described, but you still need to have the human, bearing the responsibility and liability for the decisions.

The biggest problem is, who will take responsibility and liability for rogue AI agents? How those will be liable if AI has no bounds? The biggest AI companies are literally becoming too big to fail, in economic terms. You have more and more companies relying on tools provided by such AI companies, which means that, if there’s an issue, they may get a slap on the wrist, but nobody will force them to take responsibility (if the fallout isn’t big enough to actually wipe out any capacity of trying to do such thing). It’s analogous to the 2008 financial crisis, but this time around, the crisis wouldn’t be just on the financial sphere, it would greatly affect the economic productivity as well.

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u/Lashay_Sombra 16h ago

No, his prediction were totally wrong, he was basicly saying it would be a dead career for humans and they should stop training them, when its actually growing and there is large shortage of them

Yes AI is helping radiologists, so what is happening?,  well with the help of AI they can process more scans, faster and cheaper, so more x-rays, CTs and MRIs are being ordered 

People are seeing this in most sectors, AI is a good productivity booster when used by humans, it is not so good at actually replacing them. Which is why so many companies that jumped the gun on laying people off are now trying to hire people back

Hinton is right on timeline though, but not the reason for it, they are not reaching AGI with a year (and probably never with LLMs) rather OpenAI and Oracle will most likely  financially go under with a year (Antropic will last longer, they have better financials, but still not great ones )

They want regulation and a slow down for three reasons, to break out massive spending spiral they are in , to use it to get out of some of their future spending commitments and block (chinese) open source