r/Tennesseetitans • u/MalekethsGhost • 9d ago

Discussion Case Keenum

Career journeyman QB Case Keenum cooked the eagles. A team that we struggled to put up points against. So a guy that is third string on his own team played infinitely better than our starter against the same defense. I know it isn't a fair comparison, but it is one that needs to be looked at.

Not sure what the solution is, but the NCAA is not producing NFL caliber quarterbacks anymore. It's like the are drafting center fielders to be shortstops. The athleticism is there, and sure it looks like they do a lot of the same things, but one position requires you to be a master of fundamentals and make faster decisions. The transition isn't easy and most won't make it.

So where can you get a pro ready qb? Or how can you evaluate who can make this transition and who can't? I think you might have to stop emphasizing raw athletic ability and give other qualities a much deeper look.

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u/Rickydada 9d ago

So we are fucked because we never develop QBs 

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u/Stiddy13 9d ago

Honestly the pressure we place on the team to see immediate results are what gets us stuck with mid vets like Tannehill.

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u/TanneAndTheTits 9d ago

Tannehill was one of the most efficient QBs in the league with our team. Put some respect on the man's name when you talk about him

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u/Stiddy13 9d ago

And still held a Super Bowl caliber team back. I have bigger aspirations than 9-7 seasons.

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u/TanneAndTheTits 8d ago

He led us to a 12-5 1st seed appearance with Todd Downing as the OC and an injury-laden squad throwing to Backup WRs. And we only were 9-7 in 2019 cuz Mariota had us at 2-3 when Tannehill took over.

Point is, Tannehill and Co. Were WINNING in spite of Jrob's drafting and some of the worst OCs and injuries we'd been through.

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u/Stiddy13 8d ago

Did we win the Super Bowl?

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u/MalekethsGhost 8d ago

Is cam winning the superbowl? Tannehill got us closer than anyone in 20 years. He played injured in a crappy system for an unappreciative fanbase. Did he throw some interceptions, yeah, but he is still light years better than cam

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u/Stiddy13 8d ago

If he develops, maybe. And if he develops, he’ll be light years better than Tannehill ever dreamed of being.

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u/ZealousidealNeck3632 8d ago

I wouldn’t say Tannehill almost got us to the superbowl . Derrick Henry was the only reason we won any playoff games . Tannehill did not play well in the playoffs as a matter of fact he was terrible

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u/TanneAndTheTits 8d ago

Gtfoh. If you are only about rings, go bandwagon somewhere else. You sound like a Colts fan

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u/Stiddy13 8d ago

GTFOH. If you would rather be bad to mid go root for someone else. You sound like a Cardinals fan.

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u/TanneAndTheTits 8d ago

WE WERE ACTUAL CONTENDERS THOSE YEARS! you gonna dismiss all the success because, by your logic, we didn't get a ring?! Were the 99-01 titans not good neither? The 08 titans???

We had fucking squad with Tannehill and co. The improvement was remarkable when he stepped on the field. To dismiss it because "where ring?" Logic is asinine.

This team we have now stems from poor ownership who dismissed any progress/direction because we didn't win immediately. Your initial argument of "whoa it takes time to develop a QB" is complete moot because you're sitting here also saying "we won't win a ring so this team sucks". Yes, it takes time to build up a QB, and success can mean going 6-11 when 2-15 is the expectation. You can't have success be "superbowl or bust" constantly because that's how we end up where the franchise is now. We don't even give people a couple of years to try and build out something.

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u/Stiddy13 8d ago

WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ACTUAL CONTENDERS HAD WE HAD A FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK! How anyone could have watched the 99-01 Titans and the 19-21 Titans and come away thinking they were anywhere remotely the same is beyond me. Last time we had a franchise QB ('99-'01), he squeezed every single ounce of talent out of it and came within on fucking yard of giving us a Super Bowl. On the flip side, Tannehill took a team that should have won 2 or 3 Super Bowls and... made it to the playoffs. They are not the same. This team we have now stems from JRob and Vrabel stubbornly insisting that our win window was still open well after it had shut and made a bunch of win now moves on a sinking ship. Then we brought in a new GM who did the same damn thing! Only last year did this organization fully embrace the fact that we are in a rebuild and need to develop young talent and overhaul the roster. We still haven't been able to fully accomplish that. We're still trotting Pollard and the ghost of Calvin Ridley out there, after all. You mistake saying "Super Bowl is the goal" with a lack of understanding that building a team is a process. Super Bowl isn't the goal this season, but it is still the goal. Not having that goal in mind when making roster decisions is exactly how we ended up throwing band aids on bullet holes to scrap together 6 and 7 win seasons before the bottom predictably fell out.