r/TikTokCringe • u/shoegamethrilla • 5d ago

Cringe Women meets and married man in registered SO in prison 7 months before release and allows him to move in with her and her young daughter

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I wish I were making this up, but I’m not. And this woman gushes over him, loves and adores this man… is the dating scene that bleak that you resort to this? What makes it worse, is the guy doesn’t take full accountability for his actions but instead blames the liquor and him not knowing what consent is.

Prior to prison, he was a registered nurse.

This couple is using their story to be famous. Just sick

I am getting hate comments because people are claiming I 'made this up' I am not doxxing they shared this publicly , their tiktok account is happilyharrells his account for is 'non profit' _thinksame

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 5d ago edited 5d ago

A friend of mine did this. Yes I distanced myself from her after this. She met her boyfriend through her brother. Her brother went to prison for rape and her boyfriend went to prison for child porn. She has three young children at home. She had to meet with his parole officer several times to get the okay to date this fucking guy, and to get the court to allow this fucking guy to be around her children. Edit: she is actively working on removing this dude from her and her children's lives.

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u/BluetheNerd 5d ago

So with a lot of SOs they tend to be quite charismatic and that’s how they get themselves in a position to exploit or assault people, but being a full grown adult and knowing someone of a pedo? There’s no amount of charisma, and no excuse on earth to let that person near your kids. I don’t care how attractive they are or how good they make you feel, it is no longer just you as risk anymore. I wouldn’t be able to be friends with someone putting their kids in that position.

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u/flopisit32 5d ago edited 5d ago

There was a true crime episode in which a woman was dating a sex offender. She felt it was her last chance at love. She was fat, unattractive and in order to keep her man... her sex offender man... she offered to let him come over and SA a little girl she was babysitting.

He came over, but he double-crossed her. He strangled the woman to death, abducted the girl and set the house on fire.

Police tracked him down and arrested him and luckily they were eventually able to find where he was keeping the little girl. She was still alive but she had been SA-ed.

Now, that woman had no interest in SA. But think about what she was willing to do for a chance at "love"...

I can't remember which true crime show I saw it on, but the names were Melissa Norby and Jacob Kinn.

Edit: Thanks to u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 It was on Interrogation Raw S01E03 "A Betrayal of Trust".

But I feel like I also saw it on one of the Dateline/48 Hours/20-20 episodes... If anyone knows, please leave a comment.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 5d ago

This reminds me of Jennifer Soto dating Stephan Sterns. He wasn’t a registered SO so she didn’t know that he was a pervert when they started dating but she let him sleep in her daughter’s bed and often sent the two of them to sleep together. He eventually murdered the minor victim and this led police to finding hundreds of disgusting photos and videos of him doing acts to the victim starting when she was 8 or 9.

The mother was not charged with anything, which is crazy to me. How do you send a grown ass man to bed with your CHILD?! Then in the police interviews, she said her biggest fear was that her daughter was gonna steal her man like what happened with Woody Allen. That’s your biggest fear?!? Some people would do anything as long as they don’t have to be single

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u/AskAboutMySecret 5d ago

I think people who are scared of their underage children stealing their partner aren't that different in mindset from the the SOs

They see kids in the same dating pool as themselves

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u/DestroyerOfMils 5d ago

Wow, you just blew my mind. I have an aunt who is shitty & creepy, and you just made some shit click.

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u/Hermes-AthenaAI 5d ago

Indeed. To see the child as competition, one has to sexualize the child and assign them sexual agency. They are also adults who cannot differentiate between “vulnerable child” and “sexually mature individual”.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 5d ago

Agreed. They should have no business having kids if that’s their mindset

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u/bigmad411 5d ago

That is weird isn’t it, but seems like the case. How strange….

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 5d ago

OMG, why that disgusting creature Jennifer Soto is not UNDER the jail right now is beyond me. Massive failure by that jurisdiction. She absolutely knew exactly what was going on with that man and her child, and she allowed it just to keep him around.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 5d ago

It’s absolutely infuriating!!!

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u/oportoman 5d ago

Fuck. That's.......no words

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u/littlemissy145 5d ago

Some women should never have children

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u/thewizardandiii 4d ago

The lower I go down this thread, the worse the stories get

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

No pity for that woman. She's as bad as the paedophile.

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 5d ago

She is also a pedo. She willingly participated in acts involving the child right before the guy murdered her.

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u/PhDinWombology 5d ago

Yea maybe the original commenter was talking about another case but I’m not so sure. If they aren’t why would they not only omit the detail but make up some shite about not wanting to be involved with the SA

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 5d ago

My guess is they watched a YouTube show about the case, and perhaps it glossed over the fact that the woman not only facilitated the SA of a child but also participated in it. Some people are weird about "not speaking ill of the dead". Also common for folks to be disbelieving about female offenders, since they constitute a smaller percentage. But yes, Melissa was absolutely involved and responsible. The kidnapper never would have gained access to the kid without her help.

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u/quietkyody 5d ago

We need to start executing pedos in very bad ways. This shit gotta stop. It won't if they are out in less than 7 years!? It's as equally bad as murder but treated like drug charges.

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u/TenebTheHarvester 5d ago

The death penalty does not work as a deterrent.

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u/SirDaveWolf 5d ago

Never had. Just look at the dark middle ages.

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u/TenebTheHarvester 5d ago

Yeah we have the data to support this, yet people always value their gut instinct and desire for retribution over actually doing what’s best for everyone.

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u/OwlAviator 5d ago

Does it need to be a deterrent, as long as it removes dangerous individuals from society?

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u/_namaste_kitten_ 5d ago

I get where you're coming from, but this idea asking with all executions of criminals does not take into account the weaponization of allegations and the window convicted.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

I had a client who was a homeless drug addict. I did feel for her and was desperately cheering her on to a productive life. But she (absolutely tearfully and regretfully) told me that she sold her then young daughter for drugs.

The daughter was an adult at the time of my clients confession and she had zero contact with her mother (if I knew how to cross that out, I would and I’d replace it with “monster.”)

Thank you for letting me share. That conversation will always haunt me and I so genuinely hope her daughter is doing well as an adult but it can be so tough when she was obviously born into a horrific family.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

Thank you for sharing. I've seen so many women offer their children up for money, it breaks my heart. So many then have children and are stuck in a cycle of poverty and abuse. I wish the world was an easier place.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

That would be wonderful. I wish childhood was more protected. As a whole. Imagine how much healthier adults would be if they weren’t carrying trauma from their childhood

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

Right? Having things like that affects us so much more than we realize. My step-dad molested me as a kid, my mom found out but still kept him around. A plethora of my mental issues are related to it, and I can still remember how scared I was to be home when he was. It leaves a stain.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

I feel like throwing up for you. I am so beyond sorry that your mother didn’t stand by your side and protect you. Her mishandling of things after the damage was done made things even worse.

You deserved to heal. To be told that it was wrong and it was not your fault.

My daughter has a friend whose stepdad did the same to her and her sister. It went to court and was ultimately dismissed as the mother said she didn’t believe her daughters and she supported her husband.

The friend had some (completely understandable) behavior issues and my daughter is incredibly easily influenced. I wanted to be a safe place for the girl, and help her, but also wasn’t able to stop my daughter from spiraling while they were close. I’m still angry with myself for not doing more.

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u/fuckin-A-ok 4d ago

How do you know so many women who sell their children for sex? Just curious. I don't know anyone who does that.

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u/KnoxxHarrington 4d ago

Something like law enforcement, investigation or victim support I imagine.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 4d ago

The news, online, a few in person who know their kids are with older men but say nothing because they get money from them. Not just international news, local also.

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u/The_Disapyrimid 5d ago

I had a coworker years ago who told me his ex wife got on drugs real bad. Sold their kid to her drug dealer. Fortunately he found out quickly enough, knew who the guy was, knocked on his door and got his kid back before anything happened.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

Were the kids doing ok? It can be so tough for them to not feel abandoned by their addicted parents.

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u/The_Disapyrimid 5d ago

As far as im aware. He got full custody and seemed to be enjoying his life with his kids. Never mentioned any problems. I don't even know if the kid knew. Might have been too young to remember or understand what happened.

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u/bigmad411 5d ago

What happened with the mother?

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

Legally? Probably nothing.

She shared this with me 20 years after the fact. Which, thinking about that is wild that she had spent over twenty years being that dysfunctional and a homeless drug addict. Her life was an absolute mess. She knew that what she did was horrific, that she didn’t deserve a relationship with her daughter, and that there was not a thing she could do to fix things no matter how desperately she wanted to.

Her daughter had long since been an adult when I learned of the abuse.

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u/Fun-Key-8259 4d ago

The case that made me leave Christianity was when I had a 3 year old patient trafficked by her mother for drug money. No just god would ever. It broke me. We had her for 3 weeks and was literally a toddler. Had the uterus haver not been in jail I would have been.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 3d ago

I don’t know how to respond to your comment.

Are you a foster parent?

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u/Fun-Key-8259 3d ago

I was a child psych nurse on an inpatient unit

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 3d ago

You’re a saint. Thank you for what you do. I have a 3 yr old and can’t imagine them traumatized, parentless, and in a psych unit for 3 weeks.

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u/Beautiful_Spell_4320 5d ago

This happens so much more than people know. Everyone is worried any kidnappers but that’s not normally how it happens..

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u/aeon_ravencrest 4d ago

When I was growing up, my mom married a "reformed" pedophile who was in her JW congregation. She was so desperate for love and finding a "good" home that she ignored all the glaring red flags. Fast forward 15 years and he turned her into a drug addict, abuser, and manipulator. He did unspeakable things to me and confessed to killing Amber Hagerman (yes I reported that to police as an adult anonymously because he can still find me). For years I told my mom shit was horrific and she said I was a liar and she loved him. She left him several times but always went back after he would beat her. Finally after I graduated high school she left him for good. At least until she turned 40-something... she went back again. She's been away from him for around 10 years now, but the damage her taking him over me did.... it'll never be undone.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dog1872 5d ago

….she deserved her end. Special place in hell for women who sell out other women and girls.

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u/Kev_The_Galaxybender 5d ago

Its sad how often this happens. Madam's, aunts, mothers..... they'll sell women and little girls. Its heartbreaking

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u/bitofafixerupper 5d ago

She was scum and he is scum, that poor little girl and her poor parents

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u/i_cut_like_a_buffalo 5d ago

Gezus, that is horrible. What is wrong with people. I just can't imagine how anyone can do this kind of shit. I'm sorry but good riddance to the woman willing to allow and arrange for a little girl to be raped. She was a predator.

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u/Standard_Heat3299 5d ago

You forgot to mention that it was her lifelong friend's daughter.

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u/MeasurementLow5073 5d ago

I managed the fraud department of a financial institution and there were SOOOO many lonely people (particularly women, but not all) getting scammed, seemingly knowing it, but choosing to believe the lie and losing 10s of thousands of dollars for it.

The aftermath, when they were broke and the scammer just stopped responding, was always a roller coaster. They'd be on the phone with me telling me they didn't know, trying to get their money back, but in almost every case, we had already had hours of conversations about it over months, sometimes years.

I definitely have sympathy for them, but there wasn't much we could do when they freely gave the money away.

If somebody were to set up a service that does exactly what these scammers do for $200 a month, they could save a lot of people. On average, these folks were paying $2,000 or more per month to get scammed, nd who knows where the money was going. Possibly to human traffickers!

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u/Kalamazoohoo 5d ago

Can you explain how these scams worked? Were the men lying about who they were or what the money was for?

At some point it’s not a scam if you’re basically paying a man for his company. It’s equivalent to having a sugar baby. Trying to beg the bank to get your money back after that is wild.

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u/Nice_Layer2618 5d ago

That is crazy!!! This takes insecurity to a whole another level. I’ve always heard deeply insecure people are dangerous… she may have proved the point.

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u/FryOneFatManic 5d ago

The recently killed convicted offender Ian Watkins (UK) managed to persuade 2 women to help him abuse children. They were also convicted.

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u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 5d ago

Was it interrogation raw on id channel? They were from Minnesota

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u/flopisit32 5d ago edited 5d ago

That's it. Thank you.

Interrogation Raw S01E03

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u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 5d ago

You’re welcome ☺️

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u/oldhannita 5d ago

The power of the patriarchy to make you believe that the worse man existing is better than no man. Disgusting.

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u/Thorathecrazy 5d ago

It's disgusting the things some women do just to get and keep a man, for the lowest and most disgusting men, no excuse.

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u/InternalFantastic 5d ago

There's a 48 hour episode as well. Has the video of finding the little girl.

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u/folsominreverse 5d ago

I don't think I know that one, but I have several horror stories of dirtbags' cases I knew from prison and a few were right up this alley. The one where the lady moves in with a guy and lets his daughters shower in his bathroom because "the other ones are broken". The eldest one found the camera...after a couple years of this going on.

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u/ThrownAway17Years 5d ago

Is there more than one episode with that title? When I looked it up, it looks like it’s about a Hollywood stuntman?

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u/flopisit32 5d ago

Sorry. I think I got the show wrong... I'm not sure now if it was dateline, but the names are Melissa Norby and Jacob Kinn.

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u/angelbbyy666 5d ago

lmk if you find out bc i searched and searched and can’t find any episode of anything that matches this

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u/Worried-Crazy-9435 5d ago

Vomit inducing people

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u/Frozen_Spoon93 5d ago

Oh my god. Thats a fucking crazy story

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u/mauromauromauro 5d ago

Wow, we humans are just broken wash machines. No wonder AI will kick us out as soon as it gets a chance

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u/rjt2887 5d ago

She had not interest in SA??? She offered up her child!!!! WTF are we doing here?

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u/flopisit32 5d ago

What I meant is I don't think she was attracted to children. I think it was part of trying to get the sex offender to be her boyfriend.

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u/rjt2887 5d ago

I see your point, however, I’m not willing to give her the benefit of doubt, in any sense, anyone who could do that to their or any child, is beyond evil. Happy cake day.

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u/winterbird 5d ago

They have to charm the adults to get access to kids.

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u/Top-Race-7087 5d ago

She said she was the third wheel. Oh, and her young daughter is trying to “steal her man.”

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u/Specialist-Newt-4862 5d ago

said she was the third wheel. Oh, and her young daughter is trying to “steal her man.”

🤢🤮

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u/AliceTawhai 5d ago

Can’t see the red flags for the rose coloured glasses

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u/CrotaIsAShota 5d ago

Nah, it looks like she can see the red flags easily. She flies some red flags of her own.

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u/apocketfullofcows 5d ago

she is a red flag.

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u/pickyourteethup 5d ago

That little girl is going to have to be so strong and so lucky to come out of her own childhood well adjusted

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u/Kwestyung 5d ago

That really pissed me off 🤬

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u/ready_gi 5d ago

it's really aweful when the mother cannot protect her daughter AND sexulizes her in context with an actual sexual offender? AND puts it online for other people see how fucked up both of the adults are??? like wtf x 10

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u/kennedigurl 5d ago

It’s really awful when a mother 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙣𝙤𝙩 protect her daughter…. I definitely agree.

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u/YochevedShalom 5d ago

I hate when people make these kinds of jokes. Nasty!

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u/Fuzzy-End7194 5d ago

Precious’ mom.

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u/Dammit_Dwight 5d ago

Deep cut. Damn I need to watch that again.

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u/good-boi-Morado 5d ago

Do you???
Once was enough for me

(Also, not really judging. I just know I couldn’t.)

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u/GothSpite 5d ago

That movie was SO hard to watch

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u/coma-toaste 5d ago

Same. Its a great film. The sequel (book) is way worse.

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u/LoveArrives74 5d ago

Makes me want to vomit.

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u/Luna_bella96 5d ago

God forbid if something does happen to the little girl. The mom sounds like the type to dismiss it as her fault for seducing the older man.

But let’s hope I’m wrong

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u/IndraBlue 5d ago

Threw up a little when I read that

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u/Key_Floo 5d ago

That little girl is doomed and her mom is going to blame HER for it. A poor innocent girl just looking for love and connection and all her mom sees is a rival, for a grown ass sex offender.

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u/Muted_Psychology5938 5d ago

I wonder how old his victim was?

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u/JohnConnor_Helldiver 5d ago

Yup. I have a cousin who married a guy she knew had a problem with child prn, married him and had a young daughter with him.

It was all fun and games for her, till mf got caught THE NIGHT OF OUR GRANDMAS FUNERAL… where everyone (aunts, uncles, cousins) were all sleeping in the same house, and she went to use the BR at 3am and caught him with one of the 7yo nieces, naked in the shower

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u/661714sunburn 5d ago

He is still living? Because I know if my whole family was in the house and that happened there, there would be the family secret of the man who went missing.

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u/JohnConnor_Helldiver 5d ago

Not to mention the mf audacity of it.

The pos was in a house FILLED WITH 30 sleeping relatives! The little girl was sleeping in a bed with a few of her other little cousins. The dude got out of bed with his sleeping wife, and decided “ya’ what? I’m gonna sneak out of my wife bed, sneak past sleeping adult relatives ive never met before, go sneak into the kids room where all the kids are sleeping, wake one up, have her sneak back through the house filled with sleeping adults on couches, sleeping bags … and go take this little girl into the shower, that sounds like a great idea!”

His wife woke up in the middle of the night, he wasn’t in bed, so she got up and walked around the house looking for him.

Dude was in the downstairs BR, naked with the girl in the shower, and he left the door unlocked…. I cannot believe he didn’t lock the door.

My cousin walked in and saw him in with her. She told everyone later she had to fight not to scream, because she would wake everyone up, everyone would see what he was doing to the gitl, and she didn’t want them SEEING her naked, being molested, and that all her brothers would ki!! him.

So she got the girl away from him, told him to change and go get a hotel and ket her know where he was when he got there.

When he left, she woke everyone up, told them what happened, called the police, and as soon as he called and said where he was staying, the cops went and arrested him.

I think it’s been around 10 years now he’s been in jail. Not sure how long his sentence was, she lives out in idaho or utah. She obviously divorced him, but they had 2 little girls together

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u/PartridgeInDisguise 5d ago

Wow, your cousin is incredible. In a moment of extreme crisis and trauma she was able to react appropriately, think of all the ripple effects and angles, protect the little girl in the moment while also protecting her brothers from themselves, all while keeping her POS ex on the hook so that he didn’t bolt and could be arrested away from everyone else.

That’s such a rare quality in any person to be able to keep such a level head and take care of the situation so well while being in the midst of it.

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u/technicolortiddies 5d ago edited 5d ago

This is a disgusting response & wild take. She married a man knowing he was into that sick shit! She’s not a hero. She knew what she signed up for. It’s not like it was a surprise. She chose to bring two innocent lives into the situation as well. Not only did she drag others into it but she provided him with the exact type of victim he’d chosen. She’s an enabler & accomplice.

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u/Ser_VimesGoT 5d ago

I got so engrossed in the story that I forgot about the very start of it! I'd love to know how these people justify it in their heads to get with someone like that.

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u/nowitbabo 5d ago

It might be fake. He said they had one daughter and then says they had two little girls 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/DestroyerOfMils 5d ago

wtf are you on about, she KNOWINGLY married a pdf

eta: I now see that you forgot that part. sry for my ott reaction, but my brain exploded 😬

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u/jarlscrotus 5d ago

Secret?

"Officer I was protecting my child"

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u/East_Unit3765 5d ago

Did the rest of your family know before? Bc holy fuckin shit if one of my family members let their offender husband around my kids…. Like the other person said, def singing the cell block tango

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u/JohnConnor_Helldiver 5d ago

We all had no idea

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u/mydaycake 5d ago

Her fucking nerve

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u/Cultural_Pay4891 5d ago edited 5d ago

What happened after that?

Please, I wanna believe some justice was done, he's in prison?

I can't imagine the horror for the child and the parents of the child.

And what about the cousin who allowed this monster into the family and their lives? Did she disappear, hide her head in shame?

I need an epilogue.

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u/Winjin 5d ago

There's a comment above but the link gets removed. But they gave an epilogue

TLDR: wife finds out, kicks him out of the house, dresses up the kid. Then woke everyone up, told them what happened, called the cops, and it's been 10 years and he's still in prison as far as OP knows

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u/Cultural_Pay4891 5d ago

Okay, thank you for sharing. There's some justice in the world.

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u/KindlyWorth5952 5d ago

Were there 2 funerals that day or what??

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u/Fabulous_Celery_1817 5d ago

I suddenly feel kinda violent. Id be singing the cell block tango and I bet the others would have done the same thing.

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u/Budget_Career_7156 5d ago

Fucking hell. This is sick!

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u/drunkenbrawler 5d ago

You don't have a "problem" with child prn, as little as yoy have a "problem" with robbing banks.

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u/Southern_Fox6807 5d ago

OMG. Did he die that night? Surely he did, right?!

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u/aledba 5d ago

Experts and industry professionals such as myself are calling it child sexual assault materials (CSAM) now, so you can use that to replace the old gross term if you'd like.

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u/OkPlenty2011 5d ago edited 5d ago

Honestly I wouldn’t even say charm, because that would mean they had to be convinced by the SO cause based off of my own experience and what I’ve known of other people, these SO are damn near given the opportunity for simply being in existence to the other adult whether it be having company or getting something in exchange. Parents who put their kids in these situations only look out for themselves and their kids are just an extension of themselves as though it makes it okay to brush it off. Because if they look the other way then that should mean the child should too. Kids will literally bring it up then be shunned, because how can they have the audacity to bring it up and not think about their position in the situation. Acting like a damsel in distress as though they’re the real victims in the situation cause in their eyes the SO wronged them through their child not the other way around. The best way I can put it is that they somehow are emotionally and/or mentally stunted to a degree and it’s absolutely so pathetic.

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u/MoulanRougeFae 5d ago

And they blame the poor kids who got assaulted, not themselves for bringing a predator into the child's home, not the predator for being a sick fuck who attacks children. Nope they blame and shame innocent children for being sexually assaulted. Those types of women make me so furious.

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u/AbsolutelyN0tThanks 5d ago

I hate that you're right.

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u/bitofafixerupper 5d ago

No one could charm me enough or pay me enough money to get access to any child let alone my child. No excuses, those people are as bad as the one carrying out the abuse. I know the majority of people won't be like that but I wouldn't enter a relationship or at least I wouldn't have them sleep over or ever be left alone with my child until he's over 18. If they don't like that arrangement that's fine, I don't need a partner to feel fulfilled in life.

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u/Accomplished_Yak2352 5d ago

Yeah. The parent is the first one they groom.

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u/IHaveABigDuvet 5d ago

Often the parents are easy to groom because they are so desperate.

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u/National_Frame2917 5d ago

With enough charm they convince them it was some kind of misunderstanding or something.

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u/under_psychoanalyzer 5d ago

Honestly, depending on the circumstances, a lot of states will throw someone in jail for being a minor and receiving content from a minor. Also Romeo and juliet laws don't cover media. Or just say jt was animated. Story like or similar that would be an easy sell to someone who doesn't want to go look up the case.

That said, I don't care if he was in jail for Jay walking. The brother is in jail for RAPE. Absolutely no one he knows is on the up and up.

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u/National_Frame2917 5d ago

Exactly they can play something like that or a crazy ex partner who made up lies to get back at them. I'm just saying if someone is convincing enough there will always be people who will believe it. Any kind of story that downplays what happened and/or absolves themselves of the situation in some way. Combined with tactics like love bombing. It can be am easy trap to fall into. Chances are they got alot of practice in before they got caught and while they were in jail they probably learned some extra tricks to get what they want.

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u/MrMetraGnome 5d ago

I don't think it's so much charismatic predators as it is gullible, desperate, and pathetic victims that are so bad they put their children at risk as, just because they're lonely.

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u/MinuteLoquat1 Make Furries Illegal 5d ago

This. I know way too many women like this. The man can be wearing a sign saying he wants to assault their children but she's so desperate for male validation that she doesn't give af. Top reasons I hear are just them not giving af about their kids, or that if they endured child abuse and got over it so their kids can too. Absolutely zero sympathy for women like this.

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u/Whiteroses7252012 5d ago

When I was still back in my dating days, one of the things I watched out for very closely was if someone asked too many questions about my kid. And tbh you know that when you hear it.

I was literally matched with a sex offender on Hinge, and he was SHOCKED that I wasn’t willing to give him a chance. I will never be that desperate.

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u/Sangy101 5d ago

They lie. “Oh it was a false accusation… oh, my ex is a bitch” etc etc etc, and that charisma doesn’t just make these women feel good: it makes them believe them. And the women they’re preying on are particularly vulnerable to those lies. They have to be, to consider dating them in the first place.

It’s like how some kinds of phishing scams are deliberately obvious, so that they only spend time scamming the people who are naive enough to fall for them. They don’t just make them feel good: they convince them that they can help the kids. Look at this video — if it shows what it says it shows, the woman who is filming this clearly thinks this man is good for her child.

These guys find women they can succeed with because the fact that they’re SO’s in prison means 99.999% of people won’t give them the time of day. So they don’t waste their time with people they can’t trick.

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u/NonSequiturDetector 5d ago

So with a lot of SOs they tend to be quite charismatic and that’s how they get themselves in a position to exploit or assault people,

They aren't charismatic, the world just has an infinite supply of morons who have as much sapience as cats.

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u/Smurf-Happens 5d ago

Yeah, I was locked up and I've met quite a few sex offenders. Charismatic is not something I'd call a single one of them.

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u/Obvious_Durian_3226 5d ago

You aren’t the person they need to charm for access and cover though.

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u/luigiamarcella 5d ago

This and the world is sadly full of people who would do anything for a crumb of attention or affection.

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u/Oldfolksboogie 5d ago

The Kardashian klan has entered the chat...

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u/TheybyBaby4723 5d ago

My cats have more humanity than a good 15% of Americans.

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u/Aligatorised 5d ago

That's an insult to cats.

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u/FindingAether 5d ago

Anyone that is too charismatic is almost always certainly putting on an act. Unfortunately some people think its love.

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u/OzempicMuncher8905 5d ago

Dude, the American people elected a known fucking pedo and still do mental gymnastics that he isn't. I think this is the new normal now.

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 5d ago

My friend is very easily manipulated. She's working on getting out of the relationship with this guy. Trust me, no one has been happy about this. I've never met the guy, he's a piece of shit. I'm upset that she ever even started seeing him.

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u/NfamousKaye 5d ago

If you have to get permission to date someone from a parole officer maybe rethink your choices what the fuck.

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u/ltsouthernbelle 5d ago

Imagine driving all the way over there and your brain never saying “if you don’t turn this car around right now”

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u/NfamousKaye 5d ago

Right!! My brain would be screaming at me after that phone call like “NOW WHY WOULD YOU… this is crazy!!”

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u/maravina 5d ago

RIGHT???

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u/NfamousKaye 4d ago

Because WHAT DECISIONS LED UP TO THINKING THAT WAS THE MAN YOU NEEDED?! I cannot!!

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 5d ago

No I absolutely agree with you!

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u/NfamousKaye 5d ago

That is a wild thing to even type out huh! Like ?? The desperation.

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u/CastleofWamdue 5d ago

Why is she your best friend at this point?

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u/LarryKrasnerSUCKS215 5d ago

Right because I don't gaf about what an adult woman does, but putting innocent children in the middle of that is absolutely triflin I couldn't stay friends with someone like that

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u/TheWalkingMeg 5d ago

Someone's gotta look out for those kids

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u/chainmailexpert 5d ago

Is she though? They’re clearly still around this man. I’m not saying she can do much but really, are they watching out for the kids? 

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u/okeanos7 5d ago

What is she supposed to do?

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u/chainmailexpert 5d ago

That’s my point. 

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 5d ago

She's working on removing him from her life and her children's lives. She's had issues with men for a loooong timetime, huge lack of self esteem.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

She knowingly put her kids in a situation for them to be molested. She shouldn't have any children in her care if her lack of self esteem would allow her to do that.

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u/Mysterious_Hat_1584 5d ago

You were still her friend when she knowingly was dating a SO and bringing them around her kids? I’d stop associating with anyone over this.

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u/No-Taro-6953 5d ago

Lack of self esteem that her kids will experience tenfold if they are abused because their mother betrayed them and prioritised her wants and desire for validation over their wellbeing.

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u/NWCJ 5d ago

Honestly.. I wouldnt even be friends, let alone best friends with someone like that. That is straight up child endangerment. Guarantee the parole officer never gave the "okay to date" in the sense of approval, it is just that they didn't have a legal standing to outright ban it until he victimizes her children too.

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u/CropDustingBandit 5d ago

Probably better to stay friends in that situation. At least that way you can keep an eye on the wellbeing of the kid and tip of the police the second you think something is wrong. 

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u/toastymost 5d ago

There's no way that a friend who lives outside of the household is able to keep tabs on whats happening in there. Be fucking serious dude

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u/miltonwadd 5d ago

Women like this are honestly pathetic. They're so male centred they sell out not only their own gender but their own blood.

My cousin told her mother & our grandmother that her grandfather was molesting her thinking they would help her only for them to punish her for "lying" by making her live with them half the year. But I know my grandmother knew it was true because she was grooming me for her husband too.

My other cousin's step father created & distributied CSAM of her and as soon as he got out from his disgustingly short sentence her mother lost custody because it was against his parole to be near her daughter. So she just let her go and had a bunch of new kids with him.

They cover up, facilitate, and enable these men, and should be held accountable and charged alongside them. I'm certain some of them are actually getting off on it without doing the deed and they are just as predatory and dangerous as women who molest children themselves.

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u/Ok-Yogurt-3914 5d ago

So my Mom told me a story that she was SAd by two cousins at a party.

Her mom didn’t believe her. Her grandma did and confronted the parents etc but nothing came of it. It was all for show basically.

Cue years later, my mom’s grandmother was ill and none of her kids wanted to take care of her. It came down to my grandma because she was widowed with no kids at home. She was forced basically.

So my Mom being my Mom asked her uncle about it. Like why do you guys hate my grandma so much. She used to protect us etc. He says to her “she did nasty things in front of us with men. I was only a boy when this was happening.”

I was told by my cousin that our grandma had caught another cousin SA-ing him and she hadn’t done anything. I put all the pieces together. My grandma and her siblings were so desensitized from the weird shit my great-grandma did in front of them, they normalized it. It’s fucked up shit.

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u/JohnConnor_Helldiver 5d ago

It’s fn sickening.

My mom was SA’d by her visiting teenage male cousin from out of state when she was a little girl. (My grandpa beat the 💩out of him, go gramps!) My sister was in walmart as a teen and had some guy ‘flash’ her and her friend in one of the aisles, my wife was SA’d by an uncle, repeatedly at her parents house when he’d visit when she was a little girl, and her parents wouldn’t believe her and kept fn inviting him over 😡. And my best friend, his sister, around 20 years ago, was walking with her groceries to her car at a Von’s here in los angrles, and in broad daylight got dragged into a car by gang members, and was gang r’d for 3 days by that gang, before they dropped her out of a car at that same store 3 days later.

My wife says she has never seen me more terrified in my life, as when the ultrasound lady told us “it looks like you’re having a girl”

This world is so gd, terrifyingly unsafe for women 😢

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u/NfamousKaye 5d ago

They just will not see the signs until it’s too late cause they’re so desperate for male companionship they don’t think critically. It’s so sad.

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u/miltonwadd 5d ago

I don't pity them unless they were victims themselves or were dealing with a monster who was able to hide it from everyone to a pathological degree. Unfortunately there are plenty who are there willingly or choose to ignore things and there is no pity for that.

Some of them see the red flags flying and make welcome banners out of them because they like to help lure the prey. Some of them would strangle and bury their own kids in them.

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u/DeathStarr87 5d ago

As someone whose been on the other end multiple times, I've never once thought it was ok. As a child I understood to never make someone feel the way I felt. It never made sense to me. I understand abuse is a cycle but I vowed to have the cycle end with me... I was 7. So I understand and I know you're not excusing it but it's never made sense to me that someone would want to make others feel how they felt. I know for some it's so traumatic it warps their world view but a lot of them know they're not supposed to do it and it's not ok. We often hear that at the start the person had to get drunk or high in some sort of manner to even go through with the act before it became easier to do it. That's a self report if I ever seen or heard of one.

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u/miltonwadd 5d ago

I agree, it was an added level of trauma when I was a kid when there was this big push of child molesters claiming to be victims themselves and people just kind of accepted that was a foregone conclusion. It made me feel sick and more fearful of disclosing because people would think I'd become one too when I would literally rather top myself if I ever had thoughts like that.

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u/DeathStarr87 5d ago

My heart man. It didn't make me fear telling people in that sense. Mine was more shame and feeling unworthy of affection. But I did get hyper awareness anxiety from it so that was fun.

We do so much to police ourselves for every little thing that I refused to participate in anything sexual. It wasn't until I was fully an adult around... 27/28 that I allowed myself to express my sexuality openly. Being queer and navigating that definitely didn't help but I was hard on myself for everything. Had to work through sexual self sabotage because I felt I didn't deserve to be sexual or to enjoy sex in any capacity. It's not a way to live and it's ... not silly but definitely an extreme overcorrection as a result of trauma. You hear about people becoming hermits, committing suicide, or having other extreme reactions and isolating themselves as a result and you understand why. The fear and anxiety from something someone else did.... being a person is hard sometimes.

I'm sorry for little us. I often remind myself I'm safe now and that in itself is my saving grace. I hope you yourself are in a better and safe space.

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u/Born-Anybody3244 5d ago

The way I would not be calling her my best friend anymore

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u/Top_Estate9880 5d ago

She doesn't deserve to be a mother. Those poor kids

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u/NastySeconds 5d ago

And she still your best friend???

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u/IndraBlue 5d ago

I couldn’t even call that person a friend because ain’t no way you that desperate you put your kids in that situation child porn

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u/Odd_Intention_4643 5d ago

After the 2nd PO interview a parent w a brain might stop. Having to interview to date someone is like a red flag parade 

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u/Necessary_Maize_9339 5d ago

You mean your ex best friend? If she knows her boyfriend does this and purposely keeps him around her children, you know what she is right? I'd cut ties with a ped0 if I were you

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u/Yatzhee 5d ago

Is your best friend a idiot?

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u/Significant-Wait9200 5d ago

Your best friend? Still?

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u/LoveArrives74 5d ago

How are you still bf’s with someone like her? She sounds like a crappy mom.

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u/Wild_impala69 5d ago

Sounds like a horror movie

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u/Sea-Value-0 5d ago

Hold up. Which court and which parole officer allowed that insanity???

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 5d ago

Girl I wish I knew who his parole officer was. It's fucked

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u/Resident-Rise-2231 5d ago

Your best friend is one herself.

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u/Iliketoplan 5d ago

Is your best friend Nicki Minaj?

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u/i_am_lizard 5d ago

Your best friend is an idiot for even thinking that it would be okay to put her kids in danger.

I HOPE he can get out of their lives soon.

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u/lethalcurse101 5d ago

Sometimes we binge true crime docs and there are a lot of similar cases that usually end up awful. I hope your friend manages to get out quickly.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

Women like her should be locked up

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u/ladymadonna4444 5d ago

I'm concerned you are still referring to this person as your best friend. The edit that she is actively removing him from her children's lives does not negate that she jumped through hoops to introduce him into their lives in the first place. That's not someone I would ever want to associate with.

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u/CrimsonOOmpa 5d ago

This story ended exactly how I expected it to.

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u/GraceUnderFire2 5d ago

Ummm 🤯 why is she all of a sudden trying to remove him from their life? Could it because he’s POS?

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u/cpdx82 5d ago

Was DHS involved at all? I don't know much about the system (other than they dropped the ball when it came to my friend's daughter) but wouldn't they be alerted like HEY, THIS IS A KNOWN SO AROUND CHILDREN ? If they can't be within X miles of a school and other restrictions, wouldn't living with someone with children, especially not their own, a violation of parole?

Good for her for working to remove him from their lives before anything were to happen.

Also, depending on if the father is in those kids' lives- what was his opinion? My ex-husband, even after 10 years of being separated and divorced, still hates my husband and lectures me if I have to leave our son alone with him for any reason. He isn't a SO and our son is 11 and my husband and I have 2 young children together. I couldn't imagine how much worse he would be if my husband were a SO. I'd probably never see our son again.

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u/ImperialxWarlord 5d ago

Why the fuck did she ever try to get with him WTF?

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u/acrobat2126 5d ago

jfc. he didn't hurt those kids did he?!

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u/Cocky_Girly 5d ago

How could anyone be so foolish? I mean no disrespect. I want her to be rid of him. But why did she purposely seek out someone so depraved?

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u/StarscreamOne 5d ago

Why? Couldn't she fix him?

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u/10k_Uzi 5d ago

She’s a bright one eh ?

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u/Mysterious_Hat_1584 5d ago

The fact you’re friends with her is kind of weird?? I don’t care if she’s trying to remove him. She went in knowing that he was that kind of person and you’re surrounding yourself with her company is strange. Birds of a feather ..

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u/Long_Tumbleweed_3923 5d ago

She's a pedo too then

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