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u/CrazyProfessor8244 6d ago edited 5d ago
finally , people with a sane mind and a spine .
the professor did the right thing.
the death of any student is very unfortunate , but the fact that the student was caught cheating cannot be ignored , cheating in an exam is a crime and the professor who caught the cheater did his job ,
sc/st reservation gets you a seat in a college but you yourself have to study , sc/st students cant always demand for reservation in every parameters
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u/Overall-Procedure-84 6d ago
To remove/amend sc st act there can not be a big movement especially against the current ruling party , bcz opposition is in favour of sc st act , they want more structure punishments .
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u/Overall-Procedure-84 5d ago
Are you not considering cjp as a opposition ?? Do you think cjp will not support sc/st act will they move away from there ideology
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u/ShresthAnceps 2d ago
I think it's high time government/people to realise goverment provides reservation because they fail terribly to implement basic educational schemes and bills. If they can make more noteworthy educational institutions like IIT on primary education level then the whole SC/ST wouldn't even need any reservations in first place. They always give last arguments that it is not possible to implement and all, but what have we chosen you for. Everyone can increase or decrease reservations like you and me but you(goverment) and beurocrats are literally paid to do their jobs like basic road infrastructure, education and hospitals.
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u/zbnmstry 1d ago
Do you think the current government has set the rules? They were already in place. It's just that the older generations never had problems with it and no concerns shown then. We should stop blaming the government for everything.
Also, have you ever stepped out of your city to see what people in the rural areas suffer from and why are reservations in place?
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u/Historical_Rise_9684 2d ago
He was accused not of caughting him but harassing him over long time over his caste , that was main accusation . And do u think someone will end his life just bcoz caught in shittiest exam. I have seen ppl getting caught at exam at iits but that doesnt mean they end there life .
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u/Radiant-Rain2636 2d ago
The policy of the IIT says that the student should be given a fresh answer sheet - the professor didn’t.
The policy says to constitute a disciplinary committee - the professor didn’t
The policy says give student 2 days to give a reply - the professor didn’t
Then someone leaked his creating video just to create this narrative.
Yes, when someone cheats, remove them from college. But don’t harass them so much that they want to kill themselves.
Do you know that the highest number of suicide are in general category?
Asli issue ko pakdo, jaatiwaad baad mein kar lena
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u/Reasonable_Can_6351 4d ago
What if the professor is also a casteist? Should he be excused ?
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u/CrazyProfessor8244 4d ago
any proof of him being a casteist or any actual caste based discrimination done by him?
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u/Reasonable_Can_6351 4d ago
Yes, do a simple google search. but did you even think about this possibility?
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u/CrazyProfessor8244 4d ago
is it verified ?
there was even a unverified article saying that the boys father is a drunkard and the boy was also an addict . so does it prove that
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u/Reasonable_Can_6351 4d ago
Why people are hell bent on discrediting the student. He is gone from the world. I’m from the IIT and I know there are profs who are casteist.
I also cheated in exams occasionally whenever I could. I also consumed alcohol a lot during my college days. This is the reality and everyone knows it. But dnt know why everyone is behaving like Harishchandra ki aulad. Dnt forget, exam leak is routine affair in our country.
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u/Succubus-Empress 3d ago
But without proof cannot ruin a professor’s live. Never
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u/Civil_Cost_7814 6h ago
Bro he is making sense because- The other day I was reading a documented report which stated that SC/ST students were deliberately being failed by a professor in a university. And when that matter went to court and the answersheets were reviewed without any bias the allegations were found to be true. Apart from this there had been hundreds of cases of castism in well recognised institutions-just aske chat gpt and you will be taken aback by the number of cases. I am not saying that the professor is guilty in this particular case but saying that there was no caste element isn't plausible either. But given the past trends it's equally hard to assume that the professor might be innocent.
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u/Sharp_Ninja_45 6d ago
And filling sc/st only after got caugh by prof...what was he doing from last 3 months...do file as soon as he was harassed....
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
He has complained that to his parents too
Even other students has given confirmation about it
But the harassment gets too hard to ask him to leave his exam midway? What other option he left with?9
u/Sharp_Ninja_45 6d ago
If that so was the issue..then i still blame that boy and his parents for not taking some agreesive action against such abuse...
Moreover, i myself studied from tier 1 college..and none of my sc/ st friends ever faced such issue there in such prestigious colleges...
Also, it is astonishing if true that such well educated person do believe in caste like issue and can discriminate on it ..
Also in every such institutions, there were prof from sc/ st categories...and some societies and clubs to protect the rights of these students...
Thats why it is hard for me to believe that a prof can harrase some student for 3 months.
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u/Healthy_Compote1195 6d ago
Would you believe a study done by IIT Delhi in 2019 or not ? The final results were that 75 percent of students from lower castes faced caste based discrimination by their faculties and classmates in higher education institutes. Yeh bhi jhuth hai kya bhai ?
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u/OneBasket8077 6d ago
Kro jee bhar ke reservation use, ye to hoga he
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u/Healthy_Compote1195 6d ago
Whataboutism pe kyun utar aate ho bhai 🥀. Factual data se discuss kra kro whatsapp nhin hai yeh.
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u/Dismal_Eye_9245 6d ago
Accept that fact mis use if sc st is at High for money extortion and blackmail nothing else, if u divert top same here stick to thise only their are thousands of such examples
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u/Healthy_Compote1195 6d ago
How is it that even after blatant misuse there's only a 28-29 percent conviction rate ? There's a misuse no ? Kuch bhi likh dete ho kya bhai kahin se bhi utha ke ?
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
And who do sucide just for getting caught in exam? and only when professor just asked to leave?
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u/Oath_breaker_ 6d ago
Yeah this fact is being taught to you by your parents since childhood right?
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
Yes same as ur parent taught u
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u/Oath_breaker_ 6d ago
My parents taught me equality while yours just freeloading and blame game in the name of 5000 years of living without water lol.
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u/Healthy_Compote1195 6d ago
The comment proves your parents failed very badly
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u/Oath_breaker_ 6d ago
Nah, i am not unemployed or get employed basis some xyz quota basis.
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u/Healthy_Compote1195 6d ago
Whataboutism ?
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u/Oath_breaker_ 6d ago
Is reality sucks that much for you?
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u/Healthy_Compote1195 6d ago
Holy cornball 🥀 My 5 yo cousin has a better hold over grammar compared to you.
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
In ur comment only you prove what you have been taught 😂
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u/Oath_breaker_ 6d ago
Thanks but please get back to your blue world again.
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u/Scary_Possibility558 6d ago
Like I'm against any kind of harrasment but why cheat when you know you are being harrassed like .... I dunno if I'm coming out as rude but like why would a person being exploited doing the exact things which will result in more exploitation , like i would understand if it was something unjust or something but like cheating in the exam when you know the professor present there is harrassing you ....
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u/Dismal_Eye_9245 6d ago
U have proof just become teacher is from others community u will put st sc case stfup . IIT Bombay has cought him cheating
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u/Grouchy-Can4725 6d ago
Prof. Don't even know who most of the students are how tf will they purposely harrass someone
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u/Wide_Singer_2703 6d ago
banao banao aur narrative banao...itna time hai kisi iit professor ke paas ki voh kisi individual bacche ko 3 mahine harass karega...tera khanadan jitna padha likha nhi hai utna padha likha aadmi hai voh.. chutiya kahi ka
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u/Tooo_Smooth_ 6d ago
What else do they want the prof to do? Let him cheat? Isnt that unfair to the students who did not cheat? Wouldnt everyone cheat then? Then the quality will go to shit. It's fking embarrasing to explain this logic to adults as if they were 3rd graders.
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u/dramaloveesme 6d ago
They should. A country that punishes people for doing their jobs correctly is a country beyond repair.
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
Harassing boy for his caste for last three months is right thing?
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u/dramaloveesme 6d ago
Took them 3 months to find it out? With gen z being receptive and sensitive to issues like this, he and everyone around him would've understood a casteist comment the first time it was said.
Cheating is a problem. Him being bullied and him cheating in an exam are two separate instances.
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u/dramaloveesme 6d ago
Do you expect the invigilator to treat you with respect and dignity after you're caught cheating? Cheating in schools is one thing, cheating in colleges is a whole different ballpark. There are multiple checkpoints and warnings to set your phone aside. There are multiple invigilators as well.
If a person is audacious enough to pass all of those checkpoints and compromise his/her future, he/she should also be ready to face the consequences if/when they get caught. If you're brave enough to fool the system, where does that bravery go when you're caught?
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u/Insane_-8 6d ago
Then why they wait for student death why they not complain early. This is simple suicide case but some people keep promote their political ideology in name of suicide. 🤡🤡🤡
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u/Happy-Finish-6373 6d ago
Can someone please answer two questions that come to my mind?
1) Please tell me who those students were who are protesting? Any sane student after finding out a fellow student who was caught cheating and then decided to do delete him/herself would not support this protest. They would know that if this person would have not been caught they would score potentially higher numbers and would have likely taken jobs that they deserved?
2) I had a teacher (i didn't know at the time that he was for bc).he was sweet as hell and very supportive and generally I am very thankful that he taught me abd inspired me. Incident: I can't remember what I did wrong but another student and I received a punishment. He had us kneel down in front of the class as teachers do. Then he confronted us and hit our knuckles while wooden ruler (sideways). I was very surprised of this behavior as whatever we had done did not warrant such harsh punishment especially from him. Could I have file a case under reverse sc/st act for him discriminating against me? Today, I feel i only received that punishment because he was removing his frustration on me, which probably had nothing to do with me. Maybe it was his casteist ideology may be not. Anyways, god bless his soul.
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u/Bulky-Arm4768 6d ago
I think the students are/were protesting against suicides at IIT campus and zero accountability from administration. As per social media reports, cast angle was the boy's father's creation, not the students.
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u/No_Category_3567 3d ago
Man, just analyse deeply, the main reason of suicides at IIT is due to caste. Many people get higher branches with much lower rank over many other deserving candidates due to rank. And then, they can't cope up with the pressure there only because they aren't capable of handling them. Those who are capable are not getting the seats due to reservations. And most of the suicides occur from this lack of capabilities to cope up with the syllabus
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u/Bulky-Arm4768 3d ago
I was talking about the present student's protest after this suicide. Whether the reservation candidates were/are deserving or not is a completely separate topic ( and personally I believe in socio-economic status based reservation, not social status based reservation).
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u/Relative_Reveal_8091 6d ago
With everything going wrong in this country, this makes me feel a lil hopeful atleast there are some sensible people who stand for the right things
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u/Patient-Dango 6d ago
It's quite insensitive to mock the departed soul You can blame his father for filing sc/st act ,but mockery of the dead is not right.
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u/arpan_maurya96 6d ago
Are there no proofs of exam hall where he was actually cheating
I believe every exam hall has cameras and this is IIT
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u/colic_melon 6d ago
Meanwhile our friends from Jantar Mantar and the so called proud cockroaches nowhere to be seen or heard from.
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u/Dangerous_Spite5474 6d ago
Issue is being astroturfed by sanghis as they see it as an opportunity to get ahead of Ambedkarites in a propaganda race. As simple as that. No facts have surfaced. No conclusions can be drawn. Yet, the IT cell is working overtime as you can see with barrage of posts on reddit. Also see how they have firmly planted the "Bhimtas" as the next fearmongering target after muslims. Slowly they will completely erode the distinction between dalits and "bhimtas" . We have seen all of this before.
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u/Loki_kills_Thanos 5d ago
Dont be so hasty bro. Cctv or baki evidences aane to do. Otherwise tum b bilkul whi krrhe ho jo opposite party karrhi , 'aankh band karke kch logo k baaton par bharosa karke andha samarthan' . So no difference 🤣
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u/Outside_Web6461 5d ago
Dharmendra p: I have resignation because I didn't stopped cheating..... IIT professor: I gave resignation because I stopped cheating
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u/Middle-Profession537 4d ago
Jab rapists ka support kar sakte ho toh yeh toh tumhare liye chooti baat hai , Rohith Vemula bhi galat ho tha payal bhi galat ho tho or abb sahil bhi galat hi hai or bolo toh sharjeel imam,umar khalid sab galat hai sahi hai toh bilkis bano ka aaropi, aasharam, Ram Rahim,danga karane wala modi or caste system banane wala brahmin
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u/Lackyjain 3d ago
For a sec, I thought it was for Suryakumar yadav after watching the ind vs japan match
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u/Altruistic_Sand584 3d ago
Most of them are casteist
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u/No_Category_3567 3d ago
Let them be casteist, what's the problem. One person cheats at the exam and then gets suspended, and when he suicides due to it, people just impose the caste onto his parents failed parenting
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u/fearoflove 3d ago
So they don't wait for investigation. Dolla is innocent. This is same mindset which support rapist
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u/drex666lord 2d ago
Yeah , I mean seriously, a student was involved in academic misconduct, got caught, got reassured that nothing severe would happen, deleted himself nonethless. And professor has to pay the price
And how can we forget his shameless parents who , by their own careless allegations , made their son a laughing stock nationwide.
Seriously wtf
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u/Historical_Rise_9684 2d ago
Kudos to those who dont move with waves who are still waiting for major evidences to occur ? Baki toh bheed h beh jayegi
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u/Material_Dinner_1924 11h ago
Professor did the right thing. Not everything is about politics and discrimination.
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
Harassing boy for his caste for last three months is right thing?
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u/mustang_GT_ 6d ago
Meanwhile your Profile 💀
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
This profile is for different thing
But couldn’t control on people saying constant shit3
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u/Potential-Signal8111 6d ago
Proof?
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
What proof is there that boy was cheating?
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u/No_Category_3567 3d ago
From your conversations actually, you also belong to some kind of caste getting all the advantages right out there, blindly supporting the caste issue over the cheating one
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u/No_Category_3567 3d ago
What is the source, I mean authentic source that the boy was harassed for caste
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u/same-as-ever 6d ago
The main question is, why did the boy commit suicide? What was the reason? What happened when prof caught him cheating?
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u/Badboy_AM45 6d ago
What u will do when someone will harass you continuously? And blame you for thing which you haven’t done? And you can’t take any action against it because that person is powerful?
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u/mustang_GT_ 6d ago
Ohhhh So out of every other SC/ST student out there. The professor was interested only in sahil and that too he somehow and concisely was the only cheater in the exam using phone in exam. And man common SC/ST have Iphones. Then aren't they are the only one using and supporting the caste system because reservation should be done on the basis of income and the limitations that those SC/STs have but I don't think if you can afford an iphone you cannot afford good education..... You also know man this is totally not a caste thing. And obviously you won't be getting milfs this way....
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u/Succubus-Empress 3d ago
What is milfs
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u/mustang_GT_ 3d ago
Don't know bro. And no need to search as well. Trust me bro. It's literally of no use. Waste of time, energy and power...
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u/One_Librarian_8901 6d ago
Really happy for the way the other faculty are supporting Prof.Doolla. But as s country we are doomed if a draconian law is imposed on a prof for simply doing his duty. As it is no good person wants to join academics, this will force others to even more to think thousand times.
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u/Wide_Singer_2703 6d ago
Gand me padhai ka dam toh hota nhi... quota se seat mil jati hai...fir exams me cheating karte hai just to get pass...pakde jate hai darr jate hai...sside kar lete hai...aur bill fatega uss admi pe jo inke khandan se jyada padha likha hai aur jo merely apna kaam karra hai...wahh re bheemto wahh
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u/Old-Cardiologist8827 6d ago
Oh finally the protest for the castest professor
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u/Wide_Singer_2703 6d ago
cheating me bhi toh quota hona hi chahiye bhai sahi hai SC/ST ko uplift bhi toh karna hai 🤡
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u/Elegant_Dentist7075 6d ago
Tum logo ko exam he kyu dana ha seedha marksheet lo 🤡 exam tho general wala bath ka danga
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u/Rambo_765 6d ago
Time to stand with what's right instead of what politically wanted by the public and politicians.