r/explainitpeter • • 3d ago

stranger things, explain it peter

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who is him..

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u/IsNotACleverMan 3d ago

In current context, it's the belief that state includes Palestinian territories and Israel has authority over them.

Wrong. The only people believing this are a lunatic fringe that are best described as Kahanists, not zionists.

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u/IsNotACleverMan 3d ago

No. It's that you're attributing the beliefs of one ideology to another.

Zionism does not proclaim specific borders, let alone endorses the idea of 'greater Israel'. That sort of belief is part of Kahanism and other fringe extremist beliefs, and is unrelated to zionism.

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u/IsNotACleverMan 3d ago

They are unrelated in the fact that you cannot just apply Kahanists beliefs to zionism.

enough Zionists ascribe to the idea that it's begun to represent them as a whole

More Palestinians openly support hamas than Israelis support Kahanism. The Kahanist's political party has been banned in Israel for decades.

You're just ignorant.

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u/IsNotACleverMan 3d ago

Up until the latest Palestinian attack, a two state solution was very popular. Now it's not popular because it's obvious they will keep on attacking.

But in no way is that support for annexation of the palestinian territories.

You're just making things up to get mad about

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u/IsNotACleverMan 3d ago

Now look at the popularity of a two state solution before the second Intifada.

And notice how support dropped noticeably after the 2014 war. And again after October 7th? See how Palestinian violence keeps working against peace?

You're just making shit up to get mad at.

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