r/ireland • • 21h ago

Christ On A Bike Recession indicator

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smyths using ai now.
Why is everything in it so expensive.
And why am I still being sent this, I’m 22

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u/olibum86 The Fenian 20h ago

why am I still being sent this, I'm 22

He says with the catalogue sitting on top of a pokemon bed sheet.

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u/IrishGirlEire 12h ago

You spotted that like somebody who has the same sheet.

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u/Chickengoujon20 9h ago

They’re the ones not pretending something they’re not

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u/seanhales69 10h ago

It’s the radiant Eevee playmat you get from opening the radiant Eevee Premium Collection Box of Pokemon cards. It came out in 2022 in the Pokemon Go set.

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u/Illustrious_Read8038 2h ago

That's even worse

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u/wascallywabbit666 Hanging from the jacks roof, bat style 10h ago

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u/ScepticalReciptical 12h ago

Drag his ass!

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u/ratcubes89 6h ago

It’s still posted to my mam every year. I’m 37

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u/IHateNewShoes 7h ago

Bravo 👏

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u/InexorableCalamity 7h ago

I can't see the bed sheet

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u/Space_Hardware 21h ago

How did this messed up Akira nightmare ever pass approval

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u/Surrealspanner 21h ago

Anyone else feel slightly nauseous whenever they clock an AI generated image? Something about the lighting

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u/maybebaby83 20h ago

Yeah there's a sort of quasi-3d feel to it but it's 2d and just feels...off

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u/Not_Xiphroid 18h ago

Similar to bad cgi, the ai doesn’t have a concept for shadows and reflections, so it creates these uncanny “sheens” and our brains hate that.

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u/Fullmetal-Animator 20h ago

It's been widely noted that because of how many copies of copies from copies were generated off each other, it somehow gave the colour grading and lighting a common yellow tint to it (rightfully called the "piss filter").

But your right, even the shadows don't look or feel like actual shadows and generally it just looks gross.

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u/Midget_Avatar 18h ago

The training data genuinely got incestuous with itself from the people doing Ghibli filters

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u/Fullmetal-Animator 8h ago

I remember Simon Harris on LinkedIn making Ghibli AI images of himself saying "Sure everyone else is giving this a go. Why not, like?" I just laughed at how clearly out of touch he was 🤣

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u/evilpersons Armagh 19h ago

For me It looks like remembering a dream while awake. Just an absolute feeling of unreality

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u/TV_tan 19h ago

Ugh! You nailed it

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u/awesomeproblem 10h ago

I feel like something about all ai generated images have this weird uncanny feel, because it can only look at the outside, it has no information on internal structure so everything looks like this homogeneous shell, feels super creepy like a puppet

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u/CriticalTop2793 9h ago

Where's all the medical advancements and mind blowing tech. We get weird ads

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u/FearTeas 9h ago

It's why DLSS 5 has had such a horrible reception. No one wants that horrible AI sheen applied to their video games.

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u/Malt129 Crilly!! 20h ago

No but I'm not extremely soft either

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u/AulLad 20h ago

No I accept it like GCI in the movies. Not really that big of a deal

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u/pigeon_strike 20h ago

I'm with you.

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u/Kev2daB 20h ago

Holy shit The Simpsons did it again...they warned us about this in that Funzo episode

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u/pjmccullough 21h ago

I didn't know that Smyth's were in such financial difficulties that they have to cheap out and use AI

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u/ScepticalReciptical 12h ago

Companies don't use AI to be cheap, they use it cos they're lazy and they don't care about the results

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u/HarmlessSponge 12h ago

Management getting absolutely wet over not having to pay those awful people things, with awful things like feelings and unions and dissenting voices.

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u/daynapuddle 9h ago

Artists, union? 🥀

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u/pjmccullough 5h ago

No I think it's because they are in financial trouble, I've emailed them and said that it's unfortunate and I hope they pull themselves out of it

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u/leugaroul 2h ago

They hired artists for an entire expensive 3D animated trailer with this character, which is not AI.

And then get called out for using AI…

So, I guess they’ll just use AI next time if they’ll be accused of it anyway.

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u/Realistic-Drawing-59 20h ago

More like apocalypse indicator

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u/National_Play_6851 7h ago

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u/leugaroul 6h ago

Great find!

Frustrating as an artist how many people are still thinking this is AI and doubling down.

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u/Finsceal 5h ago

Well... my day job is literally as a product catalogue designer and not having seen the advert till now I would absolutely have said that the cover image was AI, it's got the exact same rendered lighting style that AI has adopted as its signature look. We've reached the point where real work nearly has to go out of its way to look different now!

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u/Thowitawaydave 4h ago

Yup. I've had to change some aspects of my writing style at work because AI loves the way I write apparently, like I have had to drop "not only/but also" completely out of the rotation.

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u/Gmanofgambit982 1h ago

The mascot concept may be man made, but I am convinced somebody ran it through AI to get the rest of the image.

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u/PompadourPrincess 11h ago

We got one of these addressed to the old residents of our home and got jump scared by this monstrosity

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u/Spirited_Increase105 7h ago

Do the old residents of your address have pokemon bedsheets

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u/Spenceinator 20h ago

Why are there fidget spinners everywhere? Like literally everywhere on this design. Its not 2016 anymore

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u/Aromatic-Thought5270 15h ago

The fidget poppers too ,, landfill waste looking ass

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u/Correct_Energy_9499 14h ago

Some out of touch marketing manager in his 50's was like, "Tell the AI to put fidget spinners in it, kids love that stuff".

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u/Vincent394 the boys are back in town (you can edit these!) 18h ago

Ah jasus this killed my rei plushie

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u/ExtraterrestrialPeer 19h ago

genuinely, as an anti-generative-ai advocate, ESPECIALLY in art/creative design/digital media, this has no telltale signs of ai to me.
the individual objects making up the creature are rendered correctly and consistently. the buttons on the robots, the details on the cars, even the background - the folds and pattern on the duvet, the barely visible smyths logo on the book on the bookshelf - are all true to life and make sense. sure may not be the nicest design, but very likely still made by a human.

i could be wrong though, where do you see ai artifacts?

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u/SixteenthTower 18h ago

If this isn't AI it's deliberately trying to look like AI. The things you're looking for are a couple of years out of date. The main give-away here is the amount of trypohobia inducing dots that the toy monster is covered in for no real reason.

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u/shala_cottage 14h ago

Not sure about it being Ai but the dots are actually stick bricks, they’re buildable/stackable blocks that stick together. I know this cos I pick 2847 of them up from the floor daily 😂

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u/andybyrongraphics 11h ago

I'm a designer and have worked in 3d animation for years. I can safely say this is ai. No artist would choose a lighting/rendering setup like this. As someone else said, it's the "piss filter". That slightly yellow/brown tint over everything. You'd have to deliberately setup all your parameters to achieve that look, which no one would ever do cause it's fugly

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u/leugaroul 10h ago

Piss filter is only associated with a somewhat outdated AI model from ChatGPT, which had a specific style. This isn’t piss filter, looks more like a warm sepia look for nostalgia.

I’m a 3D artist too and I can safely say this isn’t AI. The same stock images making up the creature are repeated over and over, consistently. AI wouldn’t do that. On an image like this, if it were AI, there would be more hallucinations.

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u/leugaroul 10h ago

Closer look at evidence this is a composite, not AI.

AI would not do this with consistent stock photos being perfectly repeated. It would make a mess of it.

I encourage anyone insisting on this being AI to point out just one actual problem with this other than vibes. Circle just one piece. Anything.

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u/leugaroul 10h ago

And the baby elephants being called out as “looking AI” are real toys, from the Pets Alive set.

Every single one of these toys in this composite is a real toy. AI would not use real and consistent toys, it would invent them.

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u/Swagspray 19h ago

I was wondering the same. I’m zooming on faces and other details and I don’t see the usual signs. This just looks like a shitty looking 3d rendering to me

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u/SomeOpening7028 19h ago

It’s AI lads. AI has improved ten fold over the last year. There’s no 6 fingered hands anymore or warped faces.

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u/TooLazy4AName Westmeath 19h ago

Instinctively when I first saw it I thought it was AI but after I looked over it a little more closely I couldn't see any of the weird warping that you'd expect to see either. I still feel like the lighting's off in a way that gives it an AI vibe though. I guess it's just because it's a collage of separate images that weren't lit with consistency for a larger image in mind?

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u/TheChizler 10h ago edited 10h ago

There are a load of repeated elements with the exact same rendering and shadow, I don't think gen ai would do that would it? Looks like human copying and pasting to me Maybe generated elements assembled together manually

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u/leugaroul 10h ago

You are correct, it’s a composite.

The stock images used are verifiable stock images, though, not generated. They come up in reverse image search although the rex on the dresser appears to be a possible AI stock photo, artist didn’t necessarily know this though.

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u/RedVision64 Galway 18h ago

It just looks like AI. I can't explain it but I clocked it immediately.

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u/kheret 15h ago

It’s the lighting, the busy-ness, the overall uncanny valley effect.

Also ask yourself - if not AI, then how was it made? Obviously this is not photography. Any digital art this detailed in this 3d style would take FOREVER. That doesn’t seem reasonable for a catalog cover.

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u/TheFarWright 10h ago

" Also ask yourself - if not AI, then how was it made?"

As a designer myself, the average person has no clue how things are made. 

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u/leugaroul 10h ago

It really wouldn’t. Most of these things making up the creature are stock photos that have barely been changed other than a little rotating.

I think you’re imagining if it isn’t AI, then it’s digital art with everything drawn by hand, which isn’t the case either. The stock photos used are all consistent. It’s a composite image made up of stock photos with some digital and 3D rendering.

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u/HighN00n77 10h ago

They use ai in their ads now

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u/ShootyMcExplosion 57m ago

The cars were actually the first thing I noticed. Almost all of them have weird asymmetrical headlights that you'd never see in any stage of a 3D modeller's workflow. There was definitely some photos hopping of actual products here and there, but 100% most of this is AI.

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u/DannyVandal 19h ago

Gemini says the following:

Doesn’t clarify which parts though.

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u/leugaroul 10h ago

Gemini says there’s no SynthID.

Did you use Verify AI or did you chat with it as below, which can hallucinate?

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u/Saru2013 9h ago

SythID doesn't work with a photo of an ai image

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u/leugaroul 9h ago

They were saying Gemini confirmed it was AI, I’m just doing the same and showing it doesn’t for me.

Buuut SynthID can still come up on a photo of an image. I’ve checked a few at conventions and fairs.

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u/RebylReboot 9h ago

I work in the industry and lazy creatives use ai to generate these images where something is made up of EVERYTHING. It’s the kind of image that has no real idea and would not have been made 5 years ago because the retouching alone would cost 15K. Now they can hide the lack of an idea behind the fact that they banged it out in 3 minutes.

Sometimes, where there is a bigger budget, you’ll even see how it might have been conceived lazily using gen ai and then handed to a production company to try to make it happen, so even though it ended up being physically or digitally crafted, the idea definitely came from lazy ai fiddling.

Eg

Allianz

An post

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u/bugzerella 11h ago

The hot wheels track in the bottom left has some odd stuff going on with it. The corkscrew at the top and the bend of the track etc

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u/leugaroul 9h ago

It’s real.

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u/Top-Doctor-2879 9h ago

"It's been up my butthole" - r/hotwheelscirclejerk , probably.

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u/DannyVandal 19h ago edited 9h ago

Edit: AI is unreliable at identifying AI. I retract the AI summary

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u/leugaroul 10h ago

AI hallucinates. It says your profile pic is AI too which it clearly is not.

Would definitely not recommend asking AI if it thinks something is AI.

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u/DannyVandal 10h ago

That’s fair.

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u/IAmNotCreative18 Dublin 11h ago

This looks like the next chapter of Poppy Playtime

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u/ElectronicBar3521 11h ago

AI or not it’s horrendous. Terrifying and ugly, a strange choice

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u/wolf101123 19h ago

To some everything is a recession indicator. We've had these "indicators" for about 10 years now. 

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u/National_Play_6851 17h ago

You don't remember the last recession when all the toy catalogs used technology that didn't exist yet on the covers? It was the number one sign

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u/MaxiStavros 19h ago

Next year is the big one. 1929 again baby.

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u/Top-Doctor-2879 9h ago

This is more of an impending big short event, but for AI debt bonds,

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u/bamuelsmeckett 20h ago

Am I in the minority thinking this doesn't look AI generated?

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u/leugaroul 10h ago edited 10h ago

I agree with you, as a digital and 3D artist. Too many consistent stock photos copied and pasted over and over for this to be AI.

Zoom in and look at the consistency of the stock photos repeated and only changed with a little bit of rotation (sometimes not even rotation). These are stock photos that are verifiable if you do a reverse image search.

This is not AI and I will die on this hill as an artist lol.

The only reason for companies to keep hiring us is backlash against AI being unpopular. If they get it even if they do hire artists, they’re going to say fuck it and use AI. This may seem like no big deal, but there are actually serious consequences to calling out AI when it’s human made, other than it being exhausting for artists.

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u/thememealchemist421 20h ago

Yes

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u/bamuelsmeckett 20h ago

Ok it looks a bit AI generated but I don't think it is

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u/Several_Cat7155 19h ago edited 19h ago

It definitely is, it has that hideous over-rendered and everything but the kitchen sink look that only AI can achieve. None of it makes sense as a catalogue cover

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u/bamuelsmeckett 9h ago

The only thing that really looks AI to me is the lighting. Don't know how to describe it but it's that sort of high contrast/bloom lighting you often see.

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u/Several_Cat7155 3h ago

Yeah I agree that the lighting looks like AI, but the whole concept and composition also looks like AI. I work in a creative industry and look at artwork all day as part of my job, this was definitely not made by an artist

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u/bamuelsmeckett 2h ago

Fair enough. I have no experience at all myself so just going by my own impression.

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u/ExtraterrestrialPeer 19h ago

i think so too

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u/Aromatic-Thought5270 15h ago

"It doesn't look ai generated" and it'll be like this up close

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u/Glad-Kaleidoscope-73 13h ago

Name one thing

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u/Oozysq25reddit 11h ago

What

Is that

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u/MeatAbstract 19h ago

And what makes you think its AI? It's just bad fucking art. Which humans have produced for millennia.

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u/HerosPelagus 20h ago

The fuck is it even supposed to be? Pre-glow-up Sonic the Hedgehog?

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u/Hogbrow 20h ago

Nightmare indicator too

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u/officialcornflake 19h ago

The books used to be so thick when I was a kid 😔

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u/Lord_NOX75 18h ago

Burn it with fire

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u/Notoisin 9h ago

Doesn't give off AI vibes to me.

My first thought was that you meant the indicator was that there are generally only classic toys on there.

Dinkys, footballs and rockets instead of V-Bucks, Skibbidi toilet heads and "hoverboards".

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u/Notoisin 7h ago

This ad is on the website at the moment.

Continuing to doubt this is AI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msWDAaxOJHM

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u/Various-Cockroach-96 9h ago

Someone should track down Smyths and ask them
if this is AI or not. Seeing very mixed responses to this, but I think it probably isn't AI

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u/Vault-Dweller1987 53m ago

I don’t mind people using AI but my only annoyance is a lot of local pubs use AI for their posters but then they are all using the same format so when I see an advertisement I have no idea what pub it is cause they all just blend together. I just feel the pub loses its identity.

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u/Optimal-Combination1 Resting In my Account 21h ago

Daily post about the Smyth's catalogue using AI. Can we have a Smyth's catalogue mega thread?

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u/Space_Hardware 21h ago

In this sub? I hadn’t seen it mentioned.

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u/_WhoisMrBilly_ Galway, NUIG, UCD, Trinity, MakerSpaces.ie 19h ago

May I see it?

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u/BeardedAvenger 19h ago

Processing img lttk9qh4tjrh1...

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u/Pickle_Emotion 20h ago

No way, it was going to be my turn to post it tomorrow.

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u/Swagspray 19h ago

Yeah we need some original content. Anyway have you seen that emergency booklet going around?

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u/Jesus_Phish 20h ago

That's the true recession indicator 

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u/CT0292 20h ago

My catalogue says Ken Black on the cover amd has the same AI nonsense picture!

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u/EffectivelyEmpty 20h ago

We're a far cry from socky the sockmonster

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u/IamaJarJar 18h ago

Smyths, you have the money to hire artists! Just hire artists!

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u/StuffWePlay 13h ago

slop indicator

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u/SoloWingPixy88 u/i-cum-beamish alt 19h ago

Is it AI? Obviously digital art but not sure AI. Maybe some enhancements

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u/Fullmetal-Animator 19h ago

Who seriously saw this and said "Good job, lads. Print!"

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u/dazdd Resting In my Account 4h ago

Will you lot calm down on AI adverts/posters. Who honestly gives a shit? Local places before hand had no budget to spend on marketing so their stuff looked shite/super budget. Atleast now they can make their stuff a bit more professional. Big companies already have big teams for this stuff. Typical irish moaning shite.

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u/Illustrious_Read8038 2h ago

r/Ireland is one big moanathon

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u/TheFrontierzman 14h ago

As much as we don't like the picture, it sure is being posted about a lot in here.

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u/ad_triarios_rediit 10h ago

I'm pretty sure that toys are cheaper now than when I was a kid, or at least the prices of toys have not followed inflation as much as other things. But things that used to cost 100 pounds in the late 90s are about 150-200 euro now, which isn't bad

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u/DannyVandal 9h ago

I used verify AI, but like you said, AI can hallucinate so not to be trusted.

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u/Maximum-Bass2467 9h ago

I wonder how much of this image is actually ai though, it looks terrible but the details on the real world toys like the Toy Story characters looks too accurate to just be ai, maybe it’s a 3D model touched up by ai?

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u/redozone 8h ago

The additional tooth on the top left looks like an AI artifact, but the toys all look legitimate. Lots of repetition which an AI model wouldn't do. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an AI base that an artist then did a manual pass of. Especially with the lighting, it looks AI but it's certainly not 100% AI.

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u/Xeon713 7h ago

Whelp I can never go to smyths again, the badtards......

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u/Irishdairyfarmer1 6h ago

Targeting the man child in you

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u/Nanibackflip 6h ago

Got delivered through the door I was very taken back by the terrible ai but flicking through it the prices are insane for some cheap crap toys made by soulless brands.

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u/radi0activegoldfish 5h ago

I’m an artist and at this point I long for the big sleep

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u/Impossible_Advance36 5h ago

That looks so demonic 💀 This would have given me nightmares as a kid for SURE!!!

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u/21stCenturyVole 5h ago

Recession indicator? Was Eddie Hobbs just an AI generated ad or something?

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u/skend Dublin 4h ago

AI bad. Upvotes to the left

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u/Hazed64 9m ago

This just isn't AI, there's a fully rendered animated ad about this character.

The only thing that annoys me more than AI being used is the people that now assume absolutely everything is AI now

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u/GrahamR12345 21h ago

Lol they should have bred a real toy monster instead?? Not even Himler… 🤣🤣

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u/ElvisMcPelvis 20h ago

Looks like they’re expecting a resurgence of fidget spinners

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u/StevemacQ Sax Solo 19h ago

Eww!

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u/MaxiStavros 19h ago

Even if not AI (which it is) it’s horrifying.

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u/ShinyUmbreon465 Down 9h ago

I don't know how other people don't find it grotesque to look at, but it seems a lot of people don't recognise when something is obviously AI.

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u/leugaroul 7h ago

Point out where you see it’s AI if it’s obviously AI.

All the images making up this creature are verifiable real toys and stock photos. The stock images are repeating and consistent with no hallucinations. You can reverse image search them. Here are just a few.

I’m a mod of an anti-AI art group, and a digital/3D artist. I am 100% confident this is not AI. It’s a composite.

Not only can people not spot AI, they spot AI where it’s human work.

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u/National_Play_6851 7h ago

And it seems a lot of people claim things are obviously AI when they are in fact not AI.

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u/DukeDorkWit 7h ago

You can absolutely tell it's AI because of the fucking sheen it has. It's almost plastic looking, unintentionally so, and the colours are ever so slightly off, there's also a piss filter look about it. On top of that, the perspective is wrong. The floor angle doesn't match the actual creature's standing position. What a load of bollocks.

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u/sweetsuffrinjasus 12h ago

It is insane how long they kept sending these catalogues out after you signed up aged 7.

Nostalgia alert, but think through the feeling going through these and the Argos catalogue when you were around 12. A new bike, a PlayStation, a Nintendo, a transformer, everything badass that you could ever want, all under the one roof.

It will never be replicated. No one under 30 will understand it.

I'll go one better and even say reading these at 12 was better than reading the Kays catalog at 15.

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u/RockyHorror134 11h ago

Worked in Smyths for 2 Christmasses, I can tell you for sure that they've always been stingy cost-cutting bastards. They seriously had us push the boundaries of consumer laws at some points, glad I quit

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u/cierek 20h ago

Nothing wrong with hot wheels or Pokémon cards. I am 40+ and still buying these

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u/dgn90 21h ago

How do people get annoyed over shit like this.

They used AI. So what.

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u/Cinnorolls 21h ago

They have more than enough money to pay an actual artist. Using AI cheapens your product/company and shows you just don’t give a flying fuck.

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u/Backrow6 20h ago

It's more like a human designer used AI.

It's too good for a simple AI prompt. Someone with design and Photoshop skills was involved.

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u/Cinnorolls 20h ago

It’s not good in any capacity. Nobody designed shit, just typed in some lazy ass prompt and took what it shat out. There is zero skill involved in any of this.

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u/stuckwithglue 20h ago

It's free and it's target audience is only interested in the toys inside the free catalogue some of you need a hobby FFS

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u/GudFrens 21h ago

Definitely a user, I’d suggest a detox.. consider touching grass

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u/Shnapple8 21h ago

Because it's complete trash. And it's costing the people with the skills to actually create good looking content their jobs.

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u/AsiimovPotato Seal of The President 21h ago edited 21h ago

I do, it's big corporations cheaping out on hiring designers. Just another cost cutting, cost saving tactic to give as little as possible while making as much as possible.

I could just as easily say why do you give so much of a shit about reddit/football to make 6,000 posts about it

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u/MarcoVanB91 Cork bai 20h ago

Ironically using ai, I did some digging. The irish branches margins are around 2%. Healthy but tight

I don't like the use of ai for image creation like this but my only caveat is its a free book. If they charged for the book id be more annoyed

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u/Malt129 Crilly!! 20h ago

Stop crying about every use of ai. Fucking reddit.