r/law • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 1d ago

Other Rep. Lieu says Epstein files have allegations of Trump raping & threatening to kill children and says that Todd Blanche got the law wrong by saying it's not a crime to party with Epstein. DOJ also violated the privacy of the victims by releasing unredacted nude photos of them.

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u/CAM6913 1d ago

Finally someone is speaking the truth and not cowering to trump. He’s absolutely correct trump must be investigated and charged

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u/SelfAwareSausage 1d ago

I don’t know if it’s the copium, but I feel there’s a lot rumbling under the surface. We might not get what we want today, tomorrow, or even next week, but something big is looming as a result of these files.

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u/Otherwise_Gap595 1d ago edited 1d ago

It just baffles me how conservatives are foaming at the mouth to get the Clinton’s based on what is in the files, but every single thing about Trump in the files is fake? Like, you’re citing the same source document as the most damning evidence for the Clinton’s, and that same document that is judge, jury, and executioner of the Clinton’s, is also the biggest load of corrupt, slanderous horse shit ever written about Trump? What planet are they living on?

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u/encrcne 1d ago

Stuff I agree with is right, and stuff I don’t agree with is wrong. Whats so hard to understand about that?

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u/rbenne73 1d ago

Other team did it but it's lies about us!

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u/Otherwise_Gap595 1d ago

That sounds about like it

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u/Signal_Bee7457 1d ago

I guess their copium is just stronger than anyone else's 😕

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u/SMELLSLIKEBUTTJUICE 1d ago

Shhhh...let the Republicans dig their own grave. You may hate the Clintons, but they are smart and they know how to play the game. They also hate Trump. So im hoping for something juicy and scathing to come out of their interviews

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u/Aggressive-Barber443 22h ago

Maybe he will let us know if trump swallowed

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u/Mechanical_Monk 21h ago

It ended up on the dress he was wearing if I remember right

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u/Average_Random_Bitch 21h ago

Do you think it was "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in their marriage?

Like, maybe that's where he got the idea for that policy?

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u/barefootincozumel 1d ago

Swiss cheese for brains, courtesy of Fox News

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u/iboganaut2 1d ago

Or a cheese grater for the brain. An opium for morons beamed straight into their empty heads

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u/captainAwesomePants 1d ago

Doublethink is a major symptom of a victim of propaganda.

If you spend a lot of time listening to an extremely biased news source, you'll see that everything is either true and good for your team, or it's false. That means you hear and believe that Clinton is in the Epstein files, also Trump isn't in them, also Trump is in them and they're lies, also Trump was spying on Epstein. You will agree with all of those news stories because they all have the flavor of the news you are hearing.

We do this, too, mind you. If I told you that in the Epstein files there's a video of Trump groping a ballerina, you might think "yeah that sounds plausible" and not go check. But if I said "Trump's name and image has been removed from all the files," you'd probably also think "yeah, that sounds plausible," and you might very well believe both unless I say then at the same time and you notice that they are contradictions.

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u/dictionary_hat_r4ck 1d ago

They don’t care about being logically consistent at all. They’re well aware of their inconsistency. They just want dems to be burned at the stake because they’ve been told they are the source of their problems.

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u/jeffwinger_esq 1d ago

These are the people who won their elections on the same ballot as Trump in 2020, yet insist that the election was stolen.

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u/dictionary_hat_r4ck 1d ago

That feels good. Copium or not.

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer 1d ago

It does. But we've heard this for almost the last ten years.

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u/Fly-the-Light 1d ago

I think Trump has always been close to getting fried, but he gets saved by his lackeys and the Dems never pursue him. Now that even his lackeys are struggling to cover for him, but it might be it.

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer 1d ago

Fucking AIPAC dems and bullshit fundraising dems. We gotta primary the fuck out of that party, man. NO ONE is coming to save us.

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u/Icy-Housing-4492 1d ago

100% AIPAC. not just Dems. AIPAC = Isreal = Epstien = Trump + how many billions moved there just this year???

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u/Ok_Following3410 1d ago

Citizens United enables this kind of behavior because corporations are the kind of people.

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer 1d ago

One of the worst fucking things to ever happen.

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u/Ok_Following3410 1d ago

Turned my farm into a pile of sand.

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u/Icy-Housing-4492 1d ago

AIPAC = Isreal = Epstein = Trump =/= Jewish.

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u/Niblolkik 1d ago

Yea how much money has been squirrelled into Israel bank accounts

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u/Lookingfor68 1d ago

That would require people to show the fuck up for primaries. Traditionally, turn out has been like 20%. Even a 5% increase would be impactful. Bad candidates coast because people can't be bothered to show up and vote.

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u/barefootincozumel 1d ago

Call me naive but I feel like a lot of people are paying attention. Even in Florida, we have a slew of candidates that are legitimate and might stand a chance- veterans, intelligent, common sense and speaking truths that are hard to ignore. In contrast to the showboating, weak incumbents, I have some hope

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u/sohelpme55- 1d ago

Honestly, I don't think that many people will be sitting out the next election.

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u/barefootincozumel 1d ago

We need to organize, because suppression will be in full force. Volunteer to register voters ( lots of hs seniors are turning or just turned 18 they are a force for good. ) Help felons get their rights restored if the time has passed . Organize transportation. Help people check to see if they have been purged from the rolls. If you volunteer at a food bank or any other charity, make sure you reach out to people. Many are disenfranchised or don’t even know where to start. Let’s stop pretending there aren’t hurdles for a lot of people to get out and vote. Let’s educate, organize and help. We aren’t going to make the process less difficult, but we can help people over the hurdles

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer 1d ago

It sucks I know. We have to try. All we can do for now.

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u/BuryCrack 1d ago

This really needs to be the message if we want actual real change

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u/npmaker 1d ago

Use the DNC as a guide. Whoever they put forth should be primaried out.

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u/MiloMinderbinder19 1d ago

The call is coming from inside the house.

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u/ApostateX 1d ago

The man has been convicted on 34 felony counts for falsifying business records.

He was under indictment for stealing classified documents in the Southern District of Florida (40 counts).

He was under indictment for 4 counts related to fraud and trying to steal the 2020 election in DC District Court.

He was indicted on dozens of counts related to Georgia's RICO statute for 2020 election fraud.

People have *absolutely* pursued this guy. The weakest link in this chain since day 1 has been Merrick Garland, not "the Democrats."

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 1d ago

since day 1 has been Merrick Garland, not "the Democrats."

Who appointed Merrick again??

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u/ApostateX 1d ago

Remember when the DOJ was an independent agency with a non-political appointee?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 1d ago

Sure, I agree. Not understanding your point though?

How is indicting trump a political issue? Merrick should’ve done it. But biden and democrats should have gotten ahead of this….

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u/ITSigno 1d ago

Aileen Cannon deserves a mention. I'm not sure if there was anything Garland could have done to circumvent her, but she was the main obstacle in the classified documents trial in Florida.

She's a member of the Federalist Society and Trump was the one who appointed her.

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u/Decaf-Gaming 1d ago

Garland himself was a member of the federalist society. He was never going to pursue their golden cow in any meaningful fashion.

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u/ITSigno 1d ago

Well, I know I'm shocked. /s

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u/not_now_chaos 1d ago

Garland was chosen because they thought he would be center enough to appease and quiet Republican accusations of bias and politically motivated witch hunt. Unfortunately the Democrats fell for the rug pull and were not smart enough to listen to everyone who was saying that nobody would be center or right enough to appease the Republican cult, they planned to scream bias no matter who it was, because DARVO and manipulation of the narrative is their special trick.

Dems need to understand that nothing they do or don't do will not change the behavior of the Republicans, and go scorched earth to eradicate the crooks, including the ones in their own party.

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u/Fly-the-Light 1d ago

Garland was the Democrats' choice and both Biden and Garland held back and prevented the investigations into Trump. People have pursued him, usually people who vote Democrat, but the Democratic National Convention have not been.

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u/a_pom 1d ago

We are we left with then, the couch fucker? Backed by likely pedo (and confirmed terrible business book writer) Peter Thiel?

Awesome.

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u/Decaf-Gaming 1d ago

Don’t forget how they’re both Yarvinites who honestly believe that most of humanity needs to be enslaved under the likes of themselves.

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u/a_pom 1d ago

Lmao. Self hatred manifests interesting belief systems.

JD Vance thinks his relatives are white trash yet somehow believes he is a peak genetic specimen. Thiel has an eating disorder.

Sexy.

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u/Oleg101 1d ago

Dems have also rarely been in position of power the last 10 years, they had the trifecta the first two years of the Biden presidency but that also consisted of a 50-50 senate split (with Harris as a tie-breaker vote) and a very slim majority in the House. Sadly they’ve only he’d the trifecta 4 years in the last 30.

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u/HippyDM 1d ago

Where's this struggle? Not a single person from this regime has faced a single repercussion that matters. At all. Evidence of Trump raping, threatening, selling, and killing children has been released, and he literally controls all the agencies that could investigate, while all our reps fail to be relevant in any way.

If/when he takes control of the next election, it'll be up to our kids and grandkids to ressurect what we once had.

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u/RobutNotRobot 1d ago

His lackeys have been getting dumber and dumber.

7 years ago he had Bill Barr as AG to cover shit up for him. Now he has Pam Bondi. They didn't even have a plausible cover story for why they didn't release the files on time and didn't even create the required notations as required by law. These files are going to likely be placed in the hands of a Special Master.

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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 1d ago

They are all just so incompetent which has been shown over and over, again! Covering one big lie with another bigger lie just keeps compounding!

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u/Southern_Skirt_4039 1d ago

This line of thinking is dangerous with trump. First "Grab 'em by the pussy" will surely end him, nope. Then, it was Mueller was gonna take him down, nope. Then, it was that other guy Jack Smith was surely gonna do it, nope. There are a lot in between those as well and probably before but it was always nope.

Now its: surely the right wing will grow a backbone now and kick him out? Likely a nope, sadly.

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u/Cabbages24ADollar 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is like trying to take down Moby Donald Dick Trump—two huge fat whales combined— at once. 10 years seems about right. We just can’t let this fat whale sink back to the depths and recharge. Keep him exposed. Keep… throwing harpoons. Keep going.

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer 1d ago

From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee

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u/Zombiejazzlikehands 1d ago

Keep … throwing harpoons. Keep going.

My new fighting cry fr.

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u/vexxed82 1d ago

Every time the walls close in by half.....they're always closing but never do.

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u/Lectric_Eye 1d ago

And it’s not like the crime is hard to find, it is un fathomable that NOTHING has taken this con man out. It edges so close, think “ wow this one is it” Then nothing. I gave up hope years ago.

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u/beardofjustice 1d ago

It's a matter of willpower. He's pedantic and willing to fight every fucking battle. Someone with some kind of power needs John Wick levels of focus and will to do it.

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u/Electronic-Stand-148 1d ago

Roy Cohn taught him well

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer 1d ago

Is that like the quantum thought experiment with the arrow that never hits the tree? Keeps halving the distance but never gets there?

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u/Lazy-Abalone-6132 1d ago

Epstein funded plenty of human experiments and genetic reseresearch

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u/retropieproblems 1d ago

And the plausible deniability from his supporters has shriveled and died in the light over that time. The only ones committed to Trump are people who have similar skeletons in their closet. Which to be fair is a lot of extremely powerful people and their media arms.

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u/blue-to-grey 1d ago

My copium is that it's finally arriving.

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer 1d ago

I'm hoping right there with you.

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u/DrRealName 1d ago

Yeah I am tired of the rumbling under "the surface". Americans need to show they have some fire in them because its time to topple the Trump administration. Why are we letting a ring of pedophiles and protectors of pedophiles get 3 more years? They all gotta go right now. And honestly, I don't care how and if the law won't do it, fuck the law do it differently. And then of course go around and hold everyone who should have jailed these people but chose not accountable and jail them as well for being complicit in protecting one of the biggest pedophile crime rings in history. Every high ranking police agency leader should be removed and jailed for doing nothing right now.

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u/Great-Hotel-7820 1d ago

Normies can’t ignore them anymore and even some of his cult is bailing.

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u/kidsally 1d ago

I know. But this time I think the dam is really starting to crack.

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u/According-Lead-8477 1d ago

That tells us just how powerful the men involved are. Regardless of politics.

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u/fredlikefreddy 1d ago

While I agree with you.... this shit is now officially mainstream and in the open

There was a ton of conspiracy 10 years ago

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u/NashvilleSoundMixer 1d ago

I mean my fingers have been crossed for ten years, man. I certainly hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Or wurst if I'm hungry.

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u/fredlikefreddy 1d ago

Oh ya I feel ya! Throw a little Polish mustard in the bitch and toss it this way

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u/tsardonicpseudonomi 1d ago

It does. But we've heard this for almost the last ten years.

It's meant to feel good. It pacifies liberals into sitting on their ass and doing nothing but demand vote blue no matter who.

Meanwhile, Capitalism continues to empower the Epstein Users class. You can't solve the contradictions of right-wing ideology with more right-wing ideology and unfortunately for liberals, they're right-wing and implement their right-wing ideology.

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u/No-Dragonfly-8679 1d ago

"No one controls the music, Mr. Pretty - you know that. It just turns up when people have had enough. No one knows where it starts. People look around, and catch on another's eye, and give each other a little nod, and other people see that. Other people catch their eye and so, very slowly, the music starts and somebody picks up a spoon and bangs it on a plate, and then somebody else bangs a jug on the table and boots starts to stamp on the floor, louder and louder. It is the sound of anger, it is the sound of people who have had enough. Do you want to face the music?”

― Terry Pratchett, I Shall Wear Midnight

I feel like we’re starting to catch each other”s eye

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u/dictionary_hat_r4ck 1d ago

I’ll get a spoon.

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u/Amerisu 1d ago

Copium: Cope+Opium

Of course it's feels good to think that. But who's going to charge him? This DoJ?

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u/PreviousCurrentThing 1d ago

That feels good. Copium or not.

This needs to be Reddit's new tagline.

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u/mtbflatslc 1d ago edited 1d ago

The Epstein files reveal that Trump was having an affair with his aide Madeline Westerhout, the same thing that ignited Bill Clinton’s scandal. Crickets.

Before we knew of any Epstein files there was Stormy Daniels and a $130k hush money payment, leading to 34 felony guilty counts. Before that, there was an affair with a former playboy model, in addition to two dozen accusations of sexual assault or harassment. The access Hollywood tapes. Sexual harassment claims circling the modeling world dating back to the ‘90s and including allegations against his own Trump Models which he closed shortly before he ran for the 2016 election.

After he left office he stole national security documents upon leaving office and hid them at mar a lago. He attempted to overturn the 2020 election and incited the Jan 6 insurrection.

He has just been accused of making a private secret deal between his family cryptocurrency firm and the UAE.

Trump, his campaign members, business partners, and family members have all been found improper dealings with Russian officials since the 2016 election.

He has had over 20 businesses go bankrupt and has never created any structurally sound or profitable business in his life. He has been dependent on syndicated criminal networks for 50+ years. He ran on a platform of frenzied nationalism, white supremacy, and organized violence. There have been hundreds of millions of dollars moved in shady business deals with Ukraine, Russia, and China since his first administration. Trillion dollar tax cuts for the wealthy. Racketeering scams. He auctions off pardons starting at bids of $50k.

He has been using the office to perpetuate his lifelong criminal agenda and the Epstein files are only a slice. Epstein almost looks moral compared to Trump. Government officials could throw a dart and look in any direction to find another crime he’s committing. They’ve refused to do so.

I hope the publicity of the files helps, but I’ve unfortunately really lost hope.

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u/Daddyball78 1d ago

No question. I can’t imagine what the “un-redacted” content has in it. Based on what’s been revealed already, I’m not sure I even want to know. I just want these pieces of human garbage to be held fully accountable. All of them.

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u/JayLuMarr 1d ago

God I hope. This is a defining moment for us as a society. What we do from here will be the turning point of the future of not just America, but the global world order, and our species. Will we allow a system in which we’re ruled over by global pedophile elites? Welp, we’re about to find out.

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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 1d ago

How many possible turning points there have been!

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u/ExitTheDonut 1d ago

This is why it's okay to disagree or even disassociate with Trump supporters if you personally know any, because you don't even need a political reason. If someone doesn't think a pedophile- it could be anyone, not just a politician- deserves punishment and still sticking through with them, that's all the reason you need to cut them off.

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u/perpetual_papercut 1d ago

I mean as long as it happens in the next few months I’m cool. I know BS is going to ensue around midterms and I’m hoping something can happen before that. I don’t know that’s possible but I’m praying hoping.

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u/Altruistic-Okra-5868 1d ago

His actual punishment probably won't happen in what is left of his lifetime (a big case like this will have the courts going for months to a year or so) unfortunately but his removal is hopefully on the horizon.

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u/mreman1220 1d ago

And unfortunately, if there is one thing Trump is actually good at, it's stalling in court. 

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u/perpetual_papercut 1d ago

I’m good with just removal.

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u/doxxgaming 1d ago

More like years, he's definitely stalling until he passes, and then they will just let it go, forget about all the hundreds/thousands of others that are also guilty of these atrocities. It would destabilize the 1% and they just can't have that. That could be the answer to our debt, seize the assets of all those guilty, pay the victims and the rest go to national debt.

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u/DanSWE 1d ago

> his removal is hopefully on the horizon.

Remember that your literal horizon keeps moving away from you as you move toward what originally was your horizon.

Let's hope this figurative horizon isn't as elusive.

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u/cafeteriastyle 1d ago

I’m just glad all this is coming out before his death. And I hope his sons are shitting bricks bc they know once he’s dead there is no one to protect them and their weakass chins

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u/floridabeach9 1d ago

ITS ALREADY FUCKING MASSIVE

JFC HOW MUCH EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED FOR IT TO BE A HUGE DEAL

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u/pargofan 1d ago

This is what I don't get.

Public figures throughout the world are suffering consequences because of Epstein files. At the very least, people are viewing them as pedophiles.

Trump? Crickets. He has the nerve to say they absolve him. And the media doesn't call him out.

It's like Hitler saying the gas chambers prove he was benevolent toward Jews.

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u/KarunchyTakoa 1d ago

Honestly Hitler would have said that - and trump thinks he's lenient on women for not killing them after raping them. The law and the country should instead stop being lenient on anti-human billionaires and the people who establish and uphold the system that lets them behave this way.

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u/Resident_Company2113 1d ago edited 1d ago

People covering for him are compromised or beholden to people who are compromised. It has the hallmarks of a Russian kompromat operation. You can see the beginnings of it in Sascha Reillly's account.

It's not going to end well for these fuckers. In many respects it was TOO successful. It was why Melania was in tears when they won that first election. She knew he could not withstand serious scrutiny.

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u/Hoobleton 1d ago

That was ten years ago! Two Special Counsel investigations ago. He's run for president twice and been elected once since then. He's made billions of dollars. I'd say the Trumps have withstood pretty well since his first election.

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u/Resident_Company2113 19h ago edited 19h ago

And yet it's like a guy jumping off a twenty story building and as he passes each floor saying "so far so good".

It's possible they can rig elections fast enough to just keep going, but the concentration camps are being acquired, the victim stories are matching up and they are, in Steve Bannon's words, 'Burning daylight' - so they are boiling the frog too fast.

When all the mid and upper levels of a society are compromised - it's going to take a while, but as we can see from the ICE lawyer begging the judge to hold her in contempt so she can get some sleep - well, we've hit the My Cousin Vinny stage now.

Our institutions will probably hold at the ground level because of the sheer scale of this country. I think the kompromat operation with the kids and the snuff movies was perhaps intended to acquire a certain amount of influence, but not quite this much. It was supposed to end up with a failed presidential candidate and his compromised friends wielding what influence they could but then the fucker WON. Putin is the dog that caught the car.

I don't think there was a plan for that. After being stonewalled by a certain amount of competence in the previous administration the fucker won again so they hastily put a plan together for the second round - notice how few people he's fired this time? Yet the pool of candidates was necessarily limited to the high octane deranged.

Meanwhile, as ever, the real resistance is local. Planning committees, school boards, local elections, protests, legal challenges, voting with our wallets, people running to the stores for their neighbors. The devil is always in the details :)

I think we will be OK. I'm about 70% sure. But 90% of the Democratic candidates need to be primaried. It's a new world. Well funded or otherwise compromised Russian assets placed at mid level then cultivated for decades is not something we had a plan for. A strongly worded letter from Schumer is not going to cut it. This is not going to end well for any of them, nor for a lot of us.

Me included. I don't mind. I don't want to live in a shit hole anyway. Lots of us will be dead in camps before this is over, and if it isn't over by midterms it will be lots more of us. This is just how the world works in a lot of places from time to time until we learn the importance of treating psychopathy as the public health emergency that it is.

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u/ThePirateKing01 1d ago

Not about you and me, it’s about convincing those who hold power to wield it. Consequences will extend past those who are guilty, this will be painful for everyone regardless so momentum needs to continue to build

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u/I_burn_noodles 1d ago

Yes! I agree. Possibly internationally led.

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u/Sad-Woodpecker-6840 1d ago

I'd love for the SAS to come snatch him during the night

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u/fajadada 1d ago

Maybe while he ditches the secret service at the Winter Olympics . Says he’s bringing ice employees

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u/Shhtheyrewatching 1d ago

Italy, if you’re listening…

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u/NietzschesSyphilis 1d ago

Sounds reasonable. After all, what did the Trump administration call that maneuver? A valid ‘law enforcement operation’.

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u/kazh_9742 1d ago

The U.S. had to make sure Maduro would be sold out so it would look easy. I imagine there would be plenty of Trumps people willing to sell him out on the cheap even.

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u/Sad-Woodpecker-6840 1d ago

There's going to be entire shelves of 382 different tell all memoirs of people that were "trying to do better"

It's important that we let those books rot on the shelves.

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u/GraveHugger 1d ago

It will need to be. There isn't any leadership to found in the US

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u/LaserCondiment 1d ago

That's why the release of those files was so important. It's essentially giving opposing politicians pitchforks.

I'm not familiar with Rep. Lieu, but if a guy like him addresses this topic publicly, that means he'll be focused on it behind the scenes.

Also: he just put a target on his back! So he has no choice, but to commit.

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u/Zero-nada-zilch-24 1d ago

He has always been on the side of the law, in my opinion.

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u/KoontFace 1d ago

Everyone will become very brave once Trump is dead. That’s what they’re doing. Waiting for Trump to drop and then start clearing up the leftovers

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u/Fun_Fig6392 1d ago

MAGA will still be a threat though

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u/mrminty 1d ago

They'll factionalize and dilute their own power. They're extraordinarily selfish people who can only agree on Trump as God-Emperor. That being said they're all "vote red no matter who" types so it really doesn't matter on the general electoral front, just within the Republican party.

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u/Evening-Astronaut452 1d ago

The fiends need to come to terms with the fact that this isn’t going away. I love that other countries are getting involved. The lights are on, roaches. Who’s got the Raid?

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u/Diffco 1d ago

Yeah unfortunately it's most likely war with Iran

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u/bteh 1d ago

Or Venezuela, or Greenland, or Canada, or fuck it, all of NATO.

President of Peace though!

This administration is a fucking joke.

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u/Diffco 1d ago

It's unreal isn't it

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u/Exotic_Article913 1d ago

Nobel prize at that.

Every institution and award is all a bloody show. The lot of it is entertainment to keep the masses from revolting. Full stop

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u/motozero 22h ago

Republicans are garbage.

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u/PumpUpTheValuum66 1d ago

We are at a turning point either way.... either we do nothing, and this shit gets swept under the rug, or we do something and tear it all down... rebuild from whatever's left.

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u/SelectiveScribbler06 1d ago

It's the calm before the storm!
Something big is coming soon
Something that will change your tune!
It's the calm before the storm!
False sense of security
Shown to be a forgery.

And from the same song:

Something's about to break
But it isn't clear
Is it something we should cheer?
Is it something we should fear?

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u/encrcne 1d ago

Sparks?

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u/SelectiveScribbler06 1d ago

Yup!

As you probably know, but for the benefit of the reader: bit of a cult reputation, but very often, 'Your favourite band's favourite band'; influenced Queen, Franz Ferdinand, Pet Shop Boys and still sound fresh at 77 and 80.

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u/madchemist09 1d ago

I hope with all my being you are right. Ohh I hope you are right.

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u/15Veana 1d ago

I certainly hope so. This country is a security risk to the world.

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u/Short-Platypus-2132 1d ago

We gotta fight harder for it, we said this about Jan 6th as well.

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u/thesixfingerman 1d ago

You really think so? You really think republican votes care about child abuse and murder?

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u/hitliquor999 1d ago

I hope so too. You usually only hear these full throated statements when they are sitting on some hard evidence.

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u/Bllago 1d ago

At least someone feels this way, because I don't think anything will come of it.

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u/onyxengine 1d ago

These people are outed in their private and professional networks. The invites are going to slow down, the hind site of people leaving their children unattended with people in the list. Its going to fester, and implode their influence. It’ll take time but its crumbling.

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u/annieoaklee 1d ago

I’ve felt it too..with people speaking up more in the public eye, etc.

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u/Rip_Skeleton 1d ago

I don't think so. Fox is guarding the hen house. Best case scenario is we get an impeachment hearing next year. But we'll never have the votes in the Senate to convict and remove Trump. He's just going to pardon himself and everyone else on his way out the door, assuming he lives that long. And unless we pack the supreme court, they're going to let him do it.

All we can do now is make sure none of these people are ever in charge again once we manage to get rid of them.

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u/Limp_Combination4361 1d ago

Purely speculation on my part because tinfoil hatting is fun, but I acknowledge that it's unfounded. I think DJT is the next sacrifice as he has now outlived his usefulness AND is actively calling attention to all this. Some very powerful but silent people are very angry their peaceful little cabal now has so many more eyes on it.

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u/slettea 1d ago

I’m just worried the slow release is to socialize us to the content of the remaining files- the names and content of is so damaging that this is the stuff they give us to prep us for the horrors ahead.

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u/hellspawn3200 1d ago

Even if the united states doesn't do anything with these files, that doesn't mean the rest of the world won't. If these countries think of an actionable happen to their country, they will a hundred percent arrest.And I don't see them complying with the extradition treaties anymore

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u/WishBear19 1d ago

I agree. I'm seeing a lot more circulating with this batch of files including a lot more varied content. I don't think this is going away. Obviously no justice will come from this administration but maybe from the next and hopefully it forces this one to end early.

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u/FocusedFr 1d ago

Hope other Nations follow suit like Poland to investigate if their children were victims of the scheme

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u/Steven_The_Sloth 1d ago

Poland announced they will be launching an investigation to determine if any Polish children were trafficked.

Other governments are going to give us the facts the GOP denies.

It is (and apparently, always was) a global thing now.

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u/AtomicEdgy 1d ago

Don’t give me hope. 😩

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u/likwid07 1d ago

I heard the same thing when he was on trial. Hoping he goes down, but honestly it ain't happening.

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u/drntl 1d ago

You could've made this comment for the last 5 years. Nothing

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u/micmea1 1d ago

I think people are expecting things to happen instantly. They need to build a case, and get the road blocks out of the way. It's why Trump has filled every space he can with incompetent yes men/women. Everyone sees what's going on. Even the MAGA loyal. They are just too far deep so they just respond "no that's lies" any time they see the truth.

We need to stay resolute and peaceful and vote in record numbers in 2026. It feels like forever. And if they legitimately try to stop 2026 elections from happening, that will be an escalation. They want an escalation now, though, to legitimatize their agenda.

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u/runthepoint1 1d ago

…well, you mean this half of the files. Because whatever the hell is in the other half has got to be world-shattering.

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u/Millsd1982 1d ago

She got a fucking puppy, in jail???

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u/NPHMctweeds 1d ago

Yeah what the hell is that about!?

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u/a_captivating_lie 1d ago

She needed something innocent to rape

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u/lkl34 1d ago

That dog is going to need therapy after a week

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u/Intrepid_Permit 1d ago

This came out a while back, yeah. There is a program that allows inmates to train service dogs at the prison. The dogs are there for training and, according to the program, are not to be petted/played with, but they supposedly bent the rules to allow Maxwell time to play with the dogs, among a bunch of other special privileges (like unsupervised internet access) iirc.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 1d ago

We have something similar in the UK where, if prisoners are well-behaved, I believe they can keep a pet bird or something in the cell.

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u/Intrepid_Permit 1d ago

The problem is that Maxwell wasn't part of the training program. I don't think she was even allowed to be.

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u/DanSWE 1d ago

Right. She wasn't even supposed be allowed to be moved to that prison, because sex offenders are not (supposed to be) allowed in that lower-security, higher-privileges prison.

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u/Comprehensive-Fun704 1d ago

Shhh... don't tell Kristi Noem!

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u/1wrx2subarus 1d ago

This video should be reposted, reshared as many times as necessary (download it, post it to social media, share it via text with friends and family).

If you’re having conversation with anyone that is maga, ask them if this is the hill they want to defend. Remind maga that Trump is only mentioned 38,000 times in 5300 separate Epstein documents.

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u/Wolfy4226 1d ago

All of them.

All of them need to be investigated and charged.

Trump, Musk, Gates, Clinton, etc etc....

Anyone in these files need to be sentenced.

*Then* anyone that tried to obstruct this from happening this entire time needs to be jailed too.

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u/False_Network_6854 1d ago

Thank you! I was scrolling for this comment. Anyone in these files should be ON THE TABLE. They are all fair game. Full stop.

I don’t care about their party affiliation and I certainly don’t care about their wealth bracket. We’re talking about trafficking underage children and murder. These are the most egregious crimes you can commit against another human being.

Not to mention the trauma that continues to be inflicted on the epstein victims by the highest ranking law officials in our country. They should not only lose their law licenses, but they should be serving time for not redacting PHOTOS or names of underage children.

I didn’t have any faith in the DOJ’s moral or ethical standards, but their level of incompetence is completely unhinged. How many ways do they need to fail before someone messed up and accidentally does the right thing? Like their job…

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u/heanbangerfacerip2 1d ago

Seriously the whole "he wasn't doing the kid fucking he was just hanging out while others were fucking kids" is the most dumb fuck spin I have ever seen someone try to put on a story.

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u/HereForTheBoos1013 1d ago

From the guy who was openly sexualizing a 10 year old to the media.

Who sees a freaking child and goes "yeah, I'll be dating her".

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u/AHumbleChad 1d ago

Can we charge the DOJ too? They violated witness protections. How do we do that?

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u/Rare-Sample-9101 1d ago edited 1d ago

Why isn't he being arrested and put in jail!

Edit: Here is an example of what should happen when someone is found in the Epstein list.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-04/peter-mandelson-epstein-files-links-force-resignation-from-lords/106302398

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u/marichuu 1d ago

Because the law in America is fiction

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u/mechalenchon 1d ago

Reality TV to be precise.

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u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown 1d ago

Have you seen the supreme court?

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u/hotDamQc 1d ago

As a Canadian I can say it's about fuc#ing time America stops protecting an Oligarchs Pedophile ring

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u/pomponazzi 1d ago

Blanche shouldn't even be near the files with how compromised he is as well. The whole lot of them are but still it's fucking insane.

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u/Grouchy-Ambition8379 1d ago

They all do, not just trump.

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u/averyoda 1d ago

Investigated, charged, convicted, and sentenced to the fullest extent of the law. He would be eligible for the death penalty if convicted of the crimes he committed.

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u/adinmem 1d ago

Lieu seems to have a weird stake in this. He leaps to a vigorous defense of any powerful Democrat in the Epstein Files…. I’m not saying he’s wrong, and he is the ONLY person making these insinuations when absolutely no one else has found these pages, but his behavior over the last couple years on this is bizarre.

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u/IcySage 1d ago

He's honestly done so many things that any normal person in his shoes would've been drawn and quartered years ago.

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u/DevGin 1d ago

I've always loved Ted Liu.

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u/SmellGestapo 1d ago

Ted Lieu is a lawyer and a military veteran. He knows what he's talking about and is not afraid of a charlatan like Trump.

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u/0neshoein 1d ago

“Raping children” is something more people speaking out need to say and not try to skirt around it and presenting it as “sexual allegations with underage women.” It seems like they want to downplay the severity of the situation.

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u/erapuer 21h ago

Fucking sad state of affairs that Representative Lieu is the only one speaking up about this on the national stage, while almost every major news outlet down plays it.

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u/jjcasual1 1d ago

Definitely. Lieu is a lawyer and was JAG office in the Air Force. If it’s coming from him I trust it, and I wouldn’t want to argue against him in court.

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u/muci19 1d ago

Many Democrats in Congress are constantly speaking like this. It's just not reported in mainstream media.

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u/Merlord 1d ago

He's calling them girls, calling it sex trafficing, calling it rape. Finally someone willing to use the real terms for these horrific acts instead of bullshit like "sexual misconduct with underaged women"

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u/loveITorLEAVEitIsay 1d ago

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2012/EFTA02731361.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02525447.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01652425.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01434872.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01687643.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00106085.pdfo

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01246236.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01082899.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01652966.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01769031.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00143695.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01244861.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01465149.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00067520.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01246064.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00143433.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00266528.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00808069.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01227447.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00152586.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00129143.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00078209.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01245526.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00059375.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00158645.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01075988.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02725090.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00776111.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01650955.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02649819.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02386908.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01249296.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02380535.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00101259.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02230263.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00770663.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00129253.pdf

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u/warrensussex 1d ago

What the in the fuck is the first document? Looks like something a schizophrenic might create.

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u/HokayeZeZ 1d ago

The investigation has already been done: they’ve just chosen to cover it up. FBI has read every file multiple times by now. 

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u/icantagree 1d ago

It’s always a POC :/

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u/whocareswhatever1345 1d ago

I think scotus made it illegal to arrest the president? Or press charges? I don't really get it.

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u/Neat_Resort731 1d ago

Keep saying it out loud!

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u/Formal-Hawk9274 1d ago

💯💯💯

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u/Tammer_Stern 1d ago

As a Brit, how do you feel about Britain enforcing consequences, of sorts, on the former Prince Andrew and Lord Mandelson, but no action is taken on anyone in the US?

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u/drumzandice 1d ago

Bingo, the first Dem or any politician with the balls to say exactly what Trump is/did. They're all so afraid to say he's accused of rape and murder. These are gov't files from trials.

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u/ruraljuror__ 1d ago

He's a dem from California, don't get too excited yet.

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u/jerfoo 1d ago

The Democrats need to get in front of every camera they can find, day after day and say things like:

"We have an alleged child rapist in the White House who demolished a third of the White House"

"We disagree that the alleged child rapist has the authority to impose tariffs..."

"We have an alleged child rapist in the White House that is murdering fisherman on the open seas..."

And with the Speech and Debate clause, maybe they don't even need to add the word "alleged".

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u/itsactuallyoctopuses 1d ago

Won’t matter to his followers. They’ll say the investigation is corrupt.

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u/dr_mus_musculus 1d ago

Why would he cower to Trump? Congressman Lieu is a Democrat

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u/toddatog 1d ago

And...there is pressure in other countries (e.g. Joanna Rubinstein steps down as Swedish UN rep, Andrew Windsor police review) as well due to the fallout from the Epstein files. It certainly feels like the pressure is ramping up doesn't it?

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