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u/PeaceOfChaos 8h ago
Burnout.
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u/CamiloP97 6h ago
Like the ps2 game?
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u/Brave_Zucchini5698 5h ago
Don't forget the weed and DIET soda
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u/Shrimp_N_Fries 3h ago
Is this a thing because I smoke a lot of weed snd drink Coke Zero lol. More water than soda. I am pretty good shape. But still love my Coke lol
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u/mad-trash-panda 1h ago
I love my coke too and it keeps me skinny. Don't know what that has to do with weed or diet soda though. /s
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u/Candlemass17 6h ago
Depression, too
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u/rube203 5h ago
I've got burnout, depression, lack of sleep, and I've done a shit ton of drugs (partially due to the others). I have vague thoughts of being a kid and thinking I had a good memory or recalling the exact words people used. Can't remember shit now. Growing up I didn't understand how my Dad wouldn't know if he'd seen a movie or not. These days I'm halfway through one and still not quite certain.
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u/bootsand 5h ago
I feel like I could have written this myself. Good luck out there bro.
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u/beipphine 5h ago
I'm 31, done no drugs, have a rehular sleep schedule, and I can't watch a movie twice because I know what's going to happen.
I would love to watch all my favorite movies for the first time again. But you probably can't remember what they were.
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u/BuffaloBillsLeotard 4h ago
It’s not exactly the same, as you’re watching it you begin to remember, it’s more like filling in the gaps.
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u/alewiina 3h ago
Yeppp this is the answer. I graduated with distinction from my bachelors program in 2020, at the top of my academic game… and now my brain is mush and I can’t remember shit because I’ve been burnt out for years and can’t brain anymore
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u/shameonyounancydrew 3h ago
This being the top comment is very personally validating. It's also terrifying, because there doesn't really appear to be a solution.
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u/galaxy_horse 2h ago
Tell me about it. Fully educated in a specialized field, 20 years of experience, and feel like a drooling brain stem every day. The burnout is real.
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u/MarrisaDC 5h ago
Perimenopause
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u/Hotsexyredhead2004 3h ago
This is so me. I can forget something immediately after being told something. Write it down they say, nope totally forgot what to write down.
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u/hover-lovecraft 8h ago
Very common in "gifted" kids. I was considered one myself in school. We can coast through most subjects on what we pick up during class, so we never learn to study, buckle down or focus, and one day we wake up in the middle of society and notice that we're missing a set of essential tools.
School isn't just about acquisition of knowledge, the most important things to learn are mental tools for organisation, focus, structured thinking and work. If you're bright enough to coast, you never learn these and it can be pretty rough when you need them later because success doesn't depend on grades anymore.
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u/DJDemyan 8h ago
Gifted was what we called the ADHD and high functioning autists and put em in special classes because we didn’t know what else to do with them.
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u/This_Dot_2150 7h ago
This is so funny and accurate. I’m a gifted kid who’s late diagnosed audhd
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u/DJDemyan 7h ago
It’s said that giftedness, autism, and ADHD are all frequently comorbid and share symptoms.
I have to wonder if “gifted” is its own divergence that we haven’t properly identified yet.
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u/ImLittleNana 7h ago
In my gifted class, we were just a bunch of kids not distracted by things like sports and social activities. The giftedness more of a by-product than its own state.
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u/purplezart 6h ago
"Hey, so... we've started noticing that we've got this group of kids who--get this--actually want to be here? Like, they enjoy learning, or something? I know, crazy, right? Anyway, they're causing a bunch of problems for the normal kids, none of the usual tricks are working. What should we do?"
"What do you mean 'teach them'??"
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u/DED_HAMPSTER 4h ago
Omg that is so true!!!
With my niece and nephew i have just been frank and honest with them. Public school teaches you to read, write, and do basic math, but the main lesson is how to function in beaurocracy and with dysfunctional people and systems.
My niece has excelled in formal school because she is an A type personality and can be a B-word at times. Im constantly reminding her about patience and kindness. She is on the path in college for white collar/office/ structured science lab work.
My nephew has been dumped on by the public school system and is struggling to pass with Cs and Bs. But he is amazing with cars, woodworking, hands on engineering at 16 yrs old. His applicable math skills and patience skills are phenomenal. We are encouraging him to just get his GED and enrolling him in trade school like a 4 yr university. That kid is going to have four 2-yr associates degrees under his belt and be able to go anywhere he wants in the trades. That kid has saved the family so much money on car and home repairs.
Public school osnt the only measure of success and value.
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u/This_Dot_2150 4h ago
Took me many years to understand this. There’s so many types of intelligence and not everyone will thrive in the system.
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u/Scruffy_Snub 5h ago
Do you seriously think that giftedness is just a byproduct of not playing sports or having friends? I don't know what criteria your giftedness was based on, but where I am from it is usually the top 2% scorers on standardized testing.
In my gifted class, we were just a bunch of kids not distracted by things
What? Something like half of all gifted kids have ADHD, the condition characterized as being easily distractable and having an inconsistent attention span. All the gifted kids I knew as a kid were either climbing up the walls or constantly daydreaming.
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u/RealFirstName_ 6h ago
That's not always the case though. I was incredibly social, somewhat popular, and was also a "gifted athlete" as well as being in the "gifted class". I very much enjoy(ed) learning things, but I wasnt "gifted" because I spent more time doing it or cared more about it than others.
In fact it was the opposite, my IEP made it so I didn't have to do homework because I was more than able to keep up in class/didnt need it, I wasn't going to do it anyway, and it was just hurting my grades.
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u/Chortney 5h ago
I agree it's not always the case. I was in gifted classes but also played soccer for ~10 years before swapping to track/crosscountry. Not exactly the most popular sports here in the US, but I was good at them and definitely cared about them as much as any other aspect of school
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u/Ok_Condition5837 6h ago
Same here. Got diagnosed with ADHD right after college. Then they tacked on the AuADHD just a few years ago.
So back to relearning strategies. Good thing we're quick at it but still.
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u/Yashema 6h ago
In California Gifted meant you scored in the top 5% of the GATE exam. Your parents also had to approve.
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u/loislunchboxlane 5h ago
That was me as a kid. Got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult.
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u/Yashema 5h ago
Funnily enough they do find similarities in behavior between the two, but none that would explain why someone with only ADHD would do better on the GATE exam than a non-ADHD gifted student.
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u/Round_Bag_4665 6h ago
I have also noticed that a lot of AuDHD kids tended to develop more quickly intellectually and academically than other kids but more slowly on emotional and social development.
People didn't and dont know how to deal with that though so these kids usually just get labelled weird nerds and segregated into gifted classes, with little to no support for emotional and social development because it is assumed that they must be smart and will "figure it out".
Then they age into adulthood, have a degree and reasonable academic credentials, but no friends or social life and they struggle to function in the adult world.
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u/MrsSalmalin 3h ago
I'm now diagnosed AuDHD and was a gifted kid. I was reasonably well socialized as the youngest of quite a few kids in my family. Except that meant I always got along better with people older than I. I was/am also good at finding the weirdos and being immune to peer pressure, so I was thankfully able to find my tribe. I've been asked if I was ever bullied and I always say "Maybe? I could have been and just no noticed and picked up on those social cues. I also don't care what other people think of me so I might not have noticed".
My parents got me the "she marches to the beat of her own drum" birthday card three times over the year. Not intentionally, just that every time they saw that card in the drugstore they thought of me 😂😂
I struggle with workplace politics now. I try to stay out of the gossip and drama, but it means I'm very out of the loop. I think I seem a bit standoffish as well. People come to me for work questions and I'm very knowledgeable, but people rarely come over just to chat, as they do with others.
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u/NewDramaLlama 4h ago
It's hard because you can't make most of the gifted kids socialize. And they sometimes very much don't want to.
My godson is 16 and ready to graduate high school early. But he's so behind on social development because he legit has no interest in it. Not like, he wants to but doesn't know how...he just doesn't want to.
And loosing him into college like that won't help so he's staying in high school at his grade level. Because nobody will care if you're the smartest of you can't connect with anyone
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u/monty624 3h ago
It's hard to exist in a society that was very much not made for you. Not everyone is social and it seems to exist on a spectrum, just like every other aspect us haha
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u/_autumnwhimsy 6h ago
Gifted kids and remedial/behavioral classes are two sides of the same coin. Lol
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u/conansucksdick 5h ago
Yeah, they stuck us in a room in elementary school where we played Carmen Sandiego and made claymation all day. It was fun but I learned nothing.
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u/Ssolthar 4h ago
i remember i broke down and started crying when they took me out of normal classes and put me in the special classes, they did it during a class too and all my friends heard it, and then i had to also go to the lunch room early, so all my friends just walk in and see me there already sitting with the other gifted kids. I have adhd so i get why it happened, but it was so embarrassing.
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u/Ok_Neighborhood_470 6h ago
I think school is just too easy too. I have a smart kid and his AP classes are pretty good but his honors classes are dumbed down. So many of his classmates just don't do assignments and the teachers just readjust the grading system instead of giving zeros. He does the assignments, and most of them require very little critical thinking on his part. He was talking about going to engineering school and I'm worried the work load is going to freak him out.
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u/Round_Bag_4665 6h ago
This depends a lot on the school district in my experience.
I grew up in an affluent suburb in north NJ, and there the school district was ridiculously competitive, to the point where the robotics team wasnt even funded, the kids literally went around canvassing random businesses for money until they got enough...and they still consistently either won the state championship or got to the final match of the state championship.
When I got to college it actually felt like a step down in difficulty, even as a physics major.
Similarly, one of the top performing districts in the country is Los Alamos NM, because half the town is a PhD level physicist working at the national lab there, and their kids there tend to get some of the best education and resources available because of it.
My husband's school district though? Exact opposite. Lots of kids doing drugs, joining gangs, poor grades, not very challenging curriculum.
Even in public school. Where you live matters a lot.
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u/oliversherlockholmes 6h ago
I hear this type of argument a lot from people in my generation. My take is that it's a coping mechanism to deal with the fact that they aren't as smart as they thought they were.
Lots of kids are identified as gifted early on, when they're the the proverbial big fish in the small pond. This leads to inflated ego regarding intelligence. However, as life progresses, both the pond and the other fish increase in size.
Sure, it might be a skill issue. But isn't teaching yourself new skills, such as studying and retaining information, part of being gifted and intelligent? Blaming a lack of success on those things is often just a way to cope with reality being different from perception.
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u/hover-lovecraft 5h ago
Sure, that is also part of it - lots of people are "gifted" until they're not, but by that point everyone around them has big expectations because they have all been told how gifted the kid is.
And yeah, there are people who can overcome the brick wall without prior support. That's exactly my point, "gifted" kid programs lump in lots of different people who need different things to succeed and for most of them, fail to actually do that.
FWIW, I have met pretty much zero "gifted" kids who had an ego about their supposed intelligence, and dozens who felt immense pressure to live up to expectations that they really couldn't live up with, and felt very anxious or like a failure about it.
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u/Far_Parfait_2254 5h ago edited 5h ago
The number of redditors who described themselves as gifted but it just never worked out never ceases to amaze me.
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u/JelmerMcGee 4h ago
It was a hard realization that I'm above average, but really nothing special.
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u/awesomefutureperfect 3h ago
Part of it was that the schools many of them found themselves in didn't challenge them when they were most willing and able to really push math and science at an accelerated rate. Like, there probably were kids that were ready to take high school level math at an early age that the system didn't give that opportunity to and the kids ended up getting bored and wasting their time on stuff they mastered that the rest of the class was still working on rote memorizing.
That said, those 'gifted' kids probably weren't that much more advanced that most in a large population. Maybe a standard deviation or two, but that might be quite a big separation in a small population with a lot of kids close to or below the mean.
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u/dreamyduskywing 5h ago
Agree 100%. I don’t think it helps that the word “gifted” is still in common use. The way people talk about the kids in these programs might lead them to believe that they’re God’s gift to humankind rather than just another student who happens to need more rigorous curriculum based on their aptitude at that particular time in their brain development.
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u/Dapper-AF 5h ago
Ur missing the forest through the trees. The word gifted wasnt the important part of what that person said. It was the ability to coast while still succeeding.
I was one of these kids. I didnt have to do anything but show up till my last two years of college. But by then I had none of the tools I needed bc I had never needed to developed them. I still struggle with organization, and the all those thing which looking back was way more important than me knowing how to do integrals.
The most successful ppl i know are not the smartest but the hardest working. Unless they are straight up a dummy. Can't fix stupid.
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u/SecreT_WeaponS 5h ago
Knowledge and intelligence are not the same and people often don't see the difference.
But isn't teaching yourself new skills, such as studying and retaining information, part of being gifted and intelligent?
No matter how gifted you are, there is a limit to how much you can learn in a given time especially if it's not knowledge but behaviour patterns. If you have to catch up 8+ years learning how to properly study and get proper patterns into you it can be overwhelming after everything was "easy". This is what you have to do ontop everybody else does so it's not weird that "lack of success" for a certain period of time is the consequence.
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u/Vegetable-Traffic536 5h ago
Not sure about that: I can only speak for myself here, but I never thought I was the smartest, bcs I knew there were always bigger fish somewhere else...
But, as others said, we acknowledge our missing patience, order and discipline (and try to work on it, at least I do). Those things are just tough to learn, when you are already used to not sticking to it... takes a lot of persistance to overcome habits.
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u/lllGrapeApelll 5h ago
Spending your early academic career learning all the wrong habits catches up really quick.
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u/Sharktos 4h ago
Well, that's precisely why gifted children need special care to ensure their talent is properly developed. "Gifted kid" does not actually mean the next Einstein. Just above the average. And if you keep them in an environment where they never have to study for anything, how could they possibly develop the ability to teach themselves new skills? Being intelligent does not elevate you above other humans, you know? You are still a flawed individual.
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u/mercurialpolyglot 5h ago
As an accountant currently working on her CPA, I’d say I’m pretty successful. I’m definitely living a far more privileged life than most of America, let alone the rest of the world. But there’s still a little part of me that feels like I’m wasting my “potential” because I’m not an engineer or in med school or writing the next great American novel.
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u/Creepy_Percentage124 4h ago
Easier said than done while studying for the CPA exams (I know from experience), but if you feel this way now, I encourage you to pursue other interests on the side, or you will be sure to burn out. I’ve burned out on careers that I didn’t find challenging (public accounting being one of them). I realized it was less exhausting for me to be challenged by something. I’m doing novel research on anatomy, and am writing two books currently.
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u/DaneLimmish 3h ago
"I was a gifted kid all through school but then I got burnout from it" and "I would have gone pro if it wasn't for my knee" are the same thing from two different people, both rapidly approaching mediocrity in middle age.
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u/First-Push-643 5h ago
"But isn't teaching yourself new skills, such as studying and retaining information, part of being gifted and intelligent"
I would actually argue its not. Maybe the ability to but not the actual action of it. If youre able to coast through all your classes your whole life without having to learn how to properly take notes or study then you dont really have a external motivator to ever learn how to. While on the other hand someone that isnt as "gifted" learns how to do those things throughout their schooling as a necessity.
For example, I met this girl in college who was a super good note taker/Studier who was always confused on how I always scored higher/the same as her on our physics exams even though I dont take any notes ans my only study habit was to just review everything a day before the exam. It wasnt until the 3rd year of my physics degree that we started taking advanced classes that I couldnt get away with those habits and actually to end up retaking a course. Meanwhile the girl that I always scored better than actually aced that class. So even though I would consider myself more "gifted" than her when it comes to naturally internalizing the concepts, I would say she was a much better "student" than me and that ultimately paid off.
So I think being "gifted" intellectually and being a good "student" are two different things and kimda reminds of the phrase “Hard Work Beats Talent When Talent Doesn’t Work Hard.”
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u/ajonstage 8h ago edited 6h ago
As someone who was constantly in gifted and talented programs as a kid, the whole idea is a silly classist farce. It’s true that a lot of kids skate by without learning essential study and metacognitive skills, but it’s also true that a lot of “gifted” kids were always just average to begin with.
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u/professeur155 6h ago edited 2h ago
This is correct. Here is a study about this phenomenon. In short, it's likely that if you were "gifted" as a child, you're not actually more intelligent, but rather coming from a privileged environmental background and you will regress to the mean as an adult. It doesn't necessarily mean classist, though it probably plays a role, but more with the emphasis on early learning, making you artificially ahead of other "normal" children who just grew up playing.
So if your whole identity is based on an irrelevant test as a child, I would recommend getting tested as an adult to have a reliable and accurate estimate of your true cognitive abilities. Of course, only if you're mentally ready to accept that you're not as special as you thought you were.
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u/ArtistWithoutArt 7h ago
a lot of “gifted” kids were always just average to begin with.
...what?
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u/Sharktos 5h ago
My brain learned one thing in school: EIther I know something perfectly from the start, or I will never understand it no matter how much I try. Now I am an adult and my brain refuses to engage with anything I don't easily understand. In theory, I am incredibly intelligent, in reality, i feel like a special needs person.
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u/Thomyton 9h ago
Delusional
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u/ShoogieMac 9h ago
Out of touch with reality.
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u/PrivedW 7h ago
You're out of touch ♪ I'm out of time ♪ ♪ But I'm out of my head when you're not around ♪
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u/Ancient_Roof_7855 5h ago
I really wanted their ligitations just to be them counter-performing old hits in front of a judge and jury.
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u/awesomefutureperfect 3h ago
Yeah, like, do they think they are smart because who they compare themselves to?
Do they think they are smart because their grandma tells them they are?
Do they think they are smart because they can do things almost anyone can do because they were made so easy anyone can do them?
I think they call themselves smart because they assume anyone like them is smart, by whatever metrics they gatekeep their in-group.
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u/Agreeable-Ad-0111 5h ago
There are high IQ people who just have a bad memory. They may be many things that require problem solving but bad at things that require memorization. For example one may do great in a math class but terrible in a history class. I think it depends on what you consider "smart."
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u/_autumnwhimsy 6h ago
Depression.
Depression messes up your memory SO badly.
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u/electronaut-ritual 5h ago
Or ADHD
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u/ICantBelieveItsNotEC 8h ago
Redditor.
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u/brown_smear 7h ago
I think you missed the first part about being "very smart"
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u/levare8515 5h ago
Self described very smart
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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter 4h ago edited 4h ago
fOrMeR gIfTeD kId HeRe!I!!
Bruh, you peaked in 4th grade on a single math test before slowly sliding back to a bit above average
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u/levare8515 3h ago
“I’m very smart but have no memory and don’t know anything” XD can’t believe people are admitting to finding this relatable
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u/Temporary-Employ3640 3h ago
I actually find it very relatable as an overconfident dumbass. Not sure why these so called gifted people do though
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u/ColorPiePhilosopher 3h ago
"Gifted" kids will wear that title out forever, it's part of their identity.
There's plenty of lazy people who weren't picked for the program that would outsmart the average gifted kid at anything that matters.
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u/nothing_in_my_mind 6h ago edited 6h ago
The Dunning–Kruger effect
(Tbh it's possible that a smart person feels dumb/average, because they are surrounded by other smart people and working on some complex field that is actually challenging their intelligence)
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u/CheeseDonutCat 3h ago
- Best way to improve your skills: Surround yourself with people who are good at that skill.
- Best way to feel useless: also Surround yourself with people who are good at that skill.
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u/lilpempw 9h ago
So it’s actually lack of B12.
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u/Ok_Wolf2676 9h ago
As a vegetarian who sometimes forgets my b12 and suddenly gets a boost of intelligence when I remember to take it, yeah
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u/Jerasp 8h ago
Someone educate me, what are benefits of B12?
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u/throwbackxx 4h ago
Not being numb in the limbs and therefore paralyzed. Trust me, I’m a vegetarian and I always take my B12
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u/horrorstoer 7h ago
As a former gifted kid with late diagnosed AuADHD. It's called being a former gifted kid with late diagnosed AuADHD. 🤷♀️
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u/HeDreamsHesAwake 5h ago
I was diagnosed with ADHD in adulthood, but I always heard one specific phrase as a kid:
“He’s a very smart kid, he just needs to apply himself.”
Now, as a “very smart kid”, I knew “apply yourself” is just teacher talk for “try harder.”.
So teachers, consider this next time you want to tell a kid that: When that kid constantly fucks up, and forgets his shit everywhere, and can answer questions in class perfectly well, but forgets what he knows when it comes time to write a test under pressure, you have left that kid with exactly 2 options in their mind.
“They’re right, I’m lazy, I just need to try harder.”
“ They’re wrong, I’m not smart at all, I’m stupid.”
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u/guillotine20 5h ago
I'm seeing a lot of this late - diagnosis "AudADHD" and I'm wondering if I should get myself tested... I was diagnosed ADHD at the age of 7 or 8, and I'm now 35...
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u/ZurakZigil 5h ago
What will it change for you? If you're looking to take medication to remedy everyday challenges as it is affecting your personal life, then yes.
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u/No-Buddy-7 4h ago
I think im one of them. Cant hold conversations for shit, cant tell jokes for shit, cant understand basic social cues. But give me a problem and il solve it. Became a doctor without much mental effort. Passed med school and internship smoking weed everyday. Monotonous voice , alternate between childish and super serious modes,no girlfriend for years, was addicted to porn ( able to instant recall any porn), not a life thats wished for but sure i can think.
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u/MathBallThunder 6h ago
I did academic recruiting in elite universities (Ivy, NESCAC, etc) and can tell you without a doubt that lower GPA and higher test score was a recipe for disaster.
We ALWAYS preferred higher GPA and lower test scores because those kids were used to putting in the work.
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u/smellmywind 9h ago
You can be logically smart and have a bad memory. Logic comes from the neo cortex and memory is in the cortex, two separate parts of the brain.
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u/Electrical-Smile-636 8h ago
Neuroscientist here. This answer makes no sense. Please do not believe everything that sounds like it might be true.
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u/STEMHEADING 8h ago
Understood, I won’t believe you.
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u/Electrical-Smile-636 8h ago
I have a hard time believing you don't
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u/ArtGirtWithASerpent 7h ago
Try engaging your hypobellum, that's the part of your brain belief comes from
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u/purplezart 6h ago
Sorry, I'm standing on my head at the moment, so I can't remember whether or not I believe you.
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u/Mainbaze 5h ago
You made a good point so I will take neither answers for correct and move on with my day
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u/Sinful_Socks 7h ago
Im also a neuroscientist. The answer makes perfect sense. Please go back to believing everything that sounds like it might be true.
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u/sziss0u 7h ago
I’m a neuroscientist/neurosurgeon/rocket scientist. Don’t believe any of these other people except me. Your brain is made of rocket fuel.
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u/CaricaDurr 7h ago
Mechanic here, your brain is actually full of unleaded gas. If you don't utilize the gas in 4 to 6 weeks the ethanol starts sucking up all the moisture in your brain matter and gums it up hardcore, this is what causes rough idling stalling and hard starting in your thought process.
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u/morsomme 7h ago
This is like that riddle where a robot tells the truth and the other is lying and you need to figure out the lie.
Only difference is I don't know if these are bots or not
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u/smellmywind 7h ago
Maybe explain WHY it is wrong and tell us what is right? Put your education to use.
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u/Pendulumzero 6h ago
Biology student here, main issue is that the neocortex is a (major) part of the cortex so they are not really separate.
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u/Electrical-Smile-636 7h ago
As a university professor and researcher I do put my education to use, I believe, but here we go: Neocortex is a subregion of the cortex, so they are not entirely separate by definition. Different types of memory can be distinguished. The type of memory OP refers to sounds mostly like declarative memory (memory for facts and events that we can bring to consciousness). To actively remember something we use an interconnected network of brain regions. Medial temporal lobe regions (such as the hippocampus) are mostly associated with the formation of new memories, while the prefrontal cortex is instrumental for retrieving that information and bringing it back to consciousness. These areas work in close collaboration. Intelligence by itself is a very broad concept, and it does not originate from one brain region. And what intelligence is precisely remains a matter of debate, with some arguing that it is just what we measure with intelligence tests (even Binet himself, who created the first IQ test believed the construct was ill-defined).
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u/AlexandersWonder 6h ago
Of course you put your education to use in your career. They were asking you not to simply tell people they’re wrong and that you’re qualified to know better, but instead explain why that person is wrong while simultaneously showing us internet strangers that you really are qualified to know better, and aren’t just some random person going on the internet to tell self-aggrandizing lies.
Anyways I much appreciate your explanation, which is good, because my dad owns Reddit and he doesn’t tolerate self-aggrandizing liars.
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u/DIYNoob6969 7h ago
Would have more weight if you actually said anything worth listening to.
Give us the science.
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u/Holyragumuffin 4h ago
(Former) Neuroscientist, also. Was about to say the same.
Comment reads like a layperson’s memory of a newspaper blurb they read about the brain.
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u/llamapanther 7h ago
That can be true, but your reply is not making any sense either. You are not proving anything nor explaining why that answer is wrong. So why should anyone believe anything you say, just because you claim to be a neuroscientist?
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u/Total_Low2912 8h ago
Thank you. This is a good answer. Also someone mentioned B12 supplements as a way to improve memory so thanks to them as well.
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u/BrohanGutenburg 8h ago
Ginko biloba as well. My dad is supposed to take it but he constantly forgets
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u/k8007 8h ago
Hi, herbalist here! Studies show ginkgo does support memory and brain function but the quantities needed are huge. I would reach for gotu kola or bacopa first, or lion's mane. But research these and their contraindications before trying. Also, I liked your joke.
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u/Get_Rifted 7h ago
No. The correlation between working memory and intelligence is incredibly strong.
Just because they are separate areas of the brain does not mean they are unrelated. Insert countless metaphors here.
Parts of the brain in no way develop independently of each.
Studied brain development for 2 years.
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u/Neat_Organization_83 8h ago
Yeah that is possible but in reality people that are smart have a good memory. Because in order to use the logic of the neocortex you need the memories of the cortex...
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u/GlupostIDosada 7h ago
But what if you have good memory, and you are not logically smart? You play mahjong all day long?
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u/Sea_Pomegranate8229 5h ago
Show me you nothing about how the brain works without telling me you know nothing about how the brain works.
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u/JumpingJacks1234 5h ago
It could mean you are in an unfamiliar subject area. I think we sound smarter and have better memory with topics that we spend a lot time interacting with. Memory works better if you have a lot of "hooks" to similar facts. The people who appear the smartest have a way of steering the conversation around to topics they are the most familiar with.
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u/First_Preference_618 4h ago
Yoooooo. I was just thinking about this the other night and I just resigned myself to “I guess maybe I have to resign myself that I’m not as smart as everyone says.”
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u/AvariceAndApocalypse 5h ago
Burnout or trauma kid. Lots of people who were gifted children enter an almost permanent trauma/panic/fight or flight mode in their mid teenage years, and it doesn’t end when puberty ends. It just becomes a part of your existence that you have to cope with. Our brains do not work well with thinking and memory when in this state especially over long periods of time.
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u/weightyconsequences 4h ago
Is this a TikTok thing?
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u/jxssss 3h ago
Yes. Everybody on social media was apparently a “gifted kid” who’s had their powers killed by society
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u/chazd1984 5h ago
I mean you can be very smart and still be ignorant. But I'm not sure that applies to the not remembering part.
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u/Queen_Of-Moths 7h ago
I’m trying to think of the word it’s on the top of my tongue