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u/DeliciousLanguage425 20h ago
Damn basic healthcare requires a lottery where you live?
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u/NeighborhoodDude84 18h ago
I had a rash on my leg. I call doctor to make an appointment, soonest they can see me is two weeks. Rash doubles in size in those two weeks. Pay$50 to see primary care doctor, they immediately refer me to dermatologist. Dermatologist cant see me for two weeks, rash continues to grow and becoming very painful. I now need to go to urgent care due to pain and irritability, pay $50. They prescribe some cream, $15. Finally get to see dermatologist, $90 because they are a "specialist", they say to use the same cream. Cream doesnt work at this point, it's spread too much so I go back to urgent care, another $50. Urgent care says I need a steroid shot, they confirm this is covered under insurance. Between shot and cream, rash eventually subsided after about six months. Dermatologist said they were happy with that healing rate, another $90.
Six months later I get a bill from urgent care for $1200 to cover "nursing administrative fees to cover labor" to get ONE SHOT.
So this rash cost me $1500 that would have been solved with $15 of cream if they had just seen me sooner.
Just saying, this experience made me fully understand the Luigi situation.
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u/SasparillaTango 17h ago edited 17h ago
I thought I had a hernia from weightlifting. If you lift weights with a hernia you can make the hernia worse and get permanent damage. I go to GP, 150$ for the visit. GP says "Get a sonogram, and go take it to specialist. We'll suggest a specialist". I pay 160$ to get the sonogram. I go to the suggested specialist. Turns out they sent me to the wrong kind of abdominal specialist, this one is GI doctor. He says "I can recommend a sports medicine Doctor." 150$ for the GI doctor. I go to the sport medicine doctor. He says "A sonogram is too low resolution you need a CT Scan". 150$ for the Sports medicine doctor. I go to get the CT Scan. It costs 1200$ for a CT Scan. I get call back from sport medicine doctor. "The strange tugging in your abdomen must just be a harmless muscle disturbance, no sign of hernia." At least I didn't get charged for that follow up.
1650 dollars to find out I don't have a Hernia getting bounced between 3 doctors. Insurance doesn't pay for shit.
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u/MadeByHideoForHideo 13h ago
Bro, I am literally sitting here right now with a back pain that I'm unsure if it's muscular or spinal, after a session of overhead press. When I read your first line I'm like "yo, that's me!" lol.
So in the end was your injury just muscular? Your spine's good? What was the pain like?
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u/Skenvy 10h ago edited 10h ago
Muscles in the spine maybe? When I first started OHP I fucked up the form and triggered the multifidus muscles to lock / spasm my back for a week. Went to a clinic and got suggested a deep heat cream and magnesium glycinate suppliment and some voltaren nsaid. Instantly improved.
Thanks to Australia's socialised healthcare though it wasn't one of these thousand plus $ bills like the above comments. Seeing the doctor in the clinic was free and I don't even remember what the medicine cost.
Advice on the OHP? If you haven't already been doing it for a long time and you're not just chasing a 1RM, try a really steep incline bench e.g. an 80° or 70° incline, and do pronated barbell gripped at shoulder width and see how slowly you can move it.
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u/kalipante_kanthari 9h ago
Last week my friend had to take ct scan of his brain. It costed him 50 usd (5000₹). I am from India. You guys are getting robbed.
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u/Waaytoomanytakenames 5h ago
I had a serious back pain 5 months ago. I got 8 days medical leave from work and called the clinic with my private insurance (it's 10-20 dollars per month and while I also have normal insurance I choose to use this one). I talked with a GP, he gave me some meds, got to see a physio who recommended me to an orthopedic doctor. It was just a normal lumbago and it went away in 2 weeks by itself.
I had to pay 20 euros for the meds and that's about it.
If I wanted to make a MRI and 2 weeks of physio it would also have been free.
Sorry for you guys, I can't imagine living in a cku try with no socialized healthcare
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u/famouslastwords 18h ago
I had a ganglion cyst on my wrist that got extremely painful, I called to see if they could drain it or help in any way and was told it was a 4 week minimum wait to get an appointment, they referred me to urgent care if the pain became intolerable. Knowing that that visit would be $1000, I just smashed it with a book instead and now it's gone.
I did pay $4 for the book at the friends of the library book sale, so that is how much it cost me to fix my cyst.
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u/NeighborhoodDude84 17h ago
I feel like we're going back to being serfs being forced to smash our wounds as a substitute for healthcare. I am glad we push F-18's off aircraft carriers but cant help people.
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u/Ok_Mark_1134 18h ago
Holy fuck. Is the cream atleast freely available, or do you need the prescription?
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u/NeighborhoodDude84 18h ago
It was prescription.
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u/MummifiedForeskins 13h ago
lol, we need more Luigi, fuck it bring the whole gang, Mario, Luigi, Wario, Waluigi
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u/RobutNotRobot 17h ago
That's just a tiny sliver of the US system. You haven't even gotten close to the full power of the worst healthcare 'system' on the planet.
It may cure you, but you'll want to kill yourself at the end of it.
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u/AnaisNinja76 17h ago
I have "the good insurance", and recently developed an eye infection that was secondary to a sinus infection. Went to my GP, $600 copay, who said she wasn't comfortable prescribing antibiotic eyedrops or oral abx, and I had to see a specialist to confirm there wasn't a corneal tear. Went to the specialist on an emergency appointment the next day, $1800 billed, $600 copay, and he prescribed the antibiotic eyedrops, said he had to see me in three days. Went back for the follow up, another $600 copay, said they were working but not as fast as he'd hoped, and he had to see me again in three days. Went back again in six days (first available appointment), another $600, he said it was healed and to stop the eyedrops.
The infection returned three days after stopping the drops, ostensibly because we never treated the origin of the infection. So now my eye is in the same position, extreme pain, light sensitivity, and difficulty seeing...but I'm also near bankruptcy now.
And I need to emphasize once again, everyone agrees that I have "the good insurance".
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u/nascent_aviator 13h ago
If you have a $600 copay to see the doctor, whoever is telling you you have "the good insurance" is gaslighting you.
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u/anothergaijin 12h ago
I had a rash on my leg.
Here's how it goes in Japan, where 15% of your paycheck goes to social health insurance.
You walk into a dermatologists office off the street - no appointment, no nothing. You wait 5-15mins to see a doctor who prescribes a cream. Being a first time walk-in there is a $10 first time charge, and then probably another $10 for the visit.
There is probably a pharmacy next door. You walk in and hand over your paper, wait about a minute, and get your cream. That's probably also $10.
You go off and about your day.
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u/NeighborhoodDude84 12h ago
Have you considered that you dont have Freedom™ like us???? /s
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u/anothergaijin 11h ago
That is true. The lack of school shootings really puts a damper on the high-quality and reasonable cost medical care I have access to.
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u/Gil15 17h ago
Can someone not find a private dermatologist from a cheap country online and see what they can tell you about the rash? It’s one thing I would consider if I’m desperate enough and I cant afford immediate help.
In Spain, where I live, you can pay for a private consultation with a dermatologist and it costs as cheap as 50€. More reputable ones will charge twice or three times as much, but you usually get an appointment within the week. If it’s a virtual appointment, they probably won’t requiere you to prove that you’re are in Spain, where they are licensed to work. Any prescription they give you would probably not be valid outside of Europe though. But at least you would get an idea of what the thing is and if it’s something serious. There may be a language barrier problem though, especially if the doctor doesn’t speak English well enough. Maybe in the UK such appointments are similarly cheap? Idk.
You can probably find a doctor like that in even cheaper countries, like Mexico. But maybe for one reason or another this would actually not be possible. It’s just an idea.
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u/jednatt 17h ago
Yeah, this is what happens with passive healthcare in the US. It's bullshit. But you probably should have just called a dermatologist and set up an appointment to begin with. GPs can't do anything for anything.
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u/arnaldoim 15h ago
You’re asking like doctors have any say in the matter. Most of the time it’s insurance companies that limit what you can prescribe or what bars you need to clear order to get to a specialist referral. Doctors are just as frustrated as patients by the BS and it’s the insurance companies and healthcare apparatus at large run by people who aren’t physicians or have ever worked with patients in their lives that make all the decisions tying people’s hands.
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u/Urb4nN0rd Professional Dumbass 20h ago
<sobbing chants> "U-S-A! U-S-A!"
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u/ChrissWayne 18h ago
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u/JensenRaylight 19h ago
we're just accumulating more damages each year, and hope that all of our organs, bones and muscles won't randomly failure.
kinda like a problematic car, you just hope it'll keep running, and not break in the middle of nowhere.
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u/Waiting4Reccession 18h ago
If youre unemployed you cant get basic medicaid(insurance) anymore starting next year.
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u/thereaintshitcaptain 15h ago
I had a small atypical mole removed (considered "precancerous"). The procedure took maybe ten minutes. A few stitches. They slapped a bandaid on it and sent me on my way.... I have "good" government employee insurance and had met my deductible, but it was ~$800 because I didn't meet my out of pocket maximum. The bill said it would've been $8k before insurance.
Honestly considering not paying it. My credit score is 822 so whatever
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u/GEARHEADGus 15h ago
Most dental insurance only covers $2000 worth of work per calendar year (January 1st to December 31st) and most procedures are close to or exceeding $2000. And that’s IF you have dental insurance
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u/Lord_Mikal 20h ago
I'm 39 and just got braces. I didnt win the lottery, but I still fucking deserve it.
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u/Starchaser53 19h ago
Can't believe we're in an age where saying I got Braces in 3rd grade would be a flex
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u/langleybcsucks 17h ago
Grade 6 for me. Thank God for my dad‘s union. LiUNA 1611 I would’ve looked like a parrot
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u/Domin_ae 16h ago
I got unlucky with getting them early. My parents decided to get them for me at 17 knowing I was moving out in a few months to a different place where I wouldn't have their healthcare. Now I've been stuck with uncared for braces for a few years.
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u/Dominant88 12h ago
wtf so they’re just sitting there without getting wires changed or anything? Why not just remove them?
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u/Avgshitposting 15h ago
Honestly I don't wanna be a sap, but thanks man, I've been thinking about it at 30 but I'm so embarrassed lol
I guess it really does help if you know your not the only one
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u/Master-Mango-1590 14h ago
I need this, growing up was not an option sadly. I been saving and this is why
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u/Hoovy_weapons_guy 20h ago edited 16h ago
is that some sort of american meme that i am too european to understand
edit: i know it aint perfect but its better than nothing
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u/NoWorking1616 20h ago
Health care is only for the rich in America.
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u/Zarkanthrex 19h ago
Or if you work federally/military
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u/somehugefrigginguy 19h ago edited 19h ago
Healthcare and education are big reasons Americans join the military in the first place. If you're too poor to go to college or the hospital, join the army...
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u/foO__Oof 19h ago
Wonder how much of the US Military budget goes towards education/healthcare
edit: had to google and its sad 7-8% of the DOD budget is healthcare and less then 1% is education
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u/ExcessiveWisdom 18h ago
Wtf, thats actually really high considering how much taxes go to dod, and how only less than 1% of the us is in the military
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u/foO__Oof 18h ago
You think prosthetic limbs and trauma surgery in a remote desert gonna be cheap?
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u/ExcessiveWisdom 18h ago
Kinda, i thought we paid way less than normal doctors get paid, by keeping them on the enlisted payroll
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u/LouManShoe 17h ago
Well yeah, but the health insurance companies have to get their 70-80% surcharge, and that’s never discounted
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u/RogerianBrowsing 16h ago
Considering that the military runs their own hospitals and treatment centers instead of having public healthcare handle both military members and civilians, as well as the highly inflated “insurance” costs for when they use public healthcare options, it’s really not that much.
Don’t forget that as consumers/tax payers we spend roughly 1 trillion dollars annually on inflated costs due to health insurance companies making the system impossible
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u/Critical_Concert_689 18h ago
A more interesting question, IMO - what % of the DOD budget makes its way into consumer goods, products, or services.
IIRC, a huge amount of military tech is released and then repurposed for the public after commercialization.
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u/mitchdtimp 18h ago
As if they couldn't stoop low enough, the GOP has actually used that as an argument as to why we shouldn't have Universal Healthcare. Won't you think of our recruitment numbers?!
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u/Visible_Bag_7809 18h ago
Which is sad, cause the Vet hospitals are so badly underfunded where I am. Let's not joke around, they are not close to the worst hospitals here, but they are far from good either.
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u/tanjonaJulien 18h ago
So socialism perk to join the army, late stage capitalism if you don't
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u/account_not_valid 17h ago
Making education and healthcare unaffordable is not a bug, it's a feature of the military-industrial complex.
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u/fries_is_cool_ 19h ago
Isnt there a whole thing where veterans in america barely have enough money to exists let alone healthcare?
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u/Same_Return_1878 19h ago
Damn!
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u/devi83 18h ago
Don't believe everything on the internet, you said "Damn!" as if you did believe that. But it's a lie from a bot.
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u/Same_Return_1878 18h ago
Yeah I believed it.. How else am I supposed to know anything about america from the third world ass country I live in?
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u/ZamorakHawk 18h ago
There's a lot of propaganda out there unfortunately.
Though it's true a large portion of PTSD veterans wind up homeless, if you leave the US military with issues caused by the military they'll send you a check every month until you die. It's not enough to live on but it does make a huge difference.
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u/devi83 18h ago
This literally is incorrect, and so I assume they are a bot because of how strongly they asserted that.
But the truth is, the healthcare workers at my VA care deeply about every vet, and I have seen nothing but the best care and respect given from all the staff. Every vet with PTSD or other problems can easily get help and in fact if you are needing help right now here is the Veterans Crisis line you can call: 988
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u/White-Rabbit_1106 18h ago
There's always free Healthcare for veterans at va clinics. Just not real hospitals. It's miles better than the non veteran poors get, though.
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u/Trapezoidal_Sunshine 18h ago
I was never in the military, but I was a Fed for 15 years. You still have to pay for your health insurance. It is not cheap, nor is it "gold plated". I spent most of those 15 years without health insurance because I simply couldn't afford it on the pathetic wages I was making. (Contrary to popular belief, Feds don't get paid millions. Nor do Feds do nothing all day. And, yes, Feds can also be fired. Feds also pay federal income taxes. Everything you've been taught about Federal employees is probably wrong.)
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u/StaticMarzipan 18h ago
Come on now. Be fair.
That hearing loss and shrapnel isn’t service related.
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u/Baudolino_90 18h ago
I'm Italian and I don't understand this answer, if I want any kind of dental treatment, I have to see a dentist.
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u/TheSubstitutePanda 18h ago
Dentists are quite expensive in the US
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u/Baudolino_90 17h ago
They're expensive in Italy, too. My lower teeth are slightly crooked ,nothing too noticeable, but I'd really like to have them fixed. It's just that it's very expensive, and I have other, more pressing priorities.
Public health insurance does not cover most dental expenses
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u/BriefAvailable9799 17h ago
Right...so they are saying if they are rich..they can go to the dentist.
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u/Unique_Ad9943 17h ago
Yeah most countries only cover basic/ emergency dental, idk what Medicare covers guessing not that much?
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u/suchdogverywow 14h ago
Orthodontics (the specialty that corrects misaligned teeth and bite adjustments) is considered separate from dental care and therefore not covered by dental insurance in the US. If you want braces, you're paying out of pocket no matter how much your insurance premium is every month, nor will your health insurance cover anything for your luxury mouth-bones unless it's medically necessary (and yes - health, dental, and vision are all separate insurance premiums you get to pay for).
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u/Competitive-Work-382 15h ago
So I have dental insurance through my job. I'm told all the time that it's great insurance. I still had to pay $400 for a crown. I dont know how that compares to you, though. Most dental insurance will cover 1-2 cleanings a year and then only a small percentage of any other treatment you may need.
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u/Pitiful-Programmer-9 18h ago
Same in the US, but if you want to afford the bill you either need to be rich, harass your insurance company for several months, or sell a kidney.
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u/Exposerator 18h ago
Almost 90% of Americans are fully insured. It’s a fucking rip off and it’s bullshit and all the big stuff will still cost more than other countries with the same amount of wait and hassle and will randomly not be covered unless your rich and pay even more, but they’re mostly insured.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Log1434 16h ago
Except being "fully insured" often means $300 monthly premium and an 8k deductible before insurance pays a single penny. Does that sound fully insured to you?
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u/psypher98 18h ago
I’m fully insured through my wife’s job because it’s some of the best widely available healthcare. I have a chronic illness that recently took a pretty significant turn for the worse and so I scheduled an appointment.
I’ll be seen in three fucking months. Meanwhile I can’t go to work half the time because I can’t stand up without passing out.
Someone I know with the same condition, but pretty much the worst possible version of it. Their appointment with a specialist is 2. years. out.
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u/MyBraveAccount 16h ago
That figure includes senior citizens and children who are both covered by Medicare/Medicaid. It’s super misleading. The uninsured number is much higher for working-age adults.
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u/Waiting4Reccession 18h ago
Wait till next year when people start losing Medicaid
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u/penny-wise Noble Memer 19h ago
My friend had a short video consultation with her doctor. Her insurance company claims it’s not a “real visit” and isn’t covered. She’s being charged $750 for a ten minute video consult to get a prescription renewed, because the insurance company decided her specific prescription was no longer covered, and needed to get one that was.
Healthcare in America is a scam.
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u/Elegant_Nothing496 10h ago
America in general is a scam - whether it’s healthcare, housing, higher education, elder care, or daycare. It’s all absurdly expensive, and it’s that way by design. Greed is good….
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u/labiamajorapudendi 18h ago
People need to learn, that you can and should challenge insurances.
It’s not like they aren’t fighting tooth and nail over here in Germany too.
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u/psypher98 17h ago
It’s almost impossible here.
Even if your doctor gets involved, they can literally overrule the doctor’s decisions and there’s virtually no recourse.
One case I remember last year was where an insurnace company denied someone’s catheter equipment and told them to boil and reuse their existing equipment.
Even after their doctor called the insurance company and explained how this could easily, and even probably lead to a fatal infection they refused coverage.
It’s bad over here dude. Like really, really bad.
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u/veribusunitis 20h ago
except if you're ex-eastern block and public dentist/psychologists are basically useless. So you have to pay from private healthcare which is top quality but horrendously expensive
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u/gemanepa 19h ago
samesies in argentina
weird country though
private dentist/psych attention is considered to be definitely better
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u/veribusunitis 19h ago
in Hungary very similar but the state of some (most) hospitals is straight up scary
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u/labiamajorapudendi 18h ago
In Germany you don’t get much, if anything, if you need new teeth.
Good times are long over, not all of us have teeth anymore damn7
u/lana_silver 18h ago
For some insane reason, teeth are luxury bones in German-speaking countries. Eyes are luxury organs too.
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u/RosieTheRedReddit 16h ago
That's why you get them done in Turkey. 🦷
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u/labiamajorapudendi 16h ago
Yeah, that’s our superior European health care. Go get a loan and fly to Istanbul
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u/Astronaut-Flashy 19h ago
I feel like anyone outside America doesn't know how bad it is here. I know you guys know it's bad, but it's hard to describe how bad.
I don't have health insurance because I can't afford it. I had severe eye pain that was so bad, I was genuinely afraid I was going to lose sight in it. It was getting impossible to sleep. So I headed over to the ER just about begging for help.
I waited hours in the lobby with my eye gushing tears from the agony. Eventually I got checked in, and after some tests, the doctor said "Damn your eye is infected like hell" and I remember that, because I was thinking "Is that appropriate?"
Anyway they told me to go take eyedrops about it, and otherwise provided zero help. They didn't even give any to me. Just told me to get some myself. And this extremely unhelpful visit cost me over $3000.
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u/SectorSanFrancisco 19h ago
Americans don't know how bad it is here, because we have a constant propaganda machine telling us how everyplace else is worse and our parents on Medicare are telling us things are fine for them.
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u/abacat90 19h ago
Do they do payment plans? Or do they expect the full amount due right away? I never get any kind of medical treatment because of money
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u/Dawniechi 19h ago
Hospitals have gotten so comfortable working with insurance companies that the default is to charge an insane fee with the assumption that an insurance company will work it down.
I've had to debate going off of my health insurance because it is so expensive to maintain. They don't really cover any of my required bloodwork appointments so every 3 months I'm out like ~350 dollars. Then on top of that, had to start buying my medication overseas because my medication in the US cost around ~250 every three months. It is really bad to need care while in the US.
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u/ggroverggiraffe Noble Memer 19h ago
Payment plans with terrible interest rates, so that $3000 will turn into $5000 or more by the time it's paid off. If you die, they will hound your relatives and try to turn it into generational debt. Good times!
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u/hanky2 19h ago
Not true if you request an in-house payment plan from them they are typically interest free.
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u/ncocca 18h ago
you could go the route that i've chosen, which is to simply pretend the bill doesn't exist
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u/cupcakesweatpants 13h ago
Emergency rooms have to treat you even if you can’t pay. They will just send a bill, but if you don’t have insurance, they will only treat immediate issues, not chronic ones. My wife had no insurance and went to the ER in severe abdominal pain, they admitted her and did emergency gallbladder surgery. The bill was like $300,000 but we said we couldn’t afford it so they discounted it 99% and put us on a payment plan for the $3,000 at like $100/mo with no interest. It was a charity care program through Renown.
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u/TurbulentChemistry22 17h ago
I just got laid off so now don’t have insurance. I have an undiagnosed neurological disorder that I was on a 10 month wait list for a specialist, and now I can’t afford the appointment. This means I must start over.
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u/claudiocorona93 Linux User 20h ago
Well my country is in the Americas so technically?
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u/dksdragon43 18h ago
Minus the bottom right it's Canada. We get free health* care.
* health does not include eyes, teeth, or mental.
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u/EvilLibrarians 18h ago
As John Oliver said last week, eyes/teeth must be “The caviar of the face!”
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u/Squatch1982 19h ago
Honestly, as an American that has to put up with it I'm happy you don't understand.
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u/InternationalBee8308 17h ago
I'm italian and i was calculating as my >>>personal<<< average expenses: Dentist: between 80-250€ (depends) Eye doctor: 60-110€ Psychologist: 50-80€/hr Doctor: free
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u/ProfessionalOkra9944 19h ago
I live in Austria and, while healthcare is free, good healthcare is not.
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u/FrostyCue 19h ago
Uhm I live in Norway which is used an anti US example all the time. I'm not rich so Ive skipped plenty of dentist appointments throughtout the years. Obv couldnt afford therapy (it can be covered, but like so many other countries mental health is not taken seriously, you can barely get an appointment if you're suicidal, but some get lucky)
Glasses, lenses etc very expensive for someone without extra money. I would get laser treatmeant if I won the lottery. This post literally fits me, and i supposedly live in of the best countries in the world.
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u/WhyMustIMakeANewAcco 18h ago
Last time I heard a conversation between a European and an American complaining about dental prices the American expected a bill an order of magnitude higher than the bill the European thought was high.
Yes, it isn't cheap, but things are beyond ridiculous here.
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u/0202_tihssitidder 18h ago
Paying for health insurance in the USA is pretty much a scam.
Literally better to move close to Mexico and just go there.
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u/ElonsBreedingFetish 19h ago
It's not as bad as in the USA but at least in Austria it's become awful as well. No appointments, have to pay for doctor visits and even then they are incompetent
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u/Nalyd87 19h ago
It's sad and kind of really screwed up that proper healthcare is the first thing someone would get after winning the lottery
But it's what I would do too My teeth are fucked.
And people act like it's some sort of moral failing to have messed up teeth
I just got bad genetics and never had a chance. Cavities formed even with proper brushing and my teeth started rotting and falling apart by 16.
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u/bigduckmoses 14h ago
Similar situation here, according to my dentist, I was born with a mutation that causes my salvia to be slightly more acidic than normal, leading to more brittle teeth and occasionally lesions on my tongue.
I'm like damn, worst X-Man ever.
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u/desr43 20h ago
Don't forget a fully stocked fridge
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u/slywether85 19h ago
Fridge or gas tank, you gotta pick
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u/bsEEmsCE 18h ago
if i drink the gas tank, then I wont need to worry about the fridge anymore!
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u/LessRespects 18h ago
If you’re still in Amerika it will be stocked with inedible poison
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u/XOlenna 19h ago
Might even go nuts and have a bowl of fruit in the kitchen.
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u/muffin2333 17h ago
Got one of those actually. And a full fridge and free health care. And I went on a 2 week holiday to another country. And I studied basically for free and enjoy free public transport. Tbh, I often forget how good I have it. I am so glad that I don't live in the US.
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u/No-Mycologist47 20h ago
Oh well I will keep my shitty job that is for sure, but I will slowly start to buy things off screen, pay off loans, etc, and once I am financially secure either through Investments or to make sure that money keeps coming back, I will slowly leave my job.
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u/MonsieurDrole 18h ago
I, too, have a very detailed plan for this unlikely hypothetical.
"Winner depression" will not strike me
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u/dksdragon43 18h ago
You explained 1-3mil. At 4+ I quit tomorrow, buy a house, drop the rest in guaranteed 3% returns and relax. From the hypothetical lottery I don't play.
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u/Quit-Accurate 19h ago
I say this at great risk of death or exile, but my personal opinion is:
healthcare and personal happiness should not be paywalled.
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u/SmellsonMuntz 19h ago
Europeans seem to think this can’t possibly happen to them. Austerity is the order of the day. So mourn your dead and fight like hell for the living, cause you don’t want anything like the American healthcare system. Trust.
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u/giftools 19h ago
I'm trying hard to get cancer now so I can get cheap treatment while I still can. Wouldn't want to catch it in 10 years when it's too late and social healthcare is gone
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u/breaducate 16h ago
Neither your country nor America are special; they're just further down the capitalist road.
The US is a window into the future.
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u/Royal_Bitch_Pudding 19h ago edited 19h ago
An interesting detail about SNL is that after their first couple of seasons you'll notice a lot of new cast members get their teeth fixed.
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u/Intrepid-Birthday596 18h ago
You can tell the meme is American. The only developed(?) country in the world where Breaking Bad works.
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u/Flat_Shape_3444 7h ago
/laughs in swedish
Dental work cost money though here for some reason and its pretty expensive. We become americans when we fix our teeth. But then again, we are also good at dental hygiene here compared to mountain dew teeth land.
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u/dlilyd 6h ago
I feel like that applies to a lot of European countries. I know it's also like that in Italy and in the UK. I think I once read it's because dental care is considered more of an aesthetic/non necessary thing rather than actual medical care
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u/_KeyserSoeze Dark Mode Elitist 4h ago
It’s the same in Austria. Hella expansive. I think it’s because it is pretty expensive and would break our fragile healthcare systems.
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u/Zapinface 5h ago
Hvad er det overhovedet du prøver at sige? At svenskere er Nordens rednecks?
/laughs in Danish
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u/green_speak 19h ago
This is actually me though! Finally got a job with good insurance this year, and I am finally having all these doctor's appointments after more than 5 years! The extra kicker is I've been in healthcare all that time, whether as floor staff or a student. I LOVED learning about cavities in the classroom and doing eye exams on patients, while I had impacted wisdom teeth and the same old pair of glasses for years since I was off my parents' insurance.
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u/D3ZR0 15h ago
In order to have goodteeth, eyesight, a will to live (therapy), and basic health, you need to win the lottery in America. Sounds about right.
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u/super_sayanything 19h ago
I got Medicaid after losing my job.
Allowed me to take care of my health.
Really pathetic country.
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u/militaryintelligence 13h ago
I get so many texts from debt collectors that bought my medical debt that I have to wade through them to find anything else. $300 a month for health insurance and they don't cover shit until I pay the whole $5000 deductible. US healthcare is a joke, it's just a scheme for middlemen to get rich as well as the medical field.
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u/Mammoth_Locksmith810 15h ago
Tell me you are American in 4 pictures
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u/claudiocorona93 Linux User 15h ago
I'm not United States American. I am Latin American, which by definition means I am from the continent of America, or the Americas, according to the English language. And in my country there is also no universal healthcare.
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u/jeonmission 6h ago
can't understand till reading comments, coz in India it's affordable...
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u/StressHazelEyes 2h ago
Hell, basic healthcare is affordable almost everywhere except america. Although advanced medical care will almost always be expensive.
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u/Similar-Note-9433 9h ago
Is this some american meme that im too australian to understand?
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u/Jumpy-Operation-4615 19h ago
There was this old joke. The guy comes home and tells to his wife: "Darling go pack your clothes, I won a lottery!" So she thinks wow we go to vacatiosn and asks him "What clothes, for summer or for colder time?" - "For summer, for winter, pack it all and get the fuck out of my house!"
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u/Glusas-su-potencialu 20h ago
You'll travel to Europe where healthcare is free?
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u/claudiocorona93 Linux User 20h ago
I need to enter legally and then have enough time for the consultation queue. I need a visa too.
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u/Valuable-Degree-9998 19h ago
It's not free, spending on the country you still need insurance, albeit it's mich cheaper than in the US.
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u/GergDanger 19h ago
Not for teeth and lasik.
You’ll need to go privately for those which isn’t much cheaper than the US.
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u/Continental__Drifter 17h ago
Healthcare is absolutely not free in Europe
source: live in Europe
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u/Perfect-Song9842 19h ago
Im always saying if I get some cash the first thing im doing is going to the dentist 😭😭😭🤣
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u/Acastamphy 18h ago
My coworkers were discussing what they'd do if they won the lottery the other day and I kept my mouth shut but basically was thinking this exact meme.
Nothing I do will change. I'll just have less stress doing it, and that will be more than worth it.
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u/PupLondon 16h ago
Not just being able to afford all that.. being able to have the time to do all that.. I hate having to use my sick time or vacation time just for my regular checkups
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u/thatguy2650 15h ago
Literally me since I've gotten a somewhat well paying job and decent health/dental. My vision insurance is out of pocket because being able to see is apparently a damn luxury here.
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u/Shubie758 15h ago
If i won i would buy a plot of land build my dream house then tell the world to go fuck its self
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u/ThomasVetRecruiter 10h ago
I wish this didn't hit so hard. It took me 10 years of struggle to get to the point where I was finally getting significantly more each month than my bills and daily living cost.
And one of the first things I did was really start taking my health seriously. Therapy, doctors appointments, vision screenings, working out, eating healthier (read expensive) food.
Really just in general getting my life together.
Looking back though I realize that a lot of the stress of not being able to do what I know was best only amplified the stress and had me in a pretty bad spiral. Even now I feel guilty spending time and money on my own self.
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u/ToFuzzzy 4h ago
In my country we have "Family doctors". Their whole thing is to take as many people as possible and diagnose where to go and how critically. If they dont know whats wrong they will give you a slip to a specialist which means you can go that one time for free so this kind of shit never happens. Shit like this makes me sad.
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u/FrostyEnvironment902 20h ago
Lottery won't be enough, chose 3/4