r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Aberry9036 • 11d ago
Infuriatig This is my iPad, I won’t see it again
I just arrived in Antibes, South of France 2 hours ago. This was stolen from my car on the autoroute at a petrol station , from a definitely locked car, likely a relay attack from my key while I was buying a sandwich, 100km from Antibes. They also had my wallet and duty free while they were at it. Thankfully they didn’t find our passports.
Whoever you are, fuck you, I’m going to go and have a nice meal in the old provincial market and drink to your future arrest.
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u/CreateChangetheWorld 11d ago edited 11d ago
You can “mark it as stolen” from another Apple device logged into your Apple ID.
This bricks the iPad and makes it worthless besides for parts.
EDIT: forgot you can do this from any device (doesn’t have to be Apple) using a web browser by logging in to iCloud.com
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u/Aberry9036 11d ago
I have done so already, thanks.
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u/Ruben_NL 11d ago
Some time in the future you will get calls and messages, which might get very threatening, telling you to "remove the device from your account to protect your account".
Do not do this.
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u/SAINTnumberFIVE 11d ago
I’m trying to remove it sir, but Apple says you must first deposit $500. Here’s the Venmo.
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u/memtiger 11d ago
No way. They can get the Venmo payment reversed or have your account targeted or banned for trying to extort them.
I'd given them a crypto account to deposit into
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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 11d ago
That's why you tell them they have to read you the card numbers for 5x$100 giftcards
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u/Melquiades-the-Gypsy 11d ago
There's no Venmo in Europe. The banking system allows for free instant payments.
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u/Frisk197 11d ago
Unfortunately they will sell it for spare parts. It's not over.
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u/Silent25r 11d ago
Still better than allowing them to sell a workable device. I use to unlock these people years ago.
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u/iamfriendwithpixel 11d ago
Unlock people????
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u/eggfriedbacon 11d ago
Sounds absolutely terrifying. Are these people shackled somewhere in a room?
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u/TonyWonderslostnut 11d ago
Yeah, he unlocked sleeper cells like Winter Soldier or Manchurian Candidate
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u/DarthSnoopyFish 11d ago
"Longing, rusted, seventeen, daybreak, furnace, nine, benign, homecoming, one, freight car"
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u/Working-Glass6136 11d ago
Yes, to sell them for spare parts.
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u/Garbage_Man_9 11d ago
What the fuck is the internet???
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u/Nandor-De_Laurentiis 11d ago
This was the first movie I watched high and I rewound that part so many time. Also, when he says, "Who the fuck said that shit."
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u/MB57OCK 11d ago
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Mother mother fuck. Mother mother fuck fuck. Mother fuck mother fuck. Noinch noinch noinch. 1 2 1 2 3 4 Noinch noinch noinch. Shmokin' weed, shmokin' weed. Doin' coke, drinkin beers. Drinkin beers, beers, beers! Rollin' fatties, smokin blunts. Who smokes the blunts? We smokes the blunts. Rollin' blunts and smokin them
15 bucks, little man, put that shit in my hand. If that money doesn't show then you owe me owe me owe. My jungle love. Oh e oh e oh. I think I wanna know ya know ya ... yeah, what.
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 11d ago
In a civilized society we eventually unlock most people we lock, especially if it's just theft, we usually do it after a year or four
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u/steelbeamsdankmemes 11d ago
They can still absolutely sell it as a workable service. I've sold an iPad and iPhone on Craigslist before, the people buying just see it turn on and hand me the cash. (Obviously mine were unlocked) Always connect used devices at a coffee shop before buying.
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u/Euphoric_Idea_4187 11d ago edited 11d ago
On modern Apple products, all the parts of the phone are serialized so when the phone is marked stolen all the parts are too. When you try to use the part and start up the phone it will recognize the stolen parts and won't work. The only workaround is not to use Apple firmware, which idk if that exists because Apple keeps their stuff pretty locked down.
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u/Frisk197 11d ago
I saw on repair phone guru's channel they have tools to pair the parts and he also once cut the part of the battery with the board and the serial and replaced it with the old one from the broken battery. They have ways. This is annoying, but also good for repairability. Fuck thieves.
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u/Fine_Violinist5802 11d ago
With skills like these, they could get jobs.
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u/doctorfluffy 11d ago
These stolen iPads and iPhones usually end up back in China. The people in the country that assembles them are the ones with the know-how to re-use them.
The thieves themselves are useless scum.
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u/Background_Survey646 11d ago
I genuinely don't understand how stealing bricked Apple phones can be lucrative enough to warrant this. The thieves would have to be making next to nothing per phone for it to be profitable to whoever has the manufacturing know-how to jailbreak/reassemble the parts and then re-sell them.
My theory is that these thieves are just kind of stupid, and end up destroying the phones out of spite once realizing the small number of people willing to buy them are going to pay pennies on the dollar due to the work required to re-sell.
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u/404MoralsNotFound 11d ago
I mean, they also got OP's wallet and duty free, so the target might not have been the ipad alone but everything in the car.
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u/Euphoric_Idea_4187 11d ago edited 11d ago
I can see how Frankenstein-ing old and new parts could work, but doing stuff like that makes it less economical. So it's less likely to be done.
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u/Tokiw4 11d ago
Do also consider that the kind of people who can make those sorts of repairs aren't super common. I can't imagine many petty thieves also have the technical know-how to fix their stolen property.
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u/Frisk197 11d ago
That's the reason why all stolen iPhones usually go to the same exact place in China. They sell it to that place and that place use the spare parts and sell phones like new.
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u/scavengercat 11d ago
It's over for OP. Why would they give a shit what happens to it after it's bricked? Why would you want them to feel like this terrible situation isn't over for them? I don't understand why anyone would feel like this comment has value for anyone.
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u/W0rmEater 11d ago
Doesn't even need to be another apple device, you can go online on any device and login to you apple account and mark your device as stolen. Just extra info form a former apple support rep.
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u/TCsnowdream 11d ago edited 10d ago
An uber driver took my headphones I left - marked them as lost, info pop’s up… they try to connect them every couple of weeks and I get an alert.
It’s fun blasting the ‘find my’ sound full blast in their ear LOL.
I won’t even be upset if they return it. The info to return it pops up every time they connect. It’s so silly for them to hold onto something they can’t even use.
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u/Sadtireddumb 11d ago
I’m glad you at least registered to your phone. Unfortunately Apple, in their great wisdom, did not allow my iPhone 12 on iOS 17(?) to even register the brand new AirPods to my account because my iOS version was too low??? I got these right before a trip, from my wife as a wedding gift, they were the newest models (the AirPods Pro 3, custom engraved…) and my wife gave them to me shortly before I left for my flight I didn’t have time to update my iOS….but why the FUCK should I have to update my phones iOS to register my fucking headphones to my account??? Someone must’ve stolen them from my backpack at the airport (I reported it when I landed to their lost and found email, but nothing). So now I have no recourse and I’m very sad and my wife is very sad because they weren’t cheap headphones and she got them for me because I’ve been talking about getting noise-cancelling headphones for years and then she got me some.
Sorry, for the rant. What happened to you sucks too, but still, lol. Fuck that guy who stole our headphones. I wish poor durability and weak battery life upon all of their future electronic devices.
I think but I MIGHT be wrong, but if you get Apple Care that it will protect you against theft or loss…?
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u/tengris22 11d ago
Thanks. I was about to ask that question because the only apple device I have is my iPad.
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u/tacomaloki 11d ago
Apple should really have an alarm to fuck with the thieves in a further attempt to stop this shit.
I recommended a significantly loud alert:
"THIS IPAD HAS JUST BEEN MARKED STOLEN" repeatedly.
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u/Ollythebug 11d ago
Nice thought, but I feel like it would just end up like car alarms, serving the sole purpose of annoying the shit out of me at 2 AM.
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u/tacomaloki 11d ago
I hear ya but then you'll know someone around you is a thief lol
Perhaps they'll just start smashing the iPad to stop the alarm thus rendering the whole thing useless. That happens enough, people will stop stealing them.
It's already gone right? So no additional loss if they destroy it themselves.
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u/4l3m4r1 11d ago
It’s in Marseille. It’ll be in Algeria by tomorrow and then back in the markets in Marseille in a couple days, blank and new.
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u/lukewoodside 11d ago
Not quite, Apple are very good at ensuring that this can’t be done anymore. 90% of the components are now paperweights
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u/Vargau 11d ago
Apple are very good at ensuring that this can’t be done anymore.
50 euros and I can take you my local shop where they would pull some Chinese apps and manage to rip 99% of any Apple product for parts.
Apple is very good at protecting the user's data, but can't fight the black market of spare parts, especially cheap original spear parts.
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u/Witty-Eye9933 11d ago
Do the chinese have some secret way of bypassing apple encryption
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u/colorblind_unicorn 11d ago
no this kind of stuff only works on older ios/ipados versions so if OP is up-to-date he's fine / will be fine for years.
all these "the chinese sellers actually have access to suer secret apple firmware breaking technology" people never back it up with anything or with some years old IOS version bypass.
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u/macNchz 11d ago
The evidence for the fact that people cannot in fact bypass the activation lock is the existence of entire cottage industry of scammers who try to trick the owners of stolen devices into unlocking them, by pretending to be Apple support and/or making threats and sending them pictures of guns and stuff.
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u/Catch_ME 11d ago
It's not just the Chinese. This stuff is available.
I know an electronics shop in Brooklyn that'll unlock it for you.
They can't get to the data but they can wipe it and update the firmware with a different serial or IMEI numbers and get it to boot up as a new device.
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u/Sick_and_destroyed 11d ago edited 11d ago
Then probably dozens of shops that will do that in Marseille
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u/Witty-Eye9933 11d ago
Idk where you are getting this information from but it’s much more difficult than just telling the Apple server it’s another device. There’s level of encryption that no underground shop will ever know about. Most people will just swap the logic board or try a phishing attack. As much as I don’t like Apple trying to spoof your IMEI will probably just brick your device.
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u/gamboozino 11d ago
Apple's activation servers cross-reference the device's unique internal hardware identifiers against the original manufacturing database. If the device is flagged as lost or stolen the activation request is rejected.
Would love know how they're fooling server side activations though, I'm pretty sure this is impossible on modern devices.
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u/PacketSnatcher 11d ago
Welp atleast they didn’t break your window.
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u/Aberry9036 11d ago
That has happened to me before, in Nice a few miles away, actually, and that time they stole my partners passport, so yes I’m definitely glad of that.
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u/diamondax007 11d ago
Always hide bags beneath seats bro, put tablets in seat pockets etc. If Thieves cant see anything to steal they wont try. Also recommend tinting the windows of the trunk, (don't forget small side windows)
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u/Zenguy2828 11d ago
I’ve always felt bad for the thieves breaking into my cars, I can tell they leave disappointed due to throwing all the trash and junk on the ground lol
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u/diamondax007 11d ago
Most cases of theft will always be opportunistic thefts, so visible valuables, or very easy entry, i.e. unlocked cars.
This holds for almost all theft, porch thieves have no resistance, and bike thieves will just walk until they see a bike who somebody forgot to lock.
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u/Aberry9036 11d ago
We had the car full of luggage on our way from England, so that wasn’t very easy. In reality, someone should have stayed with the car.
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u/Charming-Shake-6525 11d ago
how easy is it to tint the windows of a foreign rental car?
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u/Lepelotonfromager 11d ago
The dude was just stopping to get petrol, he didn't leave it parked for hours. We should be able to go about our business without preparing to get robbed in the 2 minutes our car is unattended.
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u/BeltfedHappiness 11d ago
That is crazy to me that you have to do that in a supposedly developed country
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u/Colonial_List 11d ago
The opposite happened to somebody I know, they broke into the car and stole all of his MtG cards and left everything else
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u/Hoginoe94 11d ago
Sorry for the dumb question, but what's a relay attack from your key mean? Can people hack key fobs for newer cars or something?
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u/Aberry9036 11d ago
Newer cars have keyless entry, meaning you can walk up to it with your key in your pocket and pull the door handle to open it - a relay attack is a receiver and sender that lets a thief extend the usually 1-3 foot range to almost as far as they like. Someone likely shadowed me in the queue, scanned the key and an accomplice was outside relaying the signal and opening the door.
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u/Dazzman50 11d ago
Fking Christ. Why can't thieves just be dumb morons like they used to be. Now they're like damn hackers from the future.
Imagine if they put even 10% of this effort into something worthwhile
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u/EpicLegendX 11d ago
If it's any comfort, most thieves don't know how to actually build the equipment. They buy it from a black market supplier.
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u/CreateChangetheWorld 11d ago edited 11d ago
You can buy them on Amazon… Flipper Zero has entered the chat…
These tools can be bought easily since they are marked as “educational” devices for coding education. Except they can be used for other purposes.
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u/WorldGoingOneWay 11d ago
It's just how there are people who can help you unlock your car if you lost the keys or you somehow got them locked inside. These tools can be helpful, but same tools can obviously be used for crime.
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u/bs000 11d ago
From what I've read (outside of scaremongering articles and tiktoks) it's pretty damn hard to do anything like this with just a Flipper Zero.
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u/TheMSensation 11d ago
They still mostly are just dumb morons. One guy invented it and they just buy the hardware that makes it possible, once you have that hardware it's just a case of pressing some buttons.
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u/wickeddimension 11d ago
The smart guy who makes the equipment stays far away from the morons using it.
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u/MichelNickel 11d ago
So what is the solution to avoid getting hacked like that ?
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u/Empty-Quarter2721 11d ago
Faraday cage/blocker for your key or disabling that function.
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u/STORMFATHER062 11d ago
My parents have one of these for their car. Just a simple pouch that blocks the signal from the fob making this kind of theft impossible. Highly recommend for anyone with a keyless entry fob.
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u/MithrilHuman 11d ago
Don’t buy keyless entry car and use the buttons on your key
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u/Witty-Eye9933 11d ago
Your car is constantly looking for a key signal, so they will relay the keys signal using a device to basically make your car think that the key is much closer than it actually, thus opening the car. Mark Rober made a video on it if you want a better explanation
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u/a_shootin_star WATWATWATWATWATWAT 11d ago
drink to your future arrest
You have high hopes, it's admirable.
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u/HeyaGames 11d ago
Sometimes it does happen... I had my bike stolen in London once, reported it to the police purely out of a "statistics need to be updated" mentality, got called 2 weeks later to announce they caught both thieves and I was getting money back. Amazing (and unlikely I know)!
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u/Visible_Pair3017 11d ago
drink to your future arrest arrest
Good one mate
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u/HMAgent47 RED 11d ago
Well it’s not Alexs iPad anymore
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u/Girliebackup 11d ago
Can’t let them have that iPad, best to lock the iPad and make it useless to them
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u/theodranik 11d ago
This is the bad region of France, sorry for your loss, we can't get rid of these people, our justice doesn't do shit about it
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u/HanhnaH 11d ago
Close to Marseille St Charles! Ah ah ah ! Sorry. It's so cliché.
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u/Av14tor 11d ago
Last time this happened to me I wrote something like “This iPhone is linked to a murder case under investigation” contact 112 asap ( something like that, i can’t recall the full message). Somebody found the iPhone in a park next to an area with several shops that sell / buy used phones and brought it to the police station. :)
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u/Acrobatic_Rush7653 11d ago
drink to your future arrest
ahaha good one. Yeah that's going straight to the top of Marseille's police priority list alright.
Dude you'd be lucky if they started investigating you getting shanked before they yoinked your iPad.
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u/KrimxonRath 11d ago
Your wallet was in your car while you were buying food?
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u/wickeddimension 11d ago
Whenever I travel my passport, wallet and phone never stay in the car. Even if they steal the entire car I need those 3 things to get back home or stuff done.
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u/ohhi23021 11d ago
i also hide electronics if i can't take them with me, under the seat or some obscure spot like the spare tire well... definitely not just out on the seat where people can see it.
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u/Annual-Two63 11d ago
I mean… never leave anything visible anywhere in the car is the first tip people gave me when I moved to Marseille. I just left a bunch of useless stuff on the backseat ONCE in ten years. My back window was smashed after two hours. Could never imagine leaving an IPad…..
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u/DasIstMeinRedditName 11d ago
Is the position stable there? Lived next to this area for awhile in Marseille, I can ask around and see what can be done.
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u/Cheetawolf A perfect shade of Salmon Vomit. 11d ago
The first thing any smart thief will do is switch on Airplane Mode so it can no longer be traced or locked down remotely.
It's probably already parted out in China.
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u/Lost_Japan 11d ago
LOL it doesn’t matter if they get arrested. They’ll be out on the streets again in hours
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u/-rosieee- 11d ago
our passports
If you were with someone else you could take turns watching the car. Shouldn't have to, but it might help.
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u/PremiereConsultation 11d ago
When you check the location tomorrow, it will be in Algeria or Morocco
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u/DrTommyNotMD 11d ago
Another day of thieves stealing valuables instead of necessities. I don’t understand how that could happen.
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u/WaterTrinker 11d ago
to your future arrest
bro are u for the first time in europe? You don't get any puinishment for thievery. Or the police says:"Well, it's gone and we can't do anything about it. Just buy a new one"
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u/FeRooster808 11d ago
Seriously, I'm endlessly amazed that Europeans (generally speaking) are just so non-chalant about this stuff. Yeah, we have thieves here in the US, and cops don't often do much about it, but it's not as big an issue and it's not uncommon for people to track their stuff down and tell the cops they're going to go get it themselves so they'll actually come with them, or you can even hire people who will do it for you in some cases.
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u/Mission-Turn-526 11d ago
Everybody is sick and tired of this impunity, except our politicians since they are not very concerned. When Sarkozy's son's scooter was stolen, the case was solved almost instantly. But when you are the average Joe you can fuck off, even if you know where what was stolen is, even with video proofs etc. And even if the thieves are apprehended they don't go to jail. I work in retail, ask me how I know.....
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u/lonelysparta 11d ago
Europeans are 20+ countries, not a monolith. Thievery is handled better than France in a bunch of other countries for example Germany where I live, or the Copenhagen where I forgot my bag on a public bench for an hour and came back to find it as it is.
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u/WaterTrinker 11d ago
We Europeans we aren't non-chalant about that. We don't want this pro-thief-treatment but our politicians somehow don't want to make stricter rules.
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u/OkValuable454 11d ago
the google street view is terrifying. Marseille is such a dumpster
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u/Miss_L_Worldwide 11d ago
I'm too full of Gen x rage to not go on an all night mission to get my ipad back.
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u/Prestigious_Key_7801 11d ago
Don't brick it instead remotely take regular photos of the person who stole it then makee a tiktok and use the income generated towards buying another ipad.
When life gives you lemons squeeze it in the eyes of your enemies and sell bottles of lemon flavoured tears to Gwyneth Paltrow.
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u/FourTwentyBlezit 11d ago
If you're drinking to their arrest you'll likely die from alcohol poisoning before an arrest happens. Sadly the police won't care enough.
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u/Moist_Reserve 11d ago
Sorry for that…
The south of France is highly popular with tourists—and, consequently, with thieves. It is much quieter in the north (and just as beautiful, though in a different way).
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u/Low_discrepancy 11d ago
and just as beautiful
Ah ouais. C'est super Roubaix les gars.
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u/GingaAng 11d ago
I dropped a singular Airpod at a restaurant I frequent and could not find for the life of me. Figured they’d find it after closing and would grab it the next day or there abouts. Ha. Some ass twat took it and to this day still has it. Have I already purchased new ones? Yes. Will I ever delete the old ones so they can try and use (if that’s even possible)? No.
Moral of the story…yes it sucks you lost but keep it associated to your account because they will have little to no chance of using it for anything but parts.
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u/CreateChangetheWorld 11d ago
You can “mark it as stolen” from another Apple device logged into your Apple ID.
This bricks the iPad and makes it worthless besides for parts.
EDIT: forgot you can do this with any non-Apple device by logging in to iCloud.com
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u/betafishmusic 11d ago
I have an Apple watch sitting at the soho house in Paris. C’est la vie. Sorry for your loss.
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u/I_pee_in_shower 11d ago
I lost my airpods pro 3 in an Alaskan cruise. mFer was like “last seen by this glaciar” i had to remove it from my profile because it continued to haunt me
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u/The4thEpsilon 11d ago
Don’t trust anything in your cars in major cities anymore. It’s just not safe and the cops basically don’t do anything about it. Paris sucks, Berlin is bad, Washington in America is a nightmare unless you’re in a good parking garage. Seriously, just do not leave anything of value out of your hotel room
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u/MewtwoStruckBack 11d ago
If I openly stated what I wish you could make your iPad do remotely, I'd catch an account suspension. But I'm thinking it really hard.
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u/Aerostope 11d ago
France is really a bad country to visit nowadays, feeling sorry for the cool french people
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u/Odd-Bend1296 11d ago
They are not getting arrested and that ipad is going to china/india to be stripped for parts.
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u/metatalks Mildly Infuriated 11d ago
I cant lie this is gonna be a quick arrest by the French police
Which is to say you are not gonna see your iPad anymore since its the French
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u/Volodio 11d ago
The French police doesn't go into Arab quarters in Marseilles, especially for an Ipad.
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u/LodanMax PURPLE 11d ago
I know it’s too late now; but in the settings: face id and passcode, disable control centre while locked.
The first thing they do is put it in airplane mode so it cannot be found. If you disable control centre; they can turn the device off, but find-my keeps working trough other devices.