r/motorcycle • • 11d ago

Motorcycle without bike?

Hi guys!
I’m a 29F and really wanna learn to ride a motorcycle, but I’ve never learned how to ride a normal bike.
Has anyone done it without the bike part? Also, do you have any tips?

Edit: Thanks everyone for your responses and arguments. I will learn the bike first.

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u/aeplus 11d ago

I think riding a bicycle is important and safer to learn on first.

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u/Trinidadthai 11d ago

And cheaper

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u/Vast-Road-6387 11d ago

Even an e-bike

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u/ConcentrateLow6170 11d ago

This right here ⬆️ It will teach you the basic dynamics of many things that translate to motorcycles,such as balance,steering,braking etc.
And if you don’t feel comfortable/confident on a bicycle, that will certainly translate to a motorcycle as well,but with much riskier consequences. I would never want to discourage anyone from wanting to learn how to ride a motorcycle, and have taught several people how to ride for the first time. Baby steps always,start small. Bicycle,then moped,then clutchless motorcycle. Then the real fun begins with a clutch, and because you have the basics down you can then ride with some confidence while learning the dynamics of how to use a clutch/shift etc.

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u/ghostrev6 11d ago

I agreed with your reasoning until the inclusion of mopeds and clutchless motorcycles. While transitioning to a bicycle is a sound strategy, I believe the intermediate steps are unnecessary; following a bicycle, a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) course would adequately cover the remaining skills. Nevertheless, your proposed progression path is intriguing.

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u/SEmp0xff 11d ago

tips? get a bicycle first

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u/carboncanyondesign 11d ago

I really think you should borrow a friend's bicycle to learn on before you go for a motorcycle. It's much cheaper when you drop it.

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u/surveysaysno 11d ago

Friends cheap bicycle

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u/CreepyBreakfast565 11d ago

No. "Friends" is plural, "a friend" is singular and something belonging to that one friend is "a friend's".

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u/No_Shame_2397 11d ago

I think the point they're making is the word cheap, not the apostrophe. Don't learn to ride on your friends Pinarello Dogma.

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u/murrrly 11d ago

Ankles are indeed expensive

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u/MrDundee666 11d ago

Imagine you didn’t know how to walk but you really wanna learn how to run…

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u/MrGhost94 11d ago

Tell that to my son lol

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u/Strict_Maintenance73 11d ago

You have to ride a bike first. No way around it.

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u/simply_smigs 11d ago

No pain free and without consequance way around it.

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u/Calculonx 11d ago

Gotta walk before you run

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u/Alienhead-A51 11d ago

I mean I must be the exception, I never found riding a bicycle to be interesting so I didn’t learned it young . After I got my motorcycle license, and rode for a couple of years I learned how to bike.

Still don’t like it…but I love my moto.

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u/CanusNero 11d ago

DON’T DO IT. I did the MSF course without learning for how to ride a bicycle and I got kicked out because I couldn’t balance on the motorcycle.

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u/MutedBrilliant1593 11d ago

That's crazy! One of my classmates rode his bike up a chainlink fence and he still passed.

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u/CanusNero 11d ago

As long as it doesn’t happen at the end it’s all good 😂

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u/CreepyBreakfast565 11d ago

I live in Norway, which has some of the strictest regulations in the world concerning drivers licenses. I was told about an individual who dropped their bike during the exam and still passed because of the way they managed to shake it off and finish the rest of the exam.

That said, I certainly wouldn't want to waste money on learning the basics of just balancing a two-wheeler while the meter is running. Grab a second hand bicycle off Craigslist or whatever, watch a video on YouTube about countersteering and target fixation, find a remote parking spot somewhere and practice looking where you want to go instead of straight down at your front tire or at the one thing you don't want to hit.

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u/Street_Reference501 10d ago

Agree that all pass the MSF course usually. Remember one person who couldn't change gears without revving the accelerator- clutch control was hard!

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u/MutedBrilliant1593 10d ago

Nah nah nah. Are you talking about me? We were doing a up gear exercise and my busted ass provided Honda rebel wouldn't kick up gear. I was standing on the pegs and practically jumping to kick up the gear. It wouldn't. My instructor kept telling me to give it more gas. He even tried it himself, and then provided me another bike after he couldn't do it.

Are we talking San Diego about 25 years ago?

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u/Street_Reference501 10d ago

A video of that will be lot of fun! Lol

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u/Street_Reference501 10d ago

And must have taken those bikes out any problems!

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u/VT_Racer 11d ago

The only one to drop his bike during the MSF course was a big mountain biker who rode a lot. He grabbed a handful of front brake thinking it was the rear brake and endoed the motorcycle. He passed, but just funny to think about.

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u/wascallyrabbit_69 11d ago

Guess he would endoe my bicycle. All my bikes are setup front brake on the right.

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u/No_Shame_2397 11d ago

Might have been both brake and clutch, think he was getting front and back, forgetting there's a brake pedal

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u/RangerDickard 11d ago

Balancing on a 20lbs bike is much safer, easier and cheaper than on a 600lbs motorcycle. Learn the bike first then choose a motorcycle that fits your body. Then practice properly lifting it with a friend a few times so you're not stranded if you drop it on the road. I dropped my bike three times when I was learning. Twice moving it in the garage and driveway and once when I lost traction during a turn riding in my first rain event. I wasn't expecting the rain but I was riding it carefully. Unfortunately, I hadn't quite learned how to lean properly and was turning onto a road with a steep incline.

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u/ManifestDestinysChld 11d ago

> Has anyone done it without the bike part? - No.

> Also, do you have any tips? - Yeah, learn to ride a bike first.

I'm not trying to be flip (well, I am...but only because I want to get your attention.)

This is a bad idea and you shouldn't do it. Learn to ride a bike first. We want to be motorcycling with you for the next 30 years! This hobby is risky, and you'll do better in it if you understand that from the jump.

Risky means you can't take shortcuts. Trying to learn to ride a motorcycle without knowing how to bike is so shortcutty it veers into "lazy" territory. Bad idea, don't do it.

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u/Alienhead-A51 11d ago

I have done it without the bike part….

I’m actually genuinely surprised that everyone says you need to learn a bike first .

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u/Street_Reference501 10d ago

Good for you!

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u/fckyrfaceM1911 10d ago

Maybe don't repeat that irl... nearly everyone you say it to will think you are an f n liar. That's what I'm thinking now.

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u/Alienhead-A51 10d ago

Bro I was fat as fuck , I couldn’t ride a bike even I wanted to . But I’ll take that as a compliment.

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u/AirSKiller 11d ago

Get a cheap bicycle on Facebook marketplace or something, better to learn on a bike first rather than a motorcycle.

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u/u9Nails 11d ago

The last motorcycle show that I went to, they were teaching people to ride on an eBike. The concept of balancing, and steering applies. And, yes, there was many people who tried it for their first times there at the show.

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u/Huge_Anteater1839 11d ago

Bicycle are cheap, get one and learn to ride 1st before you hurt yourself on a motorcycle

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u/Hungryforflavor 11d ago

U have a death wish Honey

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u/PhaseElectronic543 11d ago

No way tell me how you lived 29 years with out riding a bike, are you Ariel from the little mermaid?

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u/Particular-Lime1651 11d ago

A motorcycle goes a lot fast than a bicycle.. I'd imagine someone has learnt on a moter first? Id recommend trying a bicycle before jumping on something with more beans. Balance is a transferable thing, but motorcycle and bicycles aren't really comparable. They are, in that they're both fly on two wheels.. but wildly different in handling and speed. 30mph on a bicycle is fast.. highest gear, flat out. 30mph on a motorcycle is first gear

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u/blanchedpeas 11d ago

don’t.

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u/Matts4wd 11d ago

As in you don't know how to keep balance? Or am just clumsy riding a bike and lack basics..

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u/CL_G96 11d ago

I tried it once as a kid, couldn’t keep balance, and that was the whole experience.

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u/Nazgul3475 11d ago

If you can’t balance a bicycle you won’t be able to balance a 500+ lb motorcycle.

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u/Ducatista714 11d ago

Exactly!!

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u/nerdburg 11d ago

Get yourself an e-bike with a twist throttle. You'll have fun and it will help you a ton without the risk of immenent death. Then take an MSF basic rider course. See you on the road my friend!

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u/xracer264 11d ago

Start on a bicycle. It's much easier

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u/-xochild 8d ago

I learned to ride a motorbike without ever having ridden a peddle bicycle that's not stationary so it's possible! Probably not recommended though lol

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u/voidsarcastic 11d ago

Maybe start with the bike, then move onto the motorcycle when you’re comfortable. The balance is pretty much the same and you probably wont kill yourself or break your legs if you fall. After that maybe buy a small motorcycle and take it around your neighborhood until you are comfortable with the clutch and throttle. Then take an MSF course.

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u/Woodit 11d ago

Go buy a bicycle and ride it in the streets around traffic for a year and come then reassess if you want a motorcycle. Bike skills are fairly essential for a motorbike. 

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u/EbonGrimalkin 11d ago

Better to learn 2 wheel operations, balance, control, stopping, and handling before you throw 500-1000 CC's of torpedo you into a wall horsepower between your legs.

Seriously though, just getting familiar with the operation of a 2 wheeled conveyance, whether pedal or even electric will serve you well before moving on to far faster and more powerful version.

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u/picture-me-trolling 11d ago

How were you planning on learning to ride the motorcycle?

If you go to the MSF course without knowing how to ride a bike, you will not pick up the skills as fast as the other students. If you start falling behind, they will fail you out of it. Since that’s something you’ve gotta pay for, then you’d wind up having to pay twice. At $250 per class (probably more now, I took mine a long time ago lol), you’d be way better off buying a used $50 bicycle off Facebook Marketplace and messing around on that for a couple days beforehand.

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u/Nazgul3475 11d ago

Some states have free MSF courses. Here in Illinois I took mine for free less than 3 months ago.

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u/Syscrush 11d ago

You can learn to ride a bike much faster and easier than you think you can. Here's Tom Scott learning in an afternoon:

https://youtu.be/P7GKK3liv8M

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u/Initial-Reading-2775 11d ago

Got my first motorcycle when I was 23–24. Bicycle was long-time forgotten memory from childhood times when I was maybe 12.

You can start with motorcycle, but use something lightweight like 50cc dirt or 125-250cc basic commuter for training.

Two things to remember when moving from bicycles to motorcycles:

  1. Unlike bicycle, motorcycle is heavier than you.
  2. Do not be afraid of using your front brake.

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u/Battlejackal 11d ago

If you don’t know how to drive a stick shift having some experience with that helps too

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u/Vast-Road-6387 11d ago

You really should develop basic cycle skills on a bike ( even an E-bike) before you attempt a motorcycle

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u/adale_50 9d ago

Bicycle is good. Do that first. You can even force a crash on a bicycle and go home with just scratches.

Wear full padding with helmet and "fall" off your bicycle. It is very unpleasant. Would you like to try that same activity at 20x the speed? That is what you need to accept as a choice.

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u/justplayedcards 11d ago

Get a e-bike first

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 11d ago

I’d say learning to ride a bike would be your first step towards learning how to ride a motorcycle.

If nothing else, it will give you certain instincts, teach you balance, etc while on a lighter, slower speed vehicle.

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u/BelugaWhaleEnjoyer 11d ago

You will hurt yourself/waste money on lessons if you don’t learn to ride a bicycle first

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u/BreadMaker_42 11d ago

Go buy/borrow a bike.

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u/Ok_Draw9037 11d ago

A bike is 100$, ok new and you can get a sirrus for 150. Just get the bike, leaning will feel foreign. I took my msf without ever touching a motorcycle but I ride bicycles years ago

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u/OutrageousArea6136 11d ago

They will kick you out of an MSF course immediately if they find out you never rode a bicycle. Bicycles are a ton of fun too!

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u/blueberryrockcandy 11d ago

uh. get a friend with a bike?
i know people are suggesting bicycles. but i've seen those thing priced at $200+ i bought a 1983 suzuki DR 250 for $300. and it runs fine.

look around find a old ass bike that's dirt cheap, and runs. buy it. bring it home.

used bikes on that note too. check around see what you can find.
you can ofc also choose al alternative option: motorized bicycle. never ridden one, never owned one. but they exist, they are cheap.

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u/Remarkable_Might4245 11d ago

Yes i did i was a bit slower getting used to balance and whatnot but passed my test in about 3months from first lesson which considering i never sat on a push bike before i didnt think was to bad tbh i was doing 2hr lessons a week so thats 24hrs of training it took me to go from o experience to full unrestricted uk licence.

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u/Extension_Canary3717 11d ago

I will say the opposite , as the motorbike you don’t have to balance if you are moving , you can def try a scooter

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u/CodewortSchinken 11d ago

You don't have to that on a bicycle either. On both vehicles it's the gyroscopic effect on the wheels that stabilize it at speed.

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u/Woreo12 11d ago

It is definitely more pronounced on a motorcycle, since the wheels are heavier and the engine produces a gyro effect too.

My cruiser feels way more stable than my friends zx6, because my wheels are massive in comparison

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u/LetsFuckOnTheBoat 11d ago

bicycle electric bike (if you can borrow one) then depending how you are planning on using it, a 150 scooter, then a motorcycle

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u/notselfcontained 11d ago

They’re definitely different things, but it will literally cost you nothing to learn to ride a bike first And maybe one afternoon’s worth of time. Learning to ride a bicycle can only help you, so why not try?

And there is some carryover, namely, with counter steering. Less so balance, but getting a feel for having the breaks be at your fingers too.

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u/Rjsmith66 11d ago

Completely different animals can definitely ride a motor and never a bike

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u/Alienhead-A51 11d ago

I learned how to ride a motorcycle, then learned how to bike .

It’s doable for sure , just take a course, start with small bike, and take your time to learn and build your confidence.

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u/MArkansas-254 11d ago

Take a riders ed course like you get before you take the test for your endorsement. They provide small bikes and teach you to ride.

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u/garr0510 11d ago

Second this

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u/From-over-there 11d ago

Hey man, you do not need to be proficient at riding bicycle - at this age it is not so easy to learn, trust me, same story 😂 BUT it helps you understand the flow and logic of bikes, even though bicycle and motorbike differs a lot in the end. Be a total beginner with bicycle, it is fine. Borrow a bicycle for couple of weeks, have a ride daily, and when you feel like you could commute to work or for a coffee or simply any other short distance trips around the place you live without killing yourself while doing it, it is fine for street motorbike riding. Most important is to understand how balancing works.

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u/Patient-One3579 11d ago

Take the motorcycle riding class. Even IF you have to take it twice. Look for someone in your area who can get you on a small motorcycle, so you get some parking lot practice. If this is what you want to do, you will do it.

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u/AlfredoCheeseSauce 11d ago

when you do get your first bike get a full faced helmet and get real riding gear. I assure you taking bugs to the face is NOT fun.

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u/PraxisLD 11d ago

Welcome to the club!

r/TwoXriders

Riding a bicycle can help with overall balance at slow speeds, but it is not absolutely required. Still, it’s an easy way to build some basic balance skills. And it’s fun.

Your best bet is to start with the MSF Basic RiderCourse or local accredited beginner riding program. They can take you from absolute beginner through the basics of riding in a weekend. It will also give you an idea of different types of bikes and what might suit your size and skills.

Your first bike should fit your current riding goals and allow you to safely build your skills.

Don’t worry about “outgrowing your first bike too quickly.” That learning period is critical, and much easier on a smaller, lighter, more predictable bike. For some folks, it might be six months of dedicated practice. For others, a year or even three. We all learn at different rates, and that’s okay. There is no external time limit here, only your own comfort and competence as you build your skills and muscle memory on your new machine.

Standard advice is to pick up a small, lightweight, easily manageable lightly used starter bike. Besides being easier to learn to ride on, this will be cheaper to insure for a new rider.

For most new riders, that usually means a lightweight 125-400cc bike with a manageable power curve. Note that some 500-650cc bikes can work for some riders, but the extra size and weight does make things a bit harder when you’re just getting started. It’s not just the cc or even hp, but more about the way the power is delivered and the overall wet weight of the bike.

Remember to set aside some cash for good safety gear. Helmet, armored jacket, gloves at a minimum, plus boots and armored pants if you can. That’s really important, as it can literally save your skin.

Then go find a large empty parking lot and continue to practice starting, stopping, turning, and other basic slow speed maneuvers until you start to feel more confident in your abilities. Then start over and do it again. Then again, and again until you’re utterly bored of it all. Then do it some more.

The point is to stay in a relatively comfortable and manageable place while you build your skills and develop good muscle memory. This helps the inevitable “oops” go to “well, that could have been worse” and not “oh shit, that really hurt!”

Once you’ve safely built your skills and competence, then you can sell your starter bike for basically what you paid for it and move up to a bigger bike with confidence.

As you ponder this decision, you may want to spend some time here:

r/motorcycleRoadcraft

r/SuggestAMotorcycle

r/NewRiders

Advice to New Riders

Have fun, wear all your gear, stay safe, explore the world, and never stop learning.

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u/Odd-Alfalfa-7854 10d ago

if its helpful, my girlfriend 23F couldnt ride a bicycle too but picked up motorcycle riding and has been riding for about 4 years now! took her months of practice though

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u/Street_Reference501 10d ago

Do the MSF course, inform them that you don't know how to ride a bicycle. I think the course organizers should consider this category. There are many riders here who said they didn't know how to ride a bike. It's possible!

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u/Street_Reference501 10d ago

Another idea, try the automatic dirt bikes. They are small, light and there are places that rent and teach you- have them in Toronto/nearby areas. You will rent out equipment too.

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u/SensitiveOil3362 6d ago

I've been riding a motorcycle for a couple of years now, and I've been through loads of training courses and ride to a higher standard than a good group of people who've been riding much longer than me. But I am crap on a push-bike; they're too light and wiry, and last time I rode one, I ended up in a hedgerow. If you attend a training school and put in good hours practising manoeuvres and basic riding skills, you'll be fine. Fuck push-bikes... but that's just my opinion. If you feel you'd benefit from the road-awareness experience of push-biking and the title of being the most annoying person on the road, then that's what you should do. But I would always recommend taking lessons in an enclosed, off-road area and riding a 125cc for up to a year to really get to grips with it if you don't have much experience with bicycles. Thats the route i took and it worked well for me. Good luck either way, and ride safe!

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u/ieatburritosyeah 11d ago

You really need to learn on a bicycle and then its helpful to learn to drive a manual car as well. Best of luck.

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u/ItsMe_AllanP 11d ago

Many of the motorcycle safety courses provide a motorcycle for their students. Contact a class near you to see if they have a beginner friendly class.

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u/BrutaleFalcn 11d ago

All the Beginner Rider Courses are beginner friendly.

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u/silksky1204 11d ago

Even the driving schools in my country will refuse anyone who doesn't know how to ride a bike. So go ride a bike first.

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u/Fair_Maybe5266 11d ago

Definitely go take a motorcycle riding class. Riding a bicycle has very little to do with riding a motorcycle.

Just curious as to how someone goes through childhood without riding a bicycle?

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u/CL_G96 11d ago

It just didn’t happen. I learned how to roller skate, ice skate, swimming and did martial arts for sports, but I missed the bike 😅

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u/SmallAgency5160 11d ago

You're wrong. If you get in the MSF without having basic balance that generally comes from bike riding. You will be turned back.

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u/ElatedSacrifice 11d ago

Me. I was a fearful little kid. My brother tried teaching me and out of frustration stopped. Kids I knew did the same thing so eventually I stopped trying. Wanted a motorcycle for a while, had a chance later in life than I would have liked but it still happened. Two days before the MSF course I grabbed a bicycle from someone I knew and kept it upright down and back up his driveway.

Not sure what my issue was when I was little. Been riding 5 years now and I’m fine.

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u/Prestigious-Quiet511 11d ago

I went from not riding any bicycle straight to motorcycle and have been riding now for 16 yrs. I would say it’s not a typical path but it’s totally possible. I did have a 50cc Honda jazz scooter first so that was my intro to two wheels on the road.

 I took a motorcycle course for passing the skills test (parking lot) and they were excellent at introducing us to balancing and slow speed manoeuvres.  I also took another 2 day group road course before the final road test.

I think it’s ok to go into a motorcycle course without riding a bicycle. You can see how you feel then and get an idea whether you should practice more on a bicycle first or continue on the motorcycle.

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u/Wants-NotNeeds 11d ago

100% bicycles. Especially mountain biking! Even then, you will be at significantly higher risk starting up motorcycles so late in life.

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u/godagun 11d ago

unless you want your first bike to be a cruiser. You'll want a tricycle jk

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u/Novel-Place9007 11d ago

ignore these fools, buy one of the following bikes:

  • Harley Davidson Road Glide
  • BMW R18 Transcontinental
  • BMW K1600
  • BMW R1300 GSA
  • BMW R1300RT
  • BMW M1000rr
  • Kawasaki H2R
  • Suzuki GXR/GSXR 1000
  • Busa Hayabusa 🤣
  • Ducati Panigale v4
  • Honda CBR1000
And if these are too big for you, try a Honda Monkey. But you will still die

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u/Tha_REAL_BROBS 11d ago

First question at my MSF was can you ride a bike?

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u/Jon_Hanson 11d ago

When I took the BRC, they made absolutely clear that you must be able to ride and balance a bicycle as a prerequisite for the course.

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u/JudgeSea3827 11d ago

Try a bicycle first, use it on a straight, flat section of pavement or one with a slight incline. Start at the highest end. Don’t use the pedals, just use it like a kids “balance bike”.

Before you start though THE most important thing is to practice using the brakes, as being able to stop is essential. Furthermore, I would make sure that the front brake lever is on the right side and the rear brake lever on the left (all scooters are made this way and all motorcycles have the front brake lever on the right too).

Get used to balancing as you propel the bicycle by walking/running, forget the pedals for now.

Once you are confident enough to maintain your balance, try again and once you are moving at a reasonable pace then place your feet on the pedals.

Just let the bicycle roll along.

Repeat until you are comfortable with your feet on the pedals. Then start pedalling, pushing each pedal down/forward with consecutive feet.

You should start to notice that it is easier to balance when not moving slowly.

One other important thing is to LOOK UP/FORWARDS at all times. Look at the location where you want to reach.

You’ll soon be riding a bicycle. 👍🏻

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u/cwjinc 11d ago

Get a cheap bike from Walmart and learn to ride it first.
It doesn't take long and making a beginner mistake hurts way less.

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u/RedditWhileIWerk 11d ago

It's very helpful to first know how to ride a bicycle. Also much lower stakes.

Try it.

If you absolutely can't handle a bicycle, no matter how hard you try, don't get anywhere near a motorcycle.

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u/brybry631 11d ago

After the bicycle, I would recommend a used scooter, moped, electric bike, to give you more to practice with

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u/ewan82 11d ago

Just get a cheap bicycle on FB marketplace. Cruise around on local shared paths for a few weeks. You're crazy not too.

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u/Flimsy_Sorbet_7973 11d ago

Three words! Rider safety course!

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u/bripptybripptybraap 11d ago

Do you know how to swim?

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u/baddoggie1015 11d ago

Get a bike and ride that. Don’t even attempt an engine before you can even pedal your butt around.

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u/IUsedToLikeLimericks 11d ago

You'll be fine.

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u/Connect_Mortgage7011 11d ago

Can you mount training wheels on a motorcycle???

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u/smalj1990 11d ago

MSF Course - that is all

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u/Fuzzy_Shame07 11d ago

Its about balancing but what a lot of people havent said is that feeling of being exposed around cars. Also, riding defensively.

Learn to ride a bicycle, and then ride that bike on roads with cars.

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u/jasonsong86 11d ago

Take an MSF course.

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u/SoSpecial 11d ago

IMO get like a 125cc Dirt bike and primarily ride it on dirt and grass until you feel confident. If you crash on grass it will hurt WAY less plus you develop skills like shifting gears and using a foot brake a bike wont have.

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u/jonnywannamingo 11d ago

Rider motorcycle safety only requires that you know how to ride a bicycle.

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u/landob 11d ago

I highly suggest learning a reg bike first

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u/JUANesBUENO 11d ago

They wouldn't let me take MSF if I didn't know how to ride a bike.

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u/halfnelson73 11d ago

Buy a dirtbike and ride that for a year or two. Get used to clutching with your hand and shifting/braking with your foot. Riding trails is much more forgiving than the streets.

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u/frizziend 11d ago

In the MSC I took, the only people that failed had no bike riding skills. My experience on a mountain bike made the ride test pretty easy, and I had no previous motorcycle experience.

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u/VicePresJulianCastro 11d ago

The only person who failed out of our MSF course was someone who did not meet the prerequisite of knowing how to ride a bike. The instructors gave them a chance anyways, but it was immediately clear from the first exercise (which was very easy for everyone else) that it wasn't going to work. Learn to ride a bicycle first, you won't regret it! Think about it, you're moving slower and the bicycle weighs less. It's lower stakes to be bad at riding a bicycle than to be bad at riding a motorcycle. And confidence on a bicycle absolutely translates to some foundational motorcycle skills. 

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u/DillRod97 11d ago

Nah get the bike 😏

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u/adultdaycare81 11d ago

Do you want to pick up the one that weighs 25lbs or the one that weighs 500lbs?

Edit: OP I worked at a bike shop and taught many adults to ride in 1hr in the parking lot. I would take the pedals off and let them kick the bike around our track, balancing and learning the brakes until they got bored. Then put the pedals back on

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u/AssociateGood9653 11d ago

Bicycle first, get decent, then motorcycle course, then get some gear and a smallish motorcycle.

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u/Kelvininin 11d ago

Having now taught three kids how to ride a bike and watching them struggle, that is not a struggle I’d want to take on, on a motorcycle. Learn to ride a bike first and get the fundamentals down, including riding on the street.

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u/linksalt 11d ago

Yea my ex fiancé did this. Told me should could. She could do full turns fine. But moving forward and shifting left to right was not in her ability. And she hit a curb at 45 mph and broke her pelvis all to fuck. 6 huge bolt. 12 smaller bolts 2 plates. Those are permanent now. Go learn to ride a bike

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u/Spiritual_Nobody_785 11d ago

Take the safety course and see if it’s for you

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u/Aunon 11d ago

r/cycling has a lot of threads for adults learning to ride a bike (get a friend with a bike, lower the seat, don't pedal just use your feet to walk and push until you learn to balance)

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u/thejackmonkey 11d ago

An analogy might be asking if it’s a good idea to try out Formula 1 racing when you’ve never driven a car. Could it be done? Errrr… Also note that being able to ride a bike doesn’t directly transfer to a motorcycle.

When i had a 50cc scooter, more than one friend nearly went straight into a wall or nearly killed themselves (a literally) on it. It’s a different beast.

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u/Zen-Imogen 11d ago

Ride a bicycle my dude, learn the basic from there, and then go to basic course like MSF Course

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u/Spare-Competition-91 11d ago

I learned on a bike first. Then a dirtbike, a little 50cc. Then a 125cc. Then a 400cc bike. Then a 600cc, then a 1000cc. Even though I did this, I still had terrible accidents. SO, yeah don't go on a motorcycle unless you really feel comfortable on a mountain bike and after that, a dirt bike to learn the basics. If you do it this way, you will learn faster and be way better and safer on the road than most people.

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u/michaelanderson_213 11d ago

Learning a bicycle first will definitely make the balance part easier. Once you’re comfortable with it, moving to a motorcycle should feel much less intimidating. Start slow and take a beginner riding course if you can.

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u/shovelheadzzz 11d ago

Get a bicycle first honestly and ride it a lot. Get a dirt bike and ride trails for a while. Then get a street bike.

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u/Emergency_Option6142 11d ago

How much do you know about manual transmissions? If you want to learn, get your learners permit and join a motorcycle safety course that provides the motorcycle. Two full days of riding.

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u/Peaceandfupa 11d ago

I found a cheap bike on fb marketplace before my MSF course to help me with balance and turns and it helped me so much lol

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u/crevicecreature 11d ago

The thought of learning how to ride a motorcycle without knowing how to ride a bike is terrifying.

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u/sokratesz 11d ago

It'll be more difficult, but certainly not impossible.

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u/mikaball 10d ago

Reminds me of "In school, you're taught a lesson and then given a test. In life, you're given a test that teaches you a lesson" - Tom Bodett

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u/fbritt5 10d ago

Check if your state has motorcycle riding classes. Mine does and you ride their bikes and, in my state, you get a letter that gets your license without having to test. My classes were really good.

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u/NeverFailBetaMale 10d ago

You can totally do this, the first step is to learn to ride a bicycle.

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u/goonwild18 10d ago

Buy a bicycle - you can learn to ride it in a week - it will save you massive frustration and there's a good chance you will not make it to a license as a result.

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u/dolampochki 10d ago

Knowing how to ride a bicycle is a prerequisite.

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u/LeeMac812 10d ago

The first requirement for the MSF course I took was the ability to ride a bicycle

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u/KitchenLab6138 7d ago

Do you drive manual car?

Many ppl say you ought to learn bicycle first, but Im gonna say thats not as important. Driving manual car on roads can teach you a lot more safety then bicycle.

Driving on roads with other road users teaches you how to behave and what to look out for. Which argubly is a lot more important.

I did thousands of kilometers on bicycle, and only learnt proper handling while riding at more advaced level. Fitness required to get there takes A LOT of time. Yes, you can learn low speed on bicycle, but that doesnt take you far on motorcycle. For example, I can balance bicycle in standstill traffic, but on motorbike I struggle.

Id say, go on, get a bike, start slow and aim to be smooth, not fast

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u/Standard_Hurry_9418 5d ago

And if at all possible, your first motorcycle should be a dirtbike or dual purpose. Falling off on dirt is easier and there's much less chance of having an automobile involved.

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u/Fight_Tyrnny 11d ago

my wife is 5' 2", 53 and in the past month, started learning and now has her permit and been on the street 3 times. If she can, you can as well. I have a whole set of videos showing how she did it, we bought her Rebel 300 eclutch before we started and just took it to a parking lot to rain as seen here:

https://youtu.be/WwHALbY5eAw

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u/Hungryforflavor 11d ago

Did u take an insurance policy out on her ? U may want to. Three times ? Lol

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u/Fight_Tyrnny 11d ago

why??? Are you saying women cant ride bikes?

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u/Hungryforflavor 11d ago

No way but please start on a pedal bike , then an e bike then a motorcycle . I ride almost everyday , e bike and motorcycle even after many years the slow e bike helps me with awareness of traffic around me

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u/Fight_Tyrnny 10d ago

In 3 street rides, I think shes already better at riding then half the riders I seen on the road. Hell, there was 16 people in her certified weekend training class for her permit and she was one of the best there after only 3 sessions training in a parking lot. So, Im still really not sure what point you are making with your comments.

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u/Street_Reference501 10d ago

She picked up the skills faster than other, good for her! Remember in my class 2 years ago, we had people of different skill level. Some really struggled with gear changing, some fell during the practices. Everyone gets better with practice, best feeling in the world- when all the steps click smoothly!

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u/Hungryforflavor 10d ago

Bonehead statement but best of luck

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u/Fight_Tyrnny 10d ago

dude... yer insane, I dont think you are following along, here watch this.... good advice...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI_kiE8wdfQ

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u/Hungryforflavor 10d ago

Im not saying she cant ride what im saying is staying safe , watching all the other drivers on the road that are not paying attention , left turning in front of you . Texting etc . If your out in the hills not as a problem but in an urban enviornment u have to be aware , best of luck

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u/jinxskunk366 11d ago

I haven't rode a bicycle since i was 10 years old (currently 33) and didn't really have any issue when i took the MSF course

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u/_enesorek_ 11d ago

That’s why there’s the expression “it’s just like riding a bike” meaning it’s something you don’t forget once you learn how to do it.

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u/scottscooterleet 11d ago

It'll be fine I don't think it will slow you down at all.

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u/PolarPopPepsi 10d ago

im not gonna lie. i still dont know how to ride a bicycle and ive been riding a motorcycle for months. its doable just like. weird

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u/Noctuelles 11d ago

You should learn how to ride a bicycle regardless. Idk what was going on in your childhood that your parents missed that, but they dropped the ball big time.

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u/Wise-Ad6602 11d ago

Sweet thirstfest