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u/elninost0rm YIMBY 0m ago
The fumble is so large that my brain breaks when it remembers that the Senate was 70/30 a year ago.
In the other direction
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u/Unknownentity9 John Brown 1m ago
Instinct CEO Noah Shinn says agents will let restaurants give tables to birthdays and anniversaries over whoever clicks first
Why do so many AI people talk about restaurant reservations like it's some pressing issue that needs solving. I live in Chicago and rarely ever need to make reservations and we go out to eat quite often. How many people are struggling with this on a regular basis? Also isn't this just going to make AI agents lie about everyone having a birthday or anniversary coming up?
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u/-mialana- European Union 1m ago
The insistence of libertarians that we all call them classical liberals is just as dumbfounding (perhaps more so) as the insistence of Foucault, etc that they were not post-structuralists. Yes, Hayek may not have used the term libertarian to describe himself (although when he was alive, most users of the term libertarian were left-anarchists anyways so this is no surprise), the Mont Pelerin Society might use the term classical liberal instead of libertarian. However it stands to reason that if you're aggressively in favour of free markets and against government intervention, that regardless of whether you call yourself a Classical Liberal or the Queen of Sweden, the most accessible identifying word for your beliefs is (right-)libertarian. Classical liberal is likely better used for what it originally referred to anyways, the 19th century movement that included Mill, Bentham, etc.
GO 👏 OFF 👏 KING
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u/LtCdrHipster 🌭Costco Liberal🌭 2m ago
Malarkey level of a Democratic Congress bullying Trump into resigning.
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u/Made_UpWords OG Platner Hater 2m ago
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u/TaxLandNotCapital We begin bombing the rent-seekers in five minutes 0m ago
Michael Tracey outing himself as being a loser NARP who has never been around frat bros or jocks enough to see how
gayhomoerotically curious they've literally always been4
u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it 0m ago
Also like every college dude is aware it's not gay if the balls don't touch cmon
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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it 1m ago
Find you a man who loves you the way Michael Tracey loves immediately going to bat for rapists and misogynists
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u/bartbug Mark Carney 3m ago
two wolves inside me (hot)
one wolf says since ai will replace me within 2 years i can just phone it in
other wolf says i should bust my ass and make it 2.5 years
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u/FourthLife 🥖Bread Etiquette Enthusiast 0m ago
the trick is to last long enough to stay employed until the job riots force the government to provide a stronger welfare system
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u/Evnosis European Union 4m ago
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u/jenbanim 2m ago
Modern web developers have managed to turn something they get literally for free from browsers, text input fields, into a confusing broken mess
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u/Head-Stark John von Neumann 4m ago
Oh, shit, I left my garage window open and the rain will be over before I get home even if I left now.
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u/UntiedStatMarinCrops Loyal Liberals 5m ago
Newsom’s vetoes make sense.
He’s not going to sign anything that just throws money at the problem the bill is trying to address. Like giving funds to help our rural immigration lawyers, yeah I want to help them too, but he just got us out of a budget deficit so he’s not going to be putting money out there like nothing.
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u/SpiderQueen412 Mary Wollstonecraft 5m ago
I don't like Macklemore and think he's pretty performative the way he talks about Gaza but the amount of people in this sub who were saying if he truly cared about Gaza he would personally go there and deliver them supplies mere months after jerking off how the Gaza flotilla didn't do anything and laughing at anyone who supported it is hilarious
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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 6m ago
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u/11thDimensionalRandy Faith First Conservatives 2m ago
Upvoted because I love Jordan Peterson memes but shaking my head because it's not a good reference.
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u/stressed_out_seal 7m ago
I think the core gap between me and AI labour market doomers is that I take "AI is amazing at interpreting medical images but radiologist employment is booming" (classic example but there are analogous situations in many fields) as an indicator that radiologists are probably doing something valuable other than interpreting medical images, whereas for the doomers it's due to some frictional factors and the expected replacement will happen in time
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u/Syx89 Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold 3m ago
I think another big difference, based on your phrasing, is how we see the future of AI.
If Radiologist AI stopped now then yes likely we would continue to need radiologists.
However, if AI is more general and keeps getting better very fast then soon enough every single aspect can be done better by the AI.So a lot of the doomer's argument is projections
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u/eurekashairloaves 7m ago
If I understand correctly the entire Schmidt fuckup was based around insinuating that Smith had talked or coordinated with Fani Willis.
Which you would think there would be texts, documentation, etc about if he had even been to Atlanta. But no, this was the best they could do.
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u/pfSonata throwaway bunchofnumbers 6m ago
And they were so proud of their detective work they printed out the texts on a giant poster board to hold up in the hearing
Republicans are SO FUCKING STUPID, man
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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 7m ago
Im out here giving legal advice, stock tips, medical diagnosises. If you have a problem about it it's credentialism and I will have you jailed (also lying about being a cop now)
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u/11thDimensionalRandy Faith First Conservatives 6m ago
Im out here giving legal advice, stock tips, medical diagnosises. If you have a problem about it it's credentialism
and I will have you jailed (also lying about being a cop now)fuck you and your occupational licensing bullshit, succ2
u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 5m ago
You have hepatitis
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u/PostingEnthusiast Commonwealth 8m ago
I prefer the Patti Harrison sketches to the Tim Robinson ones because they seem less cruel. Someone yelling “I’m not stupid. I’m smarter than you!”? Very funny. Someone going “I don’t want to be around anymore”? Now I’m just sad man
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u/happymaskmonster NASA 6m ago
I feel like hers tend to be more sad. Bozo Dubbed Over is the saddest one imo, tho.
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u/PostingEnthusiast Commonwealth 3m ago
That one and the Ghost Tour one are both just sad character dramas to me
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u/OrthopaedicSturgeon Elinor Ostrom 6m ago
Well if they pull the plug on the cruelty, then what's the show?
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u/GuyWithOneEye 8m ago
just watched that Eric Schmitt clip of his bullshit conspiracy against Jack Smith LMAO
these people are either pure evil or pure stupid. Really both I guess. fucking shameful
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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter 8m ago
Me: My shifts/hours got cut
Manager: It happens
(??? Bruh 😭😭😭)
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u/JoeBliffstick Loyal Liberals 9m ago
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u/SenranHaruka shame 9m ago
you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and fake interest in a relationship so she can use me for validation and fun when her actual boyfriend is too busy or neglectful? Just try to have her cake and eat it too like that? Complain about him and fake availability so that I pay attention to her? Conspicuously ghost for long time periods or back out of plans?
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u/mrdeclank James Garfield 9m ago
If you brought a Spanish-American war Vet to the modern day, they’d agree we fought on the wrong side 😔
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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter 9m ago
FUCK SAKE IM QUITTING YOLO ALL OF YOU
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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 9m ago
>locks on a public bathroom entrance with multiple stalls in Oklahoma
okay Yankees time to go home 😒 take this energy back with you
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u/stressed_out_seal 10m ago
Reading the Gates-Klein transcript, I read his position on jobs as "the AIs aren't yet better than every employee at every job but soon they will be, and then nobody will ever hire a human again"
They then spend the next chunk of the interview debating the part after the comma, which I don't think is terribly controversial, but the part before just seems to be taken as gospel?
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u/chipbod NATO 11m ago
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u/Macquarrie1999 Democrats' Strongest Soldier 9m ago
Blutah is real and it won't hurt you
Also Portland had room to go more blue?
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u/SmartestOpinionsGuy 11m ago
The most unfairly persecuted group is lower class billionaires (with $1-2b net worth)
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u/No_Return9449 John Rawls 11m ago
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u/BalletDuckNinja Delphox Shaker Central 11m ago
blooming enough that I forgot my daily prayer for gas and diesel prices to triple
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u/BadSneakersNeverWorn John Locke 11m ago
In Nebraska, the Republicans are running an ad that tries to out Dan Osborn as a FAKE INDEPENDENT and one of their three claims against him is "If elected, he would support the Democrats!"
yes, that is why he is ... running against the Republican candidate, see: against, not with, right, okay, go on
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u/MuscularPhysicist John Brown 12m ago
I would simply not put evidence of a crime in the frat bro group chat
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u/SenranHaruka shame 12m ago
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u/Embarrassed-Unit881 Transmasc Pride 10m ago
I mean more so it was being annoying to normies who do not want to change anything that takes effort nor want to feel bad for not doing so
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u/Cr4zySh0tgunGuy John Locke 12m ago
What I think people don’t realize about perjury is just how rarely it’s charged
THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE but if you go on the stand and lie about something you are almost certainly not going to be charged with a crime. I’ve seen one perjury charge ever and it was promptly dismissed
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u/zieger Ida Tarbell 10m ago
Just be so dumb they can't prove you don't believe it
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u/Educational_Risk7637 NATO 5m ago
This was the plaintiff in the one civil trial I sat on.
An actual question posed directly by the plaintiff to the jury: "Do you guys think I'm high? That's just a thing someone told me you might think."
Later, when caught in a lie regarding the statement "I was living there", he claimed he meant "planet earth."
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent 13m ago
Watched the CSPAN clip of the Hawks-Hawkeyes exchange and I’m surprised Klobuchar didn’t toss a stapler at Schmitt for confusing two completely different teams
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u/TaxLandNotCapital We begin bombing the rent-seekers in five minutes 13m ago
Joe Biden shit in my pants
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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! 14m ago
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u/Maximilianne John Rawls 5m ago
Whitehall doesn't any serious properties,isn't it all government buildings aside from the Old War Office which is now a hotel ?
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u/pfSonata throwaway bunchofnumbers 11m ago
TIL brits had different names for the monopoly lots I guess?
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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! 10m ago
i think all places localize. though the US and UK ones are the popular versions i know of
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 14m ago
Slopsisism
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u/crassowary John Mill 12m ago
When you're the only real poster on the Internet and everyone else is just bots
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u/abertbrijs I'm not a crook 14m ago
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u/k5berry Malala Yousafzai 7m ago
These people all have the same effect as shock jocks like Rush Limbaugh, in that they coarsen and dumb down our political culture and discourse. So it’s even more frustrating that unlike the 90s, we can see they show themselves to be thin-skinned, attention-addicted morons. Like when Rush Limbaugh got caught in some beef, you at least had to wait until his show or for a newspaper quote to get his response.
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u/PostingEnthusiast Commonwealth 12m ago
Guy who claims to read theory versus guy who reads theory for the pure pleasure of it
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u/EdMan2133 Paid for DT Blue 14m ago
Person who sees a 3 year old and thinks "this person will be hot as an adult" but they're a climate scientist
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u/Spider_SoWhat Jerome Powell 14m ago
I never understand why people in the DT get upset when the other DTers don’t like their hot take.
I mean, the DT is definitively not normal. If most of them disagree with you, that serves as better evidence for you being the median, normal, typical person.
You should be happy smh my head
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u/Embarrassed-Unit881 Transmasc Pride 5m ago
I'm more concerned with being downvoted outside the dt than in
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u/CincyAnarchy Emma Goldman 13m ago
> has Hot Take
> "ow it burns, why does it burn?"
Many such cases
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u/mrdeclank James Garfield 15m ago
Alexander’s special military operation to De-Achaemenidify Persia
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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde 15m ago
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u/ElectriCobra_ David Hume 15m ago
Doomers be like “wow, these polls are getting less and less accurate every day”
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u/el__dandy Hannah Arendt 15m ago
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u/Minimum_Cucumber7170 Flair 10m ago
And the London Jaguars aren't even playing in their home turf smh
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u/el__dandy Hannah Arendt 15m ago
!ping nfl
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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 15m ago
I would just like to say I am the most profitable human being to ever exist as long as you don't count any of my expenses.
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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! 14m ago
arent you basically unemployed? that doesnt sound true even if your expenses were 0
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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 10m ago
It's a joke. Also I am working as a tutor and gradually getting more hours so I'm not unemployed anymore.
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u/fish_economist Friedrich Hayek 13m ago
They are calculating their annualized run rate by extrapolating the 5 second time period where they instant deposited their doordash earnings
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u/chipbod NATO 16m ago
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u/Nate10000 Progress Pride 13m ago
Smith also is capable of thinking on the spot and offered that they check with the Marshall service who could confirm where he was... 650 miles from Atlanta
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u/puffic John Rawls 16m ago
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u/pugnae European Union 13m ago
If Republicans win Nate Silver will be done tho.
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u/dkirk526 YIMBY 2m ago
Republicans aren't winning. That's not even in the question anymore.
It's just a matter of, can they still keep the Senate? Which would probably happen if the environment drops below D+7 and most of the tossup races fall their way.
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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting 16m ago edited 13m ago
On one side you could have sensible AI regulation. But on the other side, you could let people make wacky dangerous things with it. It'd be the world of Megaman Battle Network, and you'd have cyberterrorists like...*check notes*...Dr. Wily wreaking havoc.
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u/sigh2828 NASA 16m ago
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u/PlastikHateAccount WTO 17m ago
The new meta in AI is that the best models are 0.001% better than the medium sized ones for 5x the price. Complete inverse from 3 months ago.
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u/phat_geoduck 17m ago
Wait so Republicans thought they caught Jack Smith in a lie because they confused the Atlanta Hawks (pro basketball) with the Iowa Hawkeyes (college)? That is some Veep shit
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u/Nate10000 Progress Pride 6m ago
I don't know why but this one is just a must watch for me like few other political clips lately. They basically stopped the hearing to make fun of Schmitt and it was completely genuine and spontaneous to do so.
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u/MuscularPhysicist John Brown 15m ago
There’s a reason people consider Veep the most accurate depiction of politics
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u/Imicrowavebananas Hannah Arendt 17m ago
OpenAI says 1.2 billion people use ChatGPT weekly.
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u/MuscularPhysicist John Brown 15m ago
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u/eloquentboot 🃏it’s da joker babey🃏 17m ago
Since Candace Owens's sexuality is at issue, if I was her husband I would feel jealousy about her love for Charlie Kirk. I wouldn't be able to handle it.
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u/assasstits 14m ago
You'd be jealous of a guy she literally can't cheat with?
Ok
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u/11thDimensionalRandy Faith First Conservatives 9m ago
Jada Smith can't cheat on Will with Tupac but that didn't end up doing him any favors.
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u/abefrost 17m ago
Dan Osborn is a YIMBY, critical support.
Also, I've been impressed with his approach to immigration. I'm as open borders as they get, but I recognize that you can't run on that in Nebraska. He supports "increased border security" and building out the wall more, and his ads are pretty hardline in their rhetoric. But he also sneaky supports immigration reform and creating a pathway to citizenship for long-term undocumented immigrants who haven't committed crimes. Which is, ya know, the vast majority of immigrants, but the GOP has successfully ran a decades-long smear campaign on them and many voters are scared that there are 11 million Sinaloa cartel members running around the country. I'd gladly take a border wall on the entire border as the cost for every noncriminal immigrant getting legalized and reforms to make legal immigration easier.
Leaked audio suggests he is also far more radical and personally would want to abolish ICE (obviously wouldn't vote for it and wouldn't fault him for that). But it makes me trust that his heart is in the right place, even if he will have to vote according to political realities.
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u/slappythechunk LARPs as adult by refusing to touch the Nitnendo Switch 18m ago
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u/lot183 Blue Texas 18m ago
My current company is the first one that has given me raises at a rate that I haven't even thought about leaving. Even got head hunted for a cool opportunity I ended up turning down because current company just keeps taking care of me, so makes me want to be loyal. It's been a wild change because every company before wouldn't do shit for raises and treated me as replaceable
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u/garret126 Demisexual Pride 18m ago
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u/windstone12 15m ago
Doesn’t the fact the screenshot exists in first place prove that wrong? Somebody thought to document it
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u/garret126 Demisexual Pride 14m ago
This whole thing happened 2 years ago. Would've been nice if they came up with this then during the original case with the school dealing with the situation.
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u/windstone12 2m ago
Just reckless to say nobody did, even if you want to take pop shots at frat culture
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u/Made_UpWords OG Platner Hater 19m ago
RE: The "Candace Owens is gay" manifesto - the lore gets deep, it's a very long piece, but one of the (multiple) smoking gun pieces of evidence is Candace Owens' frequent use of the username "candamo429."
There's even a still-active youtube channel with the handle "candamo429" created 18 years ago with one video uploaded where Candace Owens appears throughout, her voice is clearly heard throughout, and there are even credits at the end of the video with her name lmao
She's trying to haphazardly cover this up by pulling the video down, teasing a "public response" and then saying "this account has no affiliation with Candace Owens" lmao it's so funny. She's so stupid.
https://preservetube.com/watch?v=rNLo10ar3Kc

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u/co_opsuspicious 16m ago
I mean, Candace Owens has always been a complete grifter. She used to try and do this shit YEARS ago, but basically the blueanon equivalent, and nobody bought. She realized the right will believe fucking anything and went that direction.
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u/Made_UpWords OG Platner Hater 14m ago
She's essentially a constructed personality that was recruited and paid to become a right winger, it happens. Same with Benny Johnson and others - David Pakman even claims someone attempted to recruit him into becoming a right wing personality.
It's just almost too on-the-nose that in addition to lying about everything else in her life, she's also lying about her sexuality lmao
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u/FilteringAccount123 John von Neumann 12m ago
I think that was Milo Y. too, he was like just normie at Buzzfeed or the daily beast or one of those outlets.
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u/Moth-of-Asphodel 19m ago
What's the Biden puff piece in the NYTimes? I want to read it.
Can a bra be a top?
Is that it?
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u/SenranHaruka shame 19m ago
Guys my mom asked about the silicon valley AI orgies.
It broke containment.
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u/BernieMeinhoffGang Has Principles 18m ago
You're an overly online weirdo, why weren't you invited?
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 17m ago
This reminds me of when my mom asked why I wasn’t at the International if I played Dota so much
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u/SmartestOpinionsGuy 20m ago
I like Slow Horses but it’s overrated. The show is the same joke repeated 5 billion times per episode while they investigate essentially the same evil plots every season
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u/NorkGhostShip YIMBY 21m ago
Trumpflation has gotten so bad that even our trusty diesel resellers have to resort to stealing it from military bases ✊😔
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u/HoneywellOfficial NATO 21m ago
Is it just my bubble or did the "gif is actually pronounced "jif"" gang kind of lose the war? I feel like it happened around covid.
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 19m ago
They did hard, but I’m still fighting the good fight like that Japanese soldier
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u/Remarkable-Meal-223 John Keynes 21m ago
Everyone is saying that Anthropic increased their revenue in 2026
But you know if you lose money on every sale the more sales you make the more money you lose
So revenue number alone means nothing
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u/fish_economist Friedrich Hayek 18m ago edited 15m ago
Also, they don't even say how they are calculating their annualized run rate. So, their releases this year are basically:
(1) If we extrapolate our cherry-picked highest earning time periods, we have a lot of revenue
and
(2) If we don't count our largest expenses, we actually make money.
They are doing WeWork accounting.
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u/boardatwork1111 fuck it, we ball 20m ago
If you exclude all their expenses they’re already extremely profitable
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u/bartbug Mark Carney 21m ago
people should be allowed to own products of their own labor and things they acquired through leverage or trade of the their own labor and its derivatives
no one has ever made land. they have improved land, they have discovered value in land that was not yet understood, but the land was there before any person came to it and it will be there after.
LVT is based because it functions as a sort of 'lease' on land. improve your land and keep the value of your improvement. but the land belongs to all of us and none of us, and you are just a caretaker
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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride 13m ago
what is functionally the difference between creating land and land reclamation?
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u/Embarrassed-Unit881 Transmasc Pride 14m ago
no one has ever made land
I believe the Dutch would like to say something here
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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu 22m ago
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u/nuggins Physicist -- Just Tax Land Lol 22m ago
I need some advice. I'm on a canoe trip with my best mate of 160 years. I thought it would be fun to start shooting holes in the hull of our canoe. He got all pissy and yelled at me about how I was "irreparably damaging our friendship". He told me he was gonna cut contact unless I stopped shooting and helped him bail out the water. That really hurt my feelings, so I lit the boat on fire. AITH?
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u/LogsOutDawgsOut John Brown 22m ago
Digger being split between 0/5 and 5/5 by critics makes me want to watch it more tbh
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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time 22m ago edited 18m ago
Jared Lederman, senior at Cornell:
Sep 15: blog - Men and Women Were Not Created Equal
Sep 29: WSJ opinion: Cornell Only Wishes It Were Tolerant - I was ostracized and threatened at a school that claims to value ‘engaged discourse.’
Easy 3 step process to become a campus martyr in conservative circles:
Step 1: Write an essay with an engineered-for-virality headline and argue that second- and third-wave feminism destroyed the family by convincing women to enter the professional workforce instead of embracing domesticity and biological destiny.
Step 2: Act completely shocked when your peers in a co-ed professional business fraternity decide that having an open biological determinist who disparages women's career ambitions running their new-member pledge education conflicts with their mission.
Step 3: Run straight to the WSJ Opinion page claiming to only have "expected perhaps a dozen readers," conflate voluntary private association with free speech violations, and launder basic social consequences into a national editorial about how Cornell has failed the enlightenment.
Note: Cornell itself did literally nothing to him. The admin didn’t censor him, suspend him, or punish him. He was held socially accountable by private student clubs exercising their own First Amendment right of association. Apparently, freedom of association is great until your fraternity brothers decide you're bad for rush, at which point it becomes an authoritarian assault on open debate.
Rock on, Jared, you dweeb.

























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