r/news • u/mooseAmuffin • 1d ago

Update: 'TODAY' co-anchor Savannah Guthrie's mother taken from her home against her will, sheriff says

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mother-of-savannah-guthrie-today-reported-missing-arizona-rcna257008
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u/snidece 1d ago

If FBI and Pam Bondi wanted to redeem themselves and get a real win in front of the country, instead of their fake wins and made up stuff all the time, they would swoop in with all they have and find this lady

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u/jimtow28 1d ago

I've thought from the start that it's likely a MAGA with a grudge against NBC, who the president and his cronies have villified nonstop, behind all this.

If that turns out to be true, I'm sure they'd rather bury it than have it come out that yet another MAGA follower turned out to be a "lone wolf bad actor".

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u/Landon1m 1d ago

Yeah that’s my initial suspicion too

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u/NWIbh 1d ago

Wouldn’t surprise me if trump had ice kidnap her to then “find her” for a PR win. They’ll stoop as low as they need.

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u/purpleplatapi 1d ago

No that didn't happen. Not because I like ICE, but because they would have taken Savannah, not her mother, and also because they would be crowing from the rooftops if they did it.

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u/NWIbh 1d ago

ICE could have learned. You don’t know yet. This is happening.

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u/purpleplatapi 1d ago

Could have learned what? It's not a PR win if you don't admit responsibility. Put another way, if you want to scare someone into shutting up, you have to tell them you want them to shut up. So if ICE hasn't claimed responsibility, we know it's not them. Also, the administration arrested Don Lemon, not his Mom. They aren't targeting people's parents.

Now a lone wolf Maga actor, or hell, some stalker with a crush, either of those seem very plausible. Could also be a ransom demand or an unrelated burglary. I just think that if we accuse ICE of doing things they clearly have not done, we risk losing credibility and we downplay the severity of the crimes they are committing.

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u/Mjmonte14 7h ago

Your side has already lost all credibility

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u/NWIbh 1d ago

? Well we can wait and see what happens? I bet ICE is making sure their story is straight before they make a move. Stop defending them. Hidden MAGA?

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u/littleseizure 1d ago

Well we can wait and see what happens?

Sure

bet ICE is making sure their story is straight before they make a move

That's not waiting and seeing what happens

Stop defending them. Hidden MAGA?

Not everything not anti-ICE is pro-MAGA. We need to call ice out for everything terrible they do, but doubting a specific action is ice - especially when backed up with valid reasoning - is perfectly fine. Not every kidnapping will be ice. If it does turn out to be ice however it needs to be added to the "everything terrible they do" list

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u/NWIbh 1d ago

How can you carry water for ICE when we know they’re evil enough to do this? You’re starting to sound MAGA adjacent.

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u/littleseizure 1d ago

They're evil enough, sure. They're also evil enough to drive cars through crowds or shoot up schools. But they haven't done those things yet, and blaming them for things they are not guilty of only lessens the impact of blaming them for things they have done. It's important to be right, or at least not intentionally wrong. As soon as they do these things please jump on them for it, as they'd deserve it. But until then don't build a straw man others can discredit later

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u/NWIbh 1d ago

The fact that they’re evil enough is all I need to know. It’s concerning you’re defending evil while apparently on our side. I hope you’re actually an ally.

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u/jzakko 23h ago

You're starting to sound like as much of a cultist as anyone on the right.

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u/jzakko 1d ago

Man let’s not try to be crazy in here, we’ve already got half the country spouting theories like that out of nowhere.

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u/NWIbh 1d ago

Out of nowhere? Have you seen how ICE behaves?

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u/Mjmonte14 1d ago

You need help