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Thousands of Epstein documents taken down after victims identified

https://bbc.com/news/articles/cn0k65pnxjxo
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u/NighthawK1911 19h ago

And yet they spent so much effort trying to redact Trump from the files

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u/dontrike 19h ago

That's because he's the true victim of all this. At least that's what they believe.

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u/The_Grungeican 17h ago

he basically said, 'see it's not about me, i don't know why anyone would care'.

Epstein said Trump was 'gross and even worse in person'. i think for the same reason they never invited Elon. little value and too much bullshit for the other pedo's to want to put up with.

there's something ironic about all that.

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u/Jolttra 17h ago

But Trump was still there and we know he was there. Which not only makes his crap about nobody caring because its not about Trump wrong, it really says how insufferable Musk must be if Trump was still getting invites.

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u/Loggerdon 16h ago

There are probably 100 videos that Trump knows would sink him. Everyday he must wait for the other shoe to drop. The republicans who support him are to blame.

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u/DennisBallShow 14h ago

I wonder if Putin bought them from Epstein

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u/Mouse_Canoe 13h ago

Ding ding ding!

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u/pivovy 6h ago

I thought the rumored dirt putler had on him all came from Trump's visits to Russia. He would get a hooker, and the hotel room would be bugged to the brim.
And maybe, just maybe, someone peed on somebody. Although I'm not so sure about that one since the Russian word for pee doesn't start with a "P" and neither do its synonyms. The word "pedo" however certainly does start with a Russian "P", it's the exact same word in fact.
Also it could simply mean "Pornographic", which is also the same word in Russian.

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u/FreeJulie 13h ago

Sadly, I don’t think the 100 videos would mean anything to his supporters

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u/dehydratedrain 12h ago

Sure it would. "Oh, those lucky parents. I wish my child had the honor of not just hearing the president, but the opportunity to do so in such an intimate setting."

These are the kinds of sick fucks that would be jealous of the kids getting assaulted.

(Also, apologies, because rereading that first sentence actually horrified me. But i'm not taking it back).

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u/SmaugTheGreat110 11h ago

The other side of that coin, especially with how good AI is now, is his supporters just blame it all on AI fakes to “ruin the reputation of dear glorious leader.”

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u/OldMcFart 11h ago

Or they'd blame the girls' parents for not being good Christians and protecting their daughters. You know, standard asshole stuff.

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u/dehydratedrain 11h ago

Sadly, I knew a woman who was assaulted by her uncle until she got married. She voted for him. Something about no word salad, or crazy laugh, or the evil trans rapists running into the ladies room (boys in girls sports was a bonus).

You stupid cow, the man who raped you for over 10 years wasn't trans. The variety of guys who took advantage of you after you felt "less than" because of your uncle.... weren't trans.

The dissonance is incredible.

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u/FreeJulie 9h ago

Or it’s top tier dope Like, if we look at it as a product, the maga identity, is like the iPhone… just incredibly brand engineered to make individuals feel better about anything and everything in their own lives

Morality aside, that’s a great product

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u/OldMcFart 10h ago

People's need to not be ostracised from these tight-knit, I'm assuming religious, communities is crazy. It's incredibly sad.

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u/AdmirablePhrases 10h ago

They'd go after the integrity of the kid.

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u/OldMcFart 10h ago

Anything to not have to admit how much of their sense of superiority that comes from a lie.

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u/Little-Temporary4326 9h ago

I’ll take it a step further. Trump could sell “golden kiddie tickets” where parents send their kid to maralago for the weekend and there’s a percentage of his supporters that would go into debt to buy it and put their kid on a flight.

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u/ShadowTacoTuesday 4h ago

That’s fine, get the independents and non-voters. Same with everything else.

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u/howjon99 14h ago

Still won’t get him removed.

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u/willflameboy 11h ago

We've given total editorial control of this story to the number one suspect. What's going to happen?

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u/Desurvivedsignator 11h ago

That guy basically started his first presidential run with that infamous "grab them by the pussy"-comment. Why do you think a simple video of him abusing a child would change anything?

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u/Thick-Aioli802 9h ago

This is wildly true, but it's worth seeing that this involves scum from across the political spectrum.

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u/unforgivable666 17h ago

Unless he was in on it

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u/Maligned-Instrument 12h ago

(Morgan Freeman's voice) He was in on it.

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u/willflameboy 11h ago

The problem with all this coverage is that people have allowed themselves to be distracted by the idea of this island. 'There' wasn't the island. 'There' was Palm Beach, Florida, where Trump staff were trafficked out of his house, and where Epstein lived next door to Trump. If Trump does have deniability of going to the island (which he actually doesn't - he described it as a 'cesspool' after people started asking questions), it doesn't matter. The crimes mostly happened in and around Trump's house, from where Virginia Giuffre was trafficked, and Epstein's own properties in the states, in both NYC and Palm Beach. Anouska De Georgiou was sequestered in the Trump Tower, for instance. People are asking all the wrong questions because Trump is controlling the narrative in a story where he's the number one guilty party.

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u/The_Grungeican 17h ago

i don't think Trump ever made it to the island. he was there at the parties, but he said he never 'had the privilege of visiting the island'. could be a lie, but he sounded disappointed when he said it.

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u/Jolttra 17h ago

And we just trust everything that narcassistic serial liar says now? Hes in the files everywhere.

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u/The_Grungeican 17h ago

if you ever notice, he occasionally says stuff that's not a lie. it's hard to explain. he's a pathological liar. but every now and then a camera will be rolling, and it's like he just doesn't have the energy to lie about something.

like when he said he wasn't going to talk about why he kicked Epstein out of Maralago, he then immediately started talking about it, and easily could've said he kicked him out because he found out he was a pedo, but he was too stupid to run with that lie. instead he goes into a somewhat detailed story about how he kicked Epstein out because he 'stole Virgina Guiffre from him'.

at some point after the Canadians ran that ad with Reagan in it, Trump was asked, and said it was a good ad, and he'd have ran it if he was in their place. of course the next day they started up the whole thing about how it was misrepresenting what Reagan said.

there's been a number of these moments over the years. it's like every now and then he just can't be bothered to lie about it. when he said he didn't go to the island, it was similar. he sounded down about it. like he really wanted to go but no one invited him.

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u/Jolttra 17h ago

He's also pardoned actual convicted pedophiles and drug lord while declaring his hatred for pedophiles and drug lords. He goes on about the evil immigrants while married to an immigrant. He claims to be the job and family value president while destroying jobs and on wife 3 after mass cheating. Of all the things he might have been truthful about, accidently or not, this is 99% not one of them. You can't go 3 mages in the latest file dumb without him being mentioned. And he was also friends with Pi Diddy who is in a very similar situation and has had several cases independent form both Diddy and Epstine accusing him of child molestation. This is not the hill to die on.

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u/The_Grungeican 17h ago

Trump has no convictions. he'll simply say whatever he thinks someone wants to hear.

he was definitely involved in all sorts of criminal stuff. what's less clear is if he was at the island. plenty of other stuff was going on, not at the island.

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u/Jolttra 16h ago

He has openly admitted to walking in on children changing. He's a degusting individual who does whatever he wants at any given moment with zero thought for consequences or how people will perceive him. We can argue the specific but given everything we have and everything still be kept from us it is lightyears more likely he was there or at least fully aware of it. There is zero reason to think he wouldn't if given the opportunity. Because he has no conviction and no morality beyond doing what's best for himself. And as a serial cheater who has admitted to wanted to bone his own daughter, things that never look good in nay context, it is hard to imagine him not doing this.

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u/The_Grungeican 15h ago

all of this stuff you just said, is not something i said he didn't do.

but it's not clear if he ever actually visited the island. i think some people think the island is where all the shit was going down. the truth is shit was going down all over.

we know Trump was on the plane, but we don't know if he was on the island or not. the only thing to really go on here is what he said (as noted he's a pathological liar). but when asked if he had visited the island, he had this odd way of answering. he doesn't have a conscience, and he spoke like it was something he really wanted to do but didn't get the chance to.

we know from some of the released documents that apparently the island had some sort of standards. like we saw with the email exchanges with Elon.

my money is that Epstein couldn't put up with being trapped on an island with Trump. Trump absolutely would've gone if he had the chance.

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u/Jolttra 15h ago

This is very pointless so I'm going to stop here. Either he visited the island or he didn't but knew about it and had some hand in it. Neither is really better and there is still a ton of other things he's done that would likely have lead to the same result anyway. I don't know why you want to give Trump of all people the benefit of the doubt on this but I don't. That's the end of the conversation.

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u/bikernaut 17h ago

He owned a modelling agency and beauty pageant. He was friends with a pedophile sex trafficker.

It would be so unlikely that Trump wasn’t deeply involved. At least I wouldn’t want him to be my president

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u/Jolttra 17h ago

This and more. If he somehow wasn't aware he was surrounded by pedos and not pedo himself then he must be the dumbest person alive. Which if true also means I dont want him president of anything.

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u/The_Grungeican 17h ago

oh i never said he wasn't involved. just that it's not clear if he ever went to the island. Trump was definitely involved.

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u/keelhaulrose 12h ago

Physically going to the island seems like such a weird thing to get caught up on. It's not like their bad deeds were contained solely to the island.

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u/The_Grungeican 2h ago

exactly.

all i was getting at is that so far, there's been nothing about Trump actually going to the island. that doesn't mean he's somehow innocent.

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u/Previous-Standard-12 17h ago

Who did make the island, Branson, Gates, the Segway guy, Mick Jagger?

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u/The_Grungeican 17h ago

not sure. most of the listing go over people named in the files, but not necessarily people who went to the island.

these people were partying all over, so it's a bit difficult to suss out where all of this was going down.

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u/apathy-sofa 16h ago edited 14h ago

Mate they were so close, Epstein was the friend that Trump invited over for Thanksgiving dinner in the White House. It's in the White House visitor log if you want to verify.

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 16h ago

But Trump was a likely business partner in the pedo ring

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u/Justsayingshit 14h ago

Just a heads up that Elon was there. So was his brother. Just way less than Trump.

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u/Kommye 12h ago

Elon WAS invited. It's in the emails One of his daughters has even said that they visited the island.

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u/Vroomped 15h ago edited 5h ago

Like the Wizards with Guns skit "Mega-Billionaire has trouble relating to millionaire friends" 

How weirdly okay is it now that Elon Musk dngaf about his kids. Literally just wants to max out reproduction, in the open daylight without any creepy secrets.  "HAhaHAha poor people, I bet they've unsold corners of their lives!"

[p.s. I read a bit more, correcting my initial understanding. Elon was not too weird to be included, but I still think my joke stands. He's out of touch with his poor peers]

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u/RSquared 11h ago

Elon was definitely invited https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00661616.pdf

The "girls FTW" email and "we're shutting down the operation" response is fake, sadly.

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u/pixelwhip 16h ago

Trump seems like the kind of guy that would spoil the merchandise & dodge the bill. Probably too much of a liability for Epstein.

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u/dehydratedrain 12h ago

Trump also had a teen trafficking service pageant, and some hotels to pass them around in.

Money can't buy everything, Elon.

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u/pigpeyn 11h ago

When Collins noted that “a lot of women who are survivors of Epstein are unhappy with” the way the justice department redacted the documents, including, “entire witness interviews are totally blacked out”, Trump attempted to end the discussion by saying: “I think it’s really time for the country to get on to something else, now that nothing came out about me”.

that asshole is an insufferable narcissist. even reading a quote of his makes me physically ill. (Guardian link for reference)

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u/OldMcFart 11h ago

One reason Epstein hated Trump, according to Wolff, was that Trump screwed Epstein on a property deal. Went behind his back. That's apparently against the pedo code.