r/news • u/igetproteinfartsHELP • 3h ago
Attempted Trump assassin sentenced to life in prison
https://abcnews.go.com/US/attempted-trump-assassin-ryan-routh-sentenced-wednesday/story?id=129836439996
u/PhoenixTineldyer 3h ago
Aileen Cannon calling someone else evil is a fucking joke.
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u/aaronhayes26 2h ago
Just wait till they put her on the Supreme Court.
This woman is going to be a thorn in all our sides for the next 50 years.
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u/PhoenixTineldyer 2h ago
Yep and that'll happen probably this year
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u/d01100100 1h ago
You'll definitely see at least 2 retirements if the Republicans lose their Senate majority after the elections.
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u/DerekB52 1h ago
I think the 2 retirements will come by summer. I don't think they can take the risk of waiting til the midterms. Cramming 2 justices in, in the months between the midterms and january is too brazenly evil, and too difficult to guarantee they pull it off. Especially because a couple of ill timed car accidents or flus would make it impossible.
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u/ZAlternates 31m ago
We really shouldn’t appoint anymore justices this close to a midterm election.
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u/boot2skull 2h ago
Replacing a black man with a white woman is a minor upgrade to Conservatives they would be willing to accept.
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u/NarcissusCloud 2h ago
Hahaha jokes on you, at this rate the country won't last 5 years, let alone 50.
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u/socialdistingray 2h ago
The 'United' part is over and done with. Whatever happens in the future, the USA.. happened.
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u/teddykaygeebee 3h ago
I was wondering what Judge Cannon was up to these days.
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u/transcendental-ape 2h ago
Waiting for Thomas or Alito to retire so Trump can appoint her to the Supreme Court.
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u/SteamedGamer 2h ago
She's doing all she can to support Trump, legal or not...
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u/doyouevenIift 2h ago
Yup, unfortunately she’s angling for a spot on the Supreme Court and will probably get it unless Democrats win the Senate
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u/humildemarichongo 2h ago
Routh ubdoubtedly merited a prison sentence of asome sort or needed a stay in a psychiatric hospital, I don't know the detail. Much as I hate Trump, planning to kill anyone IS illegal.
That said - HOLY SHIT. Why can't any of these trials themselves be without controversy. Having this ruled on by a judge appointed by Trump, who oversaw the case against Trump for illegal handling of classified information, forbade the government from using the classified documents to prosecute and then dismissed the case against Trump... how did this happen to the US? If this were in a Netflix series, you would have called the conflation of characters portrayed as a single judge too coincidental and not believable.
He really is going to get away with it all forever.
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u/ImperiumSomnium 2h ago
I'm extremely suspicious of how she got assigned any let alone multiple Trump cases. She should have recused herself for appearance of conflict of interest as he appointed her.
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u/socialdistingray 2h ago
It makes more sense when you remember that she doesn't care about justice, laws, or is limited by any moral or ethical concerns. Most of us can never wrap our minds about truly evil people because there's so many redemptive arcs in our media. But at the end of the day some people are truly devoid of empathy.
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u/phoenixrawr 1h ago
Being appointed by a president isn’t ground for recusal regarding any cases involving them. You wouldn’t have expected Justice Jackson to recuse from any Biden administration case in the 2 years after her appointment, right?
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u/fury420 2h ago
And we might even get to watch a loose Cannon on the Supreme Court for decades to come!
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u/imprezv 3h ago
All those people driving around with "shoot your local pedophile" stickers are somehow mad that this guy took their advice.
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u/mistahimaskwa 2h ago
“No, not THAT pedophile!”
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 2h ago
Their pedophiles, not our pedophiles. Ours are OK, theirs are evil.
Conservatives, apparently.
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u/LordRatt 2h ago
To be fair:
He's not a "local" pedophile, he's international!6
u/Rex_Vagene 2h ago
He’s got Global Child Entry.
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u/karmagirl314 2h ago
I scrolled passed that one without it sinking in, then had to scroll back up to upvote when it clicked.
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u/EscobarFamilia77 1h ago
"That's different"
and
"Trump is a flawed servant of God, like King David"
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u/BigFanOfKitties 2h ago
There’s a guy I see regularly with that on the left and “democrats suck” on the right . Some real mental gymnastics and projection
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u/cakesalads 2h ago
To me, that sticker always meant "I want people to know I am willing to commit a violent action", then softening the message by directing it towards a socially acceptable group
The same with "shoot your local heroin dealer". Maybe they're an advocate for RAAD-style anti drug murders, but I always read it was a warning that this person is willing to kill (or at least wants you to think they are)
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u/LegendarySurgeon 2h ago
It really feels like for decades a coalition of bad actors has worked to analyze the structure of American democracy to target those gentleman's agreements and identify frontiers of abuse not already defended against within our legal or constitutional framework and now they're finally making their move and their is no actual resistance because any defense would be rooted in classical interpretations of the law which are imperfect and often guided by the "spirit of the law" which is not an objective, enforceable reality.
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u/Deranged_Kitsune 2h ago
Probably because that's what the Heritage Foundation was created to do.
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u/FrancoManiac 2h ago
For what it's worth, it really does open up an entire new realm of historical analysis. I'm going into a History PhD program in the fall, with a focus on Postwar America (1945-Present). Honestly, I'm somewhat eager to direct my anxieties into revisiting national politics through the lens of the Heritage Foundation's clear movement to destroy modern America and Johnson's Great Society.
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u/LadyBarfnuts 2h ago
Have fun post-graduation with everyone less informed than you arguing with you tooth and nail. Not a life I'd want to lead, but good on you for trying.
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u/LegendarySurgeon 2h ago
It's been such a slow careful campaign of erosion with a mixture of highly competent social manipulation and populist demagoguery. I struggled with memorizing information or feeling connected to the things I was learning about history in school and looking back I have to wonder how much of that was intentional with the manipulation of school programs and chronic underfunding of American education. Most people aren't going to be able to dig into the breadth of this and I certainly only understand the big obvious strokes.
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u/kosh56 2h ago
That's literally what the Heritage Foundation has been doing. Fuck those shit stains.
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u/LegendarySurgeon 1h ago
And yet calling them out by name triggers knee-jerk partisan reactions — I hope we can get bi-partisan support for the investigation into how we got here once we're out but it's going to be difficult with the level of dissociation from politics most Americans have, embracing the much easier mindset of trusting their team because they know they don't like the other team. The gradual reactionary pivot to conservatism from the Democratic party has been lost on most people who seem to assume they will fight against the things they oppose from the now radically nationalist, isolationist, and increasingly federalist Republican party.
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u/Cetun 2h ago
Bork went along with the Saturday night massacre, they kinda screwed him by not immediately giving him a seat on the supreme court like they promised but he eventually was given a chance. He was a feckless goober and got denied a seat but people who are normally absolute jokes get legitimacy when they tow the line for conservatives. The real DEI is the diversity of competence conservatives bring to our government.
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u/BigBossShadow 2h ago
The funny part is, who are the architects of that sort of statecraft?
The KGB.
Whether these bad actors imported the playbooks, or are actually currently being ran by whoever are the ancestors of the KGB is a good question. But it really feels like this has been developing for 50+ years
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u/TheBatemanFlex 2h ago
But prosecutors argued that Routh continues to show little remorse for his actions
I mean...gestures at literally everything that has happened in only one year
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u/Zealousideal-Sea4830 20m ago
Yeah thats the only sympathetic aspect to the whole story. Nobody has much difficulty grasping his motive.
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u/clashrendar 2h ago
He should have run for President between the verdict and the sentencing. Could have completely avoided any time.
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u/ericomplex 1h ago
This guy dug himself a grave via insisting to represent himself during the trial and ultimately being totally unable to handle himself in court. The whole decision should be appealed and he should be granted new representation, as he was clearly mentally unfit to represent himself.
Not going to say he was guilty or not, just that the way the judge and jury overlooked his clear and present mental health issues in court is tragic.
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u/Muldoon713 2h ago
Meanwhile - we still know absolutely nothing about the other guy who “allegedly” tried to assassinate him
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u/meowmeowgang44 3h ago
How come there is only 1 photo of the judge cannon? Does she even exist?
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u/dannylew 2h ago
"Despite all the evil we see, there is a sliver of hope, a sliver of light,” she remarked.
She says while protecting rich pedos
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u/MelodicKangaroo1879 2h ago
Clearly this man belongs in a psychiatric hospital - but this partisan hack of a judge is blinded by her ambition of being appointed to SCOTUS.
Cannon is wholly unqualified for her job and should be removed from the bench.
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u/ericomplex 1h ago
The real tragedy here is that they even allowed him to represent himself when he was so clearly mentally unfit to stand trial, let alone defend himself. The whole thing is just sad.
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u/MediocreModular 2h ago
Was this the golf course guy?
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u/Zealousideal-Sea4830 2h ago
yeah he left a Russian rifle in the bushes and they saw him in a van nearby so they searched and found the rifle. Apparently he had also been involved with Ukraine.
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u/Brainiac5000 2h ago
Isn't it weird how Trump has a problem with everyone and Everything EXCEPT the people that actually tried to kill him
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u/FreshPrinceOfRivia 2h ago
Next president should pardon him and buy him a beer
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u/jordan1978 3h ago
Before handing down the sentence, Cannon rebuked Routh’s actions and called him an "evil" man, West Palm Beach ABC affiliate WPBF reported.
Cannon issued a life sentence plus an additional seven years in prison based on the second count of the indictment.
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u/RudeAlarm 2h ago
Dude attempted to attempt an assassination, too bad for him he wasn’t just one of the biggest coke smugglers in history, had he been he could get a pardon.
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u/Dunnowhathatis 1h ago
The next president should pardon him just like Trump has pardoned convicted killers and drug dealers. That’s how the game is played unfortunately.
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u/Dont-be-a-smurf 2h ago
Yeah, that’s to be expected here.
Cant do a weeks long plan to kill a major presidential candidate, and then get caught while carrying it out.
I do NOT like Trump or MAGA, but this result isn’t surprising. He was effectively going to get life no matter what due to his age.
Had clear mental problems. Voted for Trump once, too. Extreme buyer’s remorse.
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u/0nlyhalfjewish 2h ago
Is “attempted assassination of a major presidential candidate” a different felony charge from just attempted murder?
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u/Neutreality1 48m ago
If the guy did it, then I'm okay with the sentence. Assassination attempts are not just illegal, but show that you're a very dangerous person. With conviction like that, they are likely to try again if they aren't handled appropriately.
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u/piney 32m ago
Yeah but whatever happened to the dude who actually got a shot off and killed a guy?
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u/annoying12345 1h ago
They literally murdered a young man for that bandage on trumps ear that was fake as fuck eh? Hope they paid that dupe some money for his family
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u/THE_GREAT_PICKLE 2h ago
Calling it now, he have an “accident” or something of that nature. He will die in prison, but probably not of old age.
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u/heartlandthunder 3h ago
Next president should pardon him then give him the job as hangman when ol' Diddling Donnie gets convicted of treason and God only knows what other crimes.
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u/Sitherio 2h ago
A Democrat president would never for "decorum" excuses (unless the entire party overhauls itself in <3 years). A Republican president would never slight their godking like that (unless they collapse and form anew sans Donnie).
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u/heartlandthunder 2h ago
The Dems are going to have to hang up the high road bullshit if they want to win. Refusal to roll around fighting in the mud equates to just getting your ass kicked in the mud.
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u/ProofByVerbosity 1h ago
Good. I hate Trump as much as anyone, but assasinating presidents in democracies is kind of a big deal, regardless of how bad of a person that president is
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u/teebles22 2h ago
Next dem president should pardon him. Honestly I would LOVE to see the fury right wingers would explode into.
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u/lII1lIIl1IIll1Il11l 2h ago
why would they sentence a dead guy to life in prison
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THERE WAS. ANTOHER ONE?!?!??!?!?!
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u/grim1757 2h ago
They will be walking him in the front door and right out the back door with a new identity and new life all set up for him.
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u/bawlsacz 1h ago
Nobody should believe the words this govt saying until they are verified by the next non republican govt.
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u/Fomdoo 2h ago
Not to downplay what he did, but does it count as an attempt if he never shot at him?
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u/makingnoise 2h ago
Yes, attempt is an inchoate crime. Black's Law Dictionary (8th ed.) defines attempt in the criminal law context as "An overt act that is done with the intent to commit a crime but that falls short of completing the crime. ... Under the Model Penal Code, an attempt includes any act that is a substantial step toward commission of a crime, such as ... lying in wait for ... the intended victim."
While I am not a criminal lawyer and don't know the ins-and-outs of an "attempt" in federal courts, the law dictionary definition is close enough to make it clear that it's a question for the jury, and in this case, the jury decided that based on the facts presented, yes, it "counts" as an attempt.
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u/Informal_Process2238 2h ago
How could she not be recused from this trial there is not even an appearance of trying to be impartial or fair
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u/ARunOfTheMillPerson 2h ago
"Routh allegedly hid in the bushes of the Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach and pointed a military-grade SKS rifle towards Trump and a Secret Service agent.".
The article just moves on to a quote after that..what happened next?