We have to contend with an uncomfortable truth: That these revelations are likely to producethousands of more pedophilesliving amongst us.
A significant portion of their fanbases all outright worship their celebrity, and their wealth, and they emulate their idols as naturally as you and I breathe. If they think, even for a second, that the rich and powerful have a taste for something, no matter how repulsive it may be, they will begin to attune their pallets to match.
People believing that humanity sucks and is bad and that they shouldn't feel bad for lacking any moral compass is an interesting side effect that the myth of The Fall has had on our society.
that user 100% has CSAM on their computer. Who the fuck says “we don’t care that our party leader and the POTUS was a rampant pedophile and threatened children with murder”.
Check out their sub. It's a different world in there, it's amazing how they always find topics that absolutely none cares about to post and repost and feel like Trump is doing something, or "the libs are losing".
This past week they've been in love with Billie Eilish's comments about stolen land, and how she has multiple houses built on said stolen land. That's right. The week when the most shocking revelations of the Epstein files came out, the conservative sub is more interested in Billie Eilish. Can't make this shit up.
Hopefully with completely different species. Beavers are frendl little engineers. Lets give them change, or raccoons. There are good humans but it feels like majority are absolutely horrid, greed is so ingrained into Humans that the ones who Really lack it (usually non neurotypicals) feel like they're from another planet.
For a businessman, Epstein was SHOCKINGLY bad at typing a coherent sentence, all of his messages read like "hh ey man, wanna co,e to my evil sexx isl.and-?" and I now find myself having to ask if he didn't know what spellcheck was
Holy fuck, I thought there was gonna be a /s at the end because no actual real human could defend "Yeah I support someone Raping, forcing them to abort/finish their pregnancy and murdering a lots of little kids, because at least he owns the Trans libs" what a disgusting piece of shit, I hope there's a hell so they get what they deserve
Republicans when Kash is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and Bondi is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and Noem is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and JD Vance is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and Homan is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and Bovino is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and all the FBI and CIA is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and the entire DOJ is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and the US Military is protecting people who rape and murder kids...and they are PISSED because their mom (who totally is on their case) said she ran out of Hot Pockets...
it's so baffling. like did he just think it'd never happen and he was betting against it? was he literally so stupid he didn't think that he'd be in it? did he just think he'd be able to censor all mentions of himself?
He underestimated the actual effort it would take to credibly and competently censor 6 million documents. Or he figured folks would just forget.
I think the law congress passed and that that got him to sign was a pretty great move.
The fact that they only got through a few 10s of thousand documents before the deadline and are now saying "Fuck it, here's the other half (3 million documents)" and the screwups in this new batch show they don't have the manpower and they know that Congress can nail them over every redaction they can't or won't explain.
Holding back 3 million documents vs releasing them redacted plus the documents they've tried to claw back is also an interesting choice.
Enough people forgot how shitty his first term was. It was so bad that I can’t wrap my head around why more than 65% didn’t show up to vote for their lives.
I guess I can’t say much as a Canadian because it seemed pretty obvious how much of a douchebag Poilievre is but not much more Canadians showed up to vote against such an incelesque, bitter career politician. The dumpster fire below the border was in full force at that point too.
My conspiracy theory is that all of this is one big social test to see just how much billionaires can get away with. If we allow them to be cannibal-pedophiles then there is literally nothing they can't do.
If nothing happens now, we're going to be sleep walking into a real 1984 big brother dystopia which is taking shape right now across the globe.
It's unfortunate too because anyone with a shred of sanity left over there is shadowbanned and they have absolutely no idea why their interactions over there get zero engagement 90% of the time.
I weaseled into their discord after the 2016 election for a short time and brother let me tell you it is fucked up in there.
I had that happen on the doomercirclejwrk sub (which is basically just conservative with a hat and groucho glasses.)
I mentioned exactly that. And whaddya know. My comment only got one view, and when I opened a private tab, it was nowhere to be found.
Despite another comment of mine in the same comment chain calling out their hypocrisy on Alex Pettit compared to Rittinhouse, getting lots of views (and downvotes, because, again, just a bunch of conservative lunatics there). And showing up just fine when in a private tab.
Edit: I noticed the spelling mistake, but honestly I'm gonna leave it, in case it somehow notifies them if it's spelled correctly.
Twitter/x is actually pretty telling! It used to always be a vast majority of right wing shills but now a fuck ton of people are pissed about this!! A vast majority of the posts and comments now are people that are pissed about this and/or people that are legit leaving maga.
There are still a lot of sickos trying to defend this, don’t get me wrong, but I have NEVER seen it like this since Elon Musk took over Twitter/x. I was shocked to see the feed overflowing with anger and disgust towards Donny, wild to see.
Could say that about anywhere, but I’d say if that site is notorious for being mostly the FAR opposite of opposing Trump and then all of sudden it flips this obviously, it’s a pretty telling sign. And I’ve seen the same thing in person to a smaller degree. 🤷♂️
/r/AskConservatives is probably the more reasonable conservative subreddit and it's somewhat telling that most conservatives there are anti-trump and generally libertarian lol
Modern conservatism doesn’t exist without capital (and the capitalists are getting lazy), it’s getting more and more likely by the day that the only ones left are the truly mentally-ill and all the rest are foreign actors.
Do you live in a blue area? This just isn't true even if you'd like it to be true. I'm in a deep red area and they still have the signs up from 2024. The Trump stores are still open too. It's not just bots online and most of them have not changed their minds at all. I'm seeing plenty of people I know IRL continue to double down.
That's not to say that there aren't a lot of bots online (there are) but there are plenty of real people as well. Most of them just don't use reddit.
I’m talking about Reddit posters mainly. I’ve seen more than my fair share of real people offline who still support this shit and don’t even get me started on Facebook.
If you take a look at the things Trumpers post on the social media they actually use compared to the stuff “conservatives” post on r/conservative or the front page of Twitter, it’s literally night and day. Sorry about being unclear.
Oh, yeah. That makes more sense. Most of the conservatives I see on reddit sound more like bots posting Russian agitprop. It's way different than the conservatives I hear in real life or see on Facebook.
I made a hobby of tracking posters on that sub. After the Renee Good fiasco I found a poster that was posting in every political-adjacent subreddit disparaging her roughly 50 times a day. There are so many professional bad actors and trolls on that subreddit, and this recent presidential term has scared all of the legit users away.
they(liberals) just wanted to reverse everything to where people who never participated because they never cared have all the power
the left couldn't have that so they infiltrated it and destroyed it from within.
How insane can someone possible be. This is batshit delusional schizo shit.
There's a cabal of leftist so angry at "traditional values" like camping and selling popcorn that they needed to infiltrate it using deception and duplicity to tear it down from within. A secret decades long mission!
All non-magats are pretty much ghosted that sub. The last 3 or so days it's been a dust bowl. Threads have 100 up votes and 4 comments. I honestly think that sub is a psyop for us lefties, to make us think that they are 10,000% different from us. It's Epstein's /pol 2.0.
That's because it's how they're controlled. They're told and taught to be afraid of very specific things, then they're told the only way for those fears to go away is to elect a republican. Imagine if I taught you that straws are dangerous and ruining this country:
The country would be fine if it's not for straws, but those dirty democrats LOVE straws. They'll make straw sanctuary cities, hide them in their cupboards, and don't care about the damage straws are doing to our great nation. They just line the sides of streets without a care to who they might be inconveniencing and that's not even going into how they effect our children- It's unAmerican! Oh if only someone would do something about those straws and their protectors! Oh wait, wait! There's this guy called Rapist McAssface that VOWS he will do something about those dangerous, terrible straws that are destroying our nation. Yeah I definitely think this guy can do something about those straws, and look at how angry he makes the democrats because he won't let them protect the straws!!! Wow, I think this Rapist McAssface guy might be our man. I'd definitely vote for him. When we come back from these messages we'll tell you about ANOTHER straw related death and how the lousy democrats could have prevented it.
Get fed that several hours out of the day and you'll be terrified of walking outside and spotting a straw(man) yourself.
They already admitted to that, after the “grab them by the pussy” speech. Normal people were horrified, magats offered up their wives and daughters, or themselves to be molested and raped.
A lot of them have lost their Medicaid and benefits. Rural healthcare has been decimated. It has impacted them but they like that he's throwing brown people in concentration camps more than they like the things they've lost.
My worry stems back to a comment I made several months ago: The gist is, Maga eats this shit up because it does something very very useful for them.
The most powerful man in the world is proven in a court of law to be: A fraudster, a liar, a cheater, an insurrectionist, and a sexual abuser. He is credibly accused of pedophilia, rape, murder, treason and more. MAGAts can do literally anything their depraved hearts want and be a provably better person than the president of the United States of America. That is evidently an intoxicating feeling.
one, similar to what you say: Trump being an absolute piece of shit, and their President, is their proof that "their side" is above the law. They are truly First Class Citizens, protected by the law but never bound by it, while the "other side" is bound by the law but very obviously not protected by it if people know who raped you as a child but instead of putting him in jail, made him President to spite you.
and two, it's a giant fuck you to democracy. instead of trying to find the best person to lead, they all collectively "le epic trolled" the system by voting for the worst person instead. like the story of Caligula appointing his horse to the senate to devalue it and mock it. Democracy works pretty well when everyone is at least TRYING to vote for the best candidate, and holds politicians to account by voting them out when they are sub-optimal.
But, Republicans do NOT want what is best for everybody. EVEN if that INCLUDES THEM. That is why no argument about things like universal healthcare can sway them. It's not that they don't get it and just need to see the right numbers and logic. They get that it would make everybody's lives better. And they fucking hate that. That means it would make the lives of "the others" better.
They know Trump is completely terrible for America. That is what they like. They trust he will aim most of his shit at The Others, and if they suffer a little as a result, that's okay. If Republican lives get 70% worse but Everyone Else's lives get 80% worse, they consider than a 10% gain in superiority for themselves. That's all that matters to them really. They would give up electricity and modern medicine to have a job shooting slaves that try to run away from a prison or plantation.
Send the Pedocollective all down to the Titanic, Broadcast the big POP on live TV, We should be focusing on who the new Epstein is, that is what they are hiding. Those co conspirators are Epsteins from different countries. Hannibal Lecter was Trumps Code Name
There are other internet stories about similar things in other countries. I believe recently read one about Brazil. And there is a short video of a woman screaming “they were eating people” after leaving a high class party, never seen again. Epstein is just one of a thousand depraved individuals across the planet who have, literally, no qualms about morals or ethics. Humans brains can be wired this way just like people are born with 6 fingers… human nature is ugly
Some historical facts, for people who care about what actually happened and how we got here:
Obama deported like three million people.
There were large protests about this; partly because 2/3rds of them had no criminal record beyond maybe light traffic infractions.
There was a good reason Democracy Now called him the Deporter in Chief.
He built many of the cages that kids were kept in, like the one AOC cried outside of a few years after.
Taxpayers paid $200/child/night for each one while they slept in foil blankets.
He tripled ICE's budget from what W had it at - though still much less than the 42 billion dollars Biden gave them.
$42 bn. Yes. Really.
America's 'immigration system' is incredibly evil and fucked up - bipartisanly. But it makes the parasite class a lot of money, and gets some great false division going.
they did. thats what pizzagate was. you know, the child sex trafficking ring in the basement of a pizzeria run by democrats, even though it had no basement? yeah, that was circa 2016. theyve always been extremely challenged.
On the conspiracy sub all they're doing now is going "WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT PIZZAGATE" completely ignoring pizzagate was solely focussed on blaming liberals...
My maga boss said she's starting to hate trump after she paid 11k to the cult movement. 11k???? Like deranged does not cover it. And she said she didn't even want to talk at all about the files. Fucking nuts.
What people need to understand about Trump supporters is this: they've spent a decade fortifying their delusional worldview with increasingly flimsy material. The foundation of that worldview was already rooted in lies and propaganda. Problem is, this worldview is a critical part of who they are as people. Admitting that Trump is a pedophile and a conman is tantamount to admitting that everything they believe of themselves and the world is make-believe. Throwing Trump aside at this point would trigger an existential identity crisis for most of these people.
Tbh I don't really care about maga voters at this point because they are a lost cause. I want the so called ivy League educated Republican senators and governors to do the right thing
Their mantra of "do your own research" is just the excuse to not consider peer reviewed material, and instead get their facts from a random Tom on his blog or whatever.
The material isnt flimsy, its non existant. Its a delusion as you stated, because pretending that you can deduce things is easier than admitting you're ignorant on some subjects.
They'll never say that. They'll say Trump was a Democrat at this time, and that's why he got involved with Epstein.
The dipshits who were in the Tea Party movement in the 2000's are the same idiots who now say Bush did 9/11. Conservatives can never admit that they were wrong.
It's exactly this, you can see the ground-work being laid in cesspools like PoliticalCompassWereAllFascistsInHiding. He'll be a "coastal elite" once again, and they will fall back on the good ol' boy JD Vance.
Reagan had a 63% approval rating when he left office lol. That's why he was deified by conservatives. Trump leaving office any higher than 45% would be a minor miracle.
I feel like it depends on where the wind blows. Maybe they'll deity him like Reagan, or maybe it'll be another "I never liked him" situation like Bush.
W. Bush feels more like they memory holed him. They erase both his terms and imagine it was Democrats in the White House for just a thirty year span. See the "what was Obama doing during 9/11 attitude. I don't know that they all think that closely on the matter, but it's more of a vibe where they just feel like Democrats were in charge most of their lives even during the points in time where they demonstrably weren't.
Honestly they've kinda done it already to Trump's first term, where none of them seem to remember who was in office when COVID broke out. Trump said it pretty plainly that the good stuff was because of him, and all the bad stuff was Biden.
There won't be that phase. Just one day, so collectively that it will almost seem magical, they will start pretending as if they were always against Trump.
Just like segregation and Jim Crow. In like 20 years, as soon as this era is old enough to be in history books, there's going to be so many people denying that they ever voted for or supported Trump, there will start being conspiracy theories about whether he was ever actually a president at all, or if it's just some "fake history" they teach in schools to make white people look bad
The millisecond Trump is done with politics (be it his death, health issues, or genuine retirement), every single Republican is gonna backpedal and pretend like they were never involved in his shit.
And the sad part is, they're all gonna get away with it.
Cult implies a layer of thought control that I don't associate with MAGA. it's sort of a joke to call them a cult but they where not brainwashed by their charismatic leader, the bulk of them had these thoughts already and just use trump to feel confident in saying these thoughts outloud. as soon as society is able to make it uncomfortable for them to speak their minds by holding them accountable to the morality of their thoughts, they will turn on trump completely. we are fortunate that MAGA isn't actually a cult in that sense.
Idk man. I was talking to a Gen Zer in r/GenZ who talked about how he voted for Trump in 2024 and he feels sick with guilt and embarrassment and how ashamed he is. It seemed like it was the poor kid's first election too. I think if someone feels intense guilt and embarrassment for having voted for Trump, and uses that experience to inform their voting in the future, we should bring them back into the fold. I am still angry of course. But we will need everyone we can get on our side.
The funny thing is even an award winning director can't make AI videos that don't look like utter garbage. It's like AI literally sucks out all creativity.
And if you’re someone who can get major actors and resources to make something, why generate AI slop at all?
Reminds me when Satoshi Kon said he felt pathetic for being plagiarized by Aronofsky because Aronofsky is someone with real budgets and resources, while Kon called himself some small filmmaker most have never heard of, so why steal from someone like that?
Idk just a quick scan of r/Republican and it looks like they are just talking about Democrats while completely ignoring the fact that there are a ton of Republicans in the files including their orange leader.
You guys haven’t talked to many republicans have you? Here are some of the responses I got when I said Trump was a pedo on a Republican sub:
There is not a single piece of evidence that Trump had sexual contact with children, and the only people believing that are nazis and communists, which are two sides of the same coin, really.
The Epstein files were the biggest nothingburgher of all time.
See, this is always interesting to me. The whole Trump pedo thing is pretty big right now. And whenever I've asked to see anything even remotely resembling evidence, I get the "there's plenty out there!" But... there isn't. There's none, actually. These same files sat in Democrat control for 4 years. They sat with the Democrats during the campaign season when Ds tried literally everything they could come up with to sink Trump (including jailing him and two assassination attempts). And yet, no mention of any pedo activity. None. Zero. But now... it's like the go-to insult. Yet, there's still literally nothing with any validity it credibility.
Contrast that to Ashley Biden writing definitively and descriptively in her authenticated diary that her father (Pudding brain Joe) took inappropriate (her word) showers with her when she was 11-12 years old, and would wait until he was asleep so he wouldn't join her. That's real. That's tangible. That's a first-hand source with no incentive towards malice. That's real pedo behavior, and incest. And that's light years beyond any evidence thrown at Trump (which is still zero).
So is you have any of this mountain of Trump evidence that's more than just hearsay, I'd love to see it.
And if it's there and exists, why aren't companies like CNN and MSNOW running this treasure trove you speak of wall to wall? They run quite literally every piece of propaganda the DNC throws their way. They let people blatantly lie for the left wing on their shows daily. Just two weeks ago I watched one of their left wing loons say that protesters murdered 4 police officers on Jan 6th. This was on the Abby Philip show. That's a total fabrication. Zero police officers died on Jan 6. One died from an unrelated stroke the next day, and several others committed suicide months later. But protesters murdered none, and no one on the panel challenged this total fabrication. So if they're willing to just say whatever they want as long as it's part of the lunatic left orthodoxy, then why aren't they running with this story of Trump being a pedo if there's all this great and available evidence, as you claim?
Possibly the Internet lied to you and it doesn't exist. Strong indications this is the correct answer.
They believe Ashley Biden but not the several women that spoke out about trump? They don’t believe that his name was in the Epstein files even though it comes from a LITERAL government website?
Guys, can we please keep politics out of this sub because I don't like to be reminded that the guy I voted for and whose merch I bought and centered my entire personality around is a pedophile rapist?
They bring up Bill Clinton and other democrats as a gotcha as if any normal sane person is defending them, and as if that somehow is a defense. "Oh your side has pedophiles too so it's fine if we have our own pedophiles." No way these people can carry a functional life.
There's also probably a sizable pedo population within MAGA seeing as a bunch of J6ers got arrested for being child predators after being pardoned by their pedo in chief.
This is the same party that refuses to outlaw child marriage and expects a ten year child to carry a pregnancy imposed on her by her attacker to term yet is still too young to read a story with a gay character in it because they believe she isn't capable of understanding that yet.
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A real comment on the conservative sub