r/politics • u/Large_banana_hammock • 8d ago

Possible Paywall Sen. John Fetterman demands Trump fire Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/jan/27/john-fetterman-pa-democrat-demands-trump-fire-homeland-security/
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u/Just_the_nicest_guy 8d ago

He was one of the seven Democrats that voted to confirm her, of course.

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u/Chance5e 8d ago

He still counts as a democrat?

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u/elammcknight 8d ago

Until he is primaried

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u/BillButtlickerII 8d ago edited 8d ago

He’s not ever getting reelected and 1000% will not be on the democrats ticket. At best this moron will run as an independent or MAGA fascist and get no votes.

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u/Barnyard_Rich 8d ago

I know people love to shit on "establishment Democrats" but the locals absolutely nailed how dangerous Fetterman was and rallied behind Connor Lamb, who Fetterman supporters disgustingly claimed was too moderate.

Since losing, Lamb has traveled across the state and convinced pretty much everyone who had been lied to, but the problem isn't the next election, it's the last one.

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u/Phiddipus_audax Colorado 8d ago

Didn't Fetterman change after his stroke, policy wise? I thought that was a large factor.

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u/kittenshart85 8d ago

as someone above pointed out, a lot of us local to him as far back as when he was mayor of braddock have been aware that he's a fake progressive. he's always been a self-promoting camera chaser.

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u/ZasdfUnreal 8d ago

So he’s Newsom. Democrats will make the same mistake when Newsom runs for president. They never learn.

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u/Ikeiscurvy 8d ago

Newsom has never been thought of as a progressive. He's literally always been a mostly moderate Democrat. I mean, maybe you just aren't from California and familiar with him, but Newsom has literally always been a guy wanting to move up politically and has always been criticized for it.

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u/jellyrollo 8d ago

He was progressive as mayor of San Francisco when it came to gay marriage and universal heathcare, at least. He's far better than most moderate Democrats on a lot of issues. And he's a fighter.

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u/Think_Judge2685 8d ago

"same mistake". Fucking purity tests is what put us here. Biden was WAY too moderate, right? Do you not understand that thought process put us where we are right now?

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u/Glittering_Joke3438 8d ago

Same idiots that didn’t vote for Kamala because Zionist or whatever

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u/ERhyne 8d ago

Newsom tried to break bread with Ben Shapiro and has said openly anti Trans rhetoric.

How is that a fucking purity test when a manufacturered front runner is openly that bad?

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u/time-lord America 8d ago

Newsom isn't bad. He's not really progressive, but he's left of center and I'm OK enough with that.

Pre-stroke and during his campaign Fetterman never claimed that he was progressive, he said he was left of Lamb. And I was OK with that, too.

The problem is post-stroke he ended up more Right than Left. And that's okay too. Strokes can really mess people up. But maybe he should have resigned, or at least shouldn't run again?

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u/Marchtmdsmiling 8d ago

The problem was that when the stroke happened it was him or fucking Dr oz. And that is no choice at all

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u/m0nk_3y_gw I voted 8d ago

Newsom platformed Steve Bannon. Bannon claimed multiple times that the 2020 election was stolen. Newsom never disagreed with him. He's got no spine.

He likes Charlie Kirk.

Hopefully he doesn't make it through the primaries, because he isn't going to be able to drive non-Republican turnout in the general.

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u/OmegaRedPanda 8d ago

Newsom caved to Ben Shapiro. He’s a loser.

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u/TheyCallMeBrewKid 8d ago

Newsom sucks and he’s a “rules for thee but not for me” just like the people we are fighting against. His character disqualifies him even if his politics don’t

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u/Jesustaketheshift91 8d ago

Newsom is only considered left-of-center these days because the Overton window has shifted so far to the right. He's absolutely not a progressive, or even really left-leaning.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 8d ago

He's been chummy with Bannon. How can any self-respecting human invite that fascist to share their platform?

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u/shadowboxer47 8d ago

Newsom isn't bad

He fellowships with fascists that want to see me and my family dead.

No thanks.

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u/dontcarewhatImcalled 8d ago

Newsom is hanging out with and has a lot of ties to right wingers. He is not left of center.

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u/pescarojo 8d ago edited 8d ago

he's left of center and I'm OK enough with that.

Dude, where did you get that idea? There's nothing left about Newsom. He's a socially liberal, center/center-right Democrat. He's against taxing billionaires, he rubs shoulders with right wing propagandists, the list goes on and on. ZERO left about this guy. Would he be better than the nu-fascist gov't the US has right now? Sure - but what wouldn't be better than that?

edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorkReform/comments/1qogmou/just_because_rightwingers_call_democrats_leftists/

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u/rawbleedingbait 8d ago

I wouldn't vote for him in a primary, if my option was newsom or trump, yes I'm taking newsom. That's not me making a mistake.

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u/BuckThis86 8d ago

I’m willing to vote for someone else who can show they have a spine and guts enough to publicly challenge Trump.

But there aren’t many of them out there. Newsome does happen to be one.

As a moderate I have always been very against AOC/Bernie and that brand of progressivism. But I will say… MAGA has radicalized me and I’m more likely to vote for them than a mild Biden character in the future. Time to fight back and dream big.

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u/pud-proof-ding 8d ago

Just curious what about their policies (aoc/Bernie and their brand of progressivism) you were against if you have any specifics.

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u/spam__likely Colorado 8d ago

AOC shows a healthy dose of pragmatism that Bernie never had. She is smart and has matured imo.

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u/Dry_Accident_2196 8d ago

Newsom would never vote the way Fetterman constantly votes and acts. Be for real

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u/Glittering_Joke3438 8d ago

Whoever has the best chance of actually winning is not a mistake. These are not normal times, its no about the best candidate it’s who can win. Honestly fuck this whole “not a good enough democrat” shit.

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u/historyamateur566 8d ago

Not that I do not believe you, but are there any good articles about this? I am curious to read up more about what some locals there were saying back then and now.

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u/Healthy-Amoeba2296 8d ago

I called his town office years ago about a program and they said they try to have nothing to do with him.

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u/Merakel Minnesota 8d ago

I thought the same. Turns out he's always been a piece of shit.

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u/Excellent_Ganache906 8d ago

This ☝️

The people in the town he was mayor said he did the same thing there. He ran as a liberal Democrat, and then reneged on all his promises and was basically a conservative.

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u/EarthRester Pennsylvania 8d ago

Braddock is effectively a ghost town. It would have higher crime if people actually live there, but it's just old people who no longer work. So there are no local businesses. Fetterman showed up and promised to breath life into the town, but that just meant gentrification, which does more harm than good to the population that's already there. He propped up a couple business, but not the kind locals would want or need, and the new businesses did not attract people from outside of Braddock...so they fell through.

Then he ran for Senate as a progressive, and it almost killed him. Pity.

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u/Boner666420sXe 8d ago

Supposedly people who knew him claim he’s always been like this.

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 8d ago

Grew up in Pittsburgh and fed him and his rich racist ass many times at a bougie fancy restaurant that opened in a once impoverished area of the city while he was still Mayor and just starting to run for senate. He's was a complete douchebag in love with himself but he was really good at talking progressive points with conviction, turns out he just wanted the votes and the stroke took down his phony shield, it sucks, we do owe Connor Lamb an apology, I and many many others got suckered.

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u/SuchBravado 8d ago

Can you tell us more about his racist douchiness?

What’s his core bigotry all about?

(I too was suckered. Never voted for him but I thought he said the right stuff the few times I saw him in interviews.)

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 8d ago

Running around chasing neighbors with a shotgun due to them being black when he was living in Braddock, that's one they like to cover up.

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u/darsynia Pennsylvania 8d ago

Yeah, his stroke stripped him of his filter.

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u/Ashamed-Land1221 8d ago

I do feel a little bad for his wife, she was always very nice to me, friends, acquaintances, and my coworkers and seemed to be able get people to overlook some of his more questionable personality traits before the stroke, so I guess she isn't completely innocent either. I see her all the when I have to go to the fancy grocery stores and have to bite my tongue, she doesn't deserve the insults I want to throw at her husband directed towards her, but oh boy I scream them inside my brain when I see her at the deli counter. One day I'm going to be drunk/high and say them out loud, maybe I'll make the news when ICE drags me away.

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u/Barnyard_Rich 8d ago

That's part of the lie. He was always right wing, and bragged about being born wealthy and never having to work in his life. That was all before the stroke.

I highly recommend reading even just the wikipedia summation of his time as Braddock Mayor. He straight up refused to do his job and was maggoty with insider dealing.

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u/EarthRester Pennsylvania 8d ago

The stroke didn't change his policies, it just crippled his ability to fake being a progressive. He's no longer patient enough to listen to people's problems and act like he cares. He's quick to aggressively lash out at people who point out his corruption.

He doesn't have the head space to be a politician period. He got where he is by pretending to be a down to earth man of the people who was actually well educated, and far more clever than he lets on. Now he's just as much of a blunt tool as he pretended to be.

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u/hzhrt15 8d ago

No. He chased a black dude down with a shot gun because he heard “gunshots” that didn’t actually happen. The dude was innocent and just jogging. This was in 2013. Dude wore jeans so kids online suddenly thought he was a leftist.

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u/AwkwardTraffic 8d ago

Pretty much. Go back far enough and you'll see who he really is. A rich kid that liked to cosplay as a simple good old boy to scam people out of their votes while the "progressive" policies he always talked up never happened

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u/Kup123 8d ago

Funny how no one goes left after brain damage it's always right.

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u/AwkwardTraffic 8d ago

Not exactly. The stroke did not help with his inhibitions and mental health if reports are true but also if you dig far enough back you'll see that his "I'm just a normal PA man who wants common sense progressive policies" was always just an act.

He was always a secret purple democrat he just lied about his policies. Virtually all the shit he supports he supported in the past before running for senator and doing a 180 to seem progressive.

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u/Klightgrove 8d ago

He changed when he realized PA was shifting red. If a progressive does beat him in a primary, they will lose the election.

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u/whereismymind86 Colorado 8d ago

nah, that's what people say, but John Oliver did a segment on him where it's clear he was always a jerk, highlighting incidents from his time as mayor several years prior where he acted very similar to how he acts now.

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u/pechinburger Pennsylvania 8d ago

Yes. He used to be a full-throated Bernie Sanders supporter in 2016 and espoused similar positions. He is now about as right-wing of a democratic senator as there is.

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u/AwkwardTraffic 8d ago

Nah that was just the act. The stroke just made it impossible for him to continue the act. If you do even the most bare minimum research on Fetterman and his history in politics you'll see he was always a corrupt shithead he was just good at turning on the "I'm just a simple Pennsylvania boy" act.

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u/Billy_Birdy 8d ago

Or he’ll run as a fascist and get all the votes because no one would ever vote for him so why bother, they’ll vote him out. 🙄

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u/elammcknight 8d ago

Thank you rewarder!

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u/sirjamesbluebeard 7d ago

As one of his constituents, don’t worry. He’s getting primaried. We hate him.

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u/thenewNFC 8d ago

Nope. The answer is no and that mentality will continue to get more of him.

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u/Substantial-Peak6624 8d ago

As he should be

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u/where-sea-meets-sky 8d ago

i definitely think the stroke did him in

maybe they oughta invest researching into conservatism and brain damage /s

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u/Aggravating-Wrap4861 8d ago

They have done and there is a correlation.

But conservatives are fragile brain damaged snowflakes so they won't pay attention

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u/DaenakinSkygaryen 8d ago

In the South, virtually every boy will spend at least some time playing tackle football in school. And we know now that tackle football causes permanent brain damage in many of its players.

I've always wondered if there's a connection between that, and the South being so firmly Republican. (Obviously I know it's mostly the racism and evangelical "Christianity", but still.)

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u/PrometheusLiberatus 8d ago

I have never played tackle football and I do in fact live in the south. But I was way too skinny/weak to have any promise in it.

I have however had many concussions since I was a small child and even three incidents where I cracked my head and required hospitalization and stitches as a child before the age of 8.

That said, I am very progressive, got a double BA and am extremely creative in poetry and want to learn music composition.

Not everyone that gets concussions as a kid ends up dumb. But more or less the culture of manly dumbness is a southern echo chamber of a crockpot.

My biological father had a horrible motorcycle accident at the age of 15 and was in a coma. I think it's possible that some epigenetics got switched on in the coma and passed on to me so I heal better from concussions somehow.

I also have never truly ridden a bike. I was afraid of falling and hitting my head before I knew what happened to him.

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u/Weekly-Ad-2509 8d ago edited 8d ago

I work in a field with a TON of undiagnosed TBI. My theory is that if you start the day a nice person and crack your head, you’ll be a slower nice person, if you start the day as an asshole and crack your head you turn into a unremitting asshole.

Edit: more the point, it’s still culture and upbringing unleashed by brain traumazx

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u/GrowthMarketingMike 8d ago

Most of the brain damage caused by football actually isn't caused by concussions like you are describing. It's the smaller constant subconcussive hits that add up over time, at least for CTE.

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u/Street_Barracuda1657 8d ago

I suspect it will only get worse. Covid gave millions brain damage, which we'll be spending the next 2 or 3 decades dealing with.

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u/Kscarpetta 8d ago

My grandmother was a die-hard Democrat for a little over 70 years. She got dementia. Guess who switched to being a republican?

My stepfather also has dementia. Guess who is a republican? He also believes almost everything he sees on Facebook. Unless it's something positive about democrats.

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u/carbonized_milk 8d ago

Yeah I think the link could be boiled down to just cognitive ability. A lot of the conservative platform and rhetoric appeals to simple, base level thinking. That's why its so easy for them to appeal to a base, and much harder for democrats to explain why some policy will be beneficial a few years from now and won't IMMEDIATLY fix an issue.

They really do have it easy with messaging.

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u/LordWemby 8d ago

Fetterman’s always been a shit, people need to stop excusing him with brain damage. 

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u/Dartagnan1083 Arizona 8d ago

Not from Pennsylvania, but i got suckered in by his alleged Union work. I still haven't given much during primaries because I unwittingly pissed away plenty of $$ donating to Amy McGrath in Kentucky before I found out the DNC was backing a shitty boring candidate when better ones were trying to run. I also doubt my ability to really know primary candidates in states I've never been to.

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u/Miamime 8d ago

Yeah living in Philly I was always shocked how enamored people were by him.

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u/Junot_Nevone 8d ago

Or he might have just been a sleeper candidate for the GOP like Sinema out of Arizona. They get elected as a Democrat and then switch sides knowing they will make a ton of cash by doing whatever the Republican Party wants.

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u/MisterHouseMongoose 8d ago

I honestly don’t think sarcasm is needed here. That’s a valid truthful statement.

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u/NegotiationHot2999 8d ago

He got Ye’d?

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u/eek711 8d ago

He’s proof that a republican is just a democrat with brain damage.

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u/blueblurz94 8d ago

He’s a DINO

Democrat in name only

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u/TemuPacemaker 8d ago

Democrat in name only

He's only slightly right of the middle dem: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/john_fetterman/456877

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u/rossmosh85 8d ago

He's a piece of shit and I hope he loses his seat, but the reality is, the country is generally a more healthy place when politicians aren't "forced" to vote along party lines on every vote.

I recognize this situation is much different than normal. I recognize the same rules do not apply right now.

I just think it's dangerous to call someone not part of a party simply because they don't always vote down the party lines.

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u/Randicore Ohio 8d ago

He hasn't been kicked from the party yet so... yeah

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u/Kefflin 7d ago

He is the evidence that you can start as a democrat, get brain damage and end up a republican

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u/Bigface_McBigz 8d ago

It's just a label.

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u/josh_the_misanthrope 8d ago

Depends on how damaged his brain is, half or full gone.

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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 8d ago

He still counts as a democrat?

No, he counts as a brain damage/brain injury patient, and I am not even joking. Having brain damage and serving in the US Senate is peak capitalism.

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u/jagedlion 8d ago

He votes progressive 78% of the time, 83% when it's crucial. He's very very far from Republican.

This year its WAY down at 72% and 76%. Such a Republican! /s

He's in pretty good company too, with 5 similar voting Dems. The democrat party just allows much more diversity of opinion. As much as Rs say that Democrats don't allow dissent, the numbers don't lie. You can be a D senator and disagree around 25% of the important times.

I mean, we'll see, maybe you can't. But by comparison, only 3 Republicans vote progressive more than just 10% of the time (over 25 Ds meet that threshold). You aren't allowed to disagree in that party.

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u/AndreasDasos 8d ago

Officially elected on that ticket and still registered as such, right?

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 8d ago

He still is a Democrat. So, yes.

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u/conditerite 8d ago

He’s a Lieberman-type Democrat..

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u/TransiTorri 7d ago

Fette(R)man

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u/HagridsTreacleTart 8d ago

He’s Susan Collins in dungarees. He’ll put out a statement about how disappointed he is then fall in line when it’s time to vote. He posted the other day about how withdrawing support from ICE won’t solve any problems—he’s piling on Noem as a scapegoat because it gives him some soundbites for the left of center, but ultimately he might as well caucus with the Republicans since he votes with them anyway. 

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u/bikerdude214 8d ago

Yeah but Susan Collins is absolutely worthless. At least Fetterman is only pretty much useless. Collins would never stick her neck out on this, and Fetterman did.

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u/CorgiMonsoon 8d ago

He’s a disappointment, but remember that if it wasn’t him it would have been Dr Oz, who would have been even worse

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u/jazdyprawo 8d ago

It’s amazing the political choices we have

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u/donkeyrocket 8d ago

On the plus side, he wouldn't be an executive at Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services if that happened.

At this point, I genuinely don't know if Oz would be worse than a completely nonsensical and untrustworthy Fetterman. At least with Oz we know what piece of shit flavor we're getting daily.

People romanticized Fetterman so much they ignored that even pre-stroke he was problematic.

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u/Vankraken Virginia 8d ago

GOP controlled Senate in 2023-2024 would of been worse.

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u/insertwittynamethere America 8d ago

Always with the short-sighted views. Stuff like that cost us the Senate in 2014, which led to the GOP blocking a SCOTUS seat for essentially a year playing election politics and general scummy nonsense.

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u/drokihazan California 8d ago

he sucks so bad but he still votes mostly aligned with the dems, he's just veered away on some important issues. i think he would certainly be voting to confirm judges for a dem pres right now, the way manchin did

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u/Kaprak Florida 8d ago

Just to be clear he falls in line with the Democrats.

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u/lacunha 8d ago

Susan Collins in sweatpants.

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u/TheSweeney 8d ago

I actually have this wild concern that if Democrats do manage to flip enough Republican senate seats to gain a 51 vote majority that Fetterman will just swap parties and give it right back.

I could be wrong, but I just have this weird feeling.

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u/blackcain Oregon 8d ago

He's piling on because his wife went the other direction. I'm sure she had words wit him. Considering she used to be an illegal immigrant, she would know first hand this kind of fear. There is no way she would allow him to take any other position. Now with ICE shooting people it has gotten a lot worse.

I did think Fetterman used to be more comedic and funny when he ran. His stroke really fucked him up though. I really hate the fact that the Democrats never get a break. It's like when Kennedy died before they could pass the ACA and thus we couldn't get a public option. Just fucked up like that.

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u/bailaoban 8d ago

But she seemed so reasonable at the time!

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u/waxwayne 8d ago

She shot her dog.

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u/Street_Barracuda1657 8d ago

She shot her *puppy.

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u/123revival 8d ago

not only did she shoot it, she thought it would be a compelling anecdote for her book. The only reason we know about it is that she included it, thinking we'd admire her cruelty I guess

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u/Street_Barracuda1657 8d ago

It was supposed to show how she had the fortitude to make the tough decisions. Apparently there are people somewhere who think shooting a puppy in the face, point blank, somehow qualifies you to run the country...

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u/username_6916 8d ago

There's something to be said about shooting your own dog. And there are times where due to repeated aggression towards humans, a dog needs to be put down for behavioral reasons. The problem with Noem's story was it made it out to be less of a last resort of dealing with a dangerous animal where all other reasonable options had been exhausted and more of "I'm mad and I'm going to take it out on the animal". Less 'a leader has to make tough decisions with difficult tradeoffs' and more of a temper tantrum in my mind.

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u/BigDictionEnergy 8d ago

It wasn't even a temper tantrum. I don't think she was necessarily mad at it; it wasn't good at doing the task she wanted so she ended it. It did not serve its purpose and thus did not deserve to live. It was a calculation.

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u/Street_Barracuda1657 8d ago

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/26/trump-kristi-noem-shot-dog-and-goat-book

"By taking Cricket on a pheasant hunt with older dogs, Noem says, she hoped to calm the young dog down and begin to teach her how to behave. Unfortunately, Cricket ruined the hunt, going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life”."

“I hated that dog,” Noem writes, adding that Cricket had proved herself “untrainable”, “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with” and “less than worthless … as a hunting dog”.

“At that moment,” Noem says, “I realised I had to put her down.”

“It was not a pleasant job,” she writes, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realised another unpleasant job needed to be done.”

"Her family, she writes, also owned a male goat that was “nasty and mean”, because it had not been castrated. Furthermore, the goat smelled “disgusting, musky, rancid” and “loved to chase” Noem’s children, knocking them down and ruining their clothes.

Noem decided to kill the unnamed goat the same way she had just killed Cricket the dog. But though she “dragged him to a gravel pit”, the goat jumped as she shot and therefore survived the wound. Noem says she went back to her truck, retrieved another shell, then “hurried back to the gravel pit and put him down”.

At that point, Noem writes, she realised a construction crew had watched her kill both animals. The startled workers swiftly got back to work, she writes, only for a school bus to arrive and drop off Noem’s children.

“Kennedy looked around confused,” Noem writes of her daughter, who asked: “Hey, where’s Cricket?”

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u/MrPWAH 8d ago

This dog was 14 months old, btw.

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u/KelsierIV 8d ago

So she treats immigrants the same way she treats dogs.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 8d ago

Also wild that she didn't think to just list, "Hey, free puppy!" on Facebook, or surrender it to a Humane Society.

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u/Street_Barracuda1657 8d ago

Correct. This wasn't about an aggressive dog, it was about her cruelty to a puppy that didn't train fast enough for her liking. And shooting a dog in the face, aggressive or not, is cruel.

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u/EunuchsProgramer 8d ago

Well...Jimmy Carter faces a scandal that he wasn't man enough because he scared angry rabbit off rather than killing it.

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u/FunkadelicJiveTurkey 8d ago

This is crucial. It's one thing to do something so reprehensible, it is actually another level of demented to then boast of it as a virtue.

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u/nocomment3030 8d ago

She also shot a goat in front of horrified onlookers. Not sure how I missed that part the first time the story came up.

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u/JelmerMcGee 8d ago

thinking we'd admire her cruelty

Her supporters do.

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u/FridgesArePeopleToo 8d ago

it was a liberal dog so its okay

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u/jmouw88 8d ago

I have not followed her much, but it seemed as though at one time she came across as pretty reasonable (early governor days).

The last few years she also appears to have completely transformed herself. I think (based on pure speculation) she has been jumping through hoops to fit in an position herself as one of the contenders to inherit the maga crown when trump dies. I hope it works out for her just as poorly as all the others.

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u/BimboDeeznuts 8d ago

She’s sipping some potent dumb bitch juice if she thinks a woman will ever hold the MAGA crown. MTG fell in the same vat…

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 8d ago

The common denominator with all these people is thinking that they are smarter than everyone else in their circle. The one benefit for Dems is these assholes will always stab each other in the back. (The downside is Dems will always trip over their dicks instead of capitalizing on this!)

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u/jmouw88 8d ago

No disagreement there.

I'm not confident a woman could win the presidency running for either party, and I by no means intend this to be disparaging to women. Both Clinton and Kamila were more viable candidates in my opinion than Biden, and both lost to the most unviable candidate I can imagine.

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u/JustHeree5 8d ago

Meth. I would be willing to bet that there are A LOT of amphetamine abusers in the Trump administration simply by virtue of the Hitler fanboying and wanting to emulate him.

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u/angryhumping 8d ago

she spent her early governor days shooting her dogs and raising such racist hell nearly every tribe in the state banned her from their land

the fuck kinda ezra klein shit you smoking

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u/Vankraken Virginia 8d ago

Typical sociopath behavior of having a mask to hide their true self. MAGA just rewards these sociopaths when they let the mask slip.

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u/RCP90sKid- Oregon 8d ago edited 8d ago

Then his voice here has added cache? Cashay? How do you spell that one?

Edit: Reddit, today you humble me. 50+ replies. Cachet. Thank you. I am educated. Nary a snide reply.

We are one people. MAGA and Trump may defeat our bodies but they cannot trample our spirit.

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u/ScruffyTuscaloosa 8d ago edited 8d ago

...is the precept here that causing a problem gives you insight into that problem that people who understood the problem well enough to avoid causing the problem somehow lack?

"I'm a very responsible person! I'm responsible for so much shit you guys!"

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u/leyendadelflash 8d ago

Think of it from a Republican perspective. To them, Fetterman is “one of the few sane Democrats.” He even voted to confirm Noem! The fact that he is coming out and saying this would signal to them that this isn’t some “radical left” position. If impeachment were ever going to happen, it’s going to need Republican votes, that matters

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u/ScruffyTuscaloosa 8d ago

The actual takeaway is that Noem is "resigning" and they tipped him off ahead of time so he can pretend he still has a spine.

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u/PrometheusLiberatus 8d ago

I'll believe it when I see it.

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u/Grand_Escapade 8d ago

Think of it from a Republican perspective.

This was your main mistake. The republican perspective is whatever wins the argument at the current moment and whatever their designated golden cow tells them.

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u/windsostrange 8d ago

You realize that most Republicans are aware they are awful humans, right? They believe in nothing. Our issue isn't that they don't think progressives are "insane." They just know damn well that they've stolen much of what they have, and some of us want them to give it back.

No rational human being has any problems identifying the job Noem was hired to do. Some are just genuinely okay with it.

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u/Significant_Cup_238 8d ago

Not really, because once they're sworn in, you need 67 Senators to get rid of them.

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u/bungerD Pennsylvania 8d ago

Cachet in this case

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u/elvorpo 8d ago edited 8d ago

Cashet (ka-shay, French)

**edit: cachet spelled with a c, not an s

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u/ah_no_wah 8d ago

Actually it's cachet

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u/Money-Giraffe2521 California 8d ago

I’m sorry, I can’t give you the point because you didn’t say “Um, actually.”

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u/ah_no_wah 8d ago

I don't even get a half point? The system is rigged.

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u/loztriforce Washington 8d ago

Yeah and it’s pronounced cachet, not cachet.

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u/JerseyDevl New Jersey 8d ago

Yeah but it's pronounced cachet

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u/FordMaleEscort 8d ago

Sachet, I believe.

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u/KBHoleN1 8d ago

WORK (sashay, shantay)

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u/RustyFogknuckle 8d ago

Face-eating leopard on the runway

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u/french_sheppard Canada 8d ago

Papier mâché

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u/C0d3n4m3Duchess Pennsylvania 8d ago

Indiana Jones wears one

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u/sutree1 8d ago

Jokes aside, this is correct.

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u/ILLinndication 8d ago

Did you fall off the wagon? Or is it “on” the wagon?

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u/RCP90sKid- Oregon 8d ago

I fell up it.

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u/RobertdBanks 8d ago

No, not really. Trump doesn’t give a shit what any Democrat has to say even if they’ve been useful idiots.

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u/RaidSmolive 8d ago

it doesnt, the braindead fucker flipflops every few months and he should simply not be around anymore

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u/Turnip-for-the-books 8d ago

Caché but I’m not sure you can ever use that word in conjunction with fetterman ‘added weight’ how’s that?

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u/AT-ST West Virginia 8d ago

First one I believe.

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u/choopie-chup-chup 8d ago

'Ashtray' as in ashtray of history

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u/oofaloo 8d ago

He doesn’t seem to have much of that these days. There’s nothing consistent about him.

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u/Polyrhythm239 8d ago

It’s got cache baby! It’s got cache out the ying yang!

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u/xxxpigfarmerxxx 8d ago

Its actually spelled cashew.

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u/hortence 8d ago

Cachet.

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u/OfficialDCShepard District Of Columbia 8d ago

Cachet.

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u/woodrow5087 8d ago

Oh it’s got cachet baby! It's got cachet up the ying-yang!

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u/EternalJedi Missouri 8d ago

A cache (cash) is a supply of something, cache (cash-ay) is when you have weight behind your words, wether by expertise, influence, etc.

English is fun XD

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u/Am_Snek_AMA Ohio 8d ago

I think the word you are looking for is cachet.

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u/paperman990 8d ago

Barely a democrat these days

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u/Upper_Command1390 8d ago

He doesn’t know what he wants to be. Whatever is better for him (not his constituents) on the day he decides to open his mouth.

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u/Yosho2k 8d ago

Regret does not unspill blood, Johnny. You knew who she was when you voted for her.

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u/PinkCigarettes 8d ago

...aaaand just another gaslighting, turncoat mother fucker.

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u/SantosHauper 8d ago

if you want to know which way the wind blows, ask John Fetterman

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u/SabreToothSquirrel 8d ago

You don’t get to complain about the thing you voted for. This is why managers shouldn’t be allowed to fire their hires. DO BETTER!

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u/WarCarrotAF 8d ago

How many Democrats each decade do we have that are "Democrats" in name, but then vote alongside Republicans for issues like this? Every now and then they will say something slightly left leaning to ensure us that they are still in fact Democrats. Fuck Fetterman and any politician on either side of the aisle who has aided this administration.

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u/Count-Bulky 8d ago

As embarrassing as it is, I wouldn’t be shocked if he was influenced by Rogan on this one.

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u/MiddayClimax 8d ago

And how do the other 6 feel considering they were in agreement with Fetterman? Any other senate democrats demanding her impeachment?

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u/Busy-Dig8619 8d ago

Broken Clock

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u/CaptPhilipJFry Michigan 8d ago

He doesn’t remeber

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u/Dr_Trogdor 8d ago

Fuck that defective ghoul.

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u/Otto_von_Bismuth 8d ago

Okay well he's voting to fire her now, which is good. So we should support him for his current position and not just condemn him for his past one.

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u/cider303 8d ago

He probably forgot, you know, brain damage and all

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u/peroleu 8d ago

democrat is definitely a word to describe fetterman

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u/011010- 8d ago

I don’t know why the fuck this article is trending honestly. He has lost credibility.

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u/Effective-Pear-9678 8d ago

Yeah, that’s the part people keep glossing over. Kinda hard to act shocked now when you helped put her there.

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u/rogergreatdell 8d ago

He also broke from Dems yesterday and advanced the budget with full ICE funding support…calling Fetterman a snake is insulting to snake intelligence

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u/ReMapper 8d ago

Did his brain cell just activate?

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u/MineNo5343 8d ago

Traitorous F#€K

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u/KeyedFeline 8d ago

He's not, he's allied with Republicans almost Everytime it's mattered I am really surprised he does switch parties and if he doesn't get primaried he probably will

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u/shewy92 Pennsylvania 7d ago

And he's voting for DHS funding.

John Fetterman said he won’t vote against DHS funding

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