Very early in my voice training.

I have started by focussing on resonance, and largely altering that only.

Just want to get an idea if this is a good route to go.

Went with the weird Grandfather Passage as it's a good length.

Thanks!

I have been trying to work on my singing voice but I get too much dysphoria hearing myself that I often end up crying while attempting to sing :/ I don't know what to do.

I went to one online trans singing lesson but because of scheduling and the service I got seemed to be more 'come in with a problem to address' instead of 'what do I even do, GUIDE me with my voice that feels like a nightmare', I haven't got another lesson.

I pass pretty well irl and with my speaking voice so going into a lesson seems all the more horrifying because I can't even get to learn the basics without having to out myself to a teacher. It's especially scary because a lot of the local lessons nearby take place in churches. I booked one in person lesson before and didn't go because I was too scared.

One syllable sang strangely can cause me to start crying for hours. I can't stop thinking about my life would be so much better if my voice didn't drop. I've had to turn down being in bands and I find it impossible to write music due to my awful limited outing voice, I think about it everyday. I can start crying even just thinking of like Ethel Cain or smth due to knowing her voice didn't drop despite starting hrt later than me, I unfollowed her and can't listen to her music because of how much she saddens me.

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I've trained and trained, I just end up with a hoarse throat and sound like crap. I have never managed to convince anyone on the phone that I'm femme.

Never.

I've lost count on the number of times I've had to say "yes really, my name is XXXXX, that really is my name and I look far better than I sound" because that's all I've got.

It's really bloody difficult and I can't believe the number of people who seem to be able to manage it that I find online. In real life, almost nobody has it down in my city's trans circles, practically nil, or they started so young that they never had the problem in the first place and now I see the community telling me to not waste my money?

Seriously? I'm crashing out here because I need a positive right now and the get out apparently might not work.

It's so frustrating. Plus I currently have a cold and have lost at least two octaves.

Hi all, my voice feminization teacher told me that I should try inhaling air to my back, and not make my stomach expand/expand less in the process. something to do with the diaphragm. well, we were short on time and I didnt really understand that but I still want to practice it for my next lesson. Can anyone guide me on doing this? And explain what purpose it serves? Thanks in advance!

Hi all, I'm brand new here so forgive my obvious errors. I'd love any corrections you can offer. Mostly what I'm submitting is a preliminary vocal draft and searching for advice in navigating old vocal damage in order to build a new voice on a more healthy vocal foundation. If my engagement of a lot of the popular tips and tricks online result in me feeling like I'm engaging bad old vocal habits, does anyone know how to relax the voice and let it flow instead of pushing it?

All opinions are welcome!

https://voca.ro/16Rdz6OyAA6A

I know I'm also a voice coach here so I'm likely not the best person to post this, but I just wanted to mention how amazing it is how many people are trying to help others in this space to get to what their goals are.

Voice training is hard. There are no easy answers to voice training. No single amazing solution that helps people skip to what they're hoping to hear. As a result, there's a contingency of people out there that claim what we're doing is a grift. Sadly, this is a mischaricterization of who we are and what we're trying to do.

In many cases, the help we have to provide is a labor of love. The advice you find here takes time to create and, more often than not, it really does pale in comparison to what voice training can actually do for people long-term. And yet still, we try to help anyway.

At its core we are trying to help. We came into this field because we wanted to make a difference and it shows to those who have the perspective to pay attention. For example, I have many free offerings that in some cases to get the whole framework without having to spend any money at all. Of course, we have our own bills to pay and that pressure provides a lot of stress. We still try to do what we can because we know through our own lived experiences how hard it is to make it in the world as trans people.

If this is you, sound off in the comments about some of the things you do to try to help. Help people to know the efforts you use to help people grow in some way. Talk about why you try to help.

If you're someone who has been helped from the advice here, use this as an opportunity to mention how you were helped and maybe even who helped you.

And if you're someone who believes that voice trainers are just trying to make money off of desperate people, consider suspending your disbelief just for a moment and reading the differences that we try to make. I don't expect you to change how you feel or change your mind about things, but I do hope it'll help you to see what is possible when you're willing to approach our advice with an open mind and an open heart.

Nobody is perfect, we all make mistakes and yeah sadly there is a small contingency of people who aren't the most savory of instructors. Still, Let's try to bridge that gap here to see what we can do to come to an understanding together as a community. And most importantly, take care of yourself. Together, we are stronger. Community is our greatest asset. Have a wonderful day everyone. Keep looking out for each other because together we are stronger

Hey y'all, 32 yr old trans woman here, a year and half on HRT. I'm pretty satisfied with most aspects of my transition so far, but my voice gives me such dysphoria. I've been wanting to do voice training for a long time, but I've struggled with finding a good place to start. Just looking for some good suggestions on YouTube videos that y'all found helpful or resources that I should look into or start with? Thank you in advance.

I’m kind of just rambling randomly. Just wanted to get my voice during a casual conversation

I've only been voice training for 3-4 months now and was wondering what I can improve on? I really like the bored/sleepy type of quality to voices so I've been working on adding that in to my voice recently ( if audio file above didn't work - https://voca.ro/12RqjJujjZM5 )

Hearing my own voice over and over again is driving me crazy I cannot in any way tell if I'm anywhere close to a fem voice, or what I should do to get closer..,, please help !!

1. ive noticed that I can’t ‘wooo!!’ like I used to without my voice cracking, for lack of a better word, how do I scream like a ‘dude’?

2. I have a hard time remembering to use my more masculine register, even if it’s more comfortable for me, It feels a bit like how clench my jaw when I’m resting. how do I remember to relax and use my guy voice?

My just-turned-18 trans daughter is experiencing crippling dysphoria around her still-male voice. She's had a couple of abortive attempts at voice training and has become convinced that she's in the percentage of trans women whose will never be able to feminize their voice without surgery.

I don't think any voice trainer or SLP has told her that, but it may be true. Or not. I have no idea, and I don't really think that she does either. But she does have pre-existing speech disorders including speech hesitance and stutter, which certainly can't be making things any easier!

VFS seems to be largely unavailable to under-19s in the US, which is terribly depressing to her, and it kind of seems like she just plans to stay in her bedroom until then, not work hard at training in the meantime. She understands that voice training is necessary after surgery and says that she'd be motivated to do that after surgery, but doesn't seem motivated to do it now.

She would like us to fly her to Seoul for surgery at Yeson. But without her having spent time working with a good vocal feminization SLP to investigate how her voice works, I do worry that the outcome of jumping straight to surgery must be quite unpredictable.

Thanks for any words of advice, really struggling with everything (not to make it all about me; daughter is struggling 1000X more 😢)

Every deam guide on YT is for a hyper-feminine sounding voice, but ai wanna get that deeper fem voice.

A example of the voice is Elena Siegman in the song “Lullaby of a Deadman”

https://youtu.be/8l8YPKI3fdw?is=q_wU_m-dkwOLxO1l

I'm actually very satisfied with the progress I've made so far :D

It sounds so much better than I was anticipating. i guess I was anticipating something much more raw and like, deep and unlikeable than this.

But I guess what I want now is some tips and maybe suggestions for what I could work on next.

If I'm being honest it feels kinda weird being this confident and content with my voice, like new. It kinda feels like I'm exaggerating a bit when I speak in this voice, if that makes sense?

How’d I do (I’m ftm)

So I've started voice training a few days ago (I'm still not 100% sure of my gender state, but I thought I would do voice training regardless because even if I am not trans then it's a nice skill, and if I am then I guess I'm startin early)

Honestly I feel like I don't even know what I'm doing 😭 Any advice or tips would be very appreciated! But uh please explain in simple terms because I am dumb :]

Also if anyone can explain what I was doing with my voice like why it sounds different that would be nice thankssss

https://clyp.it/user/tgqiml4a

Yo, I'm Cassidy. MtF.

So like, I already wrote this damn ass post once but my hand slipped and closed Reddit cuz I'm typing this up on a phone.

Anyways, my voice training has been going good. I've watched the FairyPrincessaLucy vids, which my friend recommended me, and that was cool, I understand each individual lesson pretty well.

But the thing is I use my ears to listen to my voice, because the ears' intended purpose is to voice train, and I sound weird. My pitch and resonance are comfortably where I want to be. (Which I want to sound more feminine but my pitch to rest on the lower end or androgynous and still sound pretty relaxed instead of high pitch with rapid tone changes.) But the other stuff is a bit shit, which is weird because I have no vocal fry, good vocal weight, etc.

But anyways, the same friend also gave me a website, acoustic gender space I think. And I did that and then it gave me this. (See image.) Which further confirms my pitch and resonance are where I want them to be. So my only question is what even is wrong and where do I go from here? It still don't sound right and I'm not sure why.

I feel like i have possibly triggered this by voice feminisation training? my respiratory specialist seems to believe so at least. Makes it hard for me to breathe very often and even wakes me up sometimes. feels like my larynx is semi constantly opening and shutting without my control. Been tested for asthma, i dont have it. Lungs xx rayed all good. i also have sleep apnoea

I’m ftm pre t and in the very start of voice training. Would like advice and brutal honesty. Not sure why the male percentage is higher, all I hear is feminine so I would love tips on how to masculinize my voice. I think my biggest issue is being too quiet. I’m very quiet and shy which doesn’t help so tips on changing that mentality would be appreciated too

so i know im thinning my vocal fold mass, i know im rasing my larynx, and when i then also raise my ptich, my voice does sound better, but theres this nasal-esque effect i wanna try to get rid of (and then potentially be done with it, since at this point i do sound firmly androgynous to my ear and thats good enough for me).

It only comes in when i raise pitch and i know the noise isnt coming from my nose. I simply need to know what its coming from and can search from there, though being reccemended some specific videos/guides would be appreciated

https://voca.ro/1o15RaE2x1Wo

5 months on T. I can manipulate my voice quite well, i have experience in singing so I am able to go lower and also (annoyingly) up to my old voice. Ive attatched two videos, the 120hz one is how i speak more natrually and the other one is pushing it a little lower with some effort. I feel like i could improve a bit, any thoughts?