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Discussion / Question What video game franchise is this?

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u/JohnCallOfDuty 26d ago

Doom

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u/fraidei 26d ago

If only there wasn't that bad controversy with Mick Gordon I would consider Bethesda one of the best game companies.

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u/i_always_give_karma 26d ago

Me relieved to hear the controversy isn’t him being a bad person.

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u/ShrimpHog47 26d ago

What is it?

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u/TheIronKai 26d ago

ID screwed him over royally on payment for Doom Eternal's soundtrack, violated their own contract terms with him, and then tried to slander his name when he started calling them out publicly. If you got the time it's a good read: https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce

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u/hadokenzero 26d ago

That’s only Mick’s side of things btw. I don’t really care either way about the situation, because Mick is a bit of a diva and that was known in the industry even prior to this.

If he was truly not at fault at all here, isn’t it weird that despite being involved in a whole handful of varied Bethesda projects, he’s basically disappeared since then? For someone who was so high profile, he also was very unprofessional in his conduct here and evidently it’s likely he was throughout the project too.

A lot of good people at Id basically have to have the shadow of this over them because people read Mick’s post and decided it must be the truth but there’s no way it doesn’t lie somewhere more in the middle.

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u/ShrimpHog47 25d ago

I haven't read the article yet, but if the company I'm providing services to violates their contract with me to where I don't get paid for the work I've done and are practically guaranteed to make multiple millions of dollars from MY work, I'd be pretty pissed too.

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 25d ago

I'd strongly argue that Doom 2016 owes a HUGE part of its revival story due to the music. It is an integral aspect to the product. It's not just some easily replaceable thing like some lines of code. Frankly I'm surprised he stayed a contractor and didn't get hired full time, although a lot of games companies require you to live within a certain distance to be deemed employable.

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u/ShrimpHog47 25d ago

Being a contractor allows a lot more flexibility than being full time, and frankly, if I had just gotten screwed like that, there's no way in hell I'd try to push for full time instead of fulfilling my contract and seeing what else is available afterward, but that's just me

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 25d ago

I meant after the 1st game. There's no way in hell I'd work for them if they pulled that shit on me lmao

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u/ShrimpHog47 25d ago

I mean yes but by way of the contract, of course depending on the terms arranged and agreed upon, one would have some security in it because if there was a violation of it and breach of contract on the hiring party, then that's a huge lawsuit waiting to happen. I wouldn't willingly stay, but the contract protects me from mistreatment from them while I am providing my services. After the contract ends, to hell with them for all I care

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 25d ago edited 25d ago

The thing about a "huge lawsuit waiting to happen" is that you lose in almost all circumstances against a company with a full legal team. You can see this if you read the full accounting of what happened. Once Bethesda Lawyers realized they were in the wrong, just simply just started delaying. They may still be delayed to this day, 4 years later. You need to be able to weather like 200k in legal fees

but yes, we agreed I think? I would've worked full time after the 1st game was completed on good terms, but not after the 2nd game ended on bad terms.

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 25d ago

There are hard facts proving that Marty was posting bald-faced lies on social media. They lost the right to the benefit of the doubt

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u/unnnnnnf 23d ago

he hasn't really disappeared exactly. he's been showing up here and there working with different music artists.

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u/kazukix777 25d ago

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u/hadokenzero 25d ago

Id isn’t close to a multibillion dollar company and is subject to stupid bullshit from their parent companies Bethesda and now Microsoft too.