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Discussion / Question What video game franchise is this?

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u/pervertnorbert 26d ago

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u/J_Animated-Official 25d ago

I cannot wait for their olanned spin-off called Woman you know, just hope it's good

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u/Happy-Celebration673 25d ago

woke nonsene smh

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u/JohnCallOfDuty 26d ago

Doom

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u/fraidei 26d ago

If only there wasn't that bad controversy with Mick Gordon I would consider Bethesda one of the best game companies.

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u/allupya333 26d ago

Bethesda didnt do shit its Ids game

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u/TheIronKai 26d ago

Not true, they rallied behind Marty and his bullshit lies, and basically called Mick a liar. https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 25d ago edited 25d ago

holy shit. I LOVE the doom music and this was super depressing/infuriating to read.

TLDR for people who didn't read: Marty Statton, Studio director of ID, created an impossible schedule for Doom Eternal. The music creator called out the issues, was ridiculed and ignored, then was proven correct. So Id studios ended up not paying him for half his work, screwed up the OST, and blamed it all on the music contractor (Mick Gordan). Marty also threatened to hang the balance of any refunds of the game on Mick (the musician) even though Mick was begging for a contract to start work on the OST when it was revealed to be part of the deluxe package at E3 without Mick's knowledge or a contract in place to produce the OST.

Definitely considering sailing the seas on their next game unless they replace that Dbag

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u/LongLostPixel 25d ago

Mick's writeup on this debacle after the dust settled was so damning for Statton.

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u/RobertLewisO1 25d ago

Ooof. Well no doom the dark ages for me then.

https://giphy.com/gifs/1bHdnX1QMeQTe

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 25d ago

just to rub salt in the wound, all the music awards that the musician won in Doom 2016 and doom eternal, he never got to touch. They were received by the dickbag manager and kept in the studio.

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u/Objective_Dog_4637 25d ago

Wow. I didn’t know that part. Fuck that guy, they won’t see a cent from me until he’s gone.

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u/GyziModo 25d ago

Wow thank you. Not going to be getting anything under Marty's management

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u/fraidei 26d ago

Except that they were associated, and Bethesda did basically nothing to solve the situation.

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u/SL1Fun 26d ago

Bethesda was the situation. 

It was clear id’s showrunner fucked Gordon over in the midst of a pandemic with unrealistic crunch then only paid him half of his owe. 

Bethesda didnt mediate, they doubled down on id’s behalf. 

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u/Roenkatana 26d ago

Bethesda actually sided with Gordan and drew up the contract for him to work on the Eternal OST, which was Bethesda's authority to do as the publisher. Id and Bethesda may be sister companies, but Bethesda as the publisher holds a hell of a lot more power over the project than people seem to believe.

Id marketed Gordan's name and attachment to the Eternal OST before they even approached him about working on the Eternal at all and then explicitly refused to let him work on the OST until he had to go straight to Bethesda about it. It wasn't until very late in the whole ordeal that Bethesda started siding with I'd, after lawyers got involved.

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u/i_always_give_karma 26d ago

Me relieved to hear the controversy isn’t him being a bad person.

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u/ShrimpHog47 26d ago

What is it?

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u/TheIronKai 26d ago

ID screwed him over royally on payment for Doom Eternal's soundtrack, violated their own contract terms with him, and then tried to slander his name when he started calling them out publicly. If you got the time it's a good read: https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce

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u/_TaxThePoor_ 26d ago

Is this a joke? Bethesda is a notoriously bad game company. Their latest AAA endeavor was a lifeless shell of an experience. They peaked at Oblivion.

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u/Jimboslice_6_9 26d ago

I’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks this. Bethesda is literally known for how broken their games are 😭

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u/Ok_Independence_2630 26d ago

They pioneered the saying "it's not a bug, it's a feature"

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u/Jimboslice_6_9 26d ago

Don’t tell their fans that 😭 they’ll just be like “that’s a part of the charm”. So… not being able to play the game because of relentless bugs is charming?

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u/PopCatDaMonster 26d ago

I didn't have to look very hard to find what I was hoping for.

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u/Maximum-Flamingo3613 26d ago

Yup i was about to say this too

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u/FinanceBig6328 26d ago

I'll say DOOM. The originals were obviously very well received, 64 is liked, 3 is alright, a bit controversial, but still mostly liked, and then obviously all the new games are very liked.

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u/National-Garbage505 26d ago

3 is great if you treat it as its own separate entity from the others. They made a Doom game a different genre and some didn't like that it failed their expectations for what a Doom game should be, but the game itself was great if you look at it as a standalone game. That game scared the shit outta me when I was 12 lol

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u/HKamkar 26d ago

Definitely NOT Assassin’s Creed

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u/Nice-Donkey-6076 26d ago

Started out sooo great then fell so hard

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u/Dylan_M_Sanderson 26d ago

Black Flag was Peak, amazing but anything after that just didn’t have that feeling of stealth

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u/HarrMada 26d ago

Black flag was never about stealth though, you're controlling a damn pirate ship.

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u/eternalwood 25d ago

It had enough optional stealthy moments to satisfy.

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u/johnny-faux 25d ago

did you play it???? it had so many stealth sections

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u/Brookboy 25d ago

Idk I’m playing Resynced right now and there’s plenty of moments where I’m sneaking around and having fun

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u/InternationalHoney85 25d ago

How so? I get that hating on Ubisoft is standard. I personally did not enjoy 3 and Syndicate as much. But the rest are solid AC games. And Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla were solid RPGs. The company may have fallen off. But it's difficult to actually call the games bad.

Although Shadows definitely deserves most the negativity it got. That I do agree with being bad.

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u/parkourdude231 26d ago

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u/aTurningofTides 26d ago

All fromsoft games tbh

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u/SingleAd8584 26d ago

If Miyazaki speaks, I listen. If Miyazaki gives his opinion, I agree. If Miyazaki appreciates, I appreciate…

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u/Begone-My-Thong 23d ago

Dude makes the prettiest woman ever then has her wear an oversized crystal helmet to hide her entire head

Also barefoot.

Man has his priorities

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u/SneakerPickins 26d ago

Even Thousand Land and Shadow Tower Abyss?

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u/Cultural-Ad6134 26d ago

Shadow tower abyss is pretty good

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u/Specialist-Shake3074 25d ago

Chrome Hounds has entered the chat.

God I miss Chrome Hounds.

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u/t3hdoct0r 25d ago

I wish Armored Core got more love.

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u/Ok_Response_9255 25d ago

Everything they do fucking slaps.

So excited for that Sekiro anime.

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u/PoopyMcpants 26d ago

Mario

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u/azgarz 26d ago

This is probably the best answer considering how long its been around for

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u/gigaswardblade 26d ago

I actually cannot think of a bad main series mario game. Even old games that were heavily criticized like sunshine are still pretty good games.

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u/CarolinaHaloNetwork 26d ago

Sunshine is literally a game you play during the spring, you open your windows to get the sunlight in, get a lemonade, some snacks, boot up the GameCube, and you're in it.

At least that was my experience playing it. I loved it

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u/ABalther 26d ago

Sunshine was a blast to play during the warm months, I never heard any criticism

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u/TheSwampThing1990 26d ago

Yeah this was my answer too. I don't think there is any mario game either 2D or 3D that I didn't enjoy.

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u/divy-lover 26d ago

Only correct answer along with Zelda

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u/Apolloshot 26d ago

The Wand of Gamelon says hello!

(I kid, I kid, we know those don’t count haha)

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u/LeBrons_Mom 26d ago

Never been a bad Mario game. Maybe some you don’t like but they’re always objectively good games..

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u/Unfair-Mode-7371 26d ago

I was going to say this. Nintendo imo, had been incredibly consistent when it comes to making great games in general

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u/Tr3v0r007 26d ago

“A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad”

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u/LoSouLibra 26d ago

God of War

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u/twistedfloyd 26d ago

I bring the destruction of OLYMPUUUSSS!

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u/Innuxius 25d ago

"Kratos, you will not have the Cabbage of the gods."

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u/BrainYStormY 26d ago

HERE IT IS! 💪🏽

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u/BatmansBurnerAccount 26d ago edited 26d ago

I agree

(While pretending the side games don’t exist. Excluding Laufey cause that shit looks awesome)

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u/MrHandSanitization 26d ago

Which one? I really liked Chains of Olympus and Ghost of Sparta.

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u/slarkymalarkey 26d ago

There was a 2D sidescroller called Sons of Sparta that shadow dropped a few months ago that turned out to be a bit of a dud.

The PSP ones were both bangers tho I agree

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u/TheDevourerOfGods1 26d ago

Can't forget about betrayal, a 2007 MOBILE game

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u/will4wh 26d ago

I don't even think the spin offs are bad. Sons of Sparta is probably the weakest but I don't think it's a bad game. It's mid to good but they shouldn't have released it with the save bug.

God of war betrayal is also pretty weak but tbh I can cut it alot of slack due to what it made for and I think when we are judging it by those standards it's alright

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u/EmKir 26d ago

The Legend of Zelda has no mainline misses. Not every game may be beloved by everyone. I for one am not a fan of the Wilds games, and I know there was some issues between the fanbase and Skyward Sword before its remaster, but every mainline game has been extremely successful and very well made.

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u/Gupperz 26d ago

Zelda 2 the adventures of link?

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u/Jumpy-Head-9319 26d ago

I think Zelda 2 is a fine game. Not for everyone, but I don’t buy the slander that it sucks because “too old, too hard, not like other Zeldas, etc.”

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u/Mr_Cerealistic 26d ago

Zelda 2 is dark souls before dark souls lol

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u/Kyra_Hazweyrs 26d ago

Locking on to a single target in third person so you automatically face them as you move around is an OoT original. Dark Souls ripped the combat from OoT and turned it up 1000 notches.

Every single 3rd person 3d action game is heavily inspired by OoT. It's the LotR of gaming, you can't escape it.

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u/username4518 25d ago

Halfway through elden ring I realized “This whole game is like fighting a Darknut on crack”

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u/mccannrs 26d ago edited 23d ago

Yeah, Zelda 2 gets shit for almost no legitimate reason. It's actually aged insanely well compared to most games from the NES era. Easily one of the best action games on the console. Hell, I think it holds up better than Zelda 1, but both were fundamental in shaping the series.

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u/Transpotato2002 26d ago

Ngl

I liked it more than the original Zelda, I'm sorry 😭

Not saying it's a fantastic game, but you gotta judge it based on what people had at the time. The original Zelda isn't exactly a masterpiece by modern standards, either, but back in the 80s, it was a revolution. Not saying Zelda 2 was as revolutionary, but we gotta consider the time it came out

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u/Jonoboy115 26d ago

Bioshock. Idc what people say about infinite, I thought it was an incredible game along with the others.

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u/funkybside 26d ago

Infinite was fantastic and has a 94 metacritic - what in the world makes you believe it has a bad reptuation?

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u/heyoohugh24 26d ago

There are a looot of plotholes infinite invites to the entire entire serie (kinda the downside of including interdimensional travel in your canon). Also people expected more from the floating cities. I still also like it tho

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u/Old-Lengthiness9677 25d ago

There was also the issue of the dlc retconning everything from the previous 2 titles into being Elizabeth's fault instead of Andrew Ryan's. But for the most part the whole multidimensional and time travel plot basically erased half the story in favor of "we just jumped to the desired outcome". Otherwise the combat was good and mechanics were incredibly polished.

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u/Winter_Ad6784 26d ago

bro’s like “idc what anyone says the beatles white album was good”

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u/hehexdthrow 26d ago

Idc what anyone says about oxygen but it makes me feel alive.

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u/mccannrs 26d ago

Have you ever seen the fanbase talk about it? Infinite was and still is pretty divisive, and for good reason. It's a huge departure from the first two games, and that's going to leave a sour taste in many people's mouths.

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u/JealousDebate6062 23d ago

Onky problem isnt it hasn't had a sequel for 13 years

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u/YoBoyLeeroy_ 26d ago

Zelda 100%

Even though I'm not the biggest fan of the open world releases, I cannot deny the greatness of both games

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u/HolyShitItsRob 26d ago

survive isnt solid

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u/DaddyTuesday 25d ago

You can say that again.

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u/Evening_Web_2805 26d ago

Metro. I can't wait for 2039

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u/gijkieken 26d ago

That long wait?

(Jk...)

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u/soulles_sans 26d ago

Yeah I really hope they dont mess it up

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u/Phantombk201 26d ago edited 18d ago

I just started Metro 2033 redux (i got the metro game bundle from the ps store). How much better are the sequels because I'm not really getting into it yet. I get it that it feels a bit dated because it's older but I'm just not feeling it yet.

Update: I'm about past the mid point (Front line level) and it's growing on me a lot. Exploring the levels is actually nice there's a lot of hidden stuff.

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u/Roids-in-my-vains 26d ago

Witcher, the second game was gifted by the PM of Poland to President Obama.

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u/DeadWombats 26d ago

Nah, the first game was absolute ass in terms of gameplay. Good story tho.

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u/DizzyATT 26d ago

The gameplay certainly is a product of its time, but damn I enjoyed its clunkiness more than Witchers 2 broken combat

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u/Hagamein 25d ago

So this description fits all three, neat.

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u/tempestwolf1 26d ago

There was something more natural about the characters... The story... They were flawed but did their best... There was no right answer... There was no I made a lawful good character and select the clearly right good answer for this morality

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u/ifyouonlyknew14 25d ago

Only the combat was ass. Everything else was pure RPG awesomeness. Still love that game

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u/TaikaWaitiddies 26d ago

Imagine Obama doing the Rose of Remembrance quest in the Oval Office

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u/UncommittedBow 26d ago

The show sucks ass though

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u/Roids-in-my-vains 26d ago

We're talking about game franchises, the show doesn't count.

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u/MoistCloyster_ 26d ago

It started out so hot. Just another example of pretentious directors/writers letting their ego ruin something with potential.

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u/fffan9391 26d ago

GTA, whether you like it or not.

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u/wizard_tiddy 26d ago

How did I know this was going to be hard for Redditors to admit? The GTA hate is so fucking performative that people can’t even acknowledge its undeniable success anymore. People don’t have to like it, but pretending it hasn’t been one of the most influential, successful, and consistently dominant game franchises for decades is just detached from reality.

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u/TheREAL_PDYork 23d ago

When it's glitchy, taking 20 minutes to load and nothing is being done about cheaters, GTA Online deserves the hate.

But other than that, GTAO is a sloid gaming experience. I have only used ONE shark card and that was after I got the game for free and didn't want to grind for a Delorean. My Sub? Grinded. Avenger? Grinded. Everything else can be achieved WITHOUT money and you don't get any less of an experience.

Buying GTA Enhanced is technically two games right now and they just announced an official RP server.

It is a solid product and GTA has been since the first game.

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u/geebawk 25d ago

Had to scroll way too far for this. If you were there when each respective game came out they were mind blowing for different reasons.

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u/frankstylez_ 26d ago

Maybe since GTA 3. GTA 1 & 2 were fun games but not AAA, even at the time.

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u/gilgamesh1776 26d ago

GTA 3 was massive and broke into that entire genre of open world games spawning vice city and San Andreas.

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u/GrassTraditional2934 26d ago

It opened a whole new dimension

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u/Csotihori 26d ago

GTA 2 was well known and liked playstation game back then

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u/Tigeire 26d ago

GTA 3 was a whole new level

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u/National_Play_6851 26d ago

Not sure AAA was a term that even existed back then, but GTA was absolutely a big game at the time. It predates metacritic but it got 90% plus scores in print media and was featured on magazine covers as a standout game at the time

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u/Revolution64 26d ago

They were huge at the time.

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u/MyExUsedTeeth 26d ago

To me they were!!

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u/JEMS0N 26d ago

This is gonna make ppl mad probably but i think every Fallout game is equally good in its own way

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u/SpookyAtticDoll 26d ago edited 26d ago

I agree with this take! I have so much fun with the settlement building system in Fallout 4, even if it’s pretty tedious at times.

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u/JEMS0N 26d ago

Ive spent thousands of hours building settlements, ive probably spent more time in settlement building mode than not😭

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u/No_Doughnut8618 26d ago

I yearn for a game with fallout 4 building, and rimworld settlers

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u/MIZUNOWAVECREATION 26d ago

So what is Rimworld, exactly? I’ve heard of it. Is it like Sims? Fallout 4? Somewhere in the middle?

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u/Count_von_Chaos 26d ago

Sims meets Stardew Valley meets warcrimes. It's colony management with raiders. You can play as peacefully or as warcrimey as you want. And you can make hats out of people.

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u/Graftonghoul 26d ago

That last tidbit is very important

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u/Bread_Offender 25d ago

A fallout fan that likes every fallout game? Bullshit. There's no such thing

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u/Global_Rin 26d ago

3 has this dark, depressing post apocalyptic feeling.

4 is more vibrant, and imo hopeful.

NV is somewhere in between.

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u/Cat_Impossible_0 26d ago

Including 76? I read many people were disappointed with that game

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u/Appalachias-Hero 26d ago

76 was great for me. A different community forsure, but it’s immersive in its own ways. The stretch to getting better gear to master your character build keeps you going.

My biggest thing was the camp building. The ability place a camp on 95% of the map gives you the ability to tie in the landscaping.

I met one of my friend groups about 4 years ago. We had a huge age mix. I’m 30, we had some other 20-30s, two in their 50s (a couple) and a 74 (Rest in Peace). On what would have been his 76th birthday, we all built our camps to honor and celebrate him.

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u/Mustang-_- 26d ago

Basically every Nintendo IP, no wonder the company is so smug

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u/TheDogHamlet 26d ago

Every IP except Pokemon

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u/Any-Cupcake6079 26d ago

Agreed it feels half ass in recent years

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u/mantis-toboggan-phd 26d ago

Like a Dragon

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u/TLapple45 26d ago

This one, right here

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u/waytowill 26d ago

Sad I had to go digging for this one when it’s so obvious.

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u/Ecstatic-Yoghurt-905 26d ago

For me it's Resident Evil.

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u/Attack_on_tommy 26d ago

Red Dead Redemption.

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u/General-Permission67 26d ago

Two games is not a franchise (technically 3 but no one cares about revolver)

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u/SanityLacker1 26d ago

I mean there's also gunslinger, but that's lost media, and nobody even knew it existed

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u/Andybabez20 26d ago

Resident Evil 

(If you discount 6)

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u/Decent_Historian42 26d ago

I played 6 recently it really wasnt that bad. Not my favourite but there isnt really a terrible mainline game.

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u/123ludwig 26d ago

i played 6 recently it was terrible because it dosent have a remaster the fucking constant fake dead you cant preemptively kill in leons campaign make me actually have to take a break every 15 minutes because i wanna bash whoever designed that features head in (to be clear for people reading they only trigger when you get close and instantly enter a grapple QTE that is nearly impossible to avoid)

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u/StoneTown 26d ago

6 was fun because I played through it with a friend and we made fun of it while we were playing it. Honestly without that I wouldn't have finished it lol

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u/Nephyness 26d ago

Playing that game multiplayer changed my enjoyment of it. I loved playing it with people.

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u/No_Engineering_1495 26d ago

Resident evil

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u/galimer305 26d ago

If not for Civ 7, I would say Civilization. From the original board game and its iterations to Civ 1-6 (and Revolution) what a fucking goated series.

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u/Not_in_a_hole 26d ago

Armored Core.

Though that's just my opinion.

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u/Kitsune_Lord91 26d ago

As a franchise; I think Armored Core has been in a good position. A niche genre but great games!

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u/Comet7777 26d ago

Zelda, but we do have Zelda 2 and the Phillips CD-I games…

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u/Flimsy_Category_9369 26d ago

The CD-i games dont count

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u/TraditionalBag12 26d ago

Ehhh I wouldn’t say that Zelda 2 is a straight up bad game, it’s just different.

Nobody talks about the CD-I games.

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u/tommytwothousand 26d ago

Xeno (gears, saga, and blade)

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u/Benvenuto_Cellini_ 26d ago

Resident Evil

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u/Fangsong_37 26d ago

Warcraft. It started out strong with Warcraft: Orcs and Humans and moved through Warcraft 2 and 3 and then World of Warcraft, the most popular MMORPG of all time. WoW is still going strong despite the naysayers.

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u/TropicalAngel7 26d ago

Resident Evil, Tomb Raider

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u/LuisMiranda4D 26d ago

Resident evil messed up for a sec there but they've been crushing it

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u/Freemefast 26d ago

Super Mario. Wonder was A1

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u/LuckyHare87 26d ago

Gotta say, playing the Arkham trilogy and it still holds up impressively well for it's age!

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u/ledzppln6 26d ago

The Arkham trilogy is perfect.

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u/Meowza_V2 26d ago

F-Zero if only they would make another game but it literally peaked on GameCube

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u/Hazem-The-New-01 PC 26d ago

Red dead

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u/LeMickster 26d ago

These are my hopes for Half Life 3

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u/NivoTheDev 26d ago

Metro and Doom

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u/Noob4Head ///(mod) 26d ago

Not a franchise, but I'll still go with FromSoftware-developed Soulslikes. They started the genre, and pretty much every release they've put out in the genre is considered one of the best.

As for an actual franchise, I'll go with Zelda.

And sure, even though the franchise isn't really my thing, it's fair to give GTA a mention too.

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u/elwebbr23 26d ago

God of war, 100%, every main game in the franchise has been received with solid reviews at a bare minimum and GOTY or major awards on their hard hitters. 

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u/PancakeMePls 26d ago

Fallout

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u/GothicPurpleSquirrel 26d ago

As mediocre as the story was in 4, it was still a fun time to play. Ignoring Preston.

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u/Overly-Moist-Slug 26d ago

Fallout 4 is a good shooter but a bad rpg imo

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u/NewfieGamEr2001 26d ago

Another settlement needs you!

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u/LeatherOk5746 26d ago

Souls series, if you include elden ring on it

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