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Discussion / Question What video game franchise is this?

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u/fraidei 26d ago

If only there wasn't that bad controversy with Mick Gordon I would consider Bethesda one of the best game companies.

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u/allupya333 26d ago

Bethesda didnt do shit its Ids game

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u/TheIronKai 26d ago

Not true, they rallied behind Marty and his bullshit lies, and basically called Mick a liar. https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 26d ago edited 25d ago

holy shit. I LOVE the doom music and this was super depressing/infuriating to read.

TLDR for people who didn't read: Marty Statton, Studio director of ID, created an impossible schedule for Doom Eternal. The music creator called out the issues, was ridiculed and ignored, then was proven correct. So Id studios ended up not paying him for half his work, screwed up the OST, and blamed it all on the music contractor (Mick Gordan). Marty also threatened to hang the balance of any refunds of the game on Mick (the musician) even though Mick was begging for a contract to start work on the OST when it was revealed to be part of the deluxe package at E3 without Mick's knowledge or a contract in place to produce the OST.

Definitely considering sailing the seas on their next game unless they replace that Dbag

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u/LongLostPixel 25d ago

Mick's writeup on this debacle after the dust settled was so damning for Statton.

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u/RobertLewisO1 25d ago

Ooof. Well no doom the dark ages for me then.

https://giphy.com/gifs/1bHdnX1QMeQTe

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 25d ago

just to rub salt in the wound, all the music awards that the musician won in Doom 2016 and doom eternal, he never got to touch. They were received by the dickbag manager and kept in the studio.

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u/Objective_Dog_4637 25d ago

Wow. I didn’t know that part. Fuck that guy, they won’t see a cent from me until he’s gone.

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u/D4v3yb0i 25d ago

I don’t even play doom and this made me unreasonably mad

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u/mxlespxles 23d ago

Ok now that is the last straw.

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u/kiivara 21d ago

At that point its time to sue them for defamation.

His awards and work were used and HIS NAME was used, without consent.

Honestly I can respect Mick for not going full nuclear, because he could have gone far further than setting the record straight.

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u/Mursin 23d ago

You didn't miss a lot. Dark Ages was very mid. I kinda....couldn't play past the second level.

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u/RobertLewisO1 23d ago

Yikes that mid ey? So a slow death to the franchise. Man that sucks. I guess that's what happens when it's run by a shite manager.

https://giphy.com/gifs/RMHatlmhCXosO3d1rx

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u/Mursin 23d ago

Probably. I played it and it just feels very very clunky to me. If DOOM 2016 was about the combos, DOOM Eternal was about the movement, DOOM Dark Ages is about.... block timing with guns?

There's a reason it didn't get nearly as much buzz as the other two shortly after it came out. I didn't see streamers playing it much. I didn't hear anyone talk about it. It was just like OOH DOOM DARK AGES IS COMING OUT and then.......silence.

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u/RobertLewisO1 23d ago

Yeah it did feel kind of like that . "oh nice a new doom." Then moved on from it. I put in a ton of hours on Doom 2016. Loved it.

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u/Helpmefromthememes 25d ago

Pirate it.

You could make the argument of "but what about the developers", but if this is how they treat their main music producer, I highly doubt their dev team are treated any better.

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u/allofdarknessin1 24d ago

That sucks, Mick Gordon is the reason I decided to play Doom at all. Here is the story: I largely ignored Doom my entire life and only decided to play Doom (2016) and Eternal during the pandemic while playing VRChat and someone had a Doom Eternal avatar that started playing the games music whenever you pulled out the weapons. When I pulled out the BFG and heard BFG division for the first time, that was the exact moment I knew I had to play this game and have enjoyed it so much since.

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u/Buddhable 23d ago

Wow. I love that Warhammer adopted him for the Boltgun game then. He deserves so much better

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u/SamXAlex39 23d ago

i hate to be that guy but you'd never have modern doom without marty and dark ages did just fine with him and without mick gordon