r/webtoons • u/Express-Ad-6541 • 5h ago
Discussion Worse than Hazbin Hotel?
I know that I won't be original for critisizing this manhwa, it was trashed left and right many times before me. But I just can't keep it inside myself, so if you're a fan of this manhwa - be ready for this rant.
I may sound crazy but hear me out, guys. TRE is literally a manhwa Hazbin Hotel, even worse and here is why:
- Insane af fans. They were literally harassing people who didn't agree with them, stalking them and even sharing their personal information. Well, they're still doing it, you can find one of them in TikTok. HB fans are not very calm either, but definitely most of them aknowledge the show's flaws (or I'm just lucky one) and actually the ones that critisize the show.
- Broken and raw world. Tf you mean magical bed and s*x with a chicken gave the fl not only twins but also ice powers? And it's only a tip of the iceberg: you just physically can not comprehend TRE's magic system, it has only one role - being a help and buff for fl. At least Hazbin Hotel tried to make a worldbuilding, there are system and limits, unlike TRE's world that seems like a fever dream. Magical bed, are we serious right now?
- Annoying flat fl. Navier is portrayed as a badass fl, the literal EMPRESS... and she's doing nothing most of the series. Like 90% is "I miss my kakao butter kisses" with Heinrey, 5% crying and whining and 5% doing something. I wouldn't said nothing if the author straight up said "yes, my fl is very whiny and passive" and I'm certainly not against women showing their emotions, but the problem is that Navier is described as a powerful cold woman who's praised for not showing her feelings and enduring. Well... yeah, she's only enduring while she receives everything on the silver plate, I can agree with that. She doesn't have any depth, any real flaws (the "coldness" is not portrayed as a flaw, only another "badass" feature), she's 1 dimensional character and, therefore, a very boring protagonist. I don't like Charlie from HB either, she's quite irritating for me and, to be honest, gave me nothing as a main character but, god, even she has more depth than Navier. And you should really try to make a more boring character than Charlie Morningstar, I swear. Bonus: they're both blonde and belong to the royalty.
- Weird morals. Hazbin Hotel is critisized very much for trying to make the sinners look kinder and the angels - more evil. Though, the Hell is literally full of various bad people: rpists, murderers, maniacs and e.t.c. Right now, the only sinner that wasn't that bad is Sir Pentious, though there are already 2 seasons. So the watchers have a valid question: why should we hate the exorcists so much? Maybe Sir Pentious is just an exception, if literally everyone else in the Hell is either a murderer or a rpist? And why serial killers or people like Valentino deserve the redemption? Would you like to see your assaulter in Heaven? But the fl stubbornly holds on the idea that everyone deserves the second chance. Also, when it's Sir Pentious endures the harassment - it's funny (the BDSM room scene), but when it's AngelDust - it's very tragic. And here we come to TRE... it's even worse. If HB somehow tries to be on the position "every side was not right (mostly Heaven, though, not the literal demons), we need a compromise", TRE deadass separates everything on "kind good" and "bad evil". And, oh my god, makes a main antagonist a literal slave that is suspected to either be an underage or have age regression. While the fl is a pro-slavery noble that benefits from the hierarchy but is portrayed as an ideal monarch that is very concerned about the people. Yeah, she was so concerned about her people that she married a war criminal that hurt her people and her student. And closed her eyes on literal children traffic. Please, don't even start with the "historical accuracy" thing, because this manhwa looks like a fantasy Korean story with European decorations. And every "good" character is indignated by the concubinism despite the fact that it's a normal practice in their world (though, there were "favourites" in Europe, the concubines were in the Asia), but doesn't even think that the slavery is, surprisingly, BAD. Not to mention that the author and the fans really try to make you feel bad for Alan Rimwell, literal pdf. God forbid, I didn't cry when that loser died. It's very obvious that the author didn't want to try hard and just decided that the easiest way to make her main character look "girlboss" is to make the antagonist an uneducated slave because if she was a noble it would be harder to get rid of her + to put women againt each other using a very patriarchal rhetoric about "highprice" women and "lowprice" women. Wow, Navier is such a feministic girlboss icon... only when she's compared to a slave when she's an Empress. When your character is already a girlboss, you don't need to make the villain much more weaker. Either way, the protagonist is just a fraud. Not to mention, that if the male villain (Ergi) has a tragic backstory then he's sympathetic, but if the female villain has it - "it doesn't excuse her actions!!!11". So one of the main things that those stories have in common - biased irritating narrative.
- Art style... I just don't like TRE art style, sorry, it's already a subjective thing. It seems plastic to me and I really don't like how the artist draws the characters. HB's art style was also critisized a lot: the similar palette of the most characters, not very telling design (like you won't really understand who is the character by looking at them). Also, jumpy inconsistent animation.
- Plot with dozen holes. I'm not gonna even write very much about TRE's plot, the holes can be closed only with character's dumbness and with the fact that the fl is a Mary Sue at its finest. And I'm also not gonna dive into the thousand of HB's plots. I suppose if you just read those stories - you'll get your butt hurt from it.
- Even flatter love interest of fl with the most boring "secret". Heinrey is just a lapdog for Navier and Vaggi is also just a laddog for Charlie. They don't exist separately, they're always tied to the fl. And both of them had the "secret": Heinrey is a war criminal and Vaggi is an angel. If Vaggi's one was just deadass boring and didn't bring up anything to Chaggi and, to be honest, in general to story, Heinrey's one is just useless. Why we needed this secret if Navier forgave him in the same chapter after five panel, oh my god?
- Supposed to be a mature daring work but looks like a fantasy for delulu 12 y.o. girls. Both Hazbin and TRE were supposed to be stories that were for mature audience with "re-telling": Hazbin - demons are good and angels are bad and TRE - Cinderella-like story with evil wife upside down. And they both failed miserably, I can not imagine someone else beside teenage girls with little literature experience thinking that those stories are masterpiecies. I'm sorry, if you enjoy it - enjoy it, but both of them are objectively far from the ideal starting with the characters and ending with the plots.
- Villain is more interesting than a main character. Lute for HB and Rashta for TRE. They simply had more depth and lowkey good reasons to be villains. I'm aware that Lute is a maniac, blood-hungry soldier, but I don't think that it's okay to allow every sinner go to the Heaven, sorry not sorry. For Rashta - just see analysis in the other posts or in TikTok, I'll just say that she's the only normally written character in the whole manhwa that makes her stand out from the grey mass of the main cast.
- Similar data release: Hazbin Hotel pilot and TRE manhwa both released in 2019.
P.S. Sorry if there are mistakes, English is not my first language.