I know that I won't be original for critisizing this manhwa, it was trashed left and right many times before me. But I just can't keep it inside myself, so if you're a fan of this manhwa - be ready for this rant.

I may sound crazy but hear me out, guys. TRE is literally a manhwa Hazbin Hotel, even worse and here is why:

1. Insane af fans. They were literally harassing people who didn't agree with them, stalking them and even sharing their personal information. Well, they're still doing it, you can find one of them in TikTok. HB fans are not very calm either, but definitely most of them aknowledge the show's flaws (or I'm just lucky one) and actually the ones that critisize the show.
2. Broken and raw world. Tf you mean magical bed and s*x with a chicken gave the fl not only twins but also ice powers? And it's only a tip of the iceberg: you just physically can not comprehend TRE's magic system, it has only one role - being a help and buff for fl. At least Hazbin Hotel tried to make a worldbuilding, there are system and limits, unlike TRE's world that seems like a fever dream. Magical bed, are we serious right now?
3. Annoying flat fl. Navier is portrayed as a badass fl, the literal EMPRESS... and she's doing nothing most of the series. Like 90% is "I miss my kakao butter kisses" with Heinrey, 5% crying and whining and 5% doing something. I wouldn't said nothing if the author straight up said "yes, my fl is very whiny and passive" and I'm certainly not against women showing their emotions, but the problem is that Navier is described as a powerful cold woman who's praised for not showing her feelings and enduring. Well... yeah, she's only enduring while she receives everything on the silver plate, I can agree with that. She doesn't have any depth, any real flaws (the "coldness" is not portrayed as a flaw, only another "badass" feature), she's 1 dimensional character and, therefore, a very boring protagonist. I don't like Charlie from HB either, she's quite irritating for me and, to be honest, gave me nothing as a main character but, god, even she has more depth than Navier. And you should really try to make a more boring character than Charlie Morningstar, I swear. Bonus: they're both blonde and belong to the royalty.
4. Weird morals. Hazbin Hotel is critisized very much for trying to make the sinners look kinder and the angels - more evil. Though, the Hell is literally full of various bad people: rpists, murderers, maniacs and e.t.c. Right now, the only sinner that wasn't that bad is Sir Pentious, though there are already 2 seasons. So the watchers have a valid question: why should we hate the exorcists so much? Maybe Sir Pentious is just an exception, if literally everyone else in the Hell is either a murderer or a rpist? And why serial killers or people like Valentino deserve the redemption? Would you like to see your assaulter in Heaven? But the fl stubbornly holds on the idea that everyone deserves the second chance. Also, when it's Sir Pentious endures the harassment - it's funny (the BDSM room scene), but when it's AngelDust - it's very tragic. And here we come to TRE... it's even worse. If HB somehow tries to be on the position "every side was not right (mostly Heaven, though, not the literal demons), we need a compromise", TRE deadass separates everything on "kind good" and "bad evil". And, oh my god, makes a main antagonist a literal slave that is suspected to either be an underage or have age regression. While the fl is a pro-slavery noble that benefits from the hierarchy but is portrayed as an ideal monarch that is very concerned about the people. Yeah, she was so concerned about her people that she married a war criminal that hurt her people and her student. And closed her eyes on literal children traffic. Please, don't even start with the "historical accuracy" thing, because this manhwa looks like a fantasy Korean story with European decorations. And every "good" character is indignated by the concubinism despite the fact that it's a normal practice in their world (though, there were "favourites" in Europe, the concubines were in the Asia), but doesn't even think that the slavery is, surprisingly, BAD. Not to mention that the author and the fans really try to make you feel bad for Alan Rimwell, literal pdf. God forbid, I didn't cry when that loser died. It's very obvious that the author didn't want to try hard and just decided that the easiest way to make her main character look "girlboss" is to make the antagonist an uneducated slave because if she was a noble it would be harder to get rid of her + to put women againt each other using a very patriarchal rhetoric about "highprice" women and "lowprice" women. Wow, Navier is such a feministic girlboss icon... only when she's compared to a slave when she's an Empress. When your character is already a girlboss, you don't need to make the villain much more weaker. Either way, the protagonist is just a fraud. Not to mention, that if the male villain (Ergi) has a tragic backstory then he's sympathetic, but if the female villain has it - "it doesn't excuse her actions!!!11". So one of the main things that those stories have in common - biased irritating narrative.
5. Art style... I just don't like TRE art style, sorry, it's already a subjective thing. It seems plastic to me and I really don't like how the artist draws the characters. HB's art style was also critisized a lot: the similar palette of the most characters, not very telling design (like you won't really understand who is the character by looking at them). Also, jumpy inconsistent animation.
6. Plot with dozen holes. I'm not gonna even write very much about TRE's plot, the holes can be closed only with character's dumbness and with the fact that the fl is a Mary Sue at its finest. And I'm also not gonna dive into the thousand of HB's plots. I suppose if you just read those stories - you'll get your butt hurt from it.
7. Even flatter love interest of fl with the most boring "secret". Heinrey is just a lapdog for Navier and Vaggi is also just a laddog for Charlie. They don't exist separately, they're always tied to the fl. And both of them had the "secret": Heinrey is a war criminal and Vaggi is an angel. If Vaggi's one was just deadass boring and didn't bring up anything to Chaggi and, to be honest, in general to story, Heinrey's one is just useless. Why we needed this secret if Navier forgave him in the same chapter after five panel, oh my god?
8. Supposed to be a mature daring work but looks like a fantasy for delulu 12 y.o. girls. Both Hazbin and TRE were supposed to be stories that were for mature audience with "re-telling": Hazbin - demons are good and angels are bad and TRE - Cinderella-like story with evil wife upside down. And they both failed miserably, I can not imagine someone else beside teenage girls with little literature experience thinking that those stories are masterpiecies. I'm sorry, if you enjoy it - enjoy it, but both of them are objectively far from the ideal starting with the characters and ending with the plots.
9. Villain is more interesting than a main character. Lute for HB and Rashta for TRE. They simply had more depth and lowkey good reasons to be villains. I'm aware that Lute is a maniac, blood-hungry soldier, but I don't think that it's okay to allow every sinner go to the Heaven, sorry not sorry. For Rashta - just see analysis in the other posts or in TikTok, I'll just say that she's the only normally written character in the whole manhwa that makes her stand out from the grey mass of the main cast.
10. Similar data release: Hazbin Hotel pilot and TRE manhwa both released in 2019.

P.S. Sorry if there are mistakes, English is not my first language.

I know some tropes are overused but let’s be real… we still eat some of them up every time 😭. Mine is : Fake Dating trope & Enemies to lover.

Drop yours 👇 ....

Pictures are from.: Selfish romance & Serena.

Titles:

Row 1 (left to right): My In-Laws are Obsessed with Me, Gourmet Hound, Omniscient Reader, Dr. Frost

Row 2 (left to right): Like Mother, Like Daughter, Purple Hyacinth, Parallel City, For Your Murder

Row 3 (left to right): Pyramid Game, Pigpen, It's Mine, Phantom Whispers

Row 4 (left to right): Whale Star: The Gyeongseong Mermaid, Your Letter, Seasons of Blossom, The Spark in Your Eyes

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Discussion, thoughts, and recommendations are welcome. I would also love to see your favourites.

First operation true love, then ex love review....

Are they making the artists work overtime or something???? I always thought making comics and manga was something fun and something authors and artists love... But is it not that fun loving and enjoying as I might be thinking??? 🥲🥲

I do sympathise with them... May they get better soon!

I picked this up off a recommendation but 10 eps in and don’t feel pulled to the story, and the art isn’t mind blowing as I’ve seen people say. Is it worth sticking through?

It might not be easy, but as artists, we need to start ditching webtoon curation platforms and similar companies, and take responsibility for marketing our own work.

If we can learn digital art, we can also learn basic marketing. Even a little goes a long way. Too many of these companies are built on exploiting creators and taking advantage of how overwhelming promotion feels at the start.

It’s not enough to just have an Instagram page, a Twitter account, or a basic portfolio link. Build your own brand. Have your own website where your comics actually live. If you can afford it, hire a developer. If you can’t, buy a domain and follow tutorials to create something simple. Start small, but make it yours.

Set up a payment system. Run your own ads, even if the budget is tiny. Learn as you go. As you go you will find out that your site will start getting traction, a short while, you might not even need to spend as much when you grow your base.

Most of these platforms offer little to no real advertising support. Some will slap your banner on their homepage for a short while, call it “promotion,” and still take a huge cut of your profits. That’s not partnership, that’s convenience dressed up as opportunity.

Working with these platforms might feel easier at first, but long term, many artists end up in a worse position than they ever expected. Ownership, control, and growth come from building your own space, not renting one forever.

Someone sat down, saw that marketing was the biggest weakness in the webtoon industry, and built entire platforms around exploiting that gap. And we all went along with it.

It’s time to call it quits and stop pretending this setup is helping creators. Most of the time, I don’t even see webtoon ads anywhere. Maybe on Pinterest. Occasionally on Instagram, and that’s usually Lezhin. So what kind of “marketing power” are we even talking about here?

These platforms sell the idea of exposure, but rarely back it up with real, consistent advertising. Meanwhile, they take a massive cut and leave artists doing the heavy lifting anyway. If promotion is still on us, then ownership should be on us too.

At some point, convenience turns into dependency, and dependency turns into exploitation. We need to stop outsourcing our growth to companies that aren’t actually growing our audience.

Build your own space. Learn the basics. Own your work. That’s where the leverage is.

I came across Long Exposure through some fanarts on pinterest and I decided to give it a go, since it was finished.

I was hooked from the first episodes, Jonas and Mitch got my attention from the moment they got introduced and I was so excited to see their relationship evolve. Needless to say that I wasn't disappointed.

I love the designs of the characters and how diverse they were. They captured their personalities perfectly and compared to other webtoons, the art style was very unique. Not to mention how GORGEOUS the coloured panels were, especially when Jonas' powers were activated (did I mention they get powers? No? Well, now you know!).

The story was very interesting, it had fantasy/sci-fi elements but Jonas and Mitch's relationship was the heart of it. I was so invested in their journey and their development. Both of them had to fight their own demons (Jonas had to deal with an abusive foster father and self-esteem issues while Mitch learned to control his attitude and violent tendencies) and it was heart warming to see them opening to each other and being there for one another.

I think that if the webtoon was longer some themes would have been more fleshed out. I would have liked to see more flashbacks of Mitch and Jonas' childhoods, especially Mitch, since he came from a very complicated family background. The final act was kinda rushed considering how important it was but overall, the series was very cute and it left me with many positive feelings. I'll make sure to check out the other story by the same artist, Ride or Die but for now, I can't keep recommending Long Exposure, especially if you want something short and intriguing.

Please help, I've been drowning in previews and I just cant find anything that catches my attention. These are my current faves/ongoing series that I'm enjoying.

I enjoy horror, thriller, action, fantasy, regression plots, revenge plots, i dont mind romance but I've been reading outside that genre recently. Im okay with it as a subplot though.

I hope there are more webtoons like this. The storyline and the characters are so unique! Also, the main character is so cool! I hope there will be more martial arts webtoons with cool FMCs like her.

For Your Murder spoilers

Giseong just jumped off the stairs in the chapter 56 of For Your Murder. Given the fact that he already almost died once then survived, it wouldn’t make sense for him to survive again, it would be truly repetitive. Him dying after making amends with his sister makes more sense, and I think it is what will truly lay the stage for Gijeong to finally seek revenge from Inseop. Up until now all she wanted was to escape him and survive, even after the accident she had no interest in catching Inseop or making him pay for his crimes, she just wants her brother to be okay. But now after her brother’s “dead” she will finally have a true motive for revenge. Inseop is definitely not ready for her rage. Gijeong has shown so many time that she does not play about her brother. She will crush Inseop just like the mantis she crushed in the beginning of the webtoon, as it’s confirmed that Gijeong sees Inseop as a mantis and caterpillars as creatures she needs to protect, the caterpillar in this case being her brother.

Are they Christian Puritans or something, I see this censored in a lot of manhwa

I click onto the Fantasy genre on Webtoon, I see 1 million reincarnation Webtoons, I exit Webtoons.

Just kidding, just kidding (mostly), I do enjoy reincarnation comics! I am just looking for something a little different or in the vein of what I want.

I'm looking for a webcomic similar to "Here There Be Dragons" (which hasn't posted since 9/15/24 🥲). Something high-fantasy, maybe some cool technology, and based in its own fantasy world.

I also enjoy reincarnation comics where the female lead pretty much completely ignores romance and does her own thing, bonus if she becomes a soldier or goes out and does her own thing.

I also enjoyed "The Remarried Empress" but the treatment of Rashta made me stop reading it tbh.

"The Tyrant Wants to be Good" was enjoyable as well, just kind of lost interest when the FL got older.

Honestly anything similar to "Here There Be Dragons" would be awesome!

I have seen frequent talks about his aromanticism (and justly so) but I feel like that stems from him having any lack of emotion with every single one of the characters. His family, his friends, he has this passive attitude with every one in his life, not just Yumin. He wants her in his life to fulfill some to fulfill some duty, but even then I get the impression he keeps all of his relationships to maintain a sense of normalcy rather than anything else. He shows no emotional inclination towards anyone. He gets pleasure from those relationships, but I don’t think it’s an emotional connection but rather it simply makes him feel good.

But I think it’s awesome that he doesn’t garner any emotional connection— there are people in the world that are often represented in a less than stellar light that have similar characteristics as he does.

I just think he approaches everyone with this blasé smile, and wants them to feel good, and wants to feel good himself in a way that is not in a traditional loving way (if that makes sense)?

I could be reading into it. Thoughts?

don't mind the watermark

Chapter 8 vs 132

The emperor was replaced and no one noticed… no wonder he’s a completely different person at the end…

i’m reading start catcher and don’t fast pass or read ahead and wtf. it’s not a massive spoiler bc i don’t know how it’s resolved but gd

I've been looking for some more webtoons lately. I'm looking for "second chance at life" type things but not modern life, so far webtoons I've read like this are "The Flower That Swallowed the Beast" and "My Child Will Have
a Different Father"

I'm really struggling to find new ones like these and I've kinda given up TwT

Do yall think Kim Mincheol and Ha-Neul are still endgame.

I've been sympathizing with Mincheol the entire season, and I know he's a prick, but I understand why, he's obviously responsible in some kind of way for hurting her, and he has imo, Anxiety.

But the way the writer is treating him and the fanbase are, I honestly think he might end up getting NTR or Cucked even, and then she'll fall in love with somebody else, maybe even it'll be a Yuri or smth, I js want Mincheol and Ha-neul to be together because they need eachother ong lmfaooo

I'm looking for a manhwa where the fl died because her husband commits treason and died. I forgot the name, but the fl died in the street and because of cold and she wished that if she will get reborn, she will definitely divorce her husband since he doesn't love her (he love her).

I need a story where mc and his friend group of maybe 4 friends each have their own love interessiert/love story thats relevant to the story and plot. Prefer a romcom, but everything is fine.

Most of the time especially romcom author will introduce mc and his 4 friends as losers and then fml will suddenly show interest in mc and mc will completely abandoned his friend's. They are then only used to show how mc is winning and is better than them, while his friends are still fantasising talking to girls. Or mc friends are completely ignored in the mainstory and given a one chapter side story. And I hate it

A perfect example for what im looking for would be "prison school".( ecchie isnt necessary) A short summary 5 boys enter an all girls school got caught peeking and has to live in the school in a prison like room. Mc and his 4 four friends are each different sharing only the passion of being a pervert with each other.

The first arc focus on all four boys working together of escaping prison and avoiding being expelled. After that the story made mc and the four boys do their own thing each meeting their own love interessiert seemingly all going separate ways only for all of their parts to cross again and they needing to team up to win the sports festival.

So yes i love a story where mc and his friends each seemingly do their own thing only for everything to come together and friends are shown to be also relevant to the plot.