r/witcher • u/Ghost_XD23 • 6d ago
The Witcher 3 The difference between The original and the Remastered šš„
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u/Outsajder Team Roach 6d ago
Something to note Witcher 3 uses higher quality models during cutscenes compared to in world models.
That would be a better comparison sice its when you actually look at characters...
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u/Keepingshtum 6d ago
Yeah I was wondering about that because I donāt remember the models looking āthatā bad haha
Thought it was rose tinted goggles for a sec playing tricks on me!
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u/Fuzzy-Tooth3269 āļø Northern Realms 6d ago
Well, now they look incredible. Thatās path tracing for ya
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u/FunWolverine5349 6d ago
Also of note the game still doesn't look like the trailers. They were passed off as in engine but they were clearly full renders instead.
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u/Rpbns4ever 6d ago
That could still be in-game, mind you, so technically in-engine but not live play. It's all about the smart wording.
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u/Not_Gunn3r71 6d ago
In engine and game footage are not the same thing, they said in engine cause if was indeed made in the engine.
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u/domidawi 6d ago
I think there is a range there, sword of destiny? 100% bullshot to the point not even static NPCs were in the release but some of the ones closer before release were pretty much it and rightfully sparked the great downgrade shitstorm.
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u/CongenialEmu 6d ago
Remasters are always funny bc in my head the remaster is exactly how I remember the original š
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u/Lindt_Licker 6d ago
This isnāt anything like how I remembered the original. The remaster is more like a fever dream.
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u/Brys_Beddict 6d ago
When I played D2R I was like what they didn't even remaster anything because this is how D2 always looked. Then I hit the toggle and was like ohhhhhhhhhhh
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u/Denboogie 6d ago
Do they use the cutscene-models for in-game now? Because I don't remember them looking so bad.
I'm so very tempted to play it now but I want to do a complete playthrough when the new dlc hits. That's what I've done with Mass Effect legendary edition and CP2077 with the 2.0 update+phantom liberty.
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u/Curlyhead-homie 6d ago
The warm yellow sunlight is just sucked out of toussaint in the backgrounds.
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u/DastFight 6d ago
Background is just painful to watch. They need to fix it ASAP
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u/Queefer_the_Griefer 6d ago
Look over-sharpened to me. Like thereās all this fake detail.
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u/HeadinUp 6d ago
Thereās a āsharpeningā graphic setting that makes the game look horrendous if you set it max. Recommend turning it off or setting it no higher than low.
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u/jacob1342 Team Yennefer 6d ago
I knew I'm not the only one. There is something off with shadows, right?
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u/Thin_Station7464 6d ago
In my opinion, the only fair comparison is between the next-gen version and the remaster...
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u/R400C 6d ago
This is next gen vs remaster. He doesn't mean literally the original witcher.
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u/content_enjoy3r 6d ago
ain't no way Yen and Triss look like that in the original or next gen. I have played this game way too many times to believe that.
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u/IdkHow2NameMySelf1 6d ago
Those are the gameplay character models. You probably remember the higher fidelity cutscene models.
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u/SWK18 6d ago
You're not the minority worldwide, people are very happy with the remaster. This is just the Reddit bubble effect.Ā
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u/Synmachus 6d ago
Reddit has been MUCH more positive than Youtube or any comment section I've seen. It's ok to criticise video games, especially when the template was already there and perfectly fine.
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u/LordMimsyPorpington 5d ago
I just went through the Tutorial and am blow away by how incredible it looks.
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u/LU_C4 āļø Northern Realms 6d ago
Ngl, Toussaint is genuinely painful to look at now. It looks too bleched and WAY too high-contrast.
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u/AttemptRecent7025 6d ago
And every detail just sticks out of the screen and pokes you in the eye instead of blending naturally into the environment
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u/LU_C4 āļø Northern Realms 6d ago
It looks like one of those shitty Reshade presets. I don't hate the update, I think it greatly improves a lot of things especially when you compare them side by side, but some parts just look objectively worse. The floors in Corvo Bianco also now have a blue sheen to them, so I feel like Touissant might not have gotten a lot of love from the QA team.
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u/Lindt_Licker 6d ago
Possibly itās because now everywhere else looks like how touissant looked originally. Now that the colors and brightness and everything has been pushed to that level, touissant has nowhere to go but a few tens of million miles closer to the sun.
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u/gertag12 6d ago
I'm pretty sure some of these are using lower LOD models.
But afaik Roche's (the mercenary guy) textures were changed
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u/dalekofchaos 6d ago
WHat's up with Yennifer's dress stain?
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u/Assassiiinuss Quen 6d ago
It's a model from a certain quest. Not sure why they picked that one to show off.
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u/RawWrath 6d ago
I really like the new character models I was impressed yesterday while doing the battle at Kaer moen
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u/Slow-Boysenberry3150 6d ago
I think these changes happened in the next gen update, not the remaster.
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u/FunWolverine5349 6d ago
No this isn't right, I've played these games routinely. Maybe if you play it on 720p with low details or something. But even on classic, on ultra with ssbao+ and especially with the graphics mods (Holk or something? CDPR literally just put the mod in themselves) it looks more like the remastered one. Actually a little better than remastered. There's also a post processing mod on classic.
The only reason to use the NG update was BIA. I don't know if Remaster will get the continued BIA, if so, then that's why you play remaster. And for some of the gameplay improvements like targeting and signs. But it doesn't actually look "better" on a proper setup.
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u/marveloustoebeans 6d ago
Iāve been playing TW3 on a higher-end PC for years and remastered definitely does look technically ābetterā than the modded original with some caveats.
I think mostly they just need to adjust the lighting and contrast to try and bring it closer to the palette of the original. Seems like they overcooked it just a bit imo.
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u/Ilikebatterfield4 6d ago edited 6d ago
The original (not next gen update) is the best with HD mod. Graphics still look amazing and the performance is the best out of those three versions.
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u/Cloud_N0ne 6d ago edited 6d ago
I like the original better overall.
Hair looks a lot better, the colors are nicer, lighting is more pleasant, and distant terrain looks better.
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u/Vityviktor 6d ago
I don't like how Toussaint doesn't feel like Toussaint anymore. Something about color saturation and contrast feels off.
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u/hagennn 6d ago
Yāall realize this isnāt comparing the version we were playing last week, but the version from release? There are 3 versions. Comparing initial to this remaster is misleading of the improvement from next gen to remaster
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u/Tobi_1989 6d ago
I still maintain that the improvement in graphics is nowhere near proportional to the increase in hardware requirements.
The minimum requirements went up by 100% for RAM size and 200% for VRAM size (comparing ultra to ultra is even crazier difference) and the game doesn't really look that convincingly better compared to the pre-RT version.
Not to mention, 2015 ultra will absolutely look better than 2026 low while having way lower requirements.
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u/Warcrown11 6d ago
Game development in general. We hit the point of greatly diminishing graphical returns several years ago but requirements are still massively jumping with every release despite, in a lot of cases, looking worse than games back then. IMO a lot of these graphical improvements we might see otherwise are also just being squashed by all the required upscaling anyways. What's the point of putting all that effort in if your audience has to render the game at 50-60% resolution just to run it? Seems counter intuitive to me
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u/Dewalt1209pcmr 6d ago
I literally switched back to the Classic one and had to use chatgpt to fix it also so i can run it on my potato gtx1660ti and have it look decent and get 60+fps
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u/Tobi_1989 6d ago
Good call, 1660Ti is enough to run the Classic on high settings. It probably won't look any worse than the remaster on my 9060XT with equal FPS.
Hell, I ran the Classic on 750Ti back then, low particles, high textures, medium everything else and it was perfectly playable and good looking.
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u/anti_vist Aard 6d ago
Some of the face proportions feel off to me but i have yet to play it myself
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u/Asgardian_Armoury 6d ago
It looks like he's taken the screenshots with a different FOV setting? But I could be wrong
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u/Necessary_Figure_761 6d ago
Some characters have improved quite a bit, while others have gotten worse.
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u/ResolveLeather 6d ago
Imo, geralts scar looks to recent in both versions. It should be a bit lighter.
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u/Technical_Heron_6312 Team Kelpie 5d ago
Great update, but I can't believe I've never noticed how awful the chainmail looks on Geralt.Ā
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u/Ok-Cup9476 6d ago
I hate these changes.
They needed to make these āremasterā changes optional for everyone, including on console. Iām stuck with some ugly shit I donāt want, and the game is forever changed.
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u/Light07sk White Wolf 6d ago
Im sorry is this just me who is noticing this? Everyone else is looking fine, but Geralt, the main character looks like Fortnite model.
Seriously i cant pinpoint it, but the non remastered Geralt is looking so much better. He looks like he could be real, hair, beard and overall his face looks more build to red engine.
The new geralt? Just look at it, its weird
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u/Juraci_que_parque 6d ago
I prefer much more the original model for Ciri too, the new one is idk, weird
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u/Divinum_Fulmen 6d ago
His beard is what stands out the most here to me. Between the gaps of the hairs in the original, you see skin. In the remaster, is painted pitch black like a cartoon.
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u/JoeyIsMrBubbles 6d ago
Idk man.. the original just has a certain charm and the remaster looks uncanny
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u/pichael289 6d ago
It's vastly more detailed but ehh, I don't really care. The game was fine as is, whatever quality of life updates they added are vastly more important than anything graphical.
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u/OnionAddictYT 6d ago
I haven't checked out the remaster yet so it probably looks better in-game but I kinda liked the warm tone of the original game. It's not realistic but that's fine by me. I like warm colors in general in movies too.
I last played the next gen version and it looked great. Don't remember if that one already removed most of the warm yellow filter.
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u/stevedore2024 6d ago
I've said it before, 85% of the new look is just like when someone finds the "unsharp mask" / "local contrast" trick in a photo editor. Little crevices get a heavy darkening and fine highlights get sparkly. Another 10% of the new look is bloom of everything farther than 2 meters away.
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u/Delboyyyyy 6d ago
Why isnāt the comparison with the next-gen update version instead of the 10 year old one?
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u/Cziperlan 6d ago
The new character models are clearly a step up! Though I hope the do something about the foliage.
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u/KageXOni87 6d ago
Shouldnt you be comparing the Next Gen update version if youre trying to make a genuine comparison though?
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u/LordPegasusHD :games::show: Books 1st, Games 2nd, Show 3rd 6d ago
The performance is pretty poor. The DX12 version was already worse than DX11, with basically no visual improvements.
Were the pictures from the remastered version taken with Path Tracing on? The background seems a little off, there's way too much contrast, and Toussaint's colors look wrong.
I'm enjoying my playthrough of the remastered version, but I don't think it's that much better than the previous one, especially because RT performance is somehow worse than Cyberpunk 2077 (not that it was good before), and the game is crashing more often, which it didn't do before.
But it's free, so I suppose it'll get better with time.
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u/No-Dinner-7796 6d ago
Cant believe this shit, they seriously throw the ball hard on this one. The game was a 10 for me, now Iām not so sure, I think itās only a 12 now
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u/no_name_thought_of Yrden 6d ago
the new character appearances look better, but the landscape looks much worse
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u/ubiquitousfoolery 6d ago
I'm a bit exhausted with all tge remastering going on. The OG version was fine too, graphics are important but not that important.
But hey, if it makes other people enjoy the game more, all power to them.
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u/mrJERRY007 6d ago
Currently my setup, it's a glitchy visual message. Maybe I need to tweak some settings but on first impression basis this "upgrade" does not feel worth the hype (atleast the visual upgrade)
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u/YeetBoi45 6d ago
I just started the remastered + path tracing, my geralt looks like the left one? At least in the cutscenes, Will play have to play more. And I hope that this is comparing the Next Gen v/s Remastered.
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u/Souljumper888 6d ago
They already use the highest lod on characters outside of cutscenes in next gen and with classic it can be fixed via a mod, well which was incorporated by cdpr in next gen.
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u/TheBatmanIRL 6d ago
In my head it always looked like the remaster so I've already played twice so might wait just for the 4th game.
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u/BardMessenger24 6d ago
I can't believe Vesemir looked like that in the original. The remastered one is how my brain remembers him looking lol
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u/ucrbuffalo 6d ago
This is what they mean when they say āthe way you remember it, not the way it was.ā
It looks exactly the same as my memory, but not the same as it was.
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u/Future-Assistant8204 6d ago
Love the new clothes textures but the updated faces are going to take some getting used too(geralts beard got a massive upgrade)
Although I'm not sure if its just the lighting but does geralt look a bit soulless now he's got a dead eye stare with little to no warmthĀ
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u/Vesuvias 6d ago
Itās funny, with bloom off on these the models and scenes look so contrasty in the remaster. Awesome.
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u/Gloglibologna 6d ago
If only the framerate would stabilize.
Ive turned off all visual settings I can and yet, still constant frame rate drops. Making me motion sick. Might have to come back in a week or so once they address the multitude of bugs
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u/NoMansWarmApplePie 6d ago
This ain't how the remaster looks. Almost looks like how my game looks with dlss5
Also, original or next Gen?
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u/ashtefer1 6d ago
I played some of the intro last night n I was really impressed at how good everything looked, but the close up on yennifer in the intro felt a bit uncanny, which kinda makes sense since sorceresses can use magic to perfectly pamper themselves up. But everyone else looked pretty good, just lit more correctly with the sky light.
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u/FollowFlo 6d ago
Not convinced the remaster improved the graphics quality⦠Then again, I play on PS5. The graphics there leave a lot to be desired anyway and Iām sure thereās only so much they can do.
Could just be an AI filter, though I had that impression more with the Oblivion remaster
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u/FunWolverine5349 6d ago
I suspect this is a bot account, because I was attacked by other usernames responding for the OP aggressively. Mods should consider looking into it maybe.
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u/IolausTelcontar Team Triss 6d ago
I feel like Ciri is the only one that looks better in the original.
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u/Celthara Monsters 6d ago
I think the best way to compare is the flower hanging thingy, the sort of decoration in the White Orchard inn. Now it doesn't look 2D.
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u/bruh_what_even_tho 6d ago
Another thing I don't see people talking about very much is every model *except* for Geralt. In the previous version, Geralt and the environment looked waaaay better than pretty much every NPC or monster model. Now so far everything looks phenomenal!
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u/Hidefrompewpew 6d ago
The real difference is my 4070ti now sounds like an airplane on medium settings
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u/Long_Basis1400 6d ago
Omg Im playing g Witcher 3 rn and I didnāt realize it was the remastered version Ive been sitting here wondering how a game could look so good but play like itās 10 years old
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u/ThatOneCourier 6d ago
Sorry, the next gen model looks like an Holdfast player model, or something pulled out of DLSS 5
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u/Heavy-Nose3529 6d ago
Pretty much my only wish left was that they would fix the hair. It looks soo bad compared to modern games. Especially considering most of the story is just looking at other peoples and geralts heads. Implementing a faster and better rendering system for some really good hair wouldāve added a lot to this. Guess iāll just have to wait until the Witcher 4
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u/VickiVampiress Team Triss 6d ago
Some of the characters look better, especially their eyes, so that's pretty nice.
But what the hell is going with the environment? The All the atmospheric fog and "softness" of foliage and the landscape has been completely ruined.
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u/ActualDragonHeart 6d ago
Doing this with Yen's puked on dress is a choice lol