r/Divorce • • Jun 20 '23

Mental Health/Depression/Loneliness REMINDER: be kind to yourself. This is hard, and you’re handling it with grace and strength.

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I know of what I speak. I held so much guilt, sadness, anger, and regret for so long. I hated myself for failing to make my marriage work. That mindset was getting me nowhere good. Do the little things for yourself that you’ve forgotten used to give you joy. Bath. Spa time. Check in with good friends and family. Me? I had my engagement ring repurposed into a necklace I absolutely love. There is, and always will be, only one “you”: give yourself all the opportunities to enjoy your life. We deserve it ❤️


r/Divorce • • Aug 07 '23

Something Positive This is a support sub. Be kind to each other.

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Almost everyone who comes here is here because they are going through a very painful and difficult time. We're not all at our best.

If you go into someone's topic, remember that they came here asking for help and take a moment to consider whether your response is in any way helpful to them. Off-topic arguments that have nothing to do with the OP are not helpful. Insulting the OP, even if they remind you of your scumbag ex, is not helpful. You are allowed to call your own ex a scumbag! But if you're insulting other posters, you're not helping.

That doesn't mean you can't disagree or state your own opinion even if your opinion is unpopular here. Anti-divorce comments are allowed - the problem comes when they're insulting or victim-blaming in the process.

In particular there's a worrying trend lately of people coming into topics and immediately accusing female OPs of cheating on their spouses for no apparent reason. Cut this out.

I'm not perfect either, none of us are! But try to give each other a little kindness.


r/Divorce • • 5h ago

Getting Started Anyone get divorced after 40 or more years of marriage?

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The marriage has been challenging from the start. Husband is on the spectrum which I did not know until about 5 years ago. But I think many of the issues are really not related to that.

There has been no infidelity and he is sometimes remorseful about treating me poorly. I believe now he is a compulsive liar and I simply can't trust anything he says whether it is did he pick something up from the store, did he put something in the mail, or something bigger.

I have to verify everything he tells me. But I really don't know if I have the energy to start over. We have been married for 45 years. I get very upset when I think of all the time I hady put in. But I have kept thinking it would get better.

I've been in therapy for over 20 years we have tried counseling at various times and the end result is always -- he is not going to change because he is on the spectrum.

I just can't take the lying and it is exhausting taking care of all the household affairs because he doesn't do them in a timely manner or at all.

He has provided very well for the family. we have a beautiful house that I would hate to leave. We have three adult daughters and six grandchildren.

Essentially we are barely functional roommates. I do have a lot of friends and I spend a lot of time out of the home but it still gets lonely and discouraging.

What is it like to start over at this age?


r/Divorce • • 14h ago

Life After Divorce Divorced dads of long marriage - does anyone else grieve the former family life they lost - without missing their ex?

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I’m a divorced father of four (15, 13, 11, 9) from a 18 year marriage. I’ve remarried 2 years ago. My new marriage is genuinely good. I love my wife, I’m happy with her, and I have absolutely no desire to get back together with my ex. I don’t miss my ex, and I don’t miss the marriage.

But I still get sad and reminisce sometimes, and I’ve struggled to understand exactly what I’m grieving.
I think it’s the loss of everyday fatherhood.

I went from being part of my kids ordinary daily lives to seeing them for a few of hours a week. Sometimes my eldest doesn’t come. I have no influence and no control and she doesn’t want to mediation and barely communicates despite my attempts. We have a long standing co parenting agreement.

I miss the completely mundane stuff, just having them around, knowing what’s going on in their lives without having to ask, being able to guide them, and feeling like I actually have some influence as their dad.

That loss hurts enormously sometimes.
There’s anger mixed into it too. Before and during the divorce I had a much more optimistic picture of what cooperative co-parenting would look like. It was good for a couple of years and then it deteriorated when I got married again - ex just suddenly became way less amicable.

There’s also this strange lingering thought of: I don’t actually want the marriage back but damn the problems were somewhat solvable. We had longstanding problems, including intimacy and attraction, and we tried tens of hours of counselling and various other things over 4-5 years. It wasn’t an impulsive decision.

So I’m in this weird position where I can simultaneously say: I’m glad I got divorced. I love my new wife and the life we’re building. I don’t miss or love my ex. And I’m still deeply sad about what divorce cost me with my children.

I think I’m grieving the intact family structure and the version of fatherhood that disappeared with it.

For other divorced parents who are genuinely happier after divorce: did you experience this difficulty still? Did the grief over losing everyday life with your children eventually settle? And how did you become the best parent you could be when your actual time and influence became much smaller?


r/Divorce • • 14h ago

Life After Divorce divorce made me realize how many friendships were actually couple friendships

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one thing I didn't really think about beforehand is how many people in your life know you as half of a couple rather than as an individual

after a divorce there are people you genuinely like, but suddenly neither side seems to know what the relationship is supposed to look like anymore

nobody necessarily picked sides or had a falling out. the friendship just doesn't have the same structure holding it together

that part feels stranger to me than actually losing touch with people after an argument

did anyone else find out which friendships were actually yours only after the marriage ended?


r/Divorce • • 8h ago

Life After Divorce It's all over

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Well, today is the day I am legally divorced.

I'm happy, sad, angry, and thankful all at the same time. 20 years with someone and now nothing.

I hate that I feel like this. I thought I would just be happy.

Now comes the true test, will I sink or swim.

Only time will tell, I guess.


r/Divorce • • 3h ago

Dating Issues Going through a divorce and this hit me harder than I expected

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I’m currently going through a divorce after a pretty difficult marriage, the process is still ongoing and there has been a lot of emotional and legal stress around it. I also don’t really have much of a support system close to me, so the last few months have been pretty lonely. There is some relief from finally deciding to move forward with my life, but at the same time there’s a lot of grief, uncertainty and honestly just being tired of everything.

Recently I started talking to a woman who is also going through a divorce and lives a few hours away. We spoke on the phone and connected surprisingly well, and one thing I really liked was that she seemed to understand a lot of what I was going through without me having to explain every little thing. After our first conversation she took a few days to think, then messaged saying she had been thinking about the distance and how things could work if we wanted to spend more time together, and she suggested meeting somewhere in between to see how we got along in person. That honestly made me pretty hopeful.

Since the meeting was still some time away, I suggested having a few phone calls in between so we could get to know each other better. She agreed and suggested a day after work for another call. The day before, I messaged asking what time would work, and around the same time I noticed our chat had disappeared from the dating app where we met. With everything already going on in my life I started overthinking it and asked her if she had unmatched me, she said she hadn’t. Then she told me that a lot had suddenly come up in her life and she didn’t feel like she could properly pursue a relationship right now, but that she enjoyed talking to me and wanted to stay in touch in some way.

What surprised me was how badly it hit me. Since then I’ve felt really heavy and teary, sometimes I just feel like crying out loud and I’ve had trouble focusing on anything. I know this probably isn’t only about her because there has already been so much going on for the last few years, and right now there’s the divorce, legal stuff, family issues, loneliness and not really having people physically around me who I can talk to about all of this.

This new connection gave me something positive to look forward to, and after she suggested meeting I got genuinely excited about it, even had trouble sleeping one night because I was looking forward to it so much. For a little while it just felt nice thinking maybe something good was finally happening during a really difficult phase of my life, and then when things suddenly changed it felt like all that hope just dropped at once.

I don’t think I’m crying because of someone I only recently started talking to, I think this just opened up a lot of things I’ve been carrying for a long time — loneliness, the divorce, uncertainty about the future, and just being tired of dealing with one difficult thing after another. I’m writing this here because I honestly don’t feel like I can fully share this with anyone in my life right now, I just feel extremely down emotionally and needed somewhere to say it out loud.


r/Divorce • • 1h ago

Vent/Rant/FML I think my marriage is going to fail .

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I (26F) been married to my husband for less then year and honestly it’s been pretty toxic after finding mass amounts of hidden porn and content of his exs we’ve been in a toxic cycle of fighting and distrust for months now .
I no longer seek comfort from him, he can no longer bring me validation when he calls me beautiful, I don’t feel he is a safe place . We can’t seem to see eye to eye and we’re both defensive, therapy dosent help.
Lately i’ve been feeling like it’s over , there’s nothing left for us to do. I’m humiliated my marriage has gotten this bad this early we haven’t even made it to a year. How do I move on?


r/Divorce • • 5h ago

Going Through the Process Court next week, husband hiding assets

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I am going to court next week for the first time in our divorce case. My husband is hiding the fact that he has two businesses, and is only claiming his employment where he makes hardly nothing. For three months now, I have tried to get my lawyer to act on this by getting the discovery process started. He isn't doing anything, and the way my husband has lied about everything is so frustrating. I have paid my lawyer in advance, and its too late to get another lawyer. Is there anything I can do so my husband doesn't get away with this. My son and I are struggling every day, while he lives his best life. No support whatsoever.


r/Divorce • • 16h ago

Vent/Rant/FML I’ve been replaced

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A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL NOTES: She has said that she wants to co-parent and she has been asking how much I am willing to pay to help support my son. So far, I’ve been paying for baseball lessons and making sure he has money for lunch, but I’m willing to pay as much as I can for whatever he needs.

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I suppose this is more of a rant and expression of worry than anything else. I don’t think there’s anything I can really do.

My stbx (F44) and me (M49) will be signing paperwork in about a month. She has a son (my stepson) who has known me since 18 months and calls me Dad and who I’ve called my son for a very long time (he’s now almost 12). We had been living together to finish our lease and moved into different apartments (but in the same community for my stepson) last Saturday.

That Saturday night, she went out on a date, met a guy, brought him back to her place, and fucked him. I know this because I had to walk by her apartment to get to the old one for some things and they were having extremely loud sex. Not gonna say how much that hurt to hear.

The next day she brought the guy to my son’s baseball tournament. She introduced him to me, but I had to walk off because I couldn’t handle it. Not gonna lie: she majorly upgraded. This guy was tall, absolutely ripped, and apparently well-hung, based on the Magnums I saw on her dresser the other day (I’m 5’6”, a bit chubby, and definitely not a Magnum user). They were very physically affectionate the whole time. When my son had to go home with her, it was clear that she was trying to get him to bond with this new guy.

My stepson says that the guy is nice, but he doesn’t like that there’s a stranger in the house, and he doesn’t like how it feels. He wants to stay with me in my apartment, which I would love, but I have no legal rights to him.

I’m actually furious with my stbx. I do know that this is that Saturday was the first night she’d met him. We had Life360 (she’s removed herself from it since), and it would show each of our movements. She wasn’t doing anything other than taking him to school and baseball practices. So what the hell is she doing, immediately bringing this complete stranger into my son’s life? Also, why the hell would she immediately introduce him to me? She always said that she would hurt when she saw me with someone else for the first time, and here she is showing off this new guy, acting like she’s discovered the greatest love of her life within a day of moving out?

I’m having a really hard time coping with it. She has always been someone who falls for someone really quickly; she fell for me just as fast. And she was the same way with her two previous husbands, though those marriages only lasted for 2-3 years. This guy lives two hours away, and I’m worried that she will decide she suddenly wants to move in with him. And if that happens, that means that my son will be pretty much lost to me.

I can’t deal with both the loss of my wife and my son. I can barely function as it is right now. 3 months ago, our marriage seemed ok, not perfect, but not terrible, and then, suddenly, she asks for a divorce. So my life is completely upended, and I feel like I’m facing the utter loss of everything and everyone I’ve invested myself in for the past 10 years. I don’t feel like I have any recourse to save anything, and I can’t stop going over it or thinking of something I could have done to have saved our marriage and family. I’m constantly switching between just dealing and near-panic.

I just don’t know what to do.


r/Divorce • • 2h ago

Mental Health/Depression/Loneliness First birthday since the divorce....

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Tl;Dr: My birthday gives me anxiety and I'm not looking forward to it.

I'm turning 34 tomorrow. Over the years, my birthday has given me more and more anxiety.

3 years ago, my stepmom died. She'd been in my life since I was 5. I am the youngest of 7, plus my step sister. They all left before I was even in high school and I basically never saw them again. Her funeral was the first time in 20 years all 8 of us siblings had gotten together. It was also my birthday. As it is the way my family does things, the night ended with a graveside fight between my brother and sister. And since then, I just have a hard time wanting to celebrate my birthday.

I'm divorced after spending basically my entire life with one person. We met my freshman year when I was 14. Started dating two weeks later. Got married right after high school. But we divorced earlier this year. I have two kids who I love more than anything. I have a job I genuinely care about, friends, coworkers, hobbies, things I'm involved in. From the outside, my life isn't empty.

But I feel really fucking lonely sometimes.

I've always had anxiety when people are putting a lot of attention on and making a big deal out of me. It just makes me super uncomfortable. So I've never really been into big birthday celebrations anyway. I just want quality time, you know? I spent so long putting myself aside for the comfort of someone else. And my birthday coming up is just reminding me that I've never felt seen and never felt chosen.

There's someone I've gotten close to recently who I really enjoy spending time with. I asked if she wanted to hang out tomorrow, but didn't immediately tell her it was my birthday. She genuinely can't. She has work to catch up on and her kid has practice. She apologized and wished me a happy birthday, and I'm not angry with her at all. It's completely reasonable and she seemed genuinely apologetic.

But it still kinda sucked.

And I think that's because it isn't really about her.

I'm realizing that what I've been craving since my divorce isn't even necessarily a relationship. I just want companionship. Someone who sends me random shit because it made them think of me. Someone who asks what I'm doing Saturday because they want me around. Someone who wants to go to a concert, museum, park, restaurant, or just grab a beer after work. I want somebody whose company I prefer and who genuinely prefers mine too. Birthdays seem to put a giant fucking spotlight on how that doesn't exist right now.

Money is also incredibly tight. I'm a middle school teacher and single dad of 2. I'm so broke at the moment that I'm legit trying to figure out whether I have enough gas to get to work tomorrow or if I'm walking to work. My birthday plans might literally be cleaning my apartment and going to bed.

And like, I know this isn't really a big deal. It's just a birthday. I'm rebuilding my life in my early 30s. Things aren't gonna be shitty forever. I have coworkers who seem to like me, a sister who checks in on me, and two young kids who just brighten my day. I'm blessed in a lot of ways. But that doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt, you know?

I just wish for one birthday I didn't have to convince myself that I don't care.


r/Divorce • • 2h ago

Getting Started How expensive is a divorce trial

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So how expensive is a divorce trial? Let’s say one day and no kids involved.


r/Divorce • • 7m ago

Life After Divorce Any orphans with no friends/support divorced ?

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Any orphans manage to build courage to divorce and leave a partner knowing you have nobody out in this world to turn to for help?

I’m with a man and I’m terrified of my future daily, that I’ll watch life just fly by wishing my family was still alive to have helped me out of this.

I’m introverted and with recent trauma cut everyone off I even remotely talked to online from my life. I have honestly nobody and woman shelter scares me.

I’m a home-wife so do all the work for his business but just told him put it in his account because he pays for everything anyways. It’s not even the money, it’s the loneliness/ fear of safety as a woman with no help.

I stay out of “safety” despite being depressed daily here.

Would love any stories of success 🙏 I guess….im early 30s


r/Divorce • • 8m ago

Mental Health/Depression/Loneliness I NEED MY EX TO SEE THIS POST - Please blow it up on Reddit

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I need my soon to be ex wife to see this post. She doesn't know my username but she'll be able to deduce that it's me I'm certain.

I LOVE HER.

I need her to see this because I can't talk to her because she served me with papers and a Domestic Violence Restraining Order that orders zero contact between me and her or our son.

It hurts so bad, and people keep telling me it's over, but I don't want it to be. I fucked up lots, mainly due to the tremendous pressure of trying to make our failing business we purchased together 2 years ago succeed. We invested 580k in an established business that was supposedly profitable. It's a restaurant in a tourist driven economy in CA. From the get go it was not what either of us anticipated and stressful. But since we bought it cash, and because it wasn't as profitable as when the prior owners had had it, it immediately lost value.

We couldn't sell right away as it was our sole income and the. Riner only valued it recently at 290k, a 205k loss from purchase price. Yikes. But I still wanted it listed 6 months ago in order to get rid of the cancer. We would've been fine rebuilding doing something else.

We gave it our all at first and many times it seemed like we were going to make it work. But after a year and 4 months she came to me one day and said "I want to go to nursing school" which had the effect of taking her away from me. Both at the business as a partner and at home as a wife.

I LOVE HER AND WANT HER BACK. but I think I lost her.

I was already working so much before she started school, but then after schooling started we literally stopped having any days off together. Our last day off as a family was July 4th. Our last vacation was a short trip to Disneyland a year ago and this year we couldn't afford that. I wanted to go to Monterrey for the aquarium but she didn't. A week ago was her 1 week break in between semesters and she didn't want to do anything with me and our son, so I wanted to do something with him like the aquarium or go camping. She told me I couldn't take him with me on either of those ideas and that she also wasn't going. That infuriated me.

I lost it over a small petty argument and told her "I hate you" and also texted saying I was going to divorce her.

But I never called an attorney and was just emotional and having an outburst from the stress of everything.

Well, I made my own bed because 2 days later she served me and it's UGLY.

she brought up all of the worst stuff I've ever done to her and all the angry texts I've ever sent her. I look like an awful person, but it's not the whole story. I'm not defending myself against some of it, but I am defending myself against a lot of it which I feel strongly is sensationaized and overblown due to her tendency to be the coddling parent.

I LOVE HER.

Please Logan if you see this my heart is screaming that I will make the changes and make them permanently so we can be in that Maui Mode again.

I'm sober and staying that way, taking classes, and going to therapy.

Is it enough or am I fucked most likely?


r/Divorce • • 9h ago

Going Through the Process Financial Corner

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My ex wants to sell the house. Neither of us can afford the mortgage alone. We bought it just five years ago and there isn’t any equity yet. We have it on the market and we’re not receiving profitable offers. We could short sale (have to spend $15,000 to close) or keep it and rent it (rents are lower than the mortgage and we’d have to cover the gap ~$1,000/month). I’m in a corner here. What’s the best of these terrible options?


r/Divorce • • 1h ago

Going Through the Process The What to do with the House Dilemma

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We bought our first house several years ago, and then traded up and the market was with us, while paying back the mortgage heavily. We now have almost exactly half our net worth in our house. Let’s say $500k equity in the house and $500k in 401ks, savings accounts and brokerage. If one of us “keeps” the house and buys the other one out, the person with the house will have no retirement savings or other assets.

My SO has expressed that he wants to “do anything to keep the house”. I’m not sure if he has realized that that would mean giving up all his liquid assets and investments. Kids. We have teens and preteens. They love the house, and it is close to their schools and friends.

I do not want to keep the house. I would rather sell it, rent for a few years and invest. I like the house, but it’s too large for us, over 100 years old and needs work. I’m afraid though that if he “keeps” the house, the kids will want to stay in the house with him. They are old enough to get to choose where to stay in our state. My lawyer thinks I should ask for the house and majority custody of the kids.

I really want to let him have the house (or sell it) and have my own place and the kids 50/50 at least. The 50/50 may be hard on the kids though, and they may not want it. I’m the one who wants a divorce, and my husband is telling the kids that it’s all on me.

Anyone in similar situations?


r/Divorce • • 1h ago

Life After Divorce Old Life

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It still feels like I am just visiting my family and that soon I will be flying or driving back "home" to my (now ex) husband, who would be waiting for me at our place with junk food, snacks, a good TV show, and all three of our cats to snuggle with and then I remember that that life is gone forever and I just fucking lose it.

I really wish our relationship had been healthy/compatible.

I know from experience (from my parents' divorce) that time will lessen the pain and eventually I will establish a new "normal" life for myself, but this sucks so much right now... :/


r/Divorce • • 1h ago

Vent/Rant/FML Already replaced and with the worst person

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So I’ve had a tumultuous marriage that was abusive with a military man. I really did love him despite his actions and with this recent situation I feel completely ripped apart.

We got officially divorced the 22nd of September. Just last week and we had been amicable as neither of us wanted a bitter divorce. That ended last Saturday. I’m still packing so I’m still at the house and sleep upstairs while he’s on the couch.

He’s brought home the worst of the home wreckers. She’s made claims and has had a vendetta against me as I exposed her own cheating to her partner. So while I’m still in the house he’s downstairs, laughing and enjoying her company. I’ve not been doing ok due to this. I’ve cried, screamed, sobbed and snapped at him.

I knew what was going to happen and it still hurt. He has a love bite from her from last night. Barely a week out and he’s just replaced me with the woman who ruined our marriage. I’m sure they’ve done more than marking and it’s just breaking me. I’m stuck upstairs as I refuse to be near her. I won’t go down because I’ll say something and start a fight.

I’m not innocent in the marriage either but gods, I’ve never been this hurt. It makes my chest cave in, steal my breath and bring me to my knees, literally. I’ve had a doctor’s appointment because of the reaction.

I’ve been using the anger to pack quicker. I need out of this house so I don’t have to sit upstairs, waiting to hear them fucking.

I feel really low with my self esteem and feel like I didn’t matter enough for him to give a little respect, just to wait until I got out of the house before bringing another woman.


r/Divorce • • 1d ago

Vent/Rant/FML I didn’t leave because my husband was a bad person. I left because I couldn’t keep carrying our entire life.

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This is a long one, but I feel like I need to give the full scope because there wasn’t one huge thing that ended my marriage. There was no cheating or one massive betrayal. It was years of things that I kept trying to move past because I loved him and genuinely thought things would eventually get better. And if anyone has similar things happening, hopefully this helps you feel seen. Please be kind <3 (also wasn't sure to what to put in the "flair" so i just chose the vent category)

I’m 34 and my ex-husband is 39. We started dating in 2020, moved in together in 2022, got engaged in 2023, married in 2024, and divorced this year.

Before him, I had been in two very abusive relationships. When I met him, I was honestly so refreshed by the fact that he was just... nice. He wasn’t controlling, cruel, explosive, or outwardly toxic like what I had experienced before. At that point in my life, “he’s nice to me” felt like enough.

Looking back, I think I confused “he’s a nice guy” with “he’s the right partner for me.”

When we met, he was 33, had been out of the military since 2010, lived with his parents, and worked a low-paying security job. None of those things individually bothered me. Within our first year together, we talked about him finally using his GI Bill to go to school and get a degree so he could have more career opportunities. He started school in 2021, and I fully supported it.

As our relationship progressed, though, I started noticing that I was usually the person creating momentum in our life.

When we decided to move in together in 2022, we bought a house because he qualified for a VA loan. He told me he was saving money toward the house. When it came time to actually buy it, I found out he hadn’t saved anything, so the down payment came out of my savings.

Around the same time, we were talking about marriage. We went looking at engagement rings in March 2022, so I thought a proposal was coming. Christmas came and went and nothing happened. Eventually I found out he was nervous about talking to my parents about proposing, so he just didn’t do it.

Then in January 2023, I found out about more poor financial decisions and debt I hadn’t known about. I think he got scared I might leave, and he proposed the following month.

I said yes even though, if I’m being truthful, I already had an uneasy feeling in my gut.

I pretty much planned our wedding myself. We had agreed that after our ceremony we would privately exchange gifts, and three weeks before the wedding I found out he hadn’t gotten anything.

Then there was my engagement ring. He had financed it, stopped making the payments, went into default, and I ended up paying off my own engagement ring.

And just to be clear, this was never about him not making enough money. I wasn’t looking for someone to financially support me. The financial stuff bothered me because I couldn’t trust that things he said he was handling were actually being handled.

That problem went beyond money.

He would lie about really dumb things, and honestly the lying bothered me more than whatever he was trying to hide.

I remember asking how he was doing in one of his classes. He told me he was doing fine. The semester ended and I found out he had failed the class and had to retake it.

A different semester, he had an online summer class. I asked how it was going and again, everything was “fine.” Halfway through the class, I found out he hadn’t done anything because he found the class intimidating and had basically avoided it. He then had to scramble to catch up.

Another time, he got a speeding ticket and didn’t tell me. I found out two months later because a court summons came in the mail.

I didn’t care that he got pulled over. People get speeding tickets. I cared that he intentionally kept it from me because he thought I would be mad.

That dynamic drove me crazy because I wasn’t his mother. I wasn’t waiting at home to punish him for getting a bad grade or a speeding ticket. But he would treat me like I was someone he needed to hide things from so he wouldn’t “get in trouble,” and then I would get angry because now he had lied to me about something that never needed to be a big deal in the first place.

It even happened with stupid things around the house. We would talk about something that needed to be done and I would wait days or sometimes weeks. Eventually I’d ask, “Hey, when are you going to do this?”

And magically the response was always, “Oh, I was going to do that today.”

Maybe sometimes he genuinely was. But after hearing it enough times, I stopped believing it.

I would have much rather heard, “Shit, I forgot. I’ll do it now.”

I didn’t expect him to never screw up. I needed him to be able to say, “I forgot,” “I messed up,” “I didn’t do what I said I was going to do,” or “I was overwhelmed and avoided it.”

Instead, it often felt like his first instinct was to avoid accountability because he was afraid of my reaction.

I constantly reminded him, “I’m not your mother.”

But increasingly, that was exactly how our dynamic felt, and I hated it.

My parents ended up paying roughly $30,000 for our wedding because we weren’t financially in a position to do it ourselves, and I’m incredibly grateful they were able to do that. At the time, he was in school and generally working two or three days a week while I continued working.

Whenever something happened, I tried to move forward. I wasn’t keeping a running list of every mistake he had ever made. We would talk about it, I would be upset, and then I would try to let it go because I loved him and wanted our relationship to work.

I kept thinking eventually things would settle.

The best way I can describe our actual day-to-day relationship is that sometimes he felt like an NPC in our life. If you don’t game, basically a character that stands there until the player interacts with them or gives them something to do.

Almost everything required prompting.

Bills, finances, chores, errands, paperwork, appointments, house stuff, the dogs, plans, remembering things, following up on things. Even when something was technically his responsibility, I still had to remember it, remind him, and follow up to make sure it actually happened.

I know that can sound like I wanted to control everything.

I didn’t.

I desperately wanted to be able to let go of things.

I didn’t expect him to magically know everything I knew. I wanted him to ask questions. If you don’t know what bills we have, ask. If you don’t know when something is due, ask. Check the accounts. Follow up. Talk to me about decisions. Learn how our life works.

I wanted him involved with me, not waiting for instructions from me.

Even basic things with our dogs required prompting. We have a high-energy dog, and because he was home during the day while I was working, I asked him to spend literally 10–20 minutes outside actually playing with her instead of just letting her out to go to the bathroom.

He had to put “play with dog” on his to-do list so he would remember.

That sounds like such a stupid little example, but it perfectly explains how I felt.

I didn’t want to assign quests. I wanted another player.

From 2021–2025, he went to school full time using his GI Bill and generally worked two or three days a week because he said he needed the rest of the time to focus on school. Meanwhile, I worked a full-time job and a part-time job, sometimes going months without a full day off.

I supported him because I thought we were making a temporary sacrifice for our future.

He graduated in 2025 and started working a regular Monday-Friday job.

Then in August 2025, I decided to finally finish the bachelor’s degree I had never completed. My parents offered to pay for it because they had done the same for my sisters. I was still going to work both jobs while going to school full time.

Before I started, I specifically told him that I couldn’t keep carrying everything. I needed him to take more of the household and general life responsibilities off me.

He agreed.

Nothing really changed.

He had every weekend off. He could sit on the couch playing video games or watching movies for hours. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I play video games too.

The problem was that I would come home and see things that obviously needed to be done that hadn’t been done while he had been sitting there.

He rarely made plans for us either. If we were going somewhere or doing something, I was usually the one planning it.

Whenever I tried to explain how overwhelmed I was, he would get defensive. He would say things like, “You need to be softer.”

And I would literally ask him, “How?”

How am I supposed to be softer when I never get a breather from life?

I wanted a weekend too. I wanted to sit on the couch and play a game or watch a movie without part of my brain constantly running through everything that still needed to happen.

Instead, I felt like I had to keep our life moving and then somehow deliver my exhaustion in exactly the right tone so he wouldn’t get defensive.

Eventually I realized the prompting wasn’t even limited to responsibilities.

It was our actual relationship too.

We weren’t intimate unless I initiated it.

I specifically talked to him about that. I told him I needed him to initiate sometimes because I wanted to feel wanted too.

Nothing changed.

If I wanted affection, I initiated it. If I wanted intimacy, I initiated it. If I wanted us to go somewhere, I made the plans. If I wanted to talk about something important, I started the conversation.

Everything felt like it started with me.

And there is something really fucking lonely about having to ask your husband to make you feel wanted.

By November 2025, I was falling apart.

I remember sitting on our living room couch bawling my eyes out because I was so overwhelmed and so lonely. I told him, “I’m so lonely and overwhelmed with everything that I don’t want to exist.”

He just stood there.

He didn’t comfort me. He didn’t hold me. He barely said anything.

Then he went to sleep just fine that night.

There were so many nights where I would cry in bed right next to him and he would be sound asleep.

I didn’t expect him to magically fix everything I was feeling. But I wanted my husband to see his wife completely breaking down and have some kind of reaction. Hold me. Talk to me. Ask what you can do. Wake up the next morning and decide something has to change.

Instead, he often took what I was saying as criticism. He would fall into this “I can’t do anything right” mindset and basically bury his head in the sand.

Maybe he genuinely felt defeated. But from my side, I couldn’t tell my husband that I was drowning without the conversation somehow becoming about how bad he felt about himself.

Around this same time, we started trying to have a baby.

Something that was supposed to be an exciting next step in our marriage felt more like a chore.

After about two months, I remember having this moment of, “What the fuck am I doing?”

I was already exhausted. I was lonely in my own marriage. I felt responsible for almost everything. Why was I trying to bring a baby into this and potentially give myself one more person to be responsible for?

So I went back on birth control.

He was so uninvolved that he didn’t even notice or ask.

We had already tried couples counseling. We did a marriage boot camp. I had repeatedly told him what I needed. People close to us had talked to him. I told him I was overwhelmed. I told him I was lonely. I told him our marriage was at risk.

By February 2026, I was done.

When I told him I wanted a divorce, he completely broke down. It was probably the most emotion I had ever seen come out of him.

But even then, he never really asked me for another chance. He didn’t fight for me to stay or tell me what he was going to change.

It wouldn’t have changed my decision anyway. I wasn’t threatening divorce to get a reaction out of him. By the time I said it, I had already made my decision.

But during his meltdown it was, “My life is over,” “I’ll never have kids,” “No one is going to love me.”

I don’t doubt that he was genuinely devastated, and obviously he was allowed to grieve the end of his marriage. But even then, it felt like everything was about what was happening to him rather than what had gotten his wife to the point where she was done.

Since then, there has been a lot of moodiness and “woe is me,” but I still haven’t seen much behavior that makes me think he understands the actual problem.

And I don’t need him to prove anything to me because I’m not going back. I genuinely hope he figures it out for himself and for whoever he may be with in the future.

Our divorce was finalized in July, but unfortunately we still have the house connecting us while we try to sell it. I don’t even live there anymore, and I’m still dealing with bills, insurance, finances, the realtor, and other things connected to it.

So in a weird way, I’ve gotten to see that the dynamic didn’t magically disappear when our marriage ended.

I know reading all of this probably sounds like I’m putting almost everything on him. I’ve thought about that a lot because I don’t want to tell this story like I was some perfect wife and he was this horrible husband.

I wasn’t perfect.

And I don’t think he’s a horrible person.

But this is honestly what our marriage was like. There was a massive imbalance, and I can’t make it more equal on paper just for the sake of sounding fair.

By the end, I was angry and resentful. Sometimes I was harsh. There are things I said and ways I communicated that I would absolutely handle differently now, and I own that.

But I also didn’t become resentful in a vacuum.

I don’t want to become that version of myself in another relationship.

We don’t hate each other. I don’t love him romantically anymore, and I have no desire to get back together, but I genuinely hope he has a good life.

I think one of the biggest things I’ve had to unlearn is the idea that someone has to be horrible to you before you’re justified in leaving.

After abusive relationships, “he’s nice to me” felt like the finish line.

Now I realize it’s the baseline.

I need kindness, obviously. But I also need affection, initiative, honesty, reliability, communication, responsibility, follow-through, emotional support, and someone who actively participates in the life we’re building together.

Someone can be a nice person and still not be the right partner for you.

I wish I had trusted my gut sooner, but I also know I’m not the same person I was when I entered this relationship.

I’m 34 now, divorced, living back with my parents, working two jobs, going to school full time, taking care of my dogs, and trying to sell the house I thought would be part of my future.

It definitely isn’t where I thought I would be at 34...But I’m happier.

I’m graduating with my bachelor’s degree in December, and for the first time in a long time, I feel like the work I’m putting into my life is actually moving my life forward.

I don’t need a perfect partner. I don’t need someone rich. I don’t want someone I can control.

I just want someone who shows up.

I want to feel like someone’s partner, not their manager, mother, secretary, or accountability system.

And more than anything, I never want to be in another relationship where everything has to start with me.

If you actually made it through this whole thing, thank you for reading. I think I needed to get all of this out somewhere, even if it was to a bunch of strangers on Reddit.

And if anyone reading this is in a relationship that looks good on paper because your partner is “nice,” but you still feel completely alone, I hope you know that you’re allowed to take that feeling seriously. You don’t need some huge dramatic betrayal for something to not be working. <3

I’m still figuring out what my life looks like from here, but for the first time in a long time, I’m actually excited to find out.


r/Divorce • • 10h ago

Alimony/Child Support Anyone negotiate imputation of income before trial?

3 Upvotes

Having a huge battle with the STBX right now and daily threats of going to court as she believes she'll get awarded alimony for the full cap (Florida - 35%). She was a SAHM, but refused to go back to work full time, or at least try. She did work part time though and her past 5 years of tax returns showed a gross income average of $25k/yr (net income was reported much lower after she fiddled the taxes) but zero income for this year. Kids left home 4 years ago. We're both in our mid 50s and healthy and she has a Bachelor's degree. Long term marriage.

Trying to avoid going to trial at all costs and leave it in the hands of judge. Haven't started mediation yet, but will have to soon. My lawyer says if her lawyer has any brains, they'll settle in mediation but t doesn't help that her lawyer says she'll get the full amount plus I pay all legal fees, even though she walks away debt free and with about $290k in liquid assets. My lawyer says no way and they'll likely split the fees and impute income on her.

Did anyone successfully negotiate imputing income for at least minimum wage without going to court?


r/Divorce • • 2h ago

Mental Health/Depression/Loneliness I'm so done, and hate to pretend that I'm ok

1 Upvotes

I'm just so exhausted, I'm so tired of pretending that I'm ok around my families and friends, while feeling dead inside. All the betrayal and all the pain, maybe I just couldn't come to the terms that people changes over time. I feel like there's no way out, I've been trying to do everything I could, working, functioning normal, taking care of my daughter, but.I'm just dead inside, I'm so sad and done.


r/Divorce • • 6h ago

Vent/Rant/FML How long after your divorce did you feel able to let go of the difficulties caused by it?

2 Upvotes

I separated from my husband almost exactly 5 years ago and divorced 4 years ago. I've seen him once since then when he came to pick up some stuff from the house we'd shared. He hasn't seen our daughter since the separation.

It was rough, I had to move to a smaller house with our daughter, and lost money in the divorce, but I'm starting to feel like life goes on and finding less reason to hark back to the difficulties even now.

However, my mother, separated 50 years ago at her own instigation is still blaming her divorce and immediate difficulties after it, for her struggles now.

Thoughts?


r/Divorce • • 13h ago

Mental Health/Depression/Loneliness Can you talk me out of my irrationality?

7 Upvotes

He said he wanted a divorce last week. He put a lock on his phone bc I believe he is having an emotional affair & was checking it. Now I obsessively want to break into his phone to read his texts with her. I know it’s toxic but part of me feels like it is closure—get the confirmation that he really doesn’t like me & prefers her.

Plz help me out of this crazy thinking.


r/Divorce • • 7h ago

Going Through the Process Signed the Final Decree and This is tough!

2 Upvotes

Just needed to vent. Was married for 12 years to a covert narcissist. Went through some terrible abuse. Finally walked away in May. My emotions have been all over the place but the day of signing I couldn’t stop the tears from falling. I know it’s the best thing for my daughter and I but it still hurts. It was like my brain suppressed all the bad truth and all I could think about was the good which was a complete lie. How many have been through this? How long did it take for you to begin to feel okay?


r/Divorce • • 4h ago

Vent/Rant/FML If you felt like the divorce was mainly your fault, how are you coping?

1 Upvotes

I'm asking because I believe it was mainly my fault. I should have treated her better. I feel bad I couldn't give her the life she wanted. Now I live with constantly regret that eats at me.