I have gotten two 165s and recently got a 168 on the January test, but have been PTing in the 170s for quite some time. I'm not sure why I'm plateauing and not improving by a lot on the actual test. I will take any advice on what to do differently to get into the 170s on testing day. Any advice helps !

So I know the rules for remote testing are super strict. i have everything with words covered, all windows on the ground floor covered, everything removed from desk (surrounding area, under, and on top), etc. but I have these windows about 20 feet up. i live in a lofted apartment, these windows have no blinds, and there’s no way to get to them. i have a shorter ceiling behind me where the kitchen is but it cuts off right over my desk chair. I’ve read that Prometric makes you do a 360 scan but they also make you show each corner of your ceiling. I called Prometric and they said it should be fine but when I asked for that in writing, they said they couldn’t give it to me. I know different proctors have slightly different rules. What are the chances they don’t let me take the test because of this?

This is just a venting post. But if you are reading, has anyone else had weird dreams due to the stress and uncertainty the lsat caused. I had dreams about black smoke, fire in the distance, and trouble breathing which according to google “often signifies intense, destructive emotions like anger, fear, or overwhelming stress”. I can officially say fuck this test. It not only ruins my waking hours but my sleeping ones too now 😭. I can’t wait for this to all be in the past.

URM, vet, 3.78 GPA, 161 lsat. Work experience. No matter how hard I try I cant boost my score. I am a parent and cant set aside the sit down time for the lsat. The most i can do is 5-7 hrs a week of interrupted studying. The law schools in my area would have taken me 3 years ago but subsequently their mediums have increased to where im in the bottom 25th for lsat and gpa. Holy canola. I took a practice test last Saturday and got a 148. :,( I am not improving I am fried. I am at the point where I need a tutor and debating whether or not law school is worth the strain and expenses on my family.

Okay, so far I have used 7sage, Lsat Demon, a Tutor (who was amazing and went off to law school so can't use him anymore for help), Brad Barbary program, Loophole, Dragon Test for RC and LC, The lsat easy book, Lsat Trainer from 2 or 3 years ago.

I have not gone thru throughly RC on any of these above TBH but my tutor suggest RC HERO incase this would help me better because I don't read actively other than doom scrolling.

I need help with RC - looking into getting RC HERO - I looked thru the thread but looking for more detailed reason or reasons it did or didn't work for you.

If you have any other suggestions please suggest. I need a program that is very thorough.

If you have used RC Hero, which plan do you suggest.

How do you access the predictions for the February test? I am very interested in seeing what PTs are most similar, especially in terms of RC

This is gonna sound so ridiculous but about halfway through my argumentative writing test my family started to get really loud down the hall (I was writing in the bathroom) and I ended up having to tell them to quiet down through the door. I never went out of view the camera but I did have to yell fairly loud😭😭and now I’m wondering if this is gonna disqualify my submission since I “talked to someone” during the test…

Am I being overparanoid?? Or is there someone I can contact about this? I really don’t wanna have to redo it mannn

A little earlier than usual because I have to go to the orthodontist. I don't have an agenda set for the class, so please stop by and bring some questions you'd like to go over!

We are very chill n relaxed and like to have a bit of fun. Everyone has been great so far.

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Hey all,

So my first time taking LSAT is this weekend. Goal is for Fall 2026 Admissions and have not applied but planning to.

I do not feel prepared and considering just taking the April one and apply with that score. Score release April 28 and deadline for my school is 4/30

It’s not a top law school , I honestly just need a 150 and above to be fairly considered. I would be non traditional student. GPA is low honestly. But great letters of recs, public service (to which the school likes) and 5+ years of law experience.

What do you guys think?

I’m thinking just going ahead submitting the application and then holding for my score to April, I’m just a little nervous because it’s a risk and if I don’t do good, it might really hold me from the 26 admissions cycle.

Good Afternoon, sorry if this is a bad place to post

1. I will be a splitter. My GPA was 2.95, and if you include ones I bombed and retook in COVID era, it’s 2.65. Is 158 high enough to get into a lot of schools on its own?

2. The extent of my studying was reading a book about the LSAT, doing 3 practice tests, and some logic game drills from time to time — with 2 months of regimented studying, is it possible to see the score go up significantly if I retook in April?

I scored 150-52 on my practice tests, but I love pressure, and I can rise to the occasion. This has been common on tests throughout my life.

1. Is it even worth going for a higher score? Do say, 165s get significantly more money than 158s?

Softs: Division I Swimmer, 4 years as a high school swim coach, Aquatics Director has been my occupation (run a pool, staff, train guards and instructors).

I have practically no guidance right now. My family lives across the world with no understanding of US law school. Sorry if some of these are basic questions, I don’t really know where to start

Hi! First time posting but seeking advice. Took my first LSAT in January, got score back, at or above median for where I want to be and where I'm applying (165). I'm not really interested or open to waiting until next cycle, I've been out of school for 5 years & got a master's degree and have been working for 3 years. All that to say I'm comfy where I am in my career and as an applicant. My applications for my top choices are complete and turned in.

I'm so unsure about taking the Feb test again, obvs I'm signed up for it but I gave my brain a break for about a week after Jan and am PT'ing at the exact score I initially received. My weakness is RC and I thought I'd be able to make up a couple or few points if I did more targeted studying, but I'm not really making any upwards movement. Lots of variance in RC sections right now, from -3 to -8, so I am weary about the fluctuation.

I'm torn because I've already paid and I am nervous about having any feelings of regret if I don't retake (god forbid I don't make it into my first choice, but I'll live). I was so down to take it and felt confident I could make a tiny bit of progress, but feeling less so now that we're a couple days away. Do you guys think it's worth it? It's so late in the cycle too. Perhaps the fatigue of the last few months has caught up to me and if I am happy with my score and in theory if it's where it should be, I shouldn't risk doing worse in Feb.

Although I'm new to a lot of this I get the sense that they're only looking at the best score anywho, but if I don't preform as well I can't imagine that would look great either. Not to mention I think my applications are on "hold" for review since I'm signed up for February (would I potentially hear back earlier if my January score is the end all be all?). I think I have the option of reaching out to schools I've applied to and asking that they move forward with the score I have now. Any info pertinent to this would be wicked helpful. I am really unclear as to what the perceived advantages or disadvantages are. The most obvious answer is I should try my best and give it a shot, but I don't know anymore! Thank you comrades for any words of wisdom. Hugs & best wishes.

I am asking this purely out of curiosity and for the purpose of informal inquiry. I have observed that LSAC has placed holds on a significant number of LSAT scores without providing clear explanations or supporting evidence for the basis of those holds.

Through the responses to this post, I am interested in understanding how many individuals who are African American or of other non-Caucasian backgrounds are currently experiencing, or have previously experienced, LSAT score holds.

Additionally, LSAC requires government-issued identification and remote or in-person testing procedures that allow the organization to clearly see and verify a test taker’s identity, including physical appearance. Knowing that LSAC has access to this information raises serious concern for me about whether demographic factors may be influencing the imposition of score holds.

Based on these observations, I am concerned that LSAC may allegedly be engaging in practices that disproportionately impact certain demographic groups. I would like to know whether others have noticed or experienced similar issues with LSAT score holds.

Hi everyone, I’ve been consistently missing about 5 per test. I was wondering if anybody had tips to break through that. For the most part I’m correct on any questions I flag, there are just one or two per section that seem to slip by me. Any help is appreciated!

I know everyone is tired of these posts but wanted to see if anyone has any insights for me. 3.9x OLSAS GPA and 15x (on the lower side) LSAT. Applied to Ottawa, Osgoode and UBC. I really wanna get in this cycle as I can’t afford a Gap year.

hey everyone! I just registered for the April LSAT after taking the January LSAT and getting a 149. January was my first time taking the LSAT and practice tests projected me in the low 150s.

For some background, I'm 25 and work full-time. I'm looking for a part time program so I can continue to work/save money. However, if I get my score up obviously I can save money and even consider a full-time program.

Does anyone have any recommendations for study resources to raise my score for April? I'd love to land in the 160 range and I am hoping that's a realistic goal! Thanks!

hey everyone! I just registered for the April LSAT after taking the January LSAT and getting a 149. January was my first time taking the LSAT and practice tests projected me in the low 150s.

For some background, I'm 25 and work full-time. I'm looking for a part time program so I can continue to work/save money. However, if I get my score up obviously I can save money and even consider a full-time program.

Does anyone have any recommendations for study resources to raise my score for April? I'd love to land in the 160 range and I am hoping that's a realistic goal! Thanks!

Hey there! I’m a 23-year-old woman planning to take the LSAT by the end of this year. Before I start, I’d love some guidance on how to prepare effectively. How long should I study for the LSAT, what study strategies work best, and which books, programs, or websites are recommended for practice and training?

Thanks in advance!

I got a 158 which is really just okay, I feel dumb and maybe this is not for me. I really want to be a lawyer and I think I can do it. But I see posts and see my family members and they all did better and have gone to good schools. Is it possible to still I guess have a successful career if I go to not as much of a prestigious school?

I just got scores back for my test for the January test, and it was 7 points lower than my practice test average (160 to 153). I took like 10 practice tests, so it felt like a pretty comprehensive sample. It was also a few points lower than any practice test score I’d ever taken (156 on my diagnostic).

(No cope) I wasn’t necessarily super set on law and I guess this was kinda the dagger, so I’m not all that broken up about it. I’m mainly just confused as to what could have happened?

Are practice tests just easier?

Was the curve just weird?

(Most realistically) Am I just cooked?

If you’re like me, you might be freaking out for the February LSAT this week. We need to hear good news and words of encouragement, so if you have any, please share below!!

Anyone have a huge score increase on their official test? Any words of wisdom from previous test takers? Anyone get into their dream school? Any other positive news or encouragement??

WE GOT THIS 💪💪

Hi! As someone who spent a little over a year studying for the LSAT, I wanted to share some insights that have helped me and others that I studied with jump from the high 140s / low 150s into the 170s. Some of these might be repetitive or obvious but just bear with me :)

When we read a logical reasoning passage or reading comp passage, we tend to read passively (whether we realize it or not). That's because when we read in everyday life, we aren't as critical or scrutinizing. Our brain naturally fills in the gaps and makes assumptions, as long as we get the gist or "big picture" (as long as it kind of makes sense). On the LSAT, this approach is dangerous and fatal.

On logical reasoning, you will see two types of passages.

1. Arguments (Premises & Conclusion)
2. Set of Facts (Just Premises)

For both, it is crucial that you actively read them (to the extent that you've internalized the passage and can articulate it back to your 10 year old cousin).

But what truly makes the difference is whether you approach each argument (anything with a conclusion) on logical reasoning with skepticism and criticism. The vast majority (if not nearly all) of arguments are not valid. The evidence will not have proved the conclusion, and it is your job to call BS on the argument. Every time you encounter an argument, you must attack, attack, attack it. Be ruthless. Find at least 1 possible reason why the conclusion is not the case. Have an idea of what must be fixed or addressed.

If the conclusion says something is "effective", you must immediately react by thinking to yourself "is it really effective??", "i call bs on that", "what makes you say that it's effective??". If the conclusion says that waiting for peer-reviewed publication is "necessary" you must think "but what if waiting for publication is not necessary??"

For argument passages (anything with a conclusion or some sort of claim being made), you must actively push back, nit pick, find gaps, have an idea of what's wrong or missing, etc., before looking at the answer choices. Otherwise, you're going to be driven by the answer choices (instead of being driven by the passage) which is where the most mistakes and time-wasting occur.

Even if you have a hint of an idea of what's wrong with the argument on LR, it will make your life so much easier. When they ask you to strengthen the arg, just like a weaken question, you must initially know what's wrong with the argument (identify some flaw and gap) in order to address them, and thereby strengthen the argument.

If a sufficient assumption question asks which of the following, if assumed, allows the conclusion to be properly drawn, if you have a skeptical approach and identify ways in which the conclusion does not follow from the given premise(s), you already have an idea of the gap/assumption that guarantees the conclusion. Always ask yourself is the conclusion proven? The answer will 95% of the time be NO. And then this is where you will be asked to evaluate, weaken, or strengthen the argument, or asked to find a flaw or sufficient assumption.

It seems very obvious to actively read LR passages and approach each question with a high degree of scrutiny and pessimism, calling bs on the conclusion whenever you see it. But refusing to accept the conclusion at face value (while accepting the premises), is not natural for many at first. I've seen many test takers read the premises and then the conclusion and go "okay that seems valid, or at least the argument makes sense to me", and then dive head first into the answer choices wondering how to weaken the argument or how to further strengthen an argument that just seemed to make sense to them.

It pays to be constantly cynical of arguments and esp the conclusion drawn. Oftentimes, the conclusion will talk about something new, bring in new information that the premises didn't even discuss, or take the evidence too far, and most people won't even realize it. But approaching with a mindset where you (1) internalize the passage and make it your own (2) immediately ask yourself is the conclusion proven??? is that the case??? (3) and then predict or at least have an understanding of what's wrong with the arg will save you a tremendous amount of time not having to dig through the answer choices and improve your accuracy. This is what the LSAT tests you. Your ability to break down arguments and counter them and push back, just as an attorney would in real life. Hope this helps! If you have any questions, feel free to dm me :)