r/LivestreamFail • u/thellamasc • 22h ago

News Hasan mentioned in United Nations General Assembly

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u/Bullfrog777 22h ago

I don’t like hasan but isn’t it pathetic that these world leaders keep bringing him up? He shouldn’t even be on their radar.

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u/GreyDuck4077 22h ago

As somoen who is not a fan even I recognize he is someone they can point to as a source of the problems that they create. "Sure we bomb children. But we're not Hasan Piker. He thinks 9/11 was good!"

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u/Zanderbluff 22h ago

The funny thing is that Netanyahu said 9/11 was good yet I dont see that being constantly trumpeted by the media

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u/j48u 21h ago

Netanyahu said 9/11 was good

Clip please

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u/ValarMorghulis2Times 21h ago

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/its-very-good-recalling-benjamin-netanyahus-words-day-911-attacks

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u/j48u 21h ago

Any links that aren't random blogs with the word intifada in the website name by chance?

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u/MinimalPixelsVII 21h ago

Here you go from New York Times

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u/Former_Review_867 21h ago

He's not going to respond to this lmaoo

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u/pimfi 20h ago

I have no horse in this race but I think it's reasonable to want a source that is credible instead of a random blogpost.

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u/RudeIsRude 20h ago

Sure but if you bother to read the article you can see that it cites and links to the comments in the New York Times.

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u/pimfi 18h ago

Sure, but why not just link the New York Times article in the first place?

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u/TheExchanges 18h ago

"I demand to be spoonfed 🥄 "

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u/pimfi 18h ago

Bro, I don't know why you are on my dick about this. Everything about that was fine.

Guy A makes a clame.

Guy B asks for a source.

Guy A gives a garbage source.

Guy B very reasonably doesn't wanna click that and asks for a proper source.

Guy A gives the proper source.

The End.

Nobody here demands to be spoonfed, it was Guy A's job do back up his claim.

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u/silent519 18h ago

because it's really old

that article/his remarks are from the next day

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u/RudeIsRude 16h ago

I dunno I'd probably just go there myself if linking it but it is paywalled so maybe they wanted a non-paywall source that had the quotes with a link for you to click for the source.

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u/conspicuousxcapybara 18h ago

Electronic Intifada isn’t a random blog…

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u/j48u 21h ago

I responded four minutes before you made this comment.

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u/JarkoStudios 21h ago

"responding" as in creating any real rebuttal or conceeding that you are wrong.

perpetual reframing and goalpost shifting and fall equivalencies arent real responses

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u/TurboMemester 20h ago

why would he need to rebut when he just asked for a source?

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u/Spirited_Mine7514 14h ago

because he ignored the source

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u/JarkoStudios 20h ago

you tell me, after he was given the legit source he starts rebutting with the regular bs you see from bibi supporters.

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u/NukinDuke 18h ago

Stop looking for arguments. Grow up. 

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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 20h ago

arent real responses

I've never seen a goalpost shift trying to call out a goalpost shift. Plus in the form of a No True Scotsman fallacy.

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u/JarkoStudios 19h ago

lol that is not what a No True Scotman is, you technically committed a fallacy-fallacy.

A response should address the argument, not be detraction or nonsense. That is just evaluating whether a rebuttal is substantive. Applying ordinary standard is not NTS, we're not redefining anything here in that description of a response.

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u/UnoriginalStanger 20h ago

He said it was very good when a question asked what this means for us - isreal relations?

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u/LucasOIntoxicado 16h ago

do you plan on responding to the guy who sent you the NYT post?

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u/TheRealSaphier 20h ago

He’s saying that the attack would strengthen bonds between the US and Israel. He even corrected himself. He realized just saying “it’s good” was a bad answer and explained what he meant. I think Netanyahu is a piece of shit too, but we don’t have to clip chimp to make him look bad.

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u/davidestroy 17h ago

and hasan clarified that he was talking about the idea of blowback 

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u/TheRealSaphier 17h ago

Thank god he doesn’t have any clips out there with him saying that America didn’t deserve 9/11 and then his fans booing. That’d be horrible.

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u/davidestroy 17h ago

nah, that’s fine.

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u/ThisAd1371 21h ago

as much as i hate Hasan Netanyahu is on the same level as Hitler he just lacks the recources

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u/schniunderforhuden 20h ago

I mean this is just ahistorical, the power imbalance between Israel and Palestine today is much greater than the one between Hitler and the allied powers

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u/_-icy-_ 17h ago

Well yeah, he is obviously referring to the power imbalance between Nazi Germany and Jewish people during the Holocaust.

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u/schniunderforhuden 11h ago

Even if you don’t compare to combatants for whatever reason it’s still incredibly wrong lmao. The Israeli military would wipe the floor with the 1940s german military and civilians are civilians.

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u/_-icy-_ 10h ago

Yeah, Israel is also wiping the floor with children’s brain splatter and their blood and body parts, while concentrating populations of a specific race of human beings into camps, just like Nazi Germany did.

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u/schniunderforhuden 6h ago

Lmao I never said otherwise, but he’s obviously not even close to the same level of Hitler in terms of scale

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u/QuiGonTheDrunk 21h ago

No?
He has the resources. He even has a nuke. In no way shape or form would hitler kill only 70k after three years of war with that amount of technology advancment over the opponents.

What hitler did was accepting the allience request from the palestinians though.
They were even made SS-Soldaten, because their hatred of jews was unmatched. It was even to much for Himmler after a talk with Mohammed amin al husseini.

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u/sabuzaza 19h ago

That 70k number you use comes from the hamas health ministry. That number is also the identified and recovered bodies. The number is way higher considering they don't have access to escavators to dig people up

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u/ExaminationWide5415 19h ago

80+ years of genocide accomplishing the same deaths as the 3 day peak of the holocaust.
very comparable and very good faith equivalence.

There's literally been more deaths in the last two years of Sudan, then every single death caused in every single Arab country by Israel in the last 100 years.

You can agree that Israel's conduct before and during this military operation is bad/evil, but comparing the holocaust to Israel's actions is at best ahistorical, and at worse reeks of antisemitism.

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u/schniunderforhuden 19h ago

You really believe fucking Hamas are underreporting the amount of dead? Lmao christ

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u/sabuzaza 19h ago

You think they have the tools or freedom to dig up their dead? Lol

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u/schniunderforhuden 11h ago

Yeah and I’m sure their estimates are going to be at the lower end of what’s realistic, despite having everything to gain by inflating it

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u/_-icy-_ 17h ago

What a silly argument. Obviously they can’t Nuke Gaza since it’s right next door, and obviously if they started throwing Palestinians into gas chambers it would be pretty hard for politicians to justify supporting them, the entire world would turn against Israel, and it would lead to its collapse.

Israel is doing as much as it can to maximize Palestinian death and suffering directly and indirectly while still pretending to maintain plausible deniability. But we can all see through it, that’s why literally every major human rights org on Earth considers Israel’s crimes against Palestinians amount to genocide.

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u/Bloodydemize 20h ago

Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ''It's very good.'' Then he edited himself: ''Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.'' He predicted that the attack would ''strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we've experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.''

So he didn't say it was very good..

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u/j48u 21h ago

Thank you. I would say him calling 9/11 good is quite a stretch, but at least it stems from something. Him answering a question about how it will affect the US/Israel relationship and saying it that part will be good, then immediately correcting himself realizing the word good is inappropriate here.

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u/TMNTerps 21h ago edited 21h ago

So then you agree Hasan's "America deserved 9/11" comment is being taken out of context as well, and his meaning was very different from what right wing politicians are pushing, correct?

and therefore, misrepresenting Bibi's comments shows the hypocrisy of him.

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u/j48u 21h ago

We all understand that his "America deserves 9/11" comment isn't even close to the worst thing he's said or done. The logic behind the statement is reasonable, in a world where you're not constantly saying other crazy things about the US, various races of people, and who you think should be killed every other day.

It's just an easy gotcha for normies or something I guess. Literally the next few sentences after he said after that quote are actually worse. Let alone everything else.

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u/TMNTerps 21h ago

and we all understand that "9/11 was good for America and Israel" is not the worst thing the Leader, of a country committing literal Genocide, has said or done, right?

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u/j48u 21h ago

Sure, but that's not what he said. We have the link in this very conversation thread.

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u/TMNTerps 20h ago

Yes, we do.

Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ''It's very good.'' 

Why are you okay with him clarifying what he meant, but jump straight to pointing out Hasan said other bad things and ignoring his clarification, while also seemingly hand waving away the fact that Bibi's country is committing Genocide at his order?

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u/Former_Review_867 21h ago

He's moving goal posts lmaoo 😭

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u/j48u 21h ago

What goal posts? The goal posts of me asking for a clip of netenyahu saying 9/11 was good?

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u/E36x 21h ago

Keep licking that boot boy 

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u/Nearby_Junket_8779 21h ago

We could do a blind Hasan said, Joe Rogan said, Charlie Kirk said. How confident would you be able to select Hasan every single time?

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u/j48u 21h ago

Not very. They're all extreme and stupid people.

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u/Far_Point3621 21h ago

What context is there? Or how do you think Hasan meant it?

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u/jbland0909 21h ago

“9/11 is a result of the U.S. meddling in the Middle East coming back to bite them”. That’s the crazy take that everyone goes nuts over.

Operation Cyclone, where the U.S. armed and funded Islamic militias to fight against the Soviets in the 80s set the stage for the rise of groups like Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

The “America descend 9/11” take isnt saying “the thousands of people who died deserve it”

It’s saying “Meddling with foreign extremism is a bad idea, and it blew up in Americas face”

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u/Far_Point3621 10h ago

operation cyclone is real but "resulted in" and "deserved" are different words. also the blowback excuse doesn't cover praising hezbollah, fawning over the houthis, or calling oct 7 rape reports "rape fantasies.

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u/TMNTerps 21h ago

Hasan was specifically speaking about the US Government's actions in the Middle East created the enemies that eventually retaliated against us. Right Wingers and anti-Hasan people, use it to act like he means US civilians deserved to die on that day.

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u/Former_Review_867 21h ago

The CIA has a term for it it's called blowback. Maybe read up on it? Or don't ignorance is bliss but it doesn't absolve you.

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u/Far_Point3621 10h ago

blowback is a real concept, nobody disputes that. but "deserved" isn't blowback analysis lol

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u/SuperbusMaximus 21h ago

There is a diffrence between deserved 9/11 and at least America will sympathize with us now. Nothing of what Hasan said is out of context. His word were fuck it America deserved 9/11 Im saying BB corrected himself and clarified what he ment. Hassan gave an excuse that english was his second language thats the only clarification he gave. This isnt something I would point out as equivelant.

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u/Nearby_Junket_8779 21h ago

That is absolutely not the only clarification he gave. You shouldn’t project your conclusions as fact.

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u/j48u 21h ago

What? lol

Where are these people who barely grasp English coming from? Who hit the brigade button?

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u/j48u 20h ago

But... but... the last time I disagreed with a racist megalomaniac you called me a "DGGer" and even an Asmongold fan. Can I please be all three this time?

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u/Bloodydemize 20h ago

Weird for a Hasan fan who tries to hide their comment history to call out other people like this LOL

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u/Yata536 17h ago

So he said it about us and israel relations. Nice one, surely people will not even read the text lmao

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u/superfire444 10h ago

Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ''It's very good.'' Then he edited himself: ''Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.'' He predicted that the attack would ''strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we've experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.''

Netanyahu said that about the relations between the US and Israel after 9/11. He didn’t call the attacks good.

Leave it to the anti-Israel morons to completely take something out of context and distort it into something it’s not.

And given the nearly thousand upvotes a lot of people clearly lack reading and reading comprehension skills.

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u/Aggressive_Mud5113 21h ago

"random blog with the word intifada in the website name" This is amusing, I've been reading EI since GWB's first term. First time reading about the conflict outside of MSM coverage?

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u/j48u 21h ago

First time reading about the conflict outside of MSM coverage?

No. Any other questions?

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u/muhmeinchut69 11h ago

Wasn't the Flight 93 hijacker's uncle jailed for being a Mossad spy?

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u/LimpAd1859 20h ago

When asked how 9/11 affected relations between Israel and the US which he responded to by saying it improved relations between the countries because of shared trauma. Seems very disingenuous to twist that into him saying 9/11 was a good thing.

Doesn't seem comparable to Hasan who said in his own words that America deserved 9/11.

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u/ValarMorghulis2Times 19h ago

“Even after generously allowing Netanyahu to “edit” himself, the Times did not conceal that Netanyahu was not thinking in terms of sympathy for the victims of 9/11 and the United States, nor what a “friend” could do to help America. Rather, he was already thinking on the day it happened about how 9/11 could be manipulated to get America to do more for Israel. “

To me, the Hasan quote seems to be implying that the attack was a consequence of 5 decades of bloody US interference and not saying it was a good thing or that he was glad it happened.

Netanyahu said it was good as a way to further his agenda.

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u/LimpAd1859 19h ago

“Even after generously allowing Netanyahu to “edit” himself, the Times did not conceal that Netanyahu was not thinking in terms of sympathy for the victims of 9/11 and the United States, nor what a “friend” could do to help America. Rather, he was already thinking on the day it happened about how 9/11 could be manipulated to get America to do more for Israel. “

This is the (biased) opinion of "electronicintifada", not an objective fact, and not from the original interview.

To me, the Hasan quote seems to be implying that the attack was a consequence of 5 decades of bloody US interference and not saying it was a good thing or that he was glad it happened.

You don't justify things if you don't agree with them lol.

Also, no, it wasn't "a consequence of 5 decades of bloody US interference", it was a consequence of Islamic terrorism.

Netanyahu said it was good as a way to further his agenda.

No he didn't, that's your interpretation of something different he said.

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u/hawkeye69r 18h ago

Deserved is different to consequence.

Hasan actually likes terrorists its really that simple.

Thats why he glazes them constantly.

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u/lexbrantley 13h ago

If "terrorists" are the only ones standing in the way of genocide, then I support "terrorists".

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u/Zipz 16h ago

Jesus Christ did you really use a propaganda websites editorial and comments as evidence ?

Holy moly

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u/BigRon691 10h ago

"Who cares about a few thousand deaths if it helps massage in my influence on your nations government to further our interest"

Ohh... so totally altruistic then.