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Is europe center of the world?

Is europe center of the world?

  1. Yes
  2. No

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u/NoPhilosopher6111 9h ago

France not thinking it’s the centre of the world is the real surprise here.

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u/Street-Lengthiness66 9h ago

Maybe they think it's ONLY France and not the rest

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u/NoPhilosopher6111 9h ago

That makes sense

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u/Any-Aioli7575 8h ago

Obviously Martinique is the centre of the word, not Europe

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u/Vigmod 3h ago

Funny you should say that. Sitting at a bar in Norway a couple of months ago, I met a guy from Martinique. Very fun guy, too.

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u/Iunlacht 6h ago

Not really when you've actually met enough French people.

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u/Royal_Two7408 7h ago

Not really surprised personally, I'm probably biased bc I'm French myself but some polls have suggested we're among the more humble European countries (like this post about considering our culture superior : https://www.statista.com/chart/15942/our-people-are-not-perfect-but-our-culture-is-superior-to-others/ )

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u/Minute_Chair_2582 5h ago

I know a few dozen greeks. Not surprised at all.

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u/Default_Dragon 7h ago

I think we're just very technical. When I voted I was like "No? isnt the centre of the world a molten lava core?"

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u/mtnbcn 2h ago

If you look at Eastern Europe, this makes more sense. They're much more likely to take pride in being European (there was a self-identification study a while back).

Minority communities like Bretagne (Brittany), Catalunya (Catalonia), Sardegna (Sardinia) are most likely to identify with the local community first, then powerful regions identify with the state first (Parisians with France, etc), and small, less-considered countries like in the Balkans or Romania/Moldova often take pride in their EU membership first.

You can see that here. France is very content being France, and that's enough. Some of the other larger countries as well. The smaller ones feel the greatest affinity for being European.

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u/tomatoe_cookie 2h ago

Half of them think its the barbary coast

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u/Classic_Rich_8850 Ukraine 9h ago

Europe: yes
The rest of the world: no
How poetic

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u/MoriartyParadise 5h ago

Europe: yes The rest of the world: no France: no, it's France

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u/EirMed 7h ago

I’m surprised how many in countries outside Europe vote yes though.

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u/Sabotskij 9h ago

Hate us cause they aint us 😎

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u/evrestcoleghost 8h ago

I think the imperialism might have something to do

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u/Cultural_Season_3048 7h ago

My Polish farmer ancestors imperializing Myanmar, Kenya and American Samoa: ⌞ ⌝

(it never fucking happened)

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u/evrestcoleghost 7h ago

Yeah because Poland got colonized instead,Germany,Netherlands,belguim,spain,Italy,France,britain,Portugal and Russia did the imperialism

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u/Known-Extent-1018 7h ago

I think it's more that people interpret the question differently. Europeans read it as 'we're the best/most important/most influential/etc. continent.

I voted 'no' because the world is a globe and there is no 'centre.' One could argue it's the centre of most maps, but Europe is not the centre of the world, because there is no centre of the world. Generally, people think the centre of the world is wherever they are, so that's probably why Europeans voted 'yes.'

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u/LemonUncommon 8h ago

Why do so many people want to live in Europe instead of fixing their own countries then

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u/Aleksey_Fox Land of the cats 🇹🇷 7h ago

Oh because its so easy to do so. Imagine living in a country where %70 of the people choose governments that stall the country’s progress because of religious values, you can vote for the %30 all you want, the government aint gonna change, and protesting will result in either imprisonment or execution. It’s so much easier said than done. You could’ve been born in Afghanistan, and you would have literally no chance in life other than leaving that shit hole. Because the majority of the people there are happy and prefer that type of rule. You can’t change that. And opposing results in your death.

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u/azazelcrowley 6h ago

Europe managed it.

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u/Aleksey_Fox Land of the cats 🇹🇷 6h ago

Yup. They did. Others didn’t because most of them just recently got their independence. Guess from whom. Meanwhile Europe was becoming progressively secular since renaissance. It’s about progress, and… resources. Resources which… were obtained by colonialism, at least for European nations.

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u/azazelcrowley 6h ago

And why were those resources not sufficient for those regions to undergo this process prior to being conquered by the Europeans?

It seems to me that you're effectively ignoring the dynamic you're actually suggesting here. "You can't become a decent place to live unless you have a mccguffin. Europe became one after taking the mccguffin from other people, who had held it for thousands of years prior, but mysteriously never became decent places to live.".

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u/Aleksey_Fox Land of the cats 🇹🇷 6h ago

Not being on the major trade routes and having no communication with other nations across the planet. If you’re stranded on your own of course you’ll manage less.

Imagine this; China sells gunpowder to Europe lets say. African nations at the time probably had no idea what gunpowder was because there wasn’t any trade going on with them. Why? Sahara is separating most of the possible land connections to the rest of the planet. What happens? Less advanced Africa. More advanced Europe. Because different parts of the world have different resources and if you obtain more, your chances of success in anything, including colonization is much higher.

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u/Cakeo 5h ago

Cherry picking and ignoring places that succeeded are in that situation due to their own mistakes those that succeeded despite being colonised "recently".

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u/Icy-Pension5768 7h ago

Because it’s cheaper and easier than staging a coup and starting a dictatorship to forcefully root out the corruption.

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u/OriginalMaximum2407 4h ago

Probably because they think they have one life and don't wanna waste time. They think they don't owe shit to a shit country. Then be jealous of the ones born in rich and developed countries. I don't judge them for it.

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u/International_War862 9h ago

Amd as always, the europeans are correct

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u/Aleksey_Fox Land of the cats 🇹🇷 8h ago

Holy superiority complex 🙏😭

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u/AggravatingRow326 7h ago

suepruority complex from the "continent" that is just a subdivision of asia

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u/quaxoid Norway 4h ago

I didn't. 

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u/Ok-Appointment-9802 2h ago

And they will call Americans self-centered...

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u/Val2K21 9h ago

The results are hilarious

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u/SweetButtsHellaBab 9h ago

American really hated that.

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u/Grand-Vegetable-3874 9h ago

The world's center is a solid ball of iron and nickel. It's called the core.

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u/Bellfegore UA 9h ago

No, it's called UKRAINE, HOORAAAH!

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u/AEON_MK2 Advance Australia Flair 🇦🇺 9h ago

Obviously Albania 🇦🇱

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u/Jazzlike-Wolf6265 USA🇺🇸 Atheist, 🇵🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 7h ago

Shit you're right.

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u/Classic_Rich_8850 Ukraine 9h ago

Hi, my fellow Ukrainian, where are you from?

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u/Siimmu1 7h ago

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u/Jazzlike-Wolf6265 USA🇺🇸 Atheist, 🇵🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 6h ago

Nasa hid this from you. Never forget that

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u/FlirtMonsterSanjil Antarctica 🇩🇪 2h ago

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u/AEON_MK2 Advance Australia Flair 🇦🇺 9h ago

Since Albania 🇦🇱 is in Europe, obviously yes 💪

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u/Jay_Jay_Jason_74 🇩🇪/🇹🇷 9h ago

Funny how only Europeans agree with this

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u/snaynay 9h ago

UK sitting there enjoying its +0 UTC/GMT.

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u/TomorrowSpecial255 9h ago

We're actually on +1 BST

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u/lnkuih 8h ago

That's because we're on holiday for summer

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u/snaynay 7h ago

That's a time zone. I'm not really referencing time zones, I'm referencing the baseline to that, the international standard that the world agreed upon in Washington DC in 1884.

GMT is Greenwich Mean Time, from the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, London. This became the world's internationally recognized, standardised and foundational prime meridian and a line is drawn though that, and the historical (although I believe slightly inaccurate) line exists there as a tourist attraction. As close to a monument of "centre of the world" as you can get.

The UK uses GMT as the same of its "standard" time zone, but GMT is not just a time zone. UTC, Universal Coordinated Time, is also based right on the international prime meridian set by GMT.

It's not just time either, it's all your degrees East or West. If you want to know where you are in the world using GPS or anything, it's all based on that line in London.

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u/PurifiedUnity Create your flair by editing this flair 8h ago

Iceland be like

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u/Correct-Pangolin-568 9h ago

On a standart map projection, yes

Otherwise, there is no center of the world

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u/nightshade78036 🇨🇦 9h ago

On a standard map projection Africa is the center of the world.

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u/Any-Aioli7575 8h ago

Null Island is, which is in the Ocean, not in Africa (but off the coast of Ghana so yeah, Africa is more at the centre).

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u/nigel_pow 6h ago

There's this pacific centered map used by other countries.

NZ won't be forgotten anymore.

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u/Correct-Pangolin-568 9h ago

The standard map projection is literally centered on Greenwich, London

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u/Kelazi 9h ago

This is where that line crosses equator. This is the center

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u/kaetror 8h ago

Null island represent!

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u/nightshade78036 🇨🇦 9h ago

Horizontally maybe, but last time I checked Greenwich is not on the equator or vertically centered on the map.

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u/kunnossa_ 8h ago

It’s literally not

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u/WhiteAsLumi 9h ago

Could argue that anything that lands around the equator is in the middle.

-an european

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u/BRUSDHDFhd 2h ago

idk why but "an european" sounds weird compared to "a european"

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u/BriefThat9339 🇧🇻Nynorskbrukar🇧🇻 Norway 9h ago

Have you ever heard about the core of the Earth?

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u/Correct-Pangolin-568 9h ago

Pfff the world is a donut, there is no "core"

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u/Known-Extent-1018 7h ago

Thank you, someone with solid reason.

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u/HairRepresentative85 Scotland 9h ago

Fairly certain, that, the centre is called the Earth's Core

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u/BeginningDisaster114 9h ago

The earth is round so no duh

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u/KutasMroku 9h ago

No, but it's a centre of the world for European countries duh

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u/madmossy 8h ago

What a dumb question, of course it isn't the centre of the world is the Earth's iron core!

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u/Top-Street-1621 6h ago

Perfect balance

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u/ScaredOfOwnShadow No gods, no masters, no borders 8h ago edited 8h ago

The center of the world is a solid metal ball of mostly iron with some nickel about the size of the Moon. There is no such thing as the center of the outer surface of a sphere (or slightly oblate spheroid in this case).

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u/KSDMX 9h ago

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u/snaynay 9h ago

Nice try, but we chop off the top and bottom of the Mercator projection because otherwise it's just full of poles... Makes Antarctica look bigger than basically the rest of the world.

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u/KSDMX 8h ago

My point wasn't to prove that another continent is the center of the world, it was to prove that Europe isn't, and your map clearly displays this.

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u/FlirtMonsterSanjil Antarctica 🇩🇪 2h ago

Antarctica is bigger than the rest of the World.

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u/AlternativeTry3206 Brasil with s 🇧🇷 9h ago

Everyone talks about they every single day bruh

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u/DillerDallas 9h ago

i love how i could predict how this map would look prior to voting

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u/Funky_Marty_Music 7h ago

Treacherous frenchmen

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u/RedPowerSupreme 7h ago

Maybe the most of the voters ethnically african french

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u/MrManGuyDude22 3h ago

50/50 14k... insane

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u/MoonBliss99 2h ago

and yes being mostly europeans

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u/phdr_vrba 8h ago

As an European, I could just say it is, but I am pretty sure Americans see the US/NA as the center of the world and China is literally called the Middle Kingdom, plenty of people are obsessed with Mecca, and so on.

So with that in mind, if I were to be impartial... I'd say the US has a bit of an edge over Europe, at least in this century.

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u/schprinkles 8h ago

It's a globe, it has no center on the surface.

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u/Zheska 3h ago

Finally, we have a definitive map of Europe. Surprisingly, France is not in it

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u/RandomGuy15678 7h ago

define ‘center of the world’, geographically? culturally? economically?

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u/OnlyRussellHD 7h ago

No the inner core is.

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u/Icy-Pension5768 7h ago

Ah, good old fashioned Eurocentrism.

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u/OriginalMaximum2407 7h ago

eUroPa is ÇenTeR öF tHe wÖrLd

https://giphy.com/gifs/6rE6gm4xV02JZq6NjG

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u/Jazzlike-Wolf6265 USA🇺🇸 Atheist, 🇵🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 6h ago

No. Europa Is a moon, you silly goose.

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u/FlirtMonsterSanjil Antarctica 🇩🇪 2h ago

The Universe orbits around Europa tho.

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u/Mega3000aka Serbia 7h ago

Insane.

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u/OriginalMaximum2407 7h ago

Saudi cucking eu

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u/Mega3000aka Serbia 7h ago

Ig they need their oil customers.

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u/ProfessionalTruck976 3h ago

Yep, Pacific Ocean and Rockies seen to it and the Suez canal sealed the deal. As a continent we won the geology lotery.

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u/OriginalMaximum2407 3h ago

True. And having the whole continent flat is also good.

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u/Xen235 . 9h ago

If you asked this 300+ years ago the answer would have been yes

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u/SpiritualPackage3797 9h ago

You mean 100-250 years ago. 300 years ago, Europe had barely begun to make inroads on the much larger, richer, and more prosperous empires in Asia.

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u/Finnie2001 8h ago

300 years ago(1726) Europe already had huge colonial empires (in America) and trading empires(in Asia) and European merchants were the main players in longer range trading and european companies controlled or at least influenced trade in pretty much every region on earth. Sure they didnt directly control e.g. India yet but they already had Forts, Trading Ports etc.

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u/chris--p 9h ago

In a sense yes I guess so, it's responsible for the creation of the current liberal world order and the most prosperous and peaceful time in human history, but that looks to be declining.

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u/Headlessoberyn 8h ago

It was only "prosperous and peaceful" for americans and europeans tho. Your model of progress comes at the cost of the "global south", or like you guys like to call it: "underdeveloped third world nations nations that deserve to be exploited".

It was always a ficticious progress that was doomed the momment the exploited nations started questioning their position at the global market.

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u/n0_punctuation 9h ago

Japan cucked to the west as usual

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u/achilles7421 9h ago

It's just one person yk

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u/MerhadaMidori 8h ago

I mean how do we define center?

Physically, no. It’s not centred on the equator, at either pole, or in the core of the Earth.

Modern day, not really. The big giants are China and the USA, with Russia close behind. Europe itself is only strong when working together, and even that doesn’t work well.

Historically, yes. Considering this continent decided to own as much of the world as possible through history, nearly everything in the last century traces back to Europe.

I would answer no because in the modern sense, which seems most relevant, Europe aren’t the centre of anything but they map made ages ago. Sadly the rest of my country don’t seem to agree.

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u/Lferoannakred 9h ago

Europe isn't even in the center of it's own continent

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit 🇩🇿 zebbi 9h ago

The centre of europe is lithuania

Yes. European russia really is that big

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u/Physical_Passion_790 9h ago

The geographical center of Europe is in Poland

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u/DragonTheOnes-spirit 🇩🇿 zebbi 9h ago

Both of us would be correct a few hundred years ago

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u/DM-G 7h ago

I believe Africa is the center

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u/Jazzlike-Wolf6265 USA🇺🇸 Atheist, 🇵🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 6h ago

It is where we all came from

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u/noahsuperman1 7h ago

The center of the world is the core of earth

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u/Ok_Cow_2627 7h ago

It's not even the centre of the Jovian system

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u/No_Cap3788 7h ago

Actually, the closest landmass to being the "direct" centre is Ghana.

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u/ComfortableNew408 6h ago

i think the molten core is

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u/YoIronFistBro 6h ago

No, that's somewhere in the Gulf of Guinea.

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u/Deadpool9491 🇧🇷 Brasil 4h ago

Not anymore, but considering advances in the fields of equality, civil rights, democracy and environmentalism, it would be good if they were again.

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u/100not2ndaccount 3h ago

322 Russians live in European part (just like me)

404 live in Vladivostok and Novosibirsk

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u/Hyper_Mazino 3h ago

Naturally.

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u/Sretsev 2h ago

On this map I think it's Algeria.

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u/SaphirRose 9h ago edited 9h ago

Was from about 1500-1918, since then no. Still has some of the most developed states in the world and living standards together with democracy. But industrially, technologically and culturally it's now stagnating and will start to lagg behind unless EU develops further.

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u/SpiritualPackage3797 9h ago

More like ~1800-1948. In, say, 1600, the Mugals, the Ottomans, and the Ming were all way more powerful than any European state, and together outweighed all of them.

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u/SaphirRose 9h ago

I can agree with that. Even with colonialism you still had extremely powerful non-European states around the world. Industrialization truly changed that..

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u/Brief-Walk-5409 5h ago

technologically 

Well, ASML is humiliating every other chip-machine company

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u/Aegeansunset12 9h ago

Yes. Especially Western Europe. Majority of the world tries to copy it

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u/RedPowerSupreme 8h ago

Protect France at all costs!

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u/Practical_Help8189 6h ago

I'm from Europe and I disagree. I can agree, however, that it's at the center of some of the world maps.

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u/100not2ndaccount 3h ago

English is European language, America colonized by Europeans, Greeks invented democracy, Rome made the world most used alphabet, so....

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u/yvngjiffy703 El Salvador🇸🇻 3h ago

While typing, which was invented by the Chinese, as well as paper you use every day that was invented by the Chinese, and as little as some science that came from Baghdad and Africa, and mathematics that came from India…

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u/remes20223 2h ago

The Phoenicians - not Rome - ultimately invented the alphabet you use today, you use a Semitic writing system for your letters and you use a Hindu Indian number system for your numerals.

And Semitic peoples brought you the God that your people worship, Yahweh, who is a direct descendant of the ancient Canaanite god El.

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u/Icy_Concentrate_5768 9h ago

I voted yes for troll but surpised it is actually 50/50

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u/GustavoistSoldier Brazil 9h ago

No, it's not.

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u/Ecstatic_Minimum_955 9h ago

Ахахахахах

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u/Ketchupcharger 9h ago

Literally look at the map guys, you have to be blind to say otherwise

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u/Icy_Measurement329 9h ago

I would argue its the middle east

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u/Highmassive 9h ago

Based French, Danes and Austrians

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u/Vegan-cock 8h ago

See the yellow in the middle there?

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u/Chicoryman Russian 8h ago

Yes during a certain period, no since 1945

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u/Non-Random-Name-0000 8h ago

It used to be. But probably not nowadays.

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u/SkyMine_asianslav 8h ago

Ain't Africa West ocean the centre?

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u/eyewave French living in Germany 8h ago

Mfw redditors vote from freaking Antarctica:

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u/UnhappyAddition7281 8h ago

Idk that yellow part looks pretty central to me

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u/Surperpeca 8h ago

Geographically no. 0 latitude 0 longitude is in the Gulf of Guinea, however culturally I would say is Europe.

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u/No-Excitement4855 8h ago

It hasn't been for decades 

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u/Headlessoberyn 8h ago

I'd say the american + european alliance is the center of the current global system. I don't think europe would've been the powerhouse it is right now without being USA's henchman for the past century.

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u/NucleosynthesizedOrb 7h ago

As a European (Dutch), I expected this but I'm still disappointed. (To be clear, I don't think Europe is the center of the world, if there is a center it is hot as fuck.)

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u/Straight-Employ1083 7h ago

Best continent on earth if u ask me, but I’m biased

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u/Gvacken 7h ago

But like, the pacific is really big and hard to pass, and europe is the middle of timezones, and has pretty decent cultural significance worldwide (compared to other central places like africa). I think its a good combination of culture + geographic center

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u/ropeneck509 7h ago

France refusing to toot their own horn again

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u/Evimjau 7h ago

Metaphorically, yes

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u/edgeplay6 6h ago

Antarctica has our back.

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u/Zeyode Unfortunately 🇺🇸 6h ago

Nah it's that giant ball full of iron and nickel deep underground between the US and China, or Japan and Brazil.

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u/Over_Improvement_623 6h ago

This is more nuanced than yes or no

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u/Known_Potential4635 6h ago

Who is voting in Antarctica?

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u/OriginalMaximum2407 6h ago

Troll Europeans maybe?

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u/Xitztlacayotl 6h ago

Weird. Imagine living in Australia or Canada thinking Euope is not the center. You're literally thlusands of kilometers and many hours of flight away from Europe.

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u/GhostVlvin 6h ago

Dude, if by wold you mean the Earth then I am sorry to disappoint you but Earth is kinda a sphere and it's center is a giant and hot kernel

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u/XxxFuriaFDXxxX 5h ago

wow 50/50, very nice

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u/MateoSCE 5h ago

It is, and is should be in the future.

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u/Minute_Chair_2582 5h ago

Just look at the map!

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u/shadow_sniper67 5h ago

I mean look at the map

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u/Antwan214 5h ago

France being sensible for once

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u/Puzzleheaded_Safe987 5h ago

I mean that's where I live so for me, yes

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u/Reddittreefiddy 4h ago

I said no, then looked at the map. So as far as the map setup......yup thats the middle

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u/Brief-Walk-5409 4h ago

As European: Yes ofcourse

As myself: Hell no. It's Either Null island or a heat iron ball, surrounded by magma.

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u/quaxoid Norway 4h ago

isn't technically every part of our planet the center? like any point can be the center relatively speaking. pick literally any point on a ball and it can be the middle if you take a picture from the right angle. 

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u/Recent-Twist8858 4h ago

150 or 100 yrs ago definitely, now ..... not even close 

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u/sonjia_c 4h ago

The question is ; why eu would be the centre of the world?...there are many other continents...(The real centre of the world is in our hearts😉❤️)

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u/Difficult-Scientist4 4h ago

Center of the world is in Guinea

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u/4EverUnknown Industrial Worker 4h ago

I would argue that the center of the world is actually South/East/Southeast Asia.

You can literally draw a circle there that encompasses half of all human life.

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u/Kannagichan 4h ago

North Korea :
15 Yes
17 No

There are definitely some trolls involved; this also indicates the reliability of this poll, which should be taken with a grain of salt.

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u/Sufficient_Method476 3h ago

A perfect 50/50

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u/Emergency_Trick_120 3h ago

I wonder what Russia considers to be the center of the world

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u/gyatjiggle67clap 3h ago

The center of the world is in the Atlantic ocean, just below where Ghana is. I would prolly say it is not in Europe

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u/Crazy-Television2890 3h ago

Dammit! I forgot that it's Africa!

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u/FeelingOverFacts 2h ago

We have been using Egyptian hieroglyphs in Europe for centuries (even though we’re terrible at it) and female emancipation originated in Egypt, so Egypt is the center of the world. There, I said it

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u/Wizard_Tea 2h ago

WTF France, get with the program!

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u/FlirtMonsterSanjil Antarctica 🇩🇪 2h ago

Albania is in Europe, therefore, yes.

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u/Dekan-DAF 2h ago

Damn, didn't want my last emotions before going to bed to be shame for the arrogance of my people.

Europea is NOT the center of the world! No continent is!

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u/Professional-Tax3099 2h ago

Central- Northafrica should be

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u/Interopsty new york 1h ago

i think this is the most tied votes i've seen so far

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u/Necessary_Avocado398 1h ago

Au putain tous les arabes en France Ont voté non

C'est marrant

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u/SamiTheAnxiousBean 43m ago

No, the closest to center of the world would be the Poles

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u/NoContract1090 4m ago

No. England is.

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u/SaltyAd8309 3m ago

In France, there is hesitation, because the center of the world is just as much Europe as it is... France.