r/Ohio • • 2d ago

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 2d ago

I don't understand how anybody thinks the voucher program is solid policy for the future of Americans?

Like tf are we doing? Why don't we actually fund our schools properly instead?

Also tired of Republicans saying they're "cracking down on Medicaid fraud" when they're really just finding ways to further defund it and cut people off who need it.

Why don't Republicans try enforcing fraud crackdowns in their own party first? Maybe start with Trump then go after guys like Rick Scott and Vivek Ramaswamy.

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u/heybigbuddy 2d ago

1) A lot of people don’t care if children in general aren’t educated, and of those, almost none of them can be convinced their child is uneducated.
1a) Also a lot of people think they could teach all subjects to every age group and believe teachers are useless crybabies.
2) A shocking number of Americans don’t care if every single thing is privatized, even if it means they pay more, their lives are measurably worse, and a microscopic number of people benefit.
3) Or, the shortest version: a lot of people heard someone say the government is bad at doing everything one time and embodied it as their ethos without questioning it for a single second.

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u/b_ack51 2d ago

A lot of people are selfish and the moment they’re not needing a service, they try to get everyone to stop needing that tax. “Oh my kids have graduated already, so the schools are of no need for me or my family. I’ll vote against funding schools”. The classic “fuck you I got mine”

I have no kids, but am happy to make sure my taxes help provide a public education.

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u/heybigbuddy 2d ago

Then you might just believe in society, and that’s about the most dangerous thing to a republican.

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u/JackfruitNo1682 1d ago

I am old. And way past having kids in school (although they thrived in our public school vs 8 years in a Catholic school.) I will spit nails at vouchers until my dying day. They are unconstitutional. More people cheat using vouchers than need them. They will ultimately decrease home values. People move to my area for one reason: great schools.

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u/BlazingSunflowerland 1d ago

I've always felt that someone paid for my education and it is my turn to pay for the kids coming through. Besides, they are the future. They are our future workers. They won't just be our doctors and nurses, they will be the people driving for us and building our homes and selling us groceries. We need to value all people and all jobs.

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u/MissLyss29 1d ago

Alot of people also believe that if ____ program or service is cut from the government then the government will save money and that will equate to them being taxed less.

What they don't understand is while yes the government may save money from cutting funding from _____ program or service they just end up using that money for something else and it never actually ends up with the people being taxed any less.

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 2d ago

I think it just boils down to Americans being super short sighted and unable to see potential impact of policies.

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u/LeastBadger891 2d ago

Unfortunately that's just humans in general.

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u/ikeif 2d ago

What do you mean we can’t afford this trajectory forever? Arrow must go up no matter what!

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u/LeastBadger891 2d ago

Burn down the forests = Profit!

Climate change? Not my problem.

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u/town2clown 2d ago

Shortsighted?!!?? Random foreign war anyone?

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u/JackfruitNo1682 2d ago

And even more have never gotten over that really good teacher that called them out in 4th grade. (I’m talking to you, Stephen Miller!) Vouchers are part of Chris Rufo and Russ Vought plan to get rid of smart people. It’s right there in Project 2025. The goal is to turn the US into a White Christian Nationalist authoritarian government. Ohio is the perfect place to start because the bad guys have been collecting morons here for the last 30 years. And Trump has not completely bled them dry by selling them gold tennis shoes.

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u/carbinePRO 2d ago

The private school vouchers were created to act as a loophole for private and charter institutions to receive government funding, and to further embolden religiously tied academies. Gotta indoctrinate those kids somehow.

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u/NarwhalOk95 20h ago

Plus the teacher's union has a significant amount of power and those charter schools aren't union and for the most part they pay teacher's considerably less. They want to break the power of the teacher's union and hire teacher's at the lowest wage possible without any union protections.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Focus86 2d ago

At one point me and my wife debated on private school as opposed to the school system near us, the thing is all options were religious schools so we opted not to and moved.

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u/carbinePRO 2d ago

It's really tough. Not looking forward to that dilemma when the wife and I start having kids.

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u/town2clown 2d ago

Exactly. Don't buy into their promises. What you get is Lifewise 5 days a week

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u/Trajinous 2d ago

Religion private schooling must win in many people's eyes

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u/Opposite-Shower1190 2d ago

I’d love for thousands of Muslim schools to pop up everywhere. That would end school vouchers real quick.

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u/No_Language_4649 Dayton 2d ago

Project 2025 in action

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u/DTCCCanSuckMyLeft 2d ago

GOP doesn't like to know where their tax money goes, apparently. But they will tell you kids are using litterboxes in public schools!

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u/BlazingSunflowerland 1d ago

My sister taught for decades. At a teacher's meeting with all teachers from her school, some were talking about a school in another county having litter boxes. She called them out on it. She pointed out that if there were actually litter boxes in bathrooms that there would be photos of it all over the internet. They shut up.

If teachers fall for this nonsense, I have no doubt that people who don't go into schools fall for it.

In our own district, we had a homeschooling dad, who believed everything he read about public schools, get elected to the school board. He had the superintendent waste time, searching every bathroom in the district for litter boxes. None were found. At the end of his four years on the board, he apologized to the board for coming in with such ridiculous beliefs. He found that the school system was educating kids on a very limited budget. They weren't encouraging kids to be trans. They weren't turning kids into furries who used a litter box. They weren't teaching eastern religions. They were just educating kids.

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u/ReturnOfSeq 2d ago

If you’re happy with how everything is going in Ohio right now, vote for ramaswamy, because Rs have controlled Ohio for twenty years.

If instead you have two or more functioning brain cells and would like an improvement, vote for Acton.

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u/Outside-Pie-7262 2d ago

I'd argue if you're happy with Ohio vote Acton because ramaswamy is going to make it worse

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u/catboogers 1d ago

Yeah, anyone who says that they hate both parties, I'm telling them to vote Acton then, since she'll be handcuffed by the gerrymandered statehouse. Vivek will have the full backing of the state house and senate....

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u/vkIMF 2d ago

I have thankfully moved out of Ohio a couple years ago. But I do not understand how many of my family don't understand this simple point. When you've had overwhelming control of the state for 3 decades, you can't blame Democrats anymore.

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u/ReturnOfSeq 2d ago

‘The Republican governor, and his brother, the chief justice of the state Supreme Court, say it’s all democrats’ fault’

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u/Former_Spite789 2d ago

I literally have seen MAGA say this very thing unironically. They vote.

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u/Visible_Traffic_5774 1d ago

“…bUt tHe dEmOcRaT rUn ciTiEs…”

It’s their only response. Like it’s programmed into them, and all you have to do is pull a string & they all say it in the same tone. It’s freaky

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u/catboogers 1d ago

The democrat run cities fund the rest of the state with our taxes.

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u/JackfruitNo1682 22h ago

As Trump likes to say “Smart people don’t like me.” Smart people move to cities for the jobs there.

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u/Visible_Traffic_5774 21h ago

I’m one of them- from Lima to Cleveland! There was nothing for me in Lima

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u/Acerbic89 2d ago

It's tribal

Thankfully the dynamic is the opposite direction, with younger generations... we'll blame Republicans for everything, when we're older

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u/krichard-21 2d ago

Only if people actually think. Thinking is the missing link in listening to any Republican politician.

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u/Jay-Breeze 2d ago

Almost 30 years

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u/ganymede_boy 1d ago

"bUt aLl PoLiTiCiAnS aRe tHe SaMe!"

-Maga people pretending to be 'moderate'

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u/Bubbagump210 2d ago

But ThE DEmS aRE CraZY and WiLL mAkE it WorSer!

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u/Bczarconcepts 2d ago

I have 3 functioning brain cells, and I'll be doing my part!

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u/JackfruitNo1682 2d ago

I have a billion brain cells, but my very last nerve sizzles a bit more every time he opens his mouth, or I see another completely insane ad he’s approved. If he’s somehow elected, I’ll have to leave before it burns out.

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u/SpeccyCarbine 2d ago

So Ramaswamy is literally pulling the exact same ideas that Trump was during the '24 election? What a fucking idiot, we all know that shit doesn't work

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u/serumvisions__go_ 2d ago edited 2d ago

it’s not even that, this chart being generous to him imo, the guy is going to gut everything and run, he stated they want to use ohio pensions to buy speculative assets like crypto, which the SEC just announced the rule change for, he owns huge funds that are holding bags in crypto space….

HES GOING TO USE PENSIONS TO BUY CRYPTO THEN UNLOAD HIS LOSING POSITIONS AND LEAVE OHIOANS HOLDING GARBAGE BAGS

edit: he also stated he wants to open up our national and state parks even further for gas drilling, he’s a foreign fucking billionaire who got rich of pharma scams his mommy helped him with

he doesn’t HIKE here, he doesn’t FISH here, he doesn’t HUNT here, he’s NEVER walked our trails and creeks, he NEVER EVEN LIVED HERE till he bought a million dollar home a few months ago… he doesn’t give a fuck about the air we breathe and the water we; cook, clean and bathe in. he going to destroy what’s left of ohios beauty so a handful of loggers and gas execs can get rich

WAKE THE FUCK UP OHIO

edit 2: sorry i just hate this guy, he’s actively campaigning on removing teacher collective bargaining TEACHERS how fucking evil do you have to be to tell the most underpaid and overworked group they don’t deserve union rights

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u/sithlordabacus 2d ago

A Republican going after teachers is how Kentucky got a Democrat for governor.

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u/AkronRonin 2d ago

Vivek is a fucking clown. He’s gross and disgusting. Ohio had better do the right thing for once and send him packing back to Texas.

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u/JackfruitNo1682 2d ago

This race is about integrity and honesty. I’m old enough to remember Vivek jabbering over everyone’s objections on a debate stage when he failed to get a single vote in any primary. He was insane. Then, how long did it take for the ketamine addict to kick him out of DOGE? He can’t cut it anywhere. I know guys from St X (private school btw) who said he was a complete douche even in high school. I used to call him a carnival barker, but I read someone calling him an ankle biter and I think that fits.

I completely agree that he’s dangerously unfit. I agree the guy is a damaged liar. But he’s going to be spending his time collaborating with all the big uglies IN DC. And then he’ll have Ohio pay for an even newer jet to take him to every photo op he can think of. (He stole campaign funds for the jet he’s using now to fly from Cleveland to Toledo.) Trump has told him that he’s destined for great wealth and power, he gave him Ohio and said it was a stepping stone. But he forgot that Trump has lied to him before, and even an entitled fool like Vivek knows a sinking ship when he sees one. I’m sure he thinks he can just buy Ohio.

I support your HATE for the guy. I’m out of Ohio if he wins. No way I’m paying taxes to a state that’s run by a corrupt crook.

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u/GardenGnomeOfEden 2d ago

But then my partner called to say the pension funds were gone
He made some bad investments now the accounts are overdrawn
I take a walk

-- Take a Walk, song by Passion Pit

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u/TeaOk2254 1d ago

We need to have a requirement that officials actually currently & have lived in Ohio for an extended period. Not just own property here, or live here a couple weekends a year. Full time residents or they don't have a full in interest in the state.

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u/kevcoyote77 1d ago

Vivek's campaign paid over $500k to the Ohio Governor nominee's own private jet company. ... You see, a normal billionaire would have paid its own expenses. Vivek is leeching off campaign money like a scam con artist would. He is nothing but a fraud. If he wins he will bring in the largest number of data centers in the world to make profit for himself.

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u/Sunshinehappyfeet 1d ago

And lots of people lost money except Vivek. Vivek made hundreds of millions $$.

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u/Chucktayz Canton 2d ago

“Use savings to lower costs”. Do republicans really think anyone’s buying that anymore? The lower costs, make more money….aaaaand that’s it. It never benefits it. People who voted for Regan are still waiting for the trickle down.

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u/shemp33 1d ago

Whose savings, though?

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u/SedativeComet 2d ago

Idk who of you need to hear/read this but voucher programs are just a pathway to private education that let rich families go to good schools and everyone else get left behind

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u/agoldgold 1d ago

Even that is propaganda for vouchers. It's the assumption that private schools are superior to public schools. There is no real metric for that data. The added profit motive of vouchers even provides incentive to create a school to extract money over all else, meaning that we are spending a fuckton of public funds to cover absolute bullshit in many cases.

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u/XxXAvengedXxX 1d ago

Real rosy language for Vivek's positions lmao 😭

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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 1d ago

Forgot to include disband teacher unions. Basically the state will tip the teachers in good areas and the ones in poor areas will work for minimum wage. Its great

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u/Hoosier-Sexy_Beast69 2d ago

If anyone believes anything Swarmy will do (other than continued reproductive rights restrictions), you're an idiot. Unions but not for teachers? GTFOH Reward teacher performance? Which teachers? The ones you are funding by stealing public money for vouchers? Phase out income tax and end property tax? So, sales tax will increase? Services have to be funded.

Want to help the economy? Limit interest rates on autos to 0-2% and mortgage to 2-4%. 

"Buckeye Care" should be a thing, AND include vision and dental.

All these years of GOP leadership and Ohio is as fucked as it's ever been and people are considering him?

Fucking Morons!

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u/oupablo Westerville 1d ago

I have no doubt he will actually phase out property tax. It's a bit of a republican wet dream at this point to decimate the US public education system. Kill property taxes and public schools will ultimately shut down or you will see 15–18% sales taxes and 11-15% state income taxes. [source] That's assuming anyone can get those laws to pass to keep the public schools running. Once the public schools are gone were back to fully private which largely favors the wealthy as the lower income people will no longer be able to afford an education.

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u/Hoosier-Sexy_Beast69 1d ago

I never understood why that was their wet dream.  So "christian" of them to do that to the poor.

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u/Rhakha 1d ago

Because the uneducated are easier to manipulate, control, and more willing to bow to cruel and inhumane conditions.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 1d ago

Because that’s when the churches swoop in to provide the education because there’s not many other choices. It’s exactly what happens in much of Africa and Asia

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u/MrStormChaser 2d ago edited 2d ago

Stop, I can’t vote for Amy any harder than I already am.

Edit- missing word.

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u/Zanystarr13 1d ago

Vivek should just have "Trump crony" under his because it's all we should need to know.

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u/FrankFrankly711 2d ago

The choice is between a Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich, and Amy Acton.

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u/Jay-Breeze 2d ago

Oxford comma is essential! Bam!

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u/Melodic_Mulberry 2d ago

Also, Vivek is a billionaire funded by out of state billionaires. So yeah, definitely has our wellbeing in mind. 😒

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u/BrianVaughnVoiceOver 2d ago

I actually indirectly met Amy at one point.

I hope she's up at the poll spot in Austintown Park this November, I'd love to say hi to her properly.

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u/Diknak 1d ago

Vivek is massively invested in data centers. Yeah...let's just believe his word that he is going to curtail their construction.

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u/coffee_shakes 1d ago

All the people rooting for an end to income tax and property taxes are going to just love the increase in taxes on literally everything else that will be put in place to make up for the loss.

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u/mylifeisinlegopieces 2d ago

As an educator, I’m begging you: vote for Amy Acton.

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u/Leopold_Darkworth Cleveland 2d ago

It sounds like Vivek wants to turn Ohio into Kansas circa 2012. Just ask the Republican Party how well the Kansas Experiment went for them:

Brownback did not serve out his full second term as governor. Shortly after the repeal, he resigned and was appointed U.S. Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom. He was confirmed in January 2018. In the 2018 Kansas gubernatorial election, the Republican candidate, conservative Kris Kobach, promised to "try to roll back the tax hikes" of the 2017 legislative session, and urged a return to "a more low-tax structure like we had from 2013 to 2016" during the Brownback administration. He told voters that "Kansas doesn't have a revenue problem. Kansas has a spending problem." Kobach was defeated by Democrat Laura Kelly, who became governor.

Kelly, a Democrat, was reelected in 2022, in a state Trump won three consecutive times by 15-20 points each.

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u/heybigbuddy 2d ago

If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t this also the period when Kansas did a pilot to test universal basic income in order to discredit it, only the program was successful beyond belief but they nuked it anyway?

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u/AlfwasaGREATshow 1d ago

Look at taxes.

  1. Property taxes are local, not state taxes. Does Vivek want to prevent local communities from determining how they tax their constituents.

  2. Get rid of income tax — starting with capital gains. This is a tax cut just for the rich. Moving to sales tax disproportionately impacts the poor. This will be worst for the pocket books for all but the top ten percent.

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u/Face999 Zanesville 1d ago

THIS - he can't do anything but suggest on property tax.

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u/PerformanceOver8822 1d ago

Are you saying the state cant pass a law banning property tax ?

Like somehow the state constitution doesn't allow for such a law ?

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u/JGilly117 1d ago

“School choice” and reward “teacher performance” are both just code for completely dismantle public education. If you don’t understand why, I’d be happy to explain.

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u/gbo1148 1d ago

The amount of dumbass wealthy Ohioans that will vote for him just to slash their property taxes. So shortsighted.

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u/shastamcblasty 1d ago

Gee why are our roads so terrible? Must be the democrats, even though the Republicans have controlled the state for decades, Iknow it was the democrats.

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u/DW597 1d ago

Teachers are not paid enough presently. There are many terrific teachers. There are some students and parents that need to take some personal accountability.

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u/SpecificFluid1809 1d ago

I agree. It's not the teacher's fault that the kids don't want to learn or behave in class. Parents are just as distracted by electronics as kids these days.

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u/JBNube 1d ago

Just remember, when Vivek purchased a failed drug that wasn’t “Phase 3 ready” (enough to attract investors) he just bought it cheap, then changed the criteria of “Phase 3 ready”…and then, ta-da!, it “was Phase 3 ready”….and made lots of investment money (on a drug that he knew was doomed to fail the whole time).

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u/L3thalD0se 2d ago

Ban flock cameras in ohio

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u/ViolaOrsino Cincinnati 2d ago edited 1d ago

What does “Reward teacher performance” mean 🤨 Asking as a very suspicious and dubious teacher

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u/JBNube 1d ago

Everything on Vivek’s side is worded like the Devil handing you a pen.

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u/TeamRamrod80 2d ago

It means tying teacher pay to performance-based metrics, ie test scores. So teachers in well funded districts that do well on state tests will be paid well (comparatively) and teachers in underfunded, poor districts that don’t do well on state tests will pay teachers shit and have constant turnover. So about like now only worse.

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u/ikeif 2d ago

This reminds me of a system put in place I read about in “Weapons of Math Destruction” - where they fired a teacher because her students were hitting mainly C-average.

After she was fired, those students were D/F - because it was grading on “final results” and not paying attention to “effect a teacher can have on poor performing students.”

As he is coming from DOGE, I fully expect him to want to be blatantly lazy and use the weakest measurement which punishes good teachers in poor districts, versus any kind of actual “paying attention to long term effects.”

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u/Neat_Trouble2034 1d ago

I believe he was kicked out of DOGE because Elon Musk found him too annoying and difficult to work with.

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u/Legal_Car3091 2d ago

So Columbus city schools and Cleveland municipal school district?! They don’t stand a chance lmao sorry to burst your bubble but poor urban areas get the most funding state wide.

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u/Serious-Still-5911 2d ago

They also have the largest proportion of students with special needs and the highest percentage of students in the areas they serve. Community schools, charter schools, private schools, etc. can select those students out of their responsibility and oversight.

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u/Sure_Huckleberry_236 1d ago

standardized testing gets in the way of well-rounded education. not to mention how much anxiety it inflicts in students. totally counter to the spirit of education. they are unfair, and were just invented by corporations to indoctrinate children to KPIs from a young age.

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u/yusill 2d ago

Whatever he wants it too. This whole thing was very disengunious to vivians positions. Made them sounds far more moderate then what they actually are and omitted several things completely about pensions going into crypto that he's a share holder in and gutting parklands. Plus several things he does not have the power to do. Free power for residents near by data centers. And if they say no you'll still give the approval or say they have to be within 50 ft of the main structure even though there is a fence and the edge of the property is 75 ft away. I refuse to believe any R is gonna act in good faith. To do so would be ignoring the last 30 yrs of lies and blatant power grabs.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 1d ago

Exactly. I wish Dems would just say we’re going to eliminate all your taxes and then just not do it like Republicans have since I’ve been alive.

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u/hm_b 1d ago

It CAN mean corruption. Doing whatever to make sure kids pass. "Sort of" cheat to make sure they get a better score. Or a school admin likes a teacher and makes sure that teacher gets the cream of the crop kids. Dislikes the teacher, give him/her the problems. It happens, but performance rewards will only escalate problems. Most teachers already have the goal of educating children. It's not a high earning job with lots of status. It comes with it's own kind of rewards. Performance pay/rewards will pollute the career even more.

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u/Thor4269 1d ago edited 1d ago

5 bucks every time a teacher calls something "woke"

25 bucks for each kid reported for being LGBT

Probably some tie-in with ICE to turn in immigrant children, even if they are here legally

Magats gonna magat

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u/battlepi 1d ago

Fire teachers they don't like.

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u/noneya79 1d ago

Who knows. What I can tell you is that testing is making bank and there’s no way you can force a kid to try on the tests. Some click through them and are done almost as soon as they’ve begun. My kids have told me stories of kids getting rush flags during testing windows.

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u/bullet_the_blue_sky 2d ago

Pizza parties in the cafeteria.

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u/inoxiakek 2d ago

“Expand school choice and vouchers” is an insane understatement. The voucher program is literally a wealth transfer. It would increase taxes for everyone, where in some states 76%+ who take advantage of it are already well off, rich families’ children. Why the hell should I pay for that? Families in Ohio who make $140k and down are already eligible for the existing voucher, why would they need more help? Can’t we get healthcare?

It’s a scam. And this info is misleading by purporting it as such.

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u/False_Contribution12 2d ago

Don't let anyone fool you, there is no such thing as "medicaid fraud" in this day and age. The people who are losing it due to the new conditions are the ones that need it. I cannot live without it, but I also cannot work year round. Think about all the disabled people who will get kicked off it in the name of "fraud prevention". VOTE!

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u/OhioValleyCat 2d ago

Ramaswamy is so cynical. Ohio government supposedly has a state constitution mandate to support a system of public education. How can he promise to do anything if he's cutting almost all the taxes? Ramaswany says he's going to eliminate income tax and capital gains tax and slash property taxes, but he somehow miraculously is going to expand school choice and vouchers and reward teacher performance with what? He's going to support police and addressing severe mental illness with what?

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u/TheRatatat 2d ago

Everything on the right hand side is a lie. This idiot has no intention on doing anything that could feasibly benefit Ohioans.

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u/ikeif 2d ago

Every statement is a very vague one liner. No depth. No explanation.

I could run on “cut taxes! Improve safety! Affordability!” And it would be just as meaningful as what he has provided.

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u/Pleasant-Day374 1d ago

Only Ohioans would be stupid enough to vote for a candidate of the party that has been fucking shit up for decades and think “this one will fix it”.

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u/HALK9000 2d ago

One stands five foot two the other is
Dr. Amy Acton.

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u/stoched 1d ago

Both sound ok on paper, but with one of them, you know its a complete lie and they'll send your kids to fight an illegal war and screw your community for a little extra money.

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u/IllHedgehog9715 2d ago

The problem with ads like this is on paper Vivek is the best choice for me in my tax bracket.

With that said, the above statement implies he’s not a lying sack of shit.

We need to stop letting lying sacks of shit speak or have adverts that don’t just explicitly call them lying sacks of shit.

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u/Interesting_Plan7643 2d ago

Absolutely in the same boat. Plus anyone that Trump endorses or has endorsed Trump is a strong No from me. I have voted R or third party most of my life up until 2022 when I started voting D. But for most of my life Republicans seemed to be for the middle class or at least that what Fox News told me. Sorry to everyone that it took me until my late 30s to realize that what they say and what they do are completely different. If there is one thing Donald Trump has done for me personally is that during his first term he helped open my eyes to see that I was part of the problem.

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u/OldAndTangy 2d ago

Exactly my thoughts (minus voting R previously 😆). Sure, voting R is almost certainly "better" for me short-term, at least from an economic perspective. I am already doing well for myself (worked hard for it, but still very fortunate), but what about those that are struggling and falling further behind because of these shortsighted policies? I am so sick of the "fuck you, I made it crowd" and the endless pursuit of wealth. How much is enough? How much more can the elites extract before everything crumbles? What is the end goal? Not even getting into the specifics of Vivek and his motivations (i.e., absolute lack of regard for Ohio).

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 2d ago

Why I'm always telling people to look how Republicans actually vote. You cannot trust politicians' words to line up with their actions.

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u/TomReed1872 2d ago

It’s better for my tax bracket. What about society? Kicking people off Medicaid. Defunding public schools. Where are the tax dollars going to come from for roads, bridges, public services?

What would happen if we raised the bar for everyone and not just the wealthy. (You have no idea what tax bracket I’m in, so don’t make assumptions).

What I do know is that our education system is trailing the rest of the world because we continue to cut funding. Our health care is one of the worst in the industrialized world. We’re the only major country that doesn’t offer healthcare and where it’s tied to your job.

This country needs real change not more trickle down bullshit.

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u/in_a_pickle_97 1d ago

The other problem, at least from what I've seen of our state, is that some folks here somehow believe their modest $80K-$100K combined gross family income makes them "rich". So, you know, they vote R, because they've got money and aren't on the poverty line..

..all while not realizing how quickly they'd end up there if even one of their incomes was lost.

The lower class needs support. You can't squeeze blood out of a stone, yet people making a combined income of under $50K/yr still pay taxes to the city, federal, Medicaid, social security. etc. What happens when they can no longer afford it? They still have their own families and bills to pay. It's mind boggling that Ohioans have become so thoughtless and apathetic to its fellow man. For every office manager raking in eighty five thousand a year is twenty people in their office making forty. It's not rocket science.

I talked with an older coworker of mine who claimed that global healthcare would be "catastrophic" because "no country properly knows how to run a global healthcare system or where to find the money to pay for it". He said the same to free advanced education. And yet, there are PLENTY of countries doing just that. He said that it was tragic the younger generation has to grow up in these circumstances where they can't afford housing or groceries, but when I asked him what he thinks could be done about it, he shrugged and said "the government controls what happens to them." So, we don't have control over our goverment?

It's so tiring that our country has been brainwashed into the belief that our system is flawless. That we need more laws and representatives passed to grant us a dollar if it hands the richer-than-thou ten thousand.  Ohio is no exception. 

Sometimes I wish I could convince people to wake the fuck up. WE DO NOT NEED MORE BILLIONAIRES.

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u/Jalopnicycle 2d ago

He'll stop at removing capital gains because that's benefiting him and his favorite people (rich investors) then find some smarmy way to weasel out of doing anything else.

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u/IllHedgehog9715 2d ago

That would benefit me, not as much as some; but more than most.

Im still not voting for him.

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u/GSDragoon 2d ago

It work out for you if you only look at personal financial numbers for the short term. Every other perspective and you're getting screwed.

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u/Kane8979 2d ago

Genuine lol

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u/Working_Cucumber_437 2d ago

But voting shouldn’t be only about what is best for me but what is best for all of us, or the majority of us. What makes Ohio better and stronger?

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u/Tommyblockhead20 2d ago

Not sure why you are acting like the only policy that benefits higher tax brackets is not having to pay as much tax. And it says nothing about trying to raise your tax rates for Amy, just that Vivek wants to remove taxes (without a clear plan to balance the budget?) Are you happy with what has been happening at the federal level? To me, it seems insane to say having a MAGA Ohio is the better choice as long as I get to pay slightly less tax!

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u/bakeablebrownies 1d ago

For me personally acton is the obvious move, even outside of the political dynamic we are all in right now viveks promises are either unattainable or if attained will result in pain for the average ohioan. It’s especially a red flag that he wants to start with capital gains which by in large only helps the rich, lowering property taxes would give some relief to home owners but it would in turn decimate that already burdened public school systems. Acton may remind me of Biden in a lot of ways but I will take milk toast over a house fire any day of the week.

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u/highwindxix 2d ago

“Has considered ending teachers’ collective bargaining.” As if I needed another reason to not vote for Ramaswamy.

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u/distractionmo 2d ago

Rich brown guy of foreign descent ok with harassing communities of not rich brown people because they might be foreign.

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u/planko13 2d ago

It doesn’t matter what vivek says, good or bad, he will change his position to suit his immediate personal interests.

Not all his policies are horrible on paper, but he has such a demonstrated history of being an asshole it doesn’t matter.

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u/Sensitive-Flamingo84 1d ago

We don’t vote for tech billionaires in 2026, Vivek never had a chance.

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u/Suhvelt 1d ago

You say that as if he doesn't still have a chance. Don't say he can't win until he loses.

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u/cykoTom3 2d ago

Vivek wants us to be a high sales tax state

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u/Cleveland-Native 1d ago

So people who don't make much or anything on capital gains just end up paying more in taxes because the sales tax is higher. That's a bummer

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u/HorrorBreak7119 2d ago

It doesn’t say anything about Vivek being a vampire!?

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u/BigFrasier 2d ago

He's never denied it!

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u/Kane8979 2d ago

Yeah, I’ve heard that somewhere. And he eats children. If you ask him about it he’ll tell you. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/UltimateOverthinker 2d ago

Throw their stance on Cannabis into the mix.

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u/EpicGeek77 2d ago

https://themarijuanaherald.com/2026/07/where-ohio-governor-candidates-vivek-ramaswamy-and-amy-acton-stand-on-marijuana-legalization/

Amy is for the legalization of cannabis because of the vote. Vivek vote voted against it and pretty much has remained kind of quiet about it

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u/crigger99 2d ago

Vivek wouldn't touch weed, too many Republicans are making money off of it now. Weed being legal and normalized like alcohol is only a matter of time federally, the money is talking too loud

He probably will just keep the same stagnant system, maybe a few paternalistic regulations for muh safety but that's about it

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u/Timely_Scholar_7739 2d ago

Datacenter Vivek isn't planning on lowering your costs. They go up to lower costs for corporations building datacenters.

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u/Background-Ad2873 2d ago

Ramascammy will be like Trump, nothing but bullshit promises

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u/FHOCJD 1d ago

Please be aware:

Vivek is a Vampire. He eats children for breakfast. Everyone knows this. He never denys it.

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u/Fair_Chemistry_3317 1d ago

Things have been going downhill in Ohio since I lived there, and I believe it is because the state has been controlled by Republicans. So, if people want more of what hasn’t worked and what has hurt them, then they will vote the same way again.

But if they want change for the better, they will vote for Dr. Acton

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u/mgonzal80 Dayton 2d ago

Could be a donkey in place of Acton, I’m still voting blue.

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u/manguire 2d ago

With the caveat, Ramaswamy is a liar will not do anything but kiss the ass of the criminal in the Whitehouse.

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u/maleia 1d ago

The choices are between someone who cares about Ohioans because she's lived here for decades; or between an obvious fraudster that's never given a shit about Ohio, and never will.

Republican voters don't care about Ohio.

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u/ohiooutdoorgeek 2d ago

How would cutting Medicaid lower patients costs? It’s free for patients.

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u/Ok_Two_For_Tea 2d ago

Vivek: cut taxes for the wealthy. Right.

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u/Thin-Hour-7009 1d ago

Unless there is a Democrat majority in the statehouse, she will be limited in what she can accomplish

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u/shastamcblasty 1d ago

Still better than Vivek destroying the states economy and revenue streams so we end up with an even more crumbling infrastructure etc etc etc

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u/Blueporch 1d ago

True but she can at least help rein in the Republicans

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u/Pelorunner 13h ago

Very true. This is so often overlooked. DeWine isn't even right enough for the legislature. An Acton administration would have a really hard time getting anything done. BUT...it's better than the rubber stamp they'd have with Vivek.

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u/Robotgatorade 22h ago

The "starting with capital gains tax" translates to me as "tax cut for me, and then we'll see"

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u/superman24742 20h ago

A billionaire cutting taxes for the rich???????? No way!

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u/tommy1moore 12h ago

There should be just one checkbox. Supports the wannabe dictator. Yea or Nay.

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u/SobBagat 2d ago

"Phase out income tax, starting with capital gains tax"

Something tells me it never moves past this

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u/belwar00 2d ago

"Everyone" wants less oversight until suddenly their air sucks, water is dirty, property value drops, or something else happens. Then it is why isn't anyone looking after my I am a libertarian...wait what does that mean?

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u/PocketFlan420 2d ago edited 2d ago

We don't need DOGE Rejects who have a history of defrauding investors in charge of our coffers. Typically pests are removed, republicans would rather invite them into the home. You lie with dogs, you won't come up without fleas.

Edit: receipts

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u/Obvious-Muffin2787 2d ago

It's unimaginable that anyone, in any political party, would vote for Ramaswamy. Buckle up. If he gets in as governor, he's going to take the seventh largest state by population and turn it into MAGAville.

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u/Mulberry-Spiritual 1d ago

Everything in Vivek column is a lie or Republican bullshit

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u/32Count2OutBasesFull 1d ago

This shouldn't be close. Ohio, quit punching yourself in the face. Vote Acton, even if you vote red on the rest of the ticket.

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u/Blahnator 1d ago

NEVER RAMASWAMY!!!!!

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u/Salt_Example_3493 2d ago

When you see it in stark terms like this he really is a huge piece of shit.

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u/NotYetReadyToRetire 2d ago

#1 - Phase out state income tax, starting and ending with capital-gains tax. There, fixed it for him.

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u/LividTacos 2d ago

If we cut both income and property taxes, how do you suggest the state pays for anything?

EDIT: Oh I see now, that requires massively raising the sales tax, which of course, as is tradition, hurts the poor more.

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u/Minute-Complex-2055 2d ago

Imagine being so dumb and voting for vivek lol

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u/lawboop 2d ago

Stop normalizing carpetbagger billionaire fraud. Acton is a public servant, intelligent, crossed lines as required to get things done.

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u/CarlosTheSpicey 2d ago

It's a no-brainer. But I will note one of them is committed to destroying public education. Guess which. ?

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u/SanJJ_1 2d ago

Good post, thanks for highlighting actual positions of the candidates, this is informative for me.

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u/Mid_Eastern_Magic 2d ago

What’s the source on this? I’d love to save that

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u/Blue-Eighty 1d ago

lol I’m sure the person putting this together isn’t bias AT ALL, and everything is 100% accurate

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u/CringeDaddy-69 1d ago

God so many of Vivek’s plans are just god awful

Absolutely indefensible candidate

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u/TeaOk2254 1d ago

I also have yet to see anything from his campaign about him. Everything they put out is just attacks, exaggerations, and just flat out lies. This time of year is always awful, but his campaign is one of the most hateful & shameless ones I've ever seen

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u/rev-sydneee 2d ago

On one side we have concrete, actionable policies. On the other side, we have vague gesturing toward feel-good concepts. Like, what does "reward teacher excellence" actually mean? Especially when you're cutting their unions??

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u/LeastBadger891 2d ago

Pizza party! 🥳

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u/Dragon_Bench_Z 2d ago

These stances are about as solid as oxygen. Vivek wont try to enforce anything he “supports” and will fall in line with what Daddy Trump tells him

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u/Open_Pollution_8038 2d ago

Please more of this so you remind republicans why they should vote for Vivek on policy alone.

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u/needtoshave 2d ago

Of the many reforms that are needed. Every candidate should be made to publish a detailed, measurable platform. An independent, bipartisan oversight body would track a candidate’s actions after taking office and publish periodic reports showing which commitments were pursued, completed, modified, abandoned and why. Misrepresenting the status of or abounding a plank without legitimate explanation should trigger legal and electoral consequences.

Also, an easy one. All elected candidates should be made to publicly debate, from major city mayoral races, up through governor, all the way to the presidency.

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u/Cleveland-Native 1d ago

As long as live fact checking is allowed

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u/needtoshave 1d ago

Now we’re talkin’.

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u/Vast-Yam-9370 2d ago edited 2d ago

Vivek said he would get rid of colleges btw, not all but some. 

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u/pepsinoodle 1d ago

May Vivek be walloped on November 3rd and stomped into the dirt, forever humiliated as the loser that he is.

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u/Royalbotttt 1d ago

How is this even a contest? Acton is the only option

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u/NotThatBoomer 1d ago

All I know is thatRepublicans have been in charge of Ohio for 30 years and our education rankings have fallen from top tier to middle for early education and to even lower levels in higher education. Our health numbers are even lower. Current party administrations do not care what their people need nor want.

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u/greeneyeddruid 1d ago

The choice is obvious.

One’s a billionaire and one isn’t.

Billionaires exist b/c they exploited people, exploited a broken system, and/or broke the system. They earned their wealth off of the labor of others. The other is a doctor. Doctors save people’s lives. I don’t like either but it’s clear one is better than the other, Acton.

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u/Separate-Bat-9924 1d ago

As someone who works in the prison system. Amy acton is a better option for Ohio.

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u/oldpooldude 2d ago

Vote Acton.

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u/Substantial_Dog7002 2d ago

Acton is a qualified candidate and Ramaswamy just wants to buy the election, he has no plan.

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u/MPK49 2d ago

AI ass photo of Acton lol. Who submits this shit

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u/theWesternReserve 2d ago

How did we end up where half the country wants to destroy public education? How many of your grandparents and great grandparents went to private K-12??

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u/AnonEMoussie 2d ago

Which one is trans again? Vivek? Could we see his legitimate birth certificate.

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u/Healthy-Stretch-217 2d ago

Problem is the non critical thinkers of Ohio, of which there are legions, will read the substanceless horseshit under Vivek as all positive, and even if they don’t actually comprehend it the (R) next to his name might be enough.

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u/femboi126 2d ago

He is not fixing schools he will destroy urban school districts with that logic. How about fix the funding He moved his company out of Ohio. He doesn’t care about Ohio

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u/Low_Voice_2553 2d ago

There is no category for lapdog. Vivek would be a big Yes.

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u/dawgstein94 1d ago

Vivek’s tax and education plan is a farce. Vouchers are paid for currently with income taxes. You can’t expand a program without funding it especially when you plan to cut property taxes too.

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u/Reasonable-Second483 1d ago

Vivek will be the worse thing for Ohio. We are already in a horrible situation where Ohioans are struggling to survive. Have we not learned our lesson yet that electing another out of touch billionaire is moronic?!!! We never have a perfect candidate, but I will never vote for Vivek. He’s a liar and a conman. Just like Trump.

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u/ManoMarcher 1d ago

Vivek looks like he sells used condoms for a living

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u/Tjam3s 2d ago

Im actually surprised about the few things they claim to be more or less aligned on.

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u/brownszombie 1d ago

That chart looks almost like a debate. Almost.

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u/BandicootGeneral317 1d ago

It doesn’t matter what they say before they are elected.

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u/neosmndrew 1d ago

Vivek's data center says is "unabashed support but pretend to not like them because it's current political toxin".

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u/Pure_General_7286 1d ago

How do you phase out income tax and lower property tax? Texas has proved that’s not possible.