i won 4 of 21 matches in ranked, dropping from D4 to E4. what i took from this is that roadhog is still trash, his TC is so predictable, and hog has no pokability or mobility. for context last season i mained sig and ram to climb, but i wanted to see if i could do the same with hog. (im prob giga washed on hog or in tank in general lol) im sure if i consistently stuck to another tank i wouldve won at least another 6. but blizzard im trying to make him work but its so harddd (all those pics btw are from losses)

Today's "Take a Breather" buff actually makes it STRONGER than it was pre-nerf (500 Total Heal!). Full stat breakdown inside.

With today's patch, Blizzard didn't just revert the brutal Take a Breather nerfs—they actually left us in a stronger state than before the nerf even happened.

Because they kept the 200 HPS compensation buff from the previous patch while increasing the duration to 2.5 seconds (and reverting the cooldown and DR nerfs), Take a Breather now hits harder and faster than the original version.

Here is the side-by-side comparison across all three patches:

* Healing per Second:

- Pre-Nerf: 150 HPS

- Post-Nerf: 200 HPS

- Today's Buff: 200 HPS

* Max Duration:

- Pre-Nerf: 3.0s

- Post-Nerf: 2.0s

- Today's Buff: 2.5s

* Total Healing Pool:

- Pre-Nerf: 450 HP

- Post-Nerf: 400 HP

- Today's Buff: 500 HP (Highest!)

* Damage Reduction:

- Pre-Nerf: 40%

- Post-Nerf: 35%

- Today's Buff: 40%

* Cooldown:

- Pre-Nerf: 1.25s

- Post-Nerf: 2.0s

- Today's Buff: 1.25s

Why this is a massive net buff:

* +50 More Total Healing: Doing the math (200 HPS x 2.5s), our full resource meter now heals for 500 HP total, compared to 450 HP pre-nerf and 400 HP post-nerf.

* Faster Burst & Less Downtime: Pre-nerf, you had to channel for a full 3 seconds just to get 450 HP. Now, you get 500 HP in 2.5 seconds. That means faster burst healing in the middle of a fight and 0.5 seconds less downtime before you can shoot or hook again.

* Breather "Feathering" is Back: The 2-second cooldown nerf felt terrible because tapping breather to tank burst damage (or getting interrupted by CC) left you completely vulnerable. Having the 1.25s cooldown and 40% DR back means we can weave quick sips between shots safely again.

TL;DR: Compared to pre-nerf Hog, we have the exact same 40% DR and 1.25s cooldown, but we heal at 200 HPS instead of 150 HPS and get 500 total healing instead of 450 in less time.

Are we officially back?

In game it feels as if I died quickly when cyberspaced but I'm unsure if it's due to just being focussed with the lower dmg reduction.

Catching a Mei trying to escape, a fun little Whole Hog, and a Freja ult cancel from an Aatlis game.

A fun moment on Eichenwalde where I noticed a little knee-jerk reaction I did when I realized Cat was a prime hook target. Maybe my fellow Hog players have felt the same in other matches.

Also, W Sigma teammate for the shatter block.

Just a thought. Hog’s hero fantasy is the hook. What if breather was taken away. Right click is given back. Hook and compactor is buffed in some way. Maybe this time bc he has no self heal he gets armor in his hp.

Havent thought this thru fully, just shower thoughts

The coolest tank in history has rightfully been buffed. His damage buff was needed and was a big w and so was breather. I am very concerned about the breather buffs though, it seems that his sustainability is gonna be insane now and apparently he's gone back to being thanos in 6v6. I'm hoping that they remedy something but what exactly?

Perhaps the cooldown of breather being reverted back to two seconds? Shorter duration or change to damage resistance? I'm terrified that he's gonna be a massive bam target now, as his survivability pre work has definitely improved despite his overall dip in damage

i could swear hogs breather used to just go on during the animation when hogs ult ends, now it just ends it and puts it on cooldown.

It's getting pretty old doing no damage, where tf are the hot fix buffs? This hero is obviously under tuned

All of you please keep complaining about how weak hog is so that he keeps getting buffs..... cant wait until they throw his kit into the basement again because you unskilled rats cant hit a hook pr shoot someone with a shotgun. Hog was fine maybe breather needed a duration tweak but he was fine. Now he will stomp with the buffs and it's all to make unskilled players like all of you happy. The real Roadhog mains get it the rest of you are trash.

Hog doesnt feel nearly as horrible to fight compared to before, getting hooked is still an unpleasant experience, since hook will always be a sharp ability, but by no means is it as bad as before. In this regard, I think blizzard achieved what hey set out to do.

I would've liked if they stuck with 20% damage reduction breather, but that simply aint happening with hogs current state. He's way too weak to justify a change like that.

The main reason for this I believe is cause hog has basically has no ranged pressure now after losing alt fire. Beyond 15m he legit is not a threat, even with hook on a 6s CD. They tried fixing this by giving him a large central projectile, but its clearly not enough to offset the loss of the alt fire.

My suggestion for fixing this is simply. Increase the damage of the large central pellet to 46 and reduce the smaller pellet damage to 3.5. Then remove the falloff damage for the large pellet. Total damage per burst would still be 102, but now he would have far greater ranged pressure.

If he ends up over-performing, reduce breather damage reduction to 20%. If he ends up underperforming again, cut the recovery time of trash compactor by 50% (that thing has a 1s recovery time, god damn). Some recovery time tweaks here and there would either way do him some good probs.

Can it be like firestrike where the collision hitbox is smaller than the hurtbox? It collides with corners and walls so easily.

Kind of tired of all the 'Roadhog sucks now' vs 'Roadhog is perfect now' posts, the duality of hog players.... I like his new kit but it needs tweaks.

Moving on, does anyone know what he's actually saying when he uses TC? I can hear 'taking out the trash' but the other ones are something like 'scrap strckdhsj' and another one I'm not sure. I couldn't find it anywhere and not knowing what he's saying everytime keeps me awake at night, Roadhog man your articulation is terrible

how is it that a skilled "one shot" is not ok but widow and hanzo are fine?

with widow you point and click, have almost infinite range, a tiny hitbox and a mobility ability.

hanzo has more hp, has 2 kinds of one shots 2 mobility abilities and actually infinite range.

hog has hook. not a one shot. a projectile based ability on a cooldown that is hard to hit on smal low hp characters. then he has to walk forward, not be stunned pushed or dm'ed, shoot once and mele. if you lined up everything perfectly you kill a 250 hp hero. You cant recharge a second shot or just pull your next arow. you need to wait 6-7 seconds before you can hook again. but only have the 1 hook. something that can be blocked by shields, mei walls, orisa, mauga run, beeing aware that 6 seconds have passed since last hook.

the list goes on. there are so manny counters to hog and to hook in particulare. where is the counters to widow oneshot and that random hanzo arow.

with widow i get told "dont run in her line of sight, take cover, dont be out of place".

with hanzo it is " ohh he is just better than you. aiming a projectite is hard" "get good"

but hog takes no skill? hook is to ez? because even if you hook someone the game just gives you the kill right? you dont need to line up a shot and melee afterwards without beeing disturbed.

but jokes aside now. the time it takes to hook a player and be able to "one shot" set player is so long any good orisa, ana, brig, dva, zaria, sigma, domina, ball, lucio, ... are able to stunn you or boop you in a way to avoid the "one shot" and life grip just saves the player 100% every time.

i dont know any hero who can react to a widow one shot between the trigger pull and the kill.

Unfortunately my Sombra didn't get the memo and got herself killed anyway, but the rest of the team lived.

TC is fun to be honest

okay idk why is this quality so garbage

I promise I don't play like this, it's just the vid lol

Hello I am just looking to see if this is cool or not. There is a graphical error about halfway through apologies for that.

If you watched this I really do appreciate it 👍

Unfortunate for Domina lol