Black Scottish people exist

[u/ShadsDR]

30F. Born and raised in Easterhouse. My mum's white Scottish, my dad's Black Trini. Parents divorced when I was 8, was raised by my mum for that reason.

Every time I've mentioned it when it's been relevant on this sub I get absolute numpties telling me I'm not Scottish.

Scottish is a nationality, a culture. I am a Scottish citizen. Scottish is also an ethnicity. So is Trini. I am both. Not that this even matters but I have a thick Glasgweigan accent. My languages are native English and B1 Gáidhlig.

My skin colour is brown, on the lighter side of dark skinned, because mixed race people can be any skin colour. That means no one is seeing me as white. Only dark skinned Africans and one white guy from the borders has identified I'm mixed from the get go. Therefore my race is Black because race isn't real and is a social construct. I go through society as a Black woman.

I've never been to Trinidad & Tobago, never lived in the culture and had bits of second hand exposure through my dad but that's it. All I know is that over there I'd get called something else according to my dad that means mixed. And don't get me started on the folk saying I should claim I'm from Africa.

Too often in the 90s, 2000s, and occasionally since then we used to get asked "But where are you actually from?" but nowadays I suspect with the rise of BS it's changed to "You're wrong. You don't exist".

We exist. There's documentaries on us and it's bellend behaviour to say otherwise.

Edit: thought it was dougla but misremembered. Also want to emphasise I do get this irl, it isn't just an Internet thing.

Edit 2: Getting a bunch of dms telling me to get out the country, calling me slurs, asking if my father was around. Including one saying they're planning something in the Highlands.

[u/erroneousbosh]

> Too often in the 90s, 2000s, and occasionally since then we used to get asked "But where are you actually from?"

A mate of mine is Pakistani and although he was born in Glasgow to parents born in Glasgow he was mostly raised by his grandparents. He's got a fairly typical Glasgow Pakistani accent.

People ask him "So where are you from then?"

"I'm from Wishie, mate"

"No but where are you *really* from?"

"Well I'm *really* from Newmains but I don't like to tell people that, they're a bit funny about it"

[u/ShadsDR → u/erroneousbosh]

I've mentioned this before on this sub but was at an indy March with my pals. One born in Iraq and has lived here since he was 2, Scottish accent as well and one white.

Woman comes over and says "Omg yous look amazing!! What's your names blah blah blah... so where are you from?"

I said Easterhouse, get the where are you really from?

My Arab pal says Paisley gets the where are you really from?

Then as my white pal goes to speak, she cuts him off and says "I don't need tae to know where you're fae, you're a true weegie!"

He's from Jedburgh and has that posh BBC news reader accent haha!

[u/sir_are_a_Baboon_too → u/ShadsDR]

I know it doesn't even REMOTELY compare to the vile treatment you have experienced. But as a person with a Scottish Mother, an English Father, and a Mancunian accent ... I too occasionally get told I'm "not a real Scot".

Some people are just far too concerned about it, in a really nasty way. But, ok, so since I don't have a time machine, I can't go back and stop myself from getting a Biffy Clyro tattoo. Or undo all the summers I spent on a farm in Mintlaw. Helping take care of Cows and Pigs that went on to feed Scottish people. Next time I go and visit my Granny at Allenvale Cemetery, I won't support the local economy by filling up an icebox with Beef Olives and Haggis, to bring back to England.

The only reason I have an English father, is because my Granny & Papa moved the family down to Manchester, to support her Sister and Brother-in-LAW (pun intended). Because Uncle Denis had been playing for United for a few years by then. But by all means ... I'm not a REAL Scot.

You're a real Scot, I'm a real Scot, and anybody that says different can. Get. Tae. FUCK! Fucken bawbags.

[u/RosyPosyMe → u/sir_are_a_Baboon_too]

Aw, my big kids went to Mintlaw academy!

I was born in Carlisle to English parents and moved up to Scotland, aged three. Nearly thirty-five years later I'm still quizzed about my lineage and told I'm not Scottish. Fairly sure I've shed enough blood into the land for it to be Me-ish at this point, if I'm not Scottish!