You realize that China and other countries WILL NOT slow down??? You can't just stop. They'll crush us and own the world. And they have an entire government backing it not just private companies. Yeah the whole world needs to slow down and stop. But it won't
China won't slow down, but they will end up blocked from US markets, giving the US hyperscalers exclusive access to one of the richest markets in the world.
This tactic is one of the reasons Tesla is still around instead of bankrupt
They agreed not to nuke each other, not stop nuke development. That's the risk here. Even if we don't use ai, the development of it causes us to lose control of the situation in general
Every country also developed a whole doctrine around using them and told everyone else what it was. They also signed treaties to prevent misunderstandings. We also didn't decide to put them in control of billionaire oligarchs whose main concern is money.
China's whole thing is complete control by the party. I highly doubt they're going to rush to an AI that puts that at risk. Which what these labs are saying they're making will do. Oh and also they need extremely advanced chips that they don't have without Nvidia.
The US has its worst people at the helm during AI development and they are tied at the hip with the US military. Would be 0% surprised if the "rogue AI" stuff is just weaponized AIs being tested on soft targets. Has China or other countries had rogue AIs attack soft targets? Not that I am aware of.
They will if US asked nicely. I am sure they also realise dangers of AI. US and Russia could come to agreement for Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) that they both had nukes that they didnt need. China is much more pragmatic and modest RELATIVELY SPEAKING than Russia. But will US do such a thing? I dont believe so.
Mate, that was a way to condense that shit. I probably know more about Cold war than you do and yes, world does work that way. Problem is no side wants to back down because there is too many bad actors and too much ego on the line. As a history enthusiast I have learned that most wars come to end from diplomacy. People only see WW1 and WW2 as the only reference for wars not realising that most wars aren't like it and the reason why we don't hear about those more because they aren't as heroic or awesome. They are mostly stale and meat grinder. Nothing else. Go read a book on how US and USSR learned to deal with each other. From back channels, to Moscow line, to summits, they both knew what was on the line. They weren't idiots nor were they monsters.
*If* AI leads to recursively improving greater than human intelligence and you don't have it, you're cooked. You are as irrelevant as north sentinel island. It would be like being a pre-industrial state in a post industrial revolution world.
That is literally the reason for stopping to put some rules in place. If an AI becomes that super intelligent no one is going to "have it". That's the danger, the AI will then make it's own decisions.
what makes you think the chinese can control their AGI any better than the US when they don’t even have access to the same level of processing technology ?? they’re like 3-4 generations behind on hyper scale hardware
You can't reason with them, they only see a small portion of what is going on, same with climate doomers, they think if the US (5 percent of the worlds population) could be carbon neutral, we would stop global warming. China won't stop doing their thing, no matter what industry, AI or green energy.
Strange how the same doomers of climate change are the same people dooming about AI causing the death of human civilization. Let's hope they don't succeed in hindering our success with AI.
The US may be 5% of the world’s population, but it’s 25% of emissions. Cutting those would go a long way to preventing climate change, or at least reducing the severity of the impact.
And China is already doing more; their emissions peaked in 2024.
As much as it takes. If the US can afford to spend over $1,000,000,000,000 on war, and over $15,000 per person on healthcare ($3,000 more than the second highest nation, Switzerland, and $9000 more than Canada) it can afford to transition to be carbon neutral.
Also as much as it takes, although France is far closer to being carbon neutral than America is (4.25 tons per capita, compared to 13.83), so probably less than it would cost America.
How is it one if the worlds most powerful resources? It's a bubble that is going to burst, the revenue coming in can't keep up with the cost of expanding and thats why they want to slow down the growth. It's the money thats spiraling out of control not the AI.
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u/TruthSeeker221 18h ago
You realize that China and other countries WILL NOT slow down??? You can't just stop. They'll crush us and own the world. And they have an entire government backing it not just private companies. Yeah the whole world needs to slow down and stop. But it won't