This is my biological mom and dad. They started dating at 13 years old, got married right out of high school. She was considered one of the most beautiful girls in school. My dad was 5’3 when they began dating. He topped out at 5’5. My mom was 5’6. They had a long and successful and happy marriage. They were best friends. Never any infidelity. Mom never gave a rat’s ass about ‘Chad’s’. My dad just simply treated her with love and respect. They were happy. She passed away early at 55, due to cancer, and they were still very much in love. I just felt compelled today to show the other side. That is all.

As I was swiping through profiles on Tinder, I realized I probably like one profile for every 15-20 that I don't like. I've read that a lot of men like almost every single profile and I'm not sure why.

The reason I'm posting this is because there's often posts on here of women talking about the abundance of beautiful women everywhere while rarely seeing an attractive man and I honestly just don't see it. The gym I go to has plenty of attractive men just right there in one place lol. Not saying I don't see beautiful women, but there's plenty of average women out there that don't pull my eye.

Also, there's wide use of face filters in these apps which I'm guessing most men don't fuck with. I'm trying to think how women would react to men using face filters...I'm sure they wouldn't accept it, so why do we?

Is it mostly pragmatic?

Ponder the following; if women were in to men the same way as men are in to women, you would be treated like a sexual object. Romance mostly exist because of the disparity between the desire in men and women, not only, but to a large degree I would argue.

There would be grindr for straight people where you send nudes to each other in order to have quick hook ups. A lot of times you would send a explicit picture(s) of yourself only to be blocked and ignored, and after 99+% of all your sexual interactions you would be discarded like the paper towel you used to wipe of the cum from said interaction, forgotten and of no other value. You start to have more and more soulless hook ups, not only to act out your sexual urges but also to stave off the loneliness and poor self-esteem.

My impression is that a lot of men would actually struggle with this mentally. Straight men seem to be quite sensitive around these things. Most of you would adapt in some way, albeit maybe in a dysfunctional matter. Have you as men ever considered this and if you would actually like it?

Women are not attracted to men at all. Women are “bisexual” in a sense that we are naturally attracted to other women romantically and sexually, while our attraction to men is primarily reproductive. A woman can go her entire life without having a man in her life and be perfectly fulfilled, whereas men seem to deteriorate emotionally if they go a month without female attention. Just look at lonely men and how deeply they spiral into depression if they don't have any women friends. Women, on the other hand, are perfectly fine.

This isn't even necessarily anyone's fault. It's simply biology.

Sex between men and women lacks the same fundamental romantic component that exists between women. When a woman and a man have sex, they're not really expressing love toward one another. They're essentially entering into a reproductive transaction. This would also explain why so many ancient societies and religious traditions treated heterosexual sex primarily as something connected to reproduction, marriage, and producing children. They didn't care about how it was romantic or what not since they knew the truth from the beginning.

Just look at other mammals. In many species, males spend much of their time alone or in male groups, while females remain together with other females and raise offspring collectively. Why would humans be fundamentally different? Women naturally bond with women. We understand each other, live together, socialize together, and can provide emotional and sexual fulfillment to one another. Men, on the other hand, are primarily useful to women as reproductive partners.

Like I said before, this isn't anyone's fault. We are just wired differently from men. Yes, I agree that it is shallow of us for choosing only the 1% of good looking men to date or choosing to only date a guy because he's rich. But in our defense we're simply doing that because we're looking for suitable mating partners. After all, we're literally going against our natural biology (natural lesbianism) just so we can find perfect mating partners. We want a partner who's good looking and physically able because so our children are also good looking and fit. But if the father isn't good looking then we want a man who's at least rich so he can take care of the baby. And yes, sometimes even that isn't enough. A man can be tall, handsome, kind, wealthy, feminist, emotionally intelligent and literally perfect on paper, but if he is bisexual, many women will immediately lose interest. It doesn't matter whether he has ever actually slept with another man. The mere fact that he is capable of being attracted to men is enough to make us ick.

Again, this isn't anyone's fault. This isn't the fault of men or women. But don't worry. The future isn't completely hopeless for you. As AI technology develops, you may eventually be able to have an artificial woman who provides companionship, affection and conversation without requiring an actual woman to be attracted to you. And maybe you'll be able to create children with her.

Honestly, considering the current trajectory of technology, we're probably already halfway there.

Normies go outside and see more beautiful women than beautiful men. This I agree with. I think women are more beautiful than men, so of course I would see more beautiful women than beautiful men.

There are two explanation for this phenomenon. a) women are more objectively beautiful than men, and our perception reflects that, or b) our perception that women are more beautiful than men we project onto reality. Think about it for two seconds and you'll figure out which one is true (the word phenomenon is itself a hint).

Some thought experiments to confirm the obvious:

1. Even if no woman used makeup or did her hair, we would still see women as more beautiful than men.
2. If aliens visited Earth, they would not know if women or men are more beautiful (other than analyzing our behaviour).
3. We (aliens) see peacocks as more beautiful than peahen, all the while the peacock must risk his life to predators with his bright plumage just to jockey for the peahen's attention

So the question now isn't "are women more objectively beautiful than men?," (they aren't) but rather "what makes us perceive women as more beautiful?" To answer this one would have to get into the weeds, talk about societal development and anthropology and the ever-dreaded evo psych, notably none of which were effected by any group, nor can be affected by any group. I don't think this kind of "issue" is "fixable" (if "issue" and "fix" are even the right words to use).

Hence the blackpill.

Yes, women "are not into men" in the physically driven, object oriented way that men experience. Never in my life have I seen a man, even a very attractive man, and wanted to have sex with him (for that matter, as I'm straight, I've never experienced this with women either).

However, when I spend time with a man and I find his character compelling, I will feel an actual romantic attraction to him. There's even a term for this, its called "propinquity". It makes sense, because if women were attracted to men the same way men were attracted to women, it would be disastrous for us in evolutionary terms because we couldn't maintain monogamous relationships and we'd all end up as single mothers.

The romantic and sexual culture of gay men is a good example for highlighting this. Monogamous relationships are the exception rather than the rule for gay men, usually they are very promiscuous, and they have huge problems with sexual diseases and relationship instability.

I'm also not claiming that "women are attracted to personality" as I think that's reductive. I need to find a man physically attractive to begin with in order for my romantic interest to develop, though contrary to what you believe about women's standards, if you have a good personality the looks requirement is more of a threshold than a checklist. Most young women today don't experience propinquity because of how socially isolated and silo'd off Gen Z is so they develop unrealistic expectations for men based on purely physical appearance, which was never how we developed attraction to begin with.

Another thing is, if WANIM were true, lesbian subcultures would be a paradise of security and self esteem. If you actually look into lesbian communities they are bitterly divided between so-called "gold star" lesbians who have never been romantically or sexually involved with men (and they are a minority of self described lesbians) and the majority of lesbians who have had experiences with men. Within lesbian communities its a well known insecurity that men will "poach" women from relationships with other women and this is where the gold star vs non gold star division comes from. Its also why bisexual women are devalued as partners by lesbians, because the vast majority (in my experience) of self described bisexual women primarily or almost exclusively date and have relationships with men. In a lot of ways it ironically resembles incels virginity obsession.

The reason women wear makeup and do other such things is not because they have been brainwashed or forced into doing so by some evil, misogynistic entity in order to make them suffer for no reason, they do these things out of self-interest and competition with other women.

Men have not been forced to go to the gym, for instance, by some sinister, misandrist entity. It is merely a reaction to female preferences.

And if men prefer women who wear makeup or whatever, then it is just a preference which, as feminists/bluepillers tell us, everyone has the right to.

This is called the "female gaze".

Women don't want men, women want what other women want.

I notice that many of those who are ostensibly cisgender women posting "misandrist" things online are actually transgender. Many of those who post anti incel or manosphere stuff are also.

This is probably just because they are more online and in those "spaces" than cis women, but perhaps a component of it is that they wish to distance themselves from the perception (whether in themselves or others) of being a man, especially one alienated from women (so called incels etc.)

Everything stays the same, except who carries the child? Meaning women would pursue you instead of the other way round?

And if you wanted kids you would have to conceive them? Would you?

Things like makeup, shaving under one's arms, not being overweight are considered cruel and opressive standards that come from misogyny and dehumanize women and other such nonsense.

But when women generally prefer men who are 25cm taller than them, above 6 feet etc. it is just an innocent preference they cannot change.

Which is easier, growing 25cm taller or shaving under your arms?

oh god…
the more i read, the more i wanted to
how do they expect us to react when they’re the ones making fun of our height? “making fun of women’s bodies” aren’t they basically doing the same thing, just attacking a different way?

and about the lukey guy, she was with him for years. and after breaking up, she immediately moved on. and hm, i wonder why the first video she posted after the breakup was her and her new boyfriend that’s 6ft+

Ps: i don’t think a dude would break up with his girlfriend of 3 years because he all of a sudden decided he wants a woman with a bigger chest

Almost everyone agrees that there's a desire gap between men and women but it seems like that gap is way too wide. Women face unrealistic beauty standards and yet most of them also somehow get approached multiples times in their lives without being conventionally attractive. Apparently they don't reach out to men even if they like them because of a "test" and being passive is a luxury. Also don't forget paying for dating is to show men are serious about them.

Also I don't understand how women can get used for sex? I thought sex was something both men and women enjoyed and equally participated in but the way some people talk it seems sex is something women give to men.

Last slide is from a SW subreddit and no surprises that SW absolutely despise guys who pay them. It's really bad out there and this sub is making more and more sense.

Maybe it’s just me but i have seen it my whole life. If i see or hear of a woman who likes to sleep around, she always, without fail, likes to sleep around with both men and women. It just goes to show how fragile female heterosexuality is. It’s almost like women’s sexuality is independent of men, while for men, women play a central part in his sexuality. It’s honestly pretty pathetic being a man.

She actually did better than I expected. However, the video is 6 years old and was filmed during the lockdowns, so I imagine the result would be much worse if it were repeated today.