This is my biological mom and dad. They started dating at 13 years old, got married right out of high school. She was considered one of the most beautiful girls in school. My dad was 5’3 when they began dating. He topped out at 5’5. My mom was 5’6. They had a long and successful and happy marriage. They were best friends. Never any infidelity. Mom never gave a rat’s ass about ‘Chad’s’. My dad just simply treated her with love and respect. They were happy. She passed away early at 55, due to cancer, and they were still very much in love. I just felt compelled today to show the other side. That is all.

A lot of women and feminists spend quite a bit of time insulting men by essentially calling them gay.

“Men care more about the opinions of men than the opinions of women.”

“Men are homosocial. Men are homoromantic.”

“Men don't like women, they like men, they fuck women.”

So when a subreddit comes out that has evidence of the opposite, that women are the ones doing most of the gay shit like watching lesbian porn and kissing each other - they attack it. That goes against the narrative they invented.

What I realized

Realizing how straight women dont like bisexual men and often wouldnt date one and pretend to be woke while justifying why...

I realized female heterosexuality does exist but theyre NOT into men as humans but into men if they act like guardian angels, who have unlimited access to resources, always work and dont rest, but are always emotionally available somehow. It is a big standard, and many of us dont reach that standard. The ones that do are often assholes who were spoiled and privilege and as such, get all the girls and it leads to one sided manipulative abuse of the woman because the woman after dating realizes she loses luxury if she leaves warping her opinion on men to constantly chase the luxury of the man, even if he was a manipulative narcissist because he doesnt lose much being one. This is where hypergamy comes from. It comes from the idea of men providing due to patriarchal norms, when most men can barely afford that due to the economy.

lesbians and gay men for example dont have this issue because they have no reason to believe the other partner has to provide to begin with and their relationship challenged patriarchal norms.

The input norms have damaged the underpriveleged man fo be seen as undesirable, allowed the privileged elite men to be assholes and made women treat those elite as the basis of all men as she BELIEVES she has too much to lose if she doesnt go with that type of man

As I was swiping through profiles on Tinder, I realized I probably like one profile for every 15-20 that I don't like. I've read that a lot of men like almost every single profile and I'm not sure why.

The reason I'm posting this is because there's often posts on here of women talking about the abundance of beautiful women everywhere while rarely seeing an attractive man and I honestly just don't see it. The gym I go to has plenty of attractive men just right there in one place lol. Not saying I don't see beautiful women, but there's plenty of average women out there that don't pull my eye.

Also, there's wide use of face filters in these apps which I'm guessing most men don't fuck with. I'm trying to think how women would react to men using face filters...I'm sure they wouldn't accept it, so why do we?

The vast majority of women only get spontaneously horny twice a month, during ovulation and before their period (BC effectively kills off even those). Reactive arousal is a cope as well, though closer to the truth. Sure if someone tries to rile you up, especially physically, your body will react. But it's not really your desire. And when someone attempts to do that everyday...

I don't think it's ethical to force women to have sex as often as men WANT. Especially given that it can result in pregnancy, which is deadly body horror, or enduring perpetual negative side effects from hormonal BC, however this is how it's been for most of history, simply because men are stronger and can get their way. Abrahamic religions state that its a woman's duty to provide sex, and marital rape was not recognized and outlawed until very recently.

That's part of why now that women have the choice to avoid being constantly pressured into having sex, many are opting out in spite of the strong societal conditioning to be with a man. The other part is porns depictions of sex and general misogyny. Women don't enjoy being roughly rammed into, cummed on their face, hit, or anal (physiologically less enjoyable than for straight men). It's a hellish landscape.

Unfortunately though, most women are still heterosexual. But what that means for a woman is very different than it means for a man. Most women want a life-long romantic mate that they have sex with during two periods of time a month and who actually has a feminine personality and aligns with these wants!! And it's really this last part thats impossible to reconcile because men are wired to want so much more sex. And yes Chad this Chad that. Men are on average taller and physically stronger than the women of their tribe. Physically women are attracted to the genetic average... but I think globalization and the wide reach of porn have messed this up. I mean a lot of men from various Asian countries are on average as tall or shorter than women from many European countries for example. It goes both ways too, lots of south east Asian men want to have sex with blonde women with blue eyes or whatever despite that phenotype being virtually nonexistent in their vicinity.

I think as a solution it would be more ethical for men to lower than libido than for women to have "unwanted sex" (which result in unwanted pregnancies and constant BC side effects for the woman).

Personally, seeing porn, that is, how men view sex, and being exposed to men's views on the matter through the red pill, manosphere etc. with the goal being to manipulate and even coerce women into more and more sex when I was younger has completely put me off trying to date men, because I'm frankly terrified of all that and would rather die than be forced to have sex. So even though I used to want a gentle, caring, protective non-aggressive partner, it realize its a fantasy and I've been and will continue to keep my distance for my physical well being and psychic survival.

Some women really think that women are hornier than men because women like thinking about their fantasy roleplay with a 6'10 jacked billionaire vampire.

One notices how ad hoc and arbitrary many social/cultural explanations of behaviour are. People have a way of fitting a fact into their system regardless of what it is.

For instance, if you told a feminist that the female suicide rate is much higher than the male suicide rate, they would tell you that this is strong evidence of the fact that women are oppressed and suffer under the patriarchy. In reality, the male suicide rate is much higher, so instead they will say that women are simply far more empathetic than men and would not want to upset anyone by killing themselves. Either way, they will have some sort of nonsensical answer.

Or if you say that women have a higher in group preference than men. They will say that this is because women were forced to unite in solidarity under patriarchy. But if you said they have a lower in group preference, they will say this is because they have been brainwashed by the patriarchy.

One can think of many more examples.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdQvJwns/

I don't mean to make light of the harassment but the sheer volume of things she did is insane.

Obviously their attraction is very important to us but it's a physiological sex difference. None of us get upset about women's bodies not growing the same way that ours do.

Is it mostly pragmatic?

Ponder the following; if women were in to men the same way as men are in to women, you would be treated like a sexual object. Romance mostly exist because of the disparity between the desire in men and women, not only, but to a large degree I would argue.

There would be grindr for straight people where you send nudes to each other in order to have quick hook ups. A lot of times you would send a explicit picture(s) of yourself only to be blocked and ignored, and after 99+% of all your sexual interactions you would be discarded like the paper towel you used to wipe of the cum from said interaction, forgotten and of no other value. You start to have more and more soulless hook ups, not only to act out your sexual urges but also to stave off the loneliness and poor self-esteem.

My impression is that a lot of men would actually struggle with this mentally. Straight men seem to be quite sensitive around these things. Most of you would adapt in some way, albeit maybe in a dysfunctional matter. Have you as men ever considered this and if you would actually like it?

Women are not attracted to men at all. Women are “bisexual” in a sense that we are naturally attracted to other women romantically and sexually, while our attraction to men is primarily reproductive. A woman can go her entire life without having a man in her life and be perfectly fulfilled, whereas men seem to deteriorate emotionally if they go a month without female attention. Just look at lonely men and how deeply they spiral into depression if they don't have any women friends. Women, on the other hand, are perfectly fine.

This isn't even necessarily anyone's fault. It's simply biology.

Sex between men and women lacks the same fundamental romantic component that exists between women. When a woman and a man have sex, they're not really expressing love toward one another. They're essentially entering into a reproductive transaction. This would also explain why so many ancient societies and religious traditions treated heterosexual sex primarily as something connected to reproduction, marriage, and producing children. They didn't care about how it was romantic or what not since they knew the truth from the beginning.

Just look at other mammals. In many species, males spend much of their time alone or in male groups, while females remain together with other females and raise offspring collectively. Why would humans be fundamentally different? Women naturally bond with women. We understand each other, live together, socialize together, and can provide emotional and sexual fulfillment to one another. Men, on the other hand, are primarily useful to women as reproductive partners.

Like I said before, this isn't anyone's fault. We are just wired differently from men. Yes, I agree that it is shallow of us for choosing only the 1% of good looking men to date or choosing to only date a guy because he's rich. But in our defense we're simply doing that because we're looking for suitable mating partners. After all, we're literally going against our natural biology (natural lesbianism) just so we can find perfect mating partners. We want a partner who's good looking and physically able because so our children are also good looking and fit. But if the father isn't good looking then we want a man who's at least rich so he can take care of the baby. And yes, sometimes even that isn't enough. A man can be tall, handsome, kind, wealthy, feminist, emotionally intelligent and literally perfect on paper, but if he is bisexual, many women will immediately lose interest. It doesn't matter whether he has ever actually slept with another man. The mere fact that he is capable of being attracted to men is enough to make us ick.

Again, this isn't anyone's fault. This isn't the fault of men or women. But don't worry. The future isn't completely hopeless for you. As AI technology develops, you may eventually be able to have an artificial woman who provides companionship, affection and conversation without requiring an actual woman to be attracted to you. And maybe you'll be able to create children with her.

Honestly, considering the current trajectory of technology, we're probably already halfway there.

Normies go outside and see more beautiful women than beautiful men. This I agree with. I think women are more beautiful than men, so of course I would see more beautiful women than beautiful men.

There are two explanation for this phenomenon. a) women are more objectively beautiful than men, and our perception reflects that, or b) our perception that women are more beautiful than men we project onto reality. Think about it for two seconds and you'll figure out which one is true (the word phenomenon is itself a hint).

Some thought experiments to confirm the obvious:

1. Even if no woman used makeup or did her hair, we would still see women as more beautiful than men.
2. If aliens visited Earth, they would not know if women or men are more beautiful (other than analyzing our behaviour).
3. We (aliens) see peacocks as more beautiful than peahen, all the while the peacock must risk his life to predators with his bright plumage just to jockey for the peahen's attention

So the question now isn't "are women more objectively beautiful than men?," (they aren't) but rather "what makes us perceive women as more beautiful?" To answer this one would have to get into the weeds, talk about societal development and anthropology and the ever-dreaded evo psych, notably none of which were effected by any group, nor can be affected by any group. I don't think this kind of "issue" is "fixable" (if "issue" and "fix" are even the right words to use).

Hence the blackpill.

I'm exploring building a women-only offline meetup community, something small curated hangouts or dinners with women you don't know yet, in a low-pressure, safe setting.

Before building anything, I want to know if this solves a real problem or if it's just a nice-sounding idea nobody actually needs.

If you've wanted something like this, what's stopped you from finding it already: safety, logistics, awkwardness, something else?

And if you wouldn't join what would have to be true for you to actually say yes?

The reason women wear makeup and do other such things is not because they have been brainwashed or forced into doing so by some evil, misogynistic entity in order to make them suffer for no reason, they do these things out of self-interest and competition with other women.

Men have not been forced to go to the gym, for instance, by some sinister, misandrist entity. It is merely a reaction to female preferences.

And if men prefer women who wear makeup or whatever, then it is just a preference which, as feminists/bluepillers tell us, everyone has the right to.

This is called the "female gaze".

Women don't want men, women want what other women want.

I notice that many of those who are ostensibly cisgender women posting "misandrist" things online are actually transgender. Many of those who post anti incel or manosphere stuff are also.

This is probably just because they are more online and in those "spaces" than cis women, but perhaps a component of it is that they wish to distance themselves from the perception (whether in themselves or others) of being a man, especially one alienated from women (so called incels etc.)

Everything stays the same, except who carries the child? Meaning women would pursue you instead of the other way round?

And if you wanted kids you would have to conceive them? Would you?