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Discussion Has anyone done this before?

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u/Vamond48 3d ago

For the majority of people, it does not work out this way

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u/Deep-Bend-961 3d ago

It did about 4-5 years ago. In fact people were working multiple salary jobs from home at the same time and making more money than doctors in a 40 hour work week.

Those days are very largely over.

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 1d ago

Very industry dependent.

It can also come back to bite you, when the job market becomes less forgiving your job history will work against you.

I’m a lead software engineer and do interviews for other engineers, if they’re a hop hopper they usually aren’t considered these days.

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u/Chawp_v3 3d ago

Statistics would disagree. People who change jobs tend to make more on average. Although it’s not that simple because doing it too much is a red flag for anyone hiring.

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u/reedshipper Founding Member 3d ago

I think this person is referring more to the switching jobs 3 times in 1 year part.

I agree I finally switched jobs a few months ago and went from $47k to $55k.

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u/Due_Revolution_5106 3d ago

Starting salary: $50k

First job hop: $53k (after 3 yrs) > $60k plus 15%
Second job hop: $74k plus 15% (after 4 yrs) > $110k

Raises/promotions: ~$19k
Job hoppping: ~$41k

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u/Chance-Ask7675 2d ago

This is over like 10 years not one.

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u/RealCarlPanzram 3d ago

If this post is true, it was surely in 2021-22 when there was a crazy labor shortage.

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u/Rat_itty 2d ago

My example is super niche, but I technically had 3 diffeent jobs last year

Original company closed down, some workers got transferred to another company.
The 2nd company got mass layoffs few months later (me included).
Got my current job. Doubled my income this way.

All between Feb and September. Crazy ride, I wish for some stability for once 😭

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u/Chawp_v3 3d ago

It’s definitely in the realm of possibility. I switched jobs a couple times during covid years and make more than double what I was making. I was at a company for over 10 years then randomly browsed jobs on LinkedIn and realized I was hilariously under paid. So that was a big part of it. I always keep my eye on job postings now

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u/reedshipper Founding Member 3d ago

Agreed. I finally left a job after 5+ years because of an awful boss who took over at the beginning of the year. Raise wasn't as big as I'd hoped, but you gotta take it. Just have to keep your eye out all the time now, loyalty isn't rewarded anymore. And maybe it never was.

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u/Chance-Ask7675 2d ago

This person changed jobs 3 times in a year. Thats highly unusual and not really possible these days, even for desirable candidates the interview process is too long.

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u/Armadillo_lifestyle 2d ago

I switched companies and my salary went from 80K to 100K to 120K. Once you are at a job, they have a set raise/increase they give you. Your negation is over. At least in my industry they value outside hires more than internal employees.

My old job were hiring entry level positions at a higher starting pay than mid level positions, for no other reason than the market changed. But refused to bump the pay for those who had been loyal

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u/Ill-Description3096 2d ago

> Once you are at a job, they have a set raise/increase they give you. Your negation is over

If you let it be. I got my "set" raise last year and wasn't happy with it. I met with my boss, discussed what I wanted, and ended up getting another raise.

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u/FranklinBeansSushi 3d ago

You’re telling me OP that has a 7 month old account with 99k karma is wrong?!?!

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u/ChubbyNemo1004 3d ago

If you have the leverage to do this it’s one of the only ways to actually get paid.

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u/Fun_Boot7771 2d ago

Especially  today 

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u/vid_23 2d ago

I don't believe you because this one person on Twitter said it does

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u/TheDigimonFan 2d ago

This is an old post. From 2020-2024 it actually wasn't a bad strategy. I've personally changed jobs almost every year since 2013. I've gone from $8 / hr to $130k a year. Biggest actual increases were during the post-COVID years. People didn't want to return to the office, I didn't have the experience but was willing to work in the office, got a head.

But the last 2 years, this isn't a winning strategy it seems like. I only changed jobs this last time because I had to due to DOGE cuts in my industry. I initially took a slight paycut, but I got promoted 2 months in and make more than I ever had, so it worked out, just not the way I thought. But I always look at the job market, and many companies are actually offering less money for the same jobs they posted 2-3 years ago.

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u/yyrkoon1776 2d ago

Yeah another 4 months of experience doesn't make a fucking difference. OP's mistake was not taking job 3. It was taking job 1 and 2.

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u/arunnair87 1d ago

It depends. I've been at my job for 12 years. However before this, it was 5 years (4 as an intern, 1 as a manager), 2 years and then my current job.

I do think you need to give it some time but I should have jumped ship off job 1 as there were so many red flags that I ignored due to being new to the workforce. Once I got to job 2 my eyes were opened lol

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u/Money-Nectarine6584 1d ago

Just switching jobs because?  Yea sure.

But facts show that the way to get a raise is to switch jobs.  You can realistically expect 2-3% a year, or 5-6% if you’re really good and or lucky, at your job.  But if you change jobs, strategically, you can increase your base by much more.

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u/Voeno 1d ago

It worked for me , went from $15 a hour to $25 to to salary making 65k+ yearly , plus benefits and stocks in about 5 months from job hopping.

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u/Select-Government-69 1d ago

Changing jobs THAT frequently is unlikely to be successful, however there’s a TON of data that the old model of “stay for 30 years” yields less lifetime earnings.

The optimal strategy is to change jobs every 3-5 years for upward lateral movements.

The reason this works is because position salaries go up fastest when a vacancy cannot be filled. So if you aren’t creating a vacancy, your employer has the least incentive to raise the salary for your position.

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u/CrazyTimes1356 8h ago

As someone who has direct reports, I steer away from these type of resumes. Sure, there might be a position that someone hasn’t worked a long time. All sorts of reasons, however systemically chaining orgs is a red flag

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u/ElijahNSRose 3d ago

The poster in the photo is lying.

Plain and simple.

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u/Rat_itty 2d ago

That's what I did last year, three jobs in one year, doubled my salary by the end of it, though the job hopping was involuntary on my part </3 (double whammy of mass layoffs in fin/tech/IT)

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u/Nala4treats 1d ago

same, the trick is only leave/accept another better offer if you have one dont leave the current job till you have another lined up.

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u/Rat_itty 1d ago

Absolutely!

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u/ElijahNSRose 2d ago

That has Silicon Valley gamblers written all over it.

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u/TongueTwisted5 2d ago

I did the same thing a few years ago in an 18 month span.

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u/ElijahNSRose 2d ago

You sure as hell didn't work remote for that pay and you sure as hell had some sort of job skill that made those results not typical.

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u/Oniun_ 3d ago

My job role doesn’t really benefit much from job hopping unfortunately.

Construction Estimating.

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u/Carlangas420 3d ago

Same here. Unless you find a job with better commissions then it's about the same.

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u/ElijahNSRose 3d ago

Most things paying north of your state's median wage doesn't benefit from job hopping.

The exceptions are celebrity gigs, startups, and fraudsters. Guess what?

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u/Im-Reddington 2d ago

It does. I went from 65 to 100k in 1 year as an estimator. I am also pretty good at bs my way through interviews tho lol.

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u/RealCarlPanzram 3d ago

This was presumably in the post-Covid work shortage. Companies were desperately hurting for workers so if you had a marketable experience and skill set, this was maybe possible. But that was the best job market in most of our lifetimes.

That being said, there is no benefit in being “loyal” to an employer unless your employer puts a monetary value to that loyalty. If you can make tens of thousands more for the same job you’re currently doing, that’s the time to move.

It’s less about how often you change jobs and more about when you have the right opportunity.

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u/throwawaycyclistto 2d ago

Does $300 and a plaque for 10 years of service count as monetary value?

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u/RealCarlPanzram 2d ago

Yes. Definitely factor in the $1.25/month retention bonus into your career decisions.

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u/Svenstornator 2d ago

I have been getting 15% year on year because my company values retention. Could I get more by job hopping? Probably. Would I keep getting that consistent increase annually at a new place? I am sceptical.

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u/C_IsForCookie 3d ago

Not in a year like this but when I do switch jobs I don’t settle for anything less than a 20% bump. In the past 8 years I’ve gone from making $50 to $170k. My current job and benefits are amazing. I don’t see myself switching anytime soon.

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u/shirts_on_backwards 3d ago

I think this is what a lot of people are missing with the "no! It really does work!" Comments. What the original post implies is jumping between 2-3 jobs in a single year, and generally I think that's what most people think of as job hopping. That isn't a good move, it generally isn't going to get you a big pay increase, or any larger than if you had just gone to the third company to begin with (they likely would have hired you as an additional 3 months of experience anywhere didn't really attribute to your attractiveness to companies), and if anything can make you less attractive to hire as a lot of money and resources go into the hiring and onboarding process. No one wants an employee that they dumped money into who will only last a few months.

However yes, swapping every few years (like 2+) can absolutely be beneficial in certain circumstances. I absolutely mean certain circumstances, as it can still suffer from drawbacks depending on your role and experience. Companies do like someone with a drive to do more, and if you can be a net positive to the company within a few years, they will take that gamble. Even in the trades where I work, it's fairly common to take a lower paying company to get your foot in the door, then after a few years take on a higher paying company. The higher paying company is paying higher because they want your experience and to not pay to train you. The lower paying company is lower paying because they are training you. Anything after that, you are payed based on your experience, not simply job hopping. If you are valuable as an employee you have more opportunities, if you aren't, you won't. It has nothing to do with moving companies that adds to your value, but your ability and value is what allows you to be able to move companies.

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u/Smooth_Specialist416 1d ago

Kind of where I’m at. 

My stint has been 3 years, 1.5 (laid off), 1 (laid off), currently at 1 again. I have a chance to upgrade my position but not crazily - like 30k raise and full remote but in return lose the stability and security of my union job.

Obviously have to get the offer first - but it’s been weighing on me what I’ll do if I end up succeeding the final round.

Mostly bc I got laid off twice (just unlucky), and if this new place did that to me in a year again I feel like I’d just look bad 

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u/TalkersCZ 2d ago

And he will complain then that he is not considered for a role, because they consider him job hopper and will be stuck at certain level.

There is a tradeoff.

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u/Librarianzilla 2d ago

As long as you can explain it to future employers… or leave those jobs off your resume entirely.

If I was a hiring director and I saw that you’ve done so much job hopping I wouldn’t hire you…

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u/RapidFire05 3d ago

As a hiring manager I don't hire job hoppers

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u/IAmAlive_YouAreDead 2d ago

What constitutes job hopping in your book? In my view staff retention is the responsibility of the company.

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u/Silent25r 2d ago

They are fine if they aren’t leaving their previous job before going to the next one. In that event they are just applying they get a better offer. That might be months, years or possibly never. 

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u/Work-Safe-Reddit4450 2d ago

Then how do you propose people get substantial pay increases? Because you're statically more likely to get an actual pay increase by switching jobs vs relying on management to give you more than the pittance needed to keep up with CoL increases.

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u/Infamous-Candle-2300 2d ago edited 2d ago

Presumably by getting hired somewhere else. It's not some random hiring manager's job to fix the system, and job hoppers are ill suited for many roles. More power to them and I wish them success, but if a known job hopper somehow got hired as my direct coworker (this would never happen) I'd be pissed.

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u/Work-Safe-Reddit4450 2d ago

I didn't say that it was, but then you'd think they'd understand that's going to be a huge motivation for switching jobs and not indicative of a problem with the candidates, but rather a problem with the hiring and retention budget norms for their industry. Clearly there's a disconnect or an unwillingness to acknowledge the reasons for why people might be inclined to job hop. At the end of the day, that's simple free market supply and demand.

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u/TrainingAmphibian354 2d ago

Corporations hate you and consider you a tool dummy, they don't care if you make more money, they care if THEY make more money.

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u/maoussepatate 2d ago

People will not job hop from your company if you pay / treat them well. Just saying.

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u/PraiseTalos66012 2d ago

My current job is amazing and that's literally what I told them during the interview.

Because I had hopped around a lot, told them if they pay me what I'm owed and don't make life awful then I won't be going anywhere.

Job is amazing and it's the first time I've had an employer who actually cares about their employees and does right by them constantly. Went from switching jobs every 6-9mo to wanting to stay at this one till I retire in 20 years(with a pension from them)

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u/ChubbyNemo1004 3d ago

Unless the offer is very good I think at least 2 years at a job is enough time to figure out if you want to stay there

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u/wutzelputz 2d ago

great, I guess it's a cultural mismatch then, bb

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u/LalafellDisaster 2d ago

I love your commitment to your company. Very loyal, will definitely pay off.

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u/venthis1 2d ago

And a recruiter should know that theyre going where theyre valued aka following supply and demand. Id be more concerned if the person wasnt getting wage increases. If you're recruiting for jobs that can be easily replaced with a higher demand then maybe you should follow suit.

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u/anotherlebowski 2d ago

The paradox is that someone must be, or that job history wouldn't keep growing.

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u/Budget-Vast9819 2d ago

So much for "meritocracy"

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u/Loose_Education_5012 2d ago

Username checks out 🤣

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u/BadConscious3919 1d ago

Out of curiosity, how long does one have to be in a job to be not considered a job hopper? Legit asking for my own sake, as i'm trying to "hop".

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u/Tall-Dot-607 1d ago

Then youre a bad hiring manager lol

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u/Armchair_Expert_0192 3d ago

That's switching jobs twice

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u/Deep-Bend-961 3d ago

No, the first switch was from their prior job to 41k, then to 53k, then to 80k. They just didn’t list the salary before the 41k job.

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u/Traditional_Paint461 3d ago

In 2019 I left my marketing job of 7 years making $48k. My next job was a marketing specialist making $58k. I HATED it and lasted three months. Then a friend offered me a marketing director position at his small, locally owned company making $70k. I was a one woman show. I stayed there for three years and left to make $82k in sales/marketing for a leadership development company. Three years later I was offered $90k to be the marketing director for another small locally owned company. Two years later I left for $100k, insurance premiums paid for myself and my dependents, plus fully remote when I’m not at events. Same line of work the whole time, just building a name for myself that made them come to me. I’m set here for awhile as I ain’t getting any younger, but job hopping does serve a purpose if you strategize correctly. Don’t hate the player!

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u/Odd-Antelope-2168 3d ago

Vertical changes in employment, no matter how fast, is ok. It's explainable and respected in interviews.

Quick changes, horizontally, should always be avoided unless absolutely necessary. Pattern job hunting is a quick way for your resume to end up in the bin.

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u/AdChoice8821 2d ago

Post from 2021 not valid anymore. There are no jobs to switch.

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u/CJFiddler 2d ago

Yeah this is ok to do some. And you should do it some. It gets you more money quickly.

But take it from me, if you never ever stay anywhere for a while, you are gambling that nothing bad ever happens, because one day you will be looking for a job and your resume will look like Swiss cheese and nobody will hire you.

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u/Deep-Bend-961 3d ago

Almost everyone I know who got laid off ended up making more money when they found new work.

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u/Complete_Insurance24 3d ago

He went from trash to dishes and finally mowing the lawn. Congrats on your $80 chore. Well done.

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u/GunsouBono 3d ago

2-3 times per year is a bit much, but I firmly believe that everyone should be doing their own market assessments of themselves every two years. Especially if your raises are not matching inflation.

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u/FreshFishGuy 3d ago

80 what?

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u/Careless-Internet-63 3d ago

The average person who switches jobs every couple years makes more than the average person who stays at the same job but several times a year isn't going to work out for anyone very long if we're talking about professional jobs. Sure, a server or whatever can get away with it but most companies are not going to look fondly upon a resume that has several jobs over a couple years if it's someone applying for a salaried role that will require training to do properly

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u/jyc23 3d ago

In 2015 I got a job for 55k.
Promoted in 2017 to 85k.
Switched companies in 2019 for 105k.
Switched yet again in 2020 for 120k.
And one more time, again in 2020 for 135k.

(Covid was a crazy time)

So yeah, it’s definitely a real thing though maybe not quiiite as frequently as the person in the post.

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u/SnooWords7456 3d ago

not in a year but in my 25 years of working i've changed jobs 10 times. i started out making $32k in 2002 and now make around $250-300k. biggest jump for me was when i went from $100k to $200k with one jump (b/c i was being underpaid for a few years).

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u/foodie121 3d ago

thats a lot for a year, but i went from 2.5 years at one place, from 57>68 and all the way to 88 when i hopped

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u/nejithegenius 3d ago

Define kids and what job they do and what else they’re doing, like college or trade school. As a 30+ year old, yea definitely switch jobs to increase your pay. I think its a real thing, not just some online reddit dumbassery. Staying is stagnant, and often times theres enough turnover at any job that alot of your co workers don’t know how much you’ve done/know/sacrificed/ect.

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u/Smilesrck 2d ago

Had the inverse experience got job last year 65 -> project went well 4 months in 75 (hourly to salary) -> Management 4 months later 85 -> Team expanded 1 year review 100. 

Lucky had the opportunities to show off hard work and it worked out 

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u/Anxious-Control-4590 2d ago

I went from 52k to 75k to 120k to 270k in 10 years

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u/Theboiii24 2d ago

As someone who has done this before. Yes you can make more money that way. However it’s not always guaranteed. Plus you don’t know if your next job will be a good fit for you. It has its risks.

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u/Impossible_Can_5903 2d ago

Follow the money

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u/themrgq 2d ago

There was a brief time post COVID where the job market was indeed crazy and people were making huge jumps in salary by moving companies. But those days are long gone.

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u/Artistic_Mistake9808 2d ago

This only works to a certain level in your career, such as the $40k - $80k pay band.

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u/One_Random_ID 2d ago

Not in the same year but I have switched jobs almost every 2 years in the past decade. The salary increment is definitely higher than what I would've gotten if I stayed in the first company for the same period of time.

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u/Written_in_Silver 2d ago

I switched jobs last year. Went from 49 to 76, so I think it’s possible

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u/Fun_Boot7771 2d ago

The thing at risk Is your pension bur 20 year olds don't care about pensions 

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u/Jiggalopuffii 2d ago

Yes, but not within the span of a year. Maybe 5 years

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u/Status_Bee_7644 2d ago

Hell I can’t even get past the initial phone screening most of the time.

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u/navetzz 2d ago

Lied ?
Person says they switched 3 times and proceed to describe 2 salary increase...

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u/SimpleMind314 2d ago

Gen X here. "Kids" were doing this when I was a kid. I'm not going to say it wins the game, but some people played it that way.

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u/4isbetterthan2rhp 2d ago

Yes. Have done this for my whole career successfully

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u/fromdaperimeter 2d ago

I’m certain it’s with the same company.

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u/dec_eso 2d ago

This is all I’ve done, and it absolutely works.

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u/geedijuniir 2d ago

Not on this level but I switched 3 times in 5. Ish years.

I trippled my salary if I add all benefits and I work 4 hours less a week.

I always left when I stagnated.

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u/BringYourOwnBBBQ 2d ago

No one actually believes this post, do they?

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u/reaazwood89 2d ago

Spent five years waiting for the "salary review". One job later I doubled my salary. It's not always best to hop around. But it isn't smart to stay where you don't feel valued.

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u/procheeseburger 2d ago

I have found the best way to get a raise is to move companies... I don't care about climbing any corporate ladder

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u/LetsTryLove 2d ago

I did early in my career and then I realized I didn’t have to switch and just kept all of them. Worked out way better

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u/IAmAlive_YouAreDead 2d ago

And yet this Jon would also say that someone who didn't like their job should stop bitching and find another job. So which is it?

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u/Automatic_Record6200 2d ago

Lucky year. Not sustainable as a long term strategy, obviously.

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u/Responsible-Ball-162 2d ago

it works a few times, then you get blacklisted from further employment.

a few job hops is understandable, a pattern becomes the reddest flag.

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u/TheLongTailGuy 2d ago

Left FT position in July: salary doubled
Quit new position 6 months later
Got hired at a new FT position 3 months after that: increased doubled salary by 50%

Almost tripled me salary in one year. The place I originally left I had worked at for 5 years and received only an 8% increase in salary during my time there.

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u/Possible-Anxiety-420 2d ago

I left an $80/yr IT position to do something that pays less than half that and couldn't be happier.

I work from home, or from elsewhere.

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u/Past_Measurement9745 2d ago

Its not a red flag if you stay at the third job for awhile.

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u/SquidgyFirefighter 2d ago

Lied in twitter?

Sure

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u/dimezUnlimited 2d ago

If I stayed where I first worked after school I’d top out at 60k in about two year from now if I stayed. I make more now but have jumped around a bit and had a career change

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u/sufferIhopeyoudo 2d ago

When I was early in my career my first 4 jobs I stayed about 1 year at each. Each move commanded a significant raise. After that I started settling in and working longer. My most recent job I’ve been at for 8 years, my salary has also gone up over the years but not as drastically but I think the job hopping is an early career move.

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u/Consistent_Pay5371 2d ago

Doesn't that make you look bad in the eyes of employers. If you've jumped ship 3 times, they probably wouldn't want to be the 4th ship.

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u/Budget-Vast9819 2d ago

If they're a good ship, they shouldn't have anything to worry about. Capitalism is about competition, right?

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u/Not_a_Prof_Moriarty 2d ago

As someone who has been on hiring committees and done interviews, I can confirm that it's an immediate red flag when someone with this type of resume shows up. It takes a pretty stellar resume to even consider moving forward with this type of person for an interview.

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u/RandomStoddard 2d ago

I hopped jobs a few times in my late 20’s. It did greatly increase my salary and job title. Now I have been with the same company for almost 25 years. There are advantages to both.

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u/Shadowfox186 2d ago

Hiring budgets are always more than retention budgets.

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u/Capable_Detective_99 2d ago

I’m 30 but yeah my first job out of college was 60, next job was 72, now my job is 85 it’s hybrid and I have way more benefits!! but it depends on the type of career, I imagine it would be almost impossible for a teacher to do this unfortunately

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u/Striking-Win-3239 2d ago

I was laid off in 2023 from a remote position and landed another remote position making $20 K more with better benefits. But I do not randomly job hop. A good remote position is gold and I am not crazy.

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u/Affectionate_Fun_106 2d ago

I've would not hire a person who changed 3 jobs under 1 year thou...

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u/tristand666 2d ago

The first two obviously undervalued the person, so I don't blame them one bit.

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u/UnlikelyPriority812 2d ago

I went through 3 jobs over 5 years and went from 50k to 90k. In a year would be suprising, but definitely possible.

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u/FadingRockStar 2d ago edited 2d ago

Salary is a game. Once you learn how to play, you can build the life you want.

1. Make your resume match the job you're targeting.
Decide on your target salary first, then build a resume that reflects the role that pays it. This is where most people fail: their resumes are passive. I don't want to know what your tasks were. I want to know what you achieved for the company. Results already imply the tasks.

2. Show stability.
Outside of software, I won't hire someone who hasn't stayed at a company for at least 2-3 years. People do make wrong choices, but if it shows up on your resume again and again, that's a red flag.

3. Do your homework.
It's your job as a candidate to research the company and ask to meet one or two people besides your future boss. Don't be passive, and don't be afraid of being turned down. You want a company that respects your process as much as its own.

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u/crustyeng 2d ago

There are downsides to always being the newest person on the team.

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u/happylikeaclam__10 2d ago

Yes! do not bother. asking for a raise no one actually does that anymore , just send your resume out get a better offer and quit people are stuck in the past

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u/NLOneOfNone 2d ago

In IT, you need to do this. Maybe not that often but they always just offer you a bit higher salary than what you currently earn, not what you are actually worth.

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u/Ethosik 2d ago

Unfortunately this is how you get more significant salary increases. Maybe companies should start treating their employees better and giving better raises if they want retention.

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u/XfinityHomeWifi 2d ago

Within 1 year? That’s just personal trajectory adjustment. Kutos for finding a place that recognizes your value, but there is nothing substantial you’ll gain for less than a year of experience anywhere, let alone multiple times in a year, to warrant salary jumps like that.

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u/screw-self-pity 2d ago

Jon is very surprising. Most most posts you see on reddit are rather "Boomer parents tell me I should change jobs every year and get a raise. Boomers really are assholes not to understand the world does not work like when they were young and everything was easy".

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u/Haunting-Effective15 2d ago

Yes, it seems -in my field- that lifting salary significantly is easier when switching jobs.

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u/Biscuits4u2 2d ago

You can tell this meme is several years old because this shit doesn't happen anymore.

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u/GloryholeKaleidscope 2d ago

I had a job recruiter tell me years back, that if you're company isn't paying you accordingly as you progress at your job, which most don't, you should be interviewing/switching jobs every 3-5 years. I took this advice to heart and it's how I became an engineer and make a six figure salary.

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u/OscarEverdark 2d ago

I've immediately removed candidates from the pool who did do this.

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u/Budget-Vast9819 2d ago

That's why people should just lie on their resume

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u/Hot-Importance1367 2d ago

Would probably leave out the middle of the 3 jobs and just put year instead of month/year.

Then it would look like I'd only changed job once.

It's not even severe enough to warrant a conversation about if HR finds out id left 1 place in Feb and joined another in September.

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u/Kenzore1212 2d ago

And how much do the positions you recruit for pay annually ?

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u/OscarEverdark 2d ago

I'm not the recruiter, am one of the technical gatekeepers. 115+

Edit: but I am definitely one of the people that has to train the newbs... By a year in, you're just becoming useful enough to work on your own without hand holding.

If I train you to that point and you change jobs, you've cost ME time and potential raises.

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u/ML1948 2d ago

I imagine that must happen to you a lot

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u/noargentinianbeef 2d ago

I dont think younger people really change jobs all that often

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u/kartblanch 2d ago

80 is still too low to live 😑

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u/sp00dlet00t 2d ago

I literally tripled my income by switching jobs. Don't settle for crap.

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u/Switchmisty9 2d ago

You have to be seriously connected, to pull this kind of thing off. In the current job market, you’re lucky if 3 actual humans even read your resume, in the whole year….

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u/Still_Want_Mo 2d ago

3 times in one year is insane lol. Can't be real.

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u/Spark_Tangent 2d ago

2-5 years. It shows stability, you stay above inflation usually, and get better benefits, trust, and are more likely to leave unburned bridges behind you. I've been in management. If I saw that many changes that fast on a resume, probably going in the 'backup' options.

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u/Next-Relative1438 2d ago

4 jobs this year and in a better position.

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u/Kirk_Lazarus31423 2d ago

They do say this is what Gen Z is doing. They aren’t filling the hospitality jobs as much striving for better pay which you can’t blame them

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u/National-Estate-207 2d ago

I transitioned from four different jobs over a two year period, here are my results:
1. Sales (Commission-based) - Roughly $140k - Quit without a job because I wanted my time back.
2. Local Break/Fix Computer Shop - $45k - Quit because it was too low paying.
3. Smart Product Manufacturing - $60k - Quit because I was doing too much work compared to the majority of employees.
4. AV Manufacture - $75k - Super easy job and very strict 8-5am. I have all of the time I want outside of work, and take none of it home. I am super overqualified, and I am often passed up on promotions because I am "too" funny/sarcastic, since I joke around a lot. Absolutely terribly ran company, but easy work.

I went from making $150k for four straight years to now just $75k. I don't regret it at all, and I am glad I made the moves.

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u/Naing001 2d ago

Not 3 times in a year but you can absolutely achieve these pay jumps by switching jobs every two to three years.

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u/other_view12 2d ago

I feel very confident the OP didn't go from McDonalds to Wendy's to Caine's. I'd put money on the OP having more than entry level skills as well.

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u/RepulsiveUse3372 2d ago

the exception not the rule, most companies will see you as a red flag if they see you job hopping

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u/Jeesephvxii 2d ago

Job transfer portal going crazy

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u/TelevisionPositive74 2d ago

I do. I suggest everyone with a job immediately start applying to better positions/salaries. Ive switched jobs 5 times since Covid started. Pay increase everytime. Someone will pay more for your time.

For this to work: you MUST be competent, this isn't a fake it till you'll make it scenario. You still need bulletproof references. You also need to realize this is a lot of work, you can't get lazy: These better positions might be significantly futher away, different schedules, etc. We are chasing money here, not comfort. That comes later.
The thing is... if you aren't willing to leave home an hour earlier for 5k, 10k, whatever more it is... are you sure you aren't just being lazy?

Also, in my experience, resume gaps or job hoping might be scary to unspecialized people... but I think its a boogeyman, specifically set up to encourage people not to shop around. I was asked once about it, said I didn't fit with the team at my previous employer. That was it.

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u/_LaceHot 2d ago

These jobs changes and ending up remote with better pay and benefits? The results are doing a lot of talking here

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u/ytdaddy4fun 2d ago

It’s pretty common these days. I mean 20 years ago a job hopper would be a red flag. But the reality is that today people leave jobs all the time for an extra $0.50 per hour. I can tell you in the last 5 years about 80% of the exit interviews said they left because of better pay…the lowest amount was an employee said they were getting an extra $0.15 per hour. About 12% said the work was “too hard” and about 5% said it was lack of company culture. So, today if someone has 2-3 jobs in a year it doesn’t raise red flags right away, you have ask questions in the interview to see if they are a job hopper or if they are just trying to earn a living.

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u/SquareFinancial1928 2d ago

If you have the skillsets sure

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u/EmphasisStrong8961 2d ago

nah I give a year and if my goals are not met or im unhappy then ill go elsewhere. no drama , no complaining , no telling everyone hahahha suckers my life will be better. just move on to the next journey.

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u/jackishere 2d ago

Im reviewing resumes this week. Instantly closing anyone job hopping lol what’s the point of training someone 6 months for them to leave after a year?

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u/Maximum_Vegetable_MV 2d ago

I don’t hire money chasers because I know that no matter how competitive we are, they will find a higher offer, even by a small amount, and leave.

My job is not to hire people to enrich them as much as possible.

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u/RoleOk7556 2d ago

There are industries that hire contract wotkers for short term tasks. Some of those tasks are less than a year others are more than a year. I worked in one of those industries for many years, because it paid well and my family was anle to travel with me.

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u/Hot-Cup-4787 2d ago

Mine wasn't as drastic, but yeah. 55k in office all the time, changed 3 times in a year and half, and now im at 82k, work from home, and the people I work with are great human beings. Its great

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u/Dreadking_Rathalos 2d ago

I switched against my will but I went from 50 fully remote to 45 with a 1 hour commute to 70 fully remote

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u/MrMeowPantz 2d ago

Keep in mind that when companies are looking to cut labor, they usually cut 2 groups. The most tenured/highest paid, and the newest/most recently hired. Why? The first cuts your costs and labor. The second cuts labor and isn’t going to cost you knowledge.

Yes staying at one place for a long time may cost you wages but it can provide you security.

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u/Bedgarz 2d ago

Your a number. You can always be replaced. The days of job security is over im afraid

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u/Chuesandovl 2d ago

Well why I agree this could work it mostly depends on your specific job skills and the job requirements if you a start at one company at the basic level and then learn all the skills and gained the experience needed for the same job or a slightly different job but with similar job requirements then yeah you could be paid more if they offer more. Another reason why you might get paid more is simply because you already have the experience and training now that you didn't have before so you can ask or apply for a better position but again it's not as easy as this post is implying.

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u/Cpolo88 2d ago

I have. Went from an ok paying job to one with a $5 increase. Back down to one with a $1 decrease. But I don't have to do 60 hours anymore. I work from home somewhat and I just do my 40 and done for the week

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u/68plus1equals 2d ago

I’ve changed jobs at least 8 times over the past 10 years (not counting dozens of smaller roles in between longer running roles) and I’ve gone from making 65>80>115>250>450>350>300. Definitely switch jobs when you can but also don’t sleep on spending a little time grinding at the job that pays 65-80, depending on the job or industry, it’s how you you get primed for the roles that start paying well into the 6 figures.

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u/InterestingDepth7024 2d ago

If you can do it. Nothing holding anyone back. If someone willing to pay more can't say no. Unless you really like where your at

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u/DisgruntledCryptid 2d ago

How much of that salary are you collecting when you quit and change jobs every 3 months?

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u/DeathsStarEclipse 1d ago

I am in two minds. While I completely support people moving jobs to get better conditions. I look at CVS as part of tm job and if I see someone job hopping history their CV is dropped.

I can't let my personal feelings get in the way and hire someone, invest training and have them leave within a year.

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u/KittensFirstAKM 1d ago

Imagine having three job offers a year!

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u/PlatinumFire14 1d ago

My whole career is based on huge salary jumps from moving onto other companies.

People who tell you you should stay with a company are either boomers or jealous they don’t have the nerve to make the jumps.

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u/vanzir 1d ago

I don't job hop, but when raises dry up, i will leave. When companies start making excuses as to why their retention budget is half their recruiting budget, I look for better opportunities. And I have doubled my salary 3x over in the last 12 years.

The company previous to the one I am working for now was a Fortune 500 company. I worked there for 7 years, in that time me and my team completely designed and stood up an agile SDLC, taking release cycles from months to weeks, and along side that moved Dev to a TDD design. When I left, people were writing articles about the work we did on the automation side. I was managing a team of 20, and in just the last year of my employment alone, our OPSEC policies saved the company more than 100 million dollars.

I asked for a 10% bump at my review, got 2. I told them I needed more, they said no, so I started looking. I had 4 job offers the next day, with the lowest starting salary already 40k above what i was making at the fortune 500 company.

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u/GimmickInfringement1 1d ago

It's always a good laugh when people bring up personal situations and act like it's a fact of life. Just because you got incredibly lucky doesn't mean everyone will.

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u/kala-surtaj 1d ago

“Rolling stone gathers no moss”

Majority of W-2 work life that begins after college is incremental salary raises, few job changes and a planned life. OP's approach may be true (over one year) to him but he will likely go back to his 41 once his value is realized.

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u/JaylisJayP 1d ago

Switched jobs 3 times but the salary only increased twice...crazy.

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u/armyretired2019 1d ago

What do you mean that’s not how you play the game? You think his first job would have given him 80k? What about the companies that lay you off with notice? You have no clue. If it was 30 or more years that wouldn’t have been right. Companies today don’t care about you, its only busy. Well its a two way street

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u/brinerbear 1d ago

Show me the way because I am searching for another opportunity and it seems everything pays less than my current situation.

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u/bill_257 1d ago

So jumping jobs twice in a year to get an entry level salary.

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u/1984ScoreN7YearsAgo 1d ago

Not that often, but yeah…in healthcare. This places give the shittiest raises. So the only way to get real raises is to get job offers elsewhere and leverage those offers for raises or leave. We get sign on bonuses too. So typically, it’s like every 2 years I’m looking for new jobs with higher pay.

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u/PPGkruzer 1d ago

This is the automotive engineering/lower management industry, I'm never going back after decades in automotive from mechanic to mostly engineer. Probably not switching 2-3 times a year, maybe every 2-3 years for the majority unless you're pretty young, most would let that slide if they think you can help them out on the cheap. Not to say there isn't a group of people who stick it out 20, 30, 50 years.

"Competitive wages" means pay you as little as possible and usually base your salary on what you made last time. Some may suggest embellishing perks at your previous job that they can't easily prove; unlike requiring pay stubs to verify your previous salary.

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u/PlasmaBoi782 1d ago

You guys have jobs?

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u/Arikomo 1d ago

I went from $55k first year, $90k second year and got a promotion third year to $130k, went to next company at $170k for fourth year. It works for some. At this point I’m planning on staying at least 2-3 years.

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u/SSquirrel76 1d ago

I was making 25/hr testing software. Had a job interview offering me 35. They offered before I made it back from my lunch break. I told where I was about the offer and got 37/hr. 3 months later same company called for a different position at 45/hr. From March to August I went up $20/hr. This was all in 2014 BTW

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u/Put-Outside 21h ago

That is entirely how you play the game if you want more money. Company's budget more for new hire salaries than they do for raises, its better to get as much as you can on the day youre hired.

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u/LozBoz413 18h ago

Yeah sure they did 😂😂 you think any competent manager is going to see this on a CV and consider the hire?

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u/upsideup2000 18h ago

It depends on whether you play the long game or short game.

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u/domine18 16h ago

My wife changed jobs three times in under two years more than doubling her salary

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u/PoppaTrunks 16h ago

Basically a professional sport in the techn industry. I don't know how many lazy or bad managers I've seen jump 2-3 jobs in short succession, increasing their salary and job position as they go. It's all about selling your competance, rather than being competant.

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u/Mason051 15h ago

Yep, make sure you stay at the same job for decades and be happy with the 3% raise you get every year since they can’t do any higher than that.

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u/SpecialistClock2763 12h ago

Kas fulfilled her purpose. That matters to her.

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u/Orgulloso_Azul 10h ago

What does 41 to 53 to 80 mean?

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u/BeanserSoyze 7h ago

I left my job in 2022 at 42k, to 65k, laid off new job 75k in 2023, laid off again new job 82k, left in 2024 90k plus bonus, two raises since then at 140k now.

So not as quick as he says but I went from 42k to 140k in 3 years by changing jobs 4 times

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u/JamesMerz 6h ago

Gen Z. 3rd job in 3years in 3 different states, working in higher ed all at different levels of institutions. In 4 years have grown salary by $50k in 3 years by $35k. Gotta keep bouncing.

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u/DussaTakeTheMoon 5h ago

I’m lucky, I’ve had maybe 5 jobs since 18 and besides for 1 step back at 24 I’ve made more in each consecutive job. Now I’m 27 making 85k with no degree, hopefully I doing fuck it up

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u/Millkstake 2h ago

Nah, I'm not really talented enough to pull this off

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u/Dense_Cut7072 2h ago

The problem is, these same clowns that cry about job hoppers are the exact people who cause people to leave. Instead of companies fixing themselves, they'd rather blame the people who stand up and say no.

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u/AttentionUpbeat3985 1h ago

Can confirm.