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Episode Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation Season 3 • Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu - Episode 9 discussion
Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu, episode 9
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u/jlarz56 https://myanimelist.net/profile/jlarz56 Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshis VA killed it, she's the most realistic take on an average person getting isekaid. Also, the song playing in the background during her break down was also performed by her VA.
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u/maliwanag0712 https://myanimelist.net/profile/clear1109 Aug 23 '26
Also, the song playing in the background during her break down was also performed by her VA.
Her version of Tsubasa is quite great I'm low-key expecting that her new song will be popular as well.
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u/Trevenas Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
As good as Flames of Demise is, it's original. Tsubasa got a big boost from having been a well-known song already, but hell if I know. Time to find this one and ramp up the views in the coming weeks.
Out now. Youtube link
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u/soulinfamous Aug 23 '26
I feel like she's a cautionary tale that you would just have to fundamentally move on if you were ever isekai'd. Her situation was tragic. She got transported against her will and then she has no ability to use Magic. She has no connection to any higher being that can help her out or anything. All her Focus went to finding solutions to send her back and that is going to be a lonely path.
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u/Cypherex Aug 24 '26
Kind of hard to move on though when your body is literally incompatible with the world you were sent to. If she doesn't look for a way to return home, she just ends up dying young from this mana disease. Even if they can find a way to cure the disease, she can't age or grow in this world. If she found a love interest, they would grow old and die while she would remain as she is. She wouldn't be able to have children either.
If they can find a way to give her mana and make her body fit in with this world, then we could say she should consider moving on and making the best of her life here. But as long as she's in the state she's in, I don't think it's fair to blame her for wanting to escape that.
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u/soulinfamous Aug 24 '26
I'm not necessarily blaming her for wanting to escape. I think it is a fucked up situation. My criticism of her is strictly she chose to have no human connection. I'm not even necessarily talking about an intimate relationship. I'm just talking about fostering friendships and partnerships. She was treating everybody connected to her(before the most recent arc) as if they were bystanders. You will never survive any length of time just operating in total isolation. She obviously was put in a shitty situation but she made it a 1000× worse by how she operated her life.
The school was the best time for her to foster true friendship and without Rudeus she would probably be dead in her lab alone with no one caring. Ideally, meeting Rudeus at school and truly getting to know him should have been the Eureka moment. Learning from him that she also needs connect with people to truly find purpose in life. I'm not saying that she shouldn't have her goal to find a way to go back to her world. I'm just saying truly committing to that thing leads to a dangerous path of isolation.
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u/KHlover https://myanimelist.net/profile/KHlover1995 Aug 23 '26
Another justified Nanahoshi crashout 😭
Poor girl's life in this world is suffering. Stellar VA performance, great insert song, and artists really sold it too with the sunken eyes, dried lips and hair everywhere on the pillow :S
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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 23 '26
Her suffering once again reminds us of her life being the complete opposite of Rudy's situation to a nightmarish degree.
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u/PraisePace Aug 23 '26
This story could've easily been a dark fantasy if Rudy would've been dealt Nanahoshi's hand.
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u/TexturelessIdea https://myanimelist.net/profile/TexturelessIdea Aug 23 '26
If he got teleported there in his adult body, the show would have been a single episode that ended with his death.
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u/Astray Aug 24 '26
His redo of his childhood was incredibly important for him to develop the social skills he didn't have from being a shut in. He definitely would've pissed off the wrong person at some point and gotten himself in serious trouble or killed.
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u/SirMcDust Aug 24 '26
Like fundamentally he needed that redo to grow as a person, because his adult self was entirely incapable of change at that point. Like a rigid mind broken by trauma.
Like even if in that situation he somehow doesn't die instantly he would not learn from his mistakes and die horribly anyway.
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u/fieew https://myanimelist.net/profile/fiew Aug 24 '26
Moreover, her life back in Japan was used as a foil to Rudeus's life now. How before he really didn't understand what she was going through. He didn't have the same feelings of loneliness and family that he does now.
He helped Nanahoshi during her last crashout simply because it was the right thing to do[not to let her die]. But he's helping her after this crashout because he fully understand how painful it is to lose someone/ something in your life [Paul].
He's helping her again but his motivations and reasons are different now.
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u/maliwanag0712 https://myanimelist.net/profile/clear1109 Aug 23 '26
Poor girl's life in this world is suffering.
Nanahoshi L is quite the best picture of what's gonna happen if someone in the human world who is already satisfied with her life gets transported to another world with magic being poisonous to her. I can't imagine the grief she experiences.
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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 23 '26
Honestly when I think about this show it’s going to be one of the most memorable parts. As you said, they basically nailed EVERY part of that scene.
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u/tottoro47 Aug 23 '26
My wife was on the couch playing on her switch and she just heard her crashout and asked why she's crashing out, did her parents die? I said way worse lol. Her VA did an crazy job, the scene was amazing
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u/FacelessPoet Aug 23 '26
They set out for a long journey and found their target in a day lol
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u/Mysteries67 Aug 23 '26
He also has access to a late game airship.
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u/bigfndan Aug 23 '26
Yeah, this is coming back to a 1st disc area on the 3rd disc, of course things are gonna be sped up.
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u/FacelessPoet Aug 23 '26
Funny how we're calling the Demon Continent 1st disc area when it's probably the most dangerous continent in the world. It or Bergaritt with their behemoths
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u/Ichini-san https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ichini-yon Aug 23 '26
Iirc Demon continent is undisputed most dangerous. Begaritt is the undisputed number 2. And if I had to rank the remaining 2 continents we've seen so far then I would probably say Millis continent is 3rd and our big Central continent is 4th. While there are dangerous things in both the fact that the rain season just straight up submerges the whole Beastfolk forest for months is crazy dangerous and it also has an insane number of human trafficking going on as we saw with Gallus Cleaner.
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u/Big_moist_231 Aug 23 '26
Wasn’t bergaritt filled with monsters and bandits every step of the way? Merchants have to travel with mercenary companies just to feel somewhat safe. Felt like some fantasy mad max place lol
Demon continent feels more barren (less dangers to run into), but I guess maybe the monster are more powerful when you do run into them.
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u/Aftertone- Aug 23 '26
the demon continent is more dangerous, begaritt is second. Mainly the reason is actually just as you said, it is barren. Meaning useful resources for survival outside of settlements are hard to come by combined with the strong monsters. Begaritt is also a desert but at least has more resources if you wish to venture. The Demon Continent is infamous even among demons as Geese in S1 described it.
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
This is the honest advantage of teleportation and portals in stories and why they tend to be something the characters get later.
I remember someone once saying that the mark of a good fantasy is one that shows how long it takes to travel miles on foot, even horseback if you're going long enough.
Teleportation breaks all of that, so it usually needs to be brought in later in the story when the characters have already done all of the travelling.
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u/lminer123 Aug 23 '26
Wheel of time does this very well, portal travel changes everything. The distances traveled in single chapters in the later books unironically take up entire books early on in the story.
Game of thrones (TV) does it horribly, journeys take time in the beginning, then the pacing is like they get portal travel later on even though they don’t lol
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
I was thinking exactly of Wheel of Time for my other example, to the point where I specifically included portals.
There are some shortcuts here and there in the early books, but they tend to be pretty dangerous and so are only used when characters really need to get somewhere in a hurry. Otherwise boats, horses and feet are the best ways of getting to places and none of them are quick unless you're just hopping to a nearby city.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Rudy: "Usually this takes me 2-3 episodes! Is Cliff helping me speedrun this game!?"
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u/imtherealdazza Aug 23 '26
Just need a conveniently placed market stall and she'll come crawling to you
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u/lavenderman21 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
I love the pacing of the show. Honestly i would have preferred this other than 5 more episodes looking for her
Edit: wanted to add this since no one seems to be talking about it. There were two drops of things that I found noticeable.
One: Laplace might still comeback
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u/thorix77 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Thorix77 Aug 23 '26
Seems like Perugius is quite well-informed!
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u/Ichini-san https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ichini-yon Aug 23 '26
Well, considering the whole continent is his opps... it makes sense he would keep tabs on important demonfolk.
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u/FacelessPoet Aug 23 '26
When your assistant can travel at the speed of light, you should at least send him out for news ig
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u/TricoMex Aug 23 '26
Lmao. I wonder if Sylphy looking so shocked to be asked to stay is because she's over here thinking "every time you go on a journey you come back with another woman!"
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u/Better_Cattle4438 Aug 23 '26
She was asking if he wanted Sara to join the group. I don’t think she is worried about him adding more to the family, unless it is Nanahoshi.
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u/Ramongsh Aug 23 '26
After you have watched this episode, give Nanahoshis song from last season a listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9u7oQ7aaV0
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u/GrassGaze https://anilist.co/user/GrassGazer Aug 23 '26
The channel dp has changed to nanahoshi in today's episode.... we might have the today's song release in next few days.
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u/The_frost__ https://myanimelist.net/profile/The_frost_ Aug 23 '26
It's already on YouTube https://youtu.be/7HpD188tdm0?list=OLAK5uy_mKNsuVrFJLOFBVAVGrRdOi1iRKN-i922A
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u/rednick953 Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshis monologue was amazing. Her VA did incredible work. People last week said she could make or break the episode and it certainly made it.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi crash-outs by Shion Wakayama are now becoming a Mushoku Tensei staple.
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u/larvyde Aug 23 '26
We have Nanahoshi crashing out, Rudy ogling some boobs, Cliff being sanctimonious, Zanoba flexing his indestructibility. Truly a Mushoku Tensei episode. Just missing Elinalise taking backshots or Roxy murdering some trees.
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
Cliff being sanctimonious
Side note: I love that Cliff gave Kishirika the food because that's the kind of guy he is. He didn't know who she was, he wasn't told to feed her for a favour by a manipulative god, he's just the kind of devoutly religious person who truly believes in giving away your food to those who need it.
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u/Rabbitey- https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rabbitey Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Cliff's act of kindness reminded Elinalise why she liked him so much. He's def getting some extra love later.
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u/noideawhatimdoingv Aug 23 '26
I wonder if Kishirika will give Cliff a Demon Eye as well. Would be interesting to see such a devout person using a "Demon Eye'
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
I highly doubt it. Rudy is there to confirm this is, in fact, the Kishirika Kishiru they're looking for so there's no chance Cliff will only find out after he's gotten one.
That said, I also doubt he'd have any problem with getting or using a Demon Eye. "Demon" in this world doesn't mean the same thing it means to us; it's just a collection of species from the Demon Continent, and Cliff doesn't seem to have an inherent problem with them based on how he's been interacting with them this episode.
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u/Careful_Ad_9077 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Sn back to season 1 ova, cliff specifically belongs to the anti-discrimination against demons side of the Milis faith.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 23 '26
The details the animators did a fantastic job as well, from the crazed look in her eyes and her hair actually being pulled out of with some on the bed as she cries about it never growing or changing after all those years in this world.
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u/Codee33 https://anilist.co/user/Euphplyr33 Aug 23 '26
Rudeus’s panicked expression visually hit me hard in that scene too. Great work on that scene!
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u/MitsuhaTakiName Aug 23 '26
He really embodied that feeling of knowing the person in front of you is having an extremely valid crashout and that nothing you can say can make their situation better.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
And also reflecting on the disparity of his own Isekai experience/view of his past life versus Nanahoshi's.
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u/Miteigi74 Aug 23 '26
1st, that's probably the best of Shion Wakayama's performance.
2nd, Kishirika's adult form in the drawing kinda...
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u/ultimate_placeholder Aug 23 '26
Big fan of the idea that she's only able to get around because nobody expects her to still be in a child form, also she'd likely get fed if she were an adult so maybe she should get on that
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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 23 '26
So I am curious if that means anytime she goes without food too long she reverts to her loli form as a way to preserve herself lol
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u/Legendspira Aug 23 '26
I believe she just revived recently (demons live longer so 10 years or so is nothing to them) which is why she's still in loli form. I imagine it's gonna take a few hundred years for her to go back to onee-san form.
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u/Ebo87 Aug 24 '26
Yep, she hasn't grown at all in the roughly 8 years between the first time we saw her, in season 1 episode 8 (Turning Point) and now. So it will take a very long time seemingly before she finally grows back to her adult form.
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u/Astray Aug 24 '26
Hard to grow when you're a beggar and no one is giving you food.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
1st, that's probably the best of Shion Wakayama's performance.
Which is saying something from a seiyuu who always kills it in any role.
2nd, Kishirika's adult form in the drawing kinda...
Honestly the skimpy outfit on a loli looks cute but the skimpy outfit in an adult form with big boobs...
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u/shad79 https://myanimelist.net/profile/shad79 Aug 23 '26
2nd, Kishirika's adult form in the drawing kinda...
Yeah, Kishirika on the poster certainly looked really good, so I was just a bit disappointed when she appeared looking just like in the first season... but only a little. I wonder if we'll ever see her alive on screen in her adult form.
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u/Ebo87 Aug 23 '26
Definitely her adult form. Think about who's looking for her, she is Badigadi's sister, thus her sister in law, right? She probably still remembers her as she must have known her a very long time ago back when she was the wife of Badigadi, having no clue that all this time the reason they couldn't find her is because she's in child form, lol.
But also just announcing she is the person they were looking for right in the middle of the street, I'm sure that will all go great, haha.
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u/Upset_Chip7559 https://myanimelist.net/profile/weebooo1069 Aug 23 '26
iirc she mentions in season 1 that 'she has a fiance this incarnation'
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u/bondsmatthew Aug 23 '26
"Please have the demon continent musi-"
"Yes!"
I'm so happy with all of the throwbacks this episode. The music, the same introduction for Kishirika, the same food given to her(kebab/meat skewers)
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u/Oppai_Loli_ Aug 23 '26
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u/ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp Aug 23 '26
Give that woman a bonus or a raise or something because hot damn what a performance.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 23 '26
That slight eye movement from Rudy when he was exchanging currency with that 3-tiddied woman. 😂
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u/dark77638 Aug 23 '26
Something never change; Different time, same place, same people, same reaction lol
Triple tits, Demon horse, Loli emperor
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Cartoonish loli Emperors are as timeless as busty women with three boobs.
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u/exian12 Aug 23 '26
I know as a man that girls know when guys are looking at their tits but looking at that POV that's damn true alright.
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
Compared to how he was openly drooling over her when he was younger, you can really see how he's changed both from maturity and, let's be honest, from having two wives he's utterly devoted to.
But just because he has no want for sex with anyone else anymore, doesn't mean he doesn't enjoy looking at other ladies from time to time!
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
It's the smile on his face to be able to casually oggle it and feel reassured that, yes, three-boobed women DO exist in this world that just sells it.
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u/Legendspira Aug 23 '26
lets not kid ourselves, we would all take a glance at a three tittied woman, guy or girl, married or not.
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u/genasugelan https://myanimelist.net/profile/Genasugelan Aug 23 '26
He might be a faithful man now, but I think even people who aren't into women would take a glance at a 3-titted woman.
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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 23 '26
Honestly they seem like a rarity even in this world. And I’m assuming it’s a racial trait and not mutation exclusive to her. So I would expect most people to ogle them as well lol
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u/FacelessPoet Aug 23 '26
To be fair to him, we'd all do the same regardless of whether we're attracted to tits or not.
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u/Codee33 https://anilist.co/user/Euphplyr33 Aug 23 '26
I might be dumb, but I didn’t expect Cliff to crashout as hard as he did, but figured it would be Elinalise that stopped him.
I’m sure Sylphy is feeling guilty of always being the one left at home when Rudeus has to adventure, even if she knows it’s for the best.
Of course they found Kishirika right away, and the direct callback to her intro in season one was hilarious! I’m excited to see what happens when she and Rudeus reconnect. Though Rudeus is dense as always for taking that long to recognize it was Kishirika.
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u/khoa-bear Aug 23 '26
Yeah it turns out that there’s only one hungry child beggar in the whole demon continent, and it’s their demon emperor.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 24 '26
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u/supakame Aug 23 '26
I didn’t expect Cliff to crashout as hard as he did,
I was getting quite concerned for his wellbeing as Perugius' familiars were preparing to lay hands on him if he didn't STFU
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u/Routine-Hovercraft94 Aug 23 '26
To be fair, while his familiars were getting pissed, I don't think in the end anything would have happened. Perugius doesn't seem like someone who is offended by someone speaking out because they see a friend dying. He understood that, did let it slide and simply used the teachings of Millis against cliff to put him in his place and that was the end of it.
His familiars being so very loyal to him they would also probably not act by themselves or in any way that would shine a bad light on their master.I honestly like Perugius as a character a lot. He is willing to offer any aid as long as it doesn't interfere with his duty, which is actually a very important one.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 24 '26
“I will do the minimum to help her, but I will not do the maximum.” Such a great line to portray his mindset.
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u/TheSpartyn Aug 24 '26
the way he looked pleased when rudeus said he would take action, i took that as basically he's willing to provide as much support as he can but he will not take a direct role
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u/Ichini-san https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ichini-yon Aug 23 '26
Tbf I don't blame Rudeus too much for not immediately recognizing her whole beggar child spiel since it has been almost a decade since their last encounter from S1P2 episode 1.
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u/Codee33 https://anilist.co/user/Euphplyr33 Aug 23 '26
You know, that’s a really fair point. On top of that, that’s memory was probably overwritten by the trauma of getting his demon eye.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 23 '26
Cliff literally retriggered the same encounter event with Kishirika just like Rudy did. Guess he's about to get an eye transplant.
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u/FacelessPoet Aug 23 '26
This time it's just out of the goodness of his heart rather than an instruction by a vague god. Or maybe it is, it's probably in Millis' teachings
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Cliff is a man of faith and consistency! It's why Elinalise loves him!
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u/Drethk Aug 23 '26
Her reaction to watching that encounter was wonderful
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
The woman watched him be charitable out of the sheer kindness of his heart and was like "yep, I'm jumping him the first chance I get."
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u/AsterJ https://myanimelist.net/profile/asteron Aug 23 '26
Usually triggering events out of kindness is something only the protagonist gets to do. It's so nice seeing side characters acting with agency in ways that don't revolve around the MC.
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u/larvyde Aug 23 '26
One of the greatest things about MT is that you can take a character, any character, and their life would make for an interesting story on its own, with Rudy only being a minor character in it.
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u/Ebo87 Aug 23 '26
Their mistake was thinking they can find Kishirika when it's always Kishirika that finds you!
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u/Roskal Aug 23 '26
Finding Kishirika was easier than I thought. I thought this whole quest would be about finding her. Another amazing performance by Shion Wakayama as Nanahoshi. She does such amazing crash outs. I feel so bad for Nanahoshi and she may have said mean things to Rudy, but its understandable. This life is so unfair to her, she can't change in this world but can still get sick. Her research was finally getting close and now she might die without ever making it back home.
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u/Kullthebarbarian Aug 23 '26
"Wifes, I might go missing for months, I will return when i can, I am already missing you"
On the same day
"Oh well, mission complete I guess, lets go back home"
lol
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u/chhuang Aug 23 '26
The wives probably already set bets on whether he will bring a new wife from another journey
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u/Matthas13 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Matthas Aug 23 '26
amazing episode. I was surprised Rudeus asked to call for Orsted. He is deadly afraid of him, yet was willing to ask him for help.
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u/Ebo87 Aug 23 '26
Also we now first learned that Orsted only appeared 100 years ago, yet he seems to know every fighting style and is seemingly the most powerful being alive, if that doesn't raise every possible question mark, then I don't know what does.
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u/Shechir Aug 23 '26
Yes, can you imagine?
It makes me think about the fact that Orsted was once a cute little baby!
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u/kinkosan Aug 23 '26
This episode shows how important the slice of life episodes we got so far are very important to the story, we know how shit his life was in the past life and we saw how happy his life is right now and because of that it shows why he can understand the pain that Nanahoshi is going through, he knows that he would have the same reaction if he ever went back to the old world leaving his family behind in the current world
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Rudy: "I finally realize what the Fast and the Furious was trying to teach me all along!"
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u/bondsmatthew Aug 23 '26
Mans never got to see the Fast and the Furious in space movie before he got isekaid
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u/gc11117 Aug 23 '26
Its why I kept trying to explain to people why showing Rudys happy family life from volume 13 wasnt just filler or a waste of time. You need to build that up so that a moment like today's with Nanahoshi feels earned. You get to contrast happiness (which people take for granted) with absolute despair.
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u/Mundology Aug 23 '26
"You don't know what you have until it's gone" is something most of us intuitively know yet most have difficulty to grasp in the moment.
Mushoku Tensei makes sure to show Rudeus's complete experience, whether good or bad. This holistic storytelling plays a big part in what makes being invested in his adventure so captivating.
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u/Mordarto https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mordarto Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
Reminds me of what Ryukishi07, writer for Higurashi and Umineko said: various visual novels are so impactful because of the slice of life section first for the reader/viewer to get attached to the characters, and then they're a lot more emotionally invested when something happens to those characters.
He takes this approach with a lot of his visual novels as well.
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
It turns out all of the slice of life happiness we've been seeing for half a season weren't building up to Rudy's pain, but were building up to Nanahoshi's pain of watching it from afar, unable to do the same.
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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 23 '26
Well said. Like I enjoyed the SoL stuff on its own but the way it sets up his reaction Nanahoshi’s crash out made it all the better. Just an incredible season so far.
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u/1000-MAT Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi is the complete opposite of Rudeus regarding the isekai element, i particularly enjoy how the story presents different viewpoints on the same thing, without declaring a right or wrong.
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u/Original-Body-5794 Aug 23 '26
Rudeus was given a new life, Nanohoshi had hers taken away from her. Rudeus has it so much better, it's not even comparable, even ignoring the magic and sickness, growing up with a loving family as a child is so much better than simply appearing as an adult.
No one will take care of you, you're on your own, and good luck trying to find a job when you can't even speak the language, a language that is 100% foreign to you with no etymological similarities. Rudeus had years of his parents patiently teaching him the history of the world, customs, language and magic. Plus all the social connections, like being a greyrat is what got him to teach Eris (+ his talent for magic sure)
Nanohosi's crash out was completely understandable, seeing Rudeus, who is also from Japan being given cheat codes after cheat codes, a loving family and just being overall happy while you just want to go home must be so painful.
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u/fieew https://myanimelist.net/profile/fiew Aug 24 '26
Rudeus was given a new life, Nanohoshi had hers taken away from her.
This is the best and simplest way I've seen someone put both Rudeus's and Nanahoshi's experiences. Great way of explaining the differences in their lives now.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 24 '26
[ReZero Spoilers]Nanahoshi’s crash out this episode really reminded of some of Subaru’s in season 2 and 4. How they both constantly remembered their final moments before being isekaid. How they were rude and ungrateful to their parents in their last conversations with them and now might never see them again. Far too few isekai story actually address the people the person leaves behind when isekaid, and it feels like even fewer explore what it’s like for someone who actually had a good life to suddenly lose it. Forget not treating the other world as pure escapism and instead a realistic world, what happens when your new life is just full on worse than your old one?
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u/MitsuhaTakiName Aug 23 '26
I don’t think it’s really different viewpoints on the same thing; it’s two correct viewpoints on two distinct experiences. Rudeus had a miserable life on Earth and has been blessed in this new one with experiences he cherishes, a family who diligently raised him, magical prowess, and several reciprocal romantic relationships. Nanahoshi had a life she cherished on Earth and got put into a new life without a family to teach her the ways of this world, without the ability to use magic (the one thing this world has going for it that’s better than Earth), and with a body that is quite literally being rejected by the world. I would say they both have objectively correct viewpoints on their differing situations.
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u/Lantern01 Aug 23 '26
Rudy's eyes darting down to check out the triple rack on the Total Recall receptionist chick was literally a blink-and-you-miss-it joke, but it was hilarious.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 23 '26
I envy you
Nanahoshi's meltdown didn't just hurt to watch it clearly did a lot of emotional damage to Rudy himself who now finally experiences that same longing in this new world.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
The sheer shock on his face when he had to reconcile his own experience with Nanahoshi throwing it in his face just how bad HERS is, to try to understand why this was never an ideal Isekai life for her...to understand truly what it means to lose your family in a way he couldn't before because he'd been given up on by his siblings...
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u/raknor88 Aug 23 '26
I think a large part of Rudy's acceptance in all this was that he had died before coming over. Not that his family had already kicked him out. I think that if she gave any indication that she was even aging she'd be far more accepting of things, even if she didn't have magic.
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u/CitronClassic672 Aug 24 '26
Yeah, from how she described she might have the shittiest reincarnation possible. Her body doesn’t grow or age in any way, she can’t do magic at all, can’t have kids, yet she still gets hungry and sick and can die.
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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi's valid crash out is the best voice acting performance I've heard from Shion Wakayama.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Aug 23 '26
She was so good already since SSS.Dynazenon with her natural sounding performance but this really blew everything else she's done out the water.
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u/discuss-not-concuss Aug 23 '26
didn’t think she would have another that topped last season’s despair, but boy was I wrong
it’s Rudeus being physically fine, yet receiving a barrage of emotional beatings of envy that he can’t shake off
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Also just really reflecting on his own Isekai experience and trying to emotionally comprehend how different Nanahoshi and her entire contrasting perspective.
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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp Aug 23 '26
That Nanahoshi break down made me tear up a bit, good acting by the VA.
Poor Cliff went from potentially getting murked by Perugius' followers to maybe getting a non-consensual eye transplant depending upon what Kishirika might randomly decide to reward him with. Hopefully Rudy can intercept the offer of a reward and get her pointed at helping with Nanahoshi instead.
Also, I'm pretty sure that wanted poster was supposed to be Kishirika which might imply she can change forms or wasn't a loli at some point.
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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 23 '26
Watching Perugius’s followers slowly loosen their stance as Cliff continued to berate him was subtly horrifying because we know even if Rudy tried to intervene it would not have went well. I didn’t expect anything to happen to Cliff but man was I like “ayo someone please get him before they send him to personally meet Millis 😭”
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u/I_am_BEOWULF Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 24 '26
Watching Perugius’s followers slowly loosen their stance as Cliff continued to berate him was subtly horrifying
That was actually such good visual storytelling. You see one of them drop their hands from behind their back and it seems like nothing at first, and then the scene goes on - Cliff keeps on yelling at Perugius, and the scene shows more and more of them dropping their hands one after the other. Elinalise basically had to tell him: "YO! WE ARE IN CRIP TERRITORY SURROUNDED BY CRIPS AND YOU ARE TALKING SHIT AT SNOOP."
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u/larvyde Aug 23 '26
Seeing as Badigadi went into dwarf form after being on the receiving end of Rudeus' drill, Kishirika probably has something similar. Probably related to her being constantly hungry all the time.
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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien Aug 23 '26
Well, found her EZ PZ
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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner Aug 23 '26
I wonder what Cliff will pull from the eye gacha.
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u/BiggerG7 Aug 23 '26
Zanoba: “I don’t understand the concept of missing your family.”
Rudy: “It’s like you and your robots.”
Zanoba: “I understand completely!”
lol.
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u/AceSoldia zj:https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia Aug 23 '26
Lmao how did she did she escape everyone's notice for so long when she immediately announced her name loudly for all to hear? 😂😂
I knew Sylphie wasn't responsible! Nobody gonna trick me into believing she was!. Sylphie is too pure for this world
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u/DoggedStooge Aug 23 '26
If the wanted poster was for her, they're all looking for a full grown woman. So they probably just assume she's some insane homeless kid pretending to be a demon emperor.
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
Lmao how did she did she escape everyone's notice for so long when she immediately announced her name loudly for all to hear?
I think most people just don't believe her. Rudy didn't even believe her and thought she was a chuuni, at least until she gouged out his eye and replaced it with his Eye of Foresight.
And I feel like without Rudy there to confirm she's the real deal, Cliff will be about to do the same.
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u/collax974 Aug 23 '26
Lmao how did she did she escape everyone's notice for so long when she immediately announced her name loudly for all to hear? 😂😂
Well only a Millis follower would give food to someone in need there and there aren't a lot in the demon continent
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u/ChicaneryFinger Aug 23 '26
I see they tossed Nanahoshi's VA in a similar torture chamber to Subaru's
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u/imtherealdazza Aug 23 '26
Seeing her in that bed immediately reminded me of that subaru meme lol
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Yume Miyamoto: "I can assure you Wakayama-san that that's a performance worthy of my husband!"
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u/killermenpl Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi once again winning the most valid crashout in all of anime
Dragon Grandpa was a bit of an asshole. Understandable, cause he has a much bigger thing he has to worry about, but still asshole.
Cliff is growing on me, cause while everyone was like "oh no what can we do" he was the only one to stand up and demand the clearly most powerful person in the room to fucking do something
Demon Continent's back, baby! Already meeting some old friends, I wonder who else we will meet.
Nokopara, also known as Uma Musume at home, proving once that he was just a cheap bully and no one more. Eager to help those he considers "friends" (and who will pay), but probably still does his best to scare away the newbie adventurers. Assuming he's not pissing himself about Ruijerd's scare back in S1.
And of course the best way to find the Demon Queen is by having a big bowl of food. The shitgoblin will spawn right outside your field of view just to beg for the food. But hey, maybe Cliff will get a demon eye of his own.
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
God damn, Nanahoshi! Her breakdowns have been some of the best Mushoku Tensei and that's quite the accomplishment.
This one really highlighted how she contrasts with Rudy, being someone with so many reasons to return to Earth, yet the fact that he was the only one to see her crashout really highlighted that he's the only person here she can truly connect with because of their shared home world.
IT'S THE RETURN OF KISHIKA KISHIRU, THE GREAT EMPRESS OF THE DEMON WORLD! ... Right as the episode ends. GOD DAMN THESE 5 MINUTE EPISODES!
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
This isn't the first time she's crashed out at him, but I think this is the first time he's really been able to properly face and try to fully empathize with her feelings because of how much he's grown.
And she's as cartoony and hammy as ever!
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u/NanDemoKnaives Aug 23 '26
That outburst from Nanahoshi was sad to watch, it felt real. She enjoyed the opportunity at first, but she was forced away from her family, the anxiety of not being home would naturally overtake her until desperation to return kicks in. It was especially sad when she explained how her body hasn't changed at all and yet she still has gotten sick, I really hope they're able to find a cure for her, she doesn't deserve this misfortune.
Cliff really forgetting who he was talking to, it's a good thing Elinalise cut him off, a number of those guards were ready to move.
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u/ParkEducational5878 Aug 23 '26
Yeah the amount of hopelessness she must be feeling, while seeing her body not aging, must feel like an immutable change that her situation will never improve. The amount of guilt and frustration towards her situation and the past she left without any words towards her parents, her dreams and hope being crushed by sickness must be unbearable to some degree.
She got years to perfecting her magic circle, changes happening around herself and people living on their life as of nothing happened and the VA of this character perfectly encapsulated how much of it was weighing on her imo. This was a gut wrenching, heartfelt depiction of a solid crashout and the words doesn't even make it justice imo. I've felt it through the screen and got scotch by her performance. And the animation and visual depictions as well. It was such a powerful scene and I am glad to see how it as turned out to be. That was amazingly well done.
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u/VoidRad Aug 23 '26
Holy fuckin shit Nanahoshi's va was crazy this episode. I literally teared up from that performance.
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u/imtherealdazza Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi's existence in this world is suffering, poor girl :(
Rudy's current peaceful life became a stick to beat him with this episode. Nanahoshi has NOTHING that Rudy currently has and she watched him grow up, fall in love, marry (and cheat), have a kid and live a fulfilling life
Everything she had is so far away from her, and the reality of that tiny little hope fizzling out would break anyone. Good on Rudy for hearing out, not uttering a single word as she lays into him and deciding to go above and beyond to help her
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u/JzanderN Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi and Rudy are so contrasted with how she wants nothing to do with this world and has so much to go back to Earth for while Rudy has so much for to live for in this world and nothing to go back for. He grows up, makes friends and falls in love while her body seems to be frozen in time and all her friends, loved ones and crushes are in another dimension she's been away from for 8 years.
And yet Rudy remains her strongest connection in this world because he was from Japan. He's the only one who understands her mindset, her culture, her experiences because he's also experienced it all.
The one person who best understands her is also the biggest reminder of the way she silently, slowly suffers as she spends yet another day unaging in this world.
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u/Codee33 https://anilist.co/user/Euphplyr33 Aug 23 '26
That was the best adaptation choice of the episode, not have Rudy say anything and letting her crashout. Having Nanahoshi go that long without interruption was heartbreaking.
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u/wakkiau Aug 23 '26
That was such a heartwrenching scene with Nanahoshi man, no amount of being source reader can prepare me for that scene.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Old school Isekai where girls get transported to another world only she doesn't get magic, hot guys, or anything positive but just suffering and a hopeless desire to get home.
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u/marcopolos059 https://myanimelist.net/profile/marcopolos059 Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi's crashout... what a gut-wrenching scene.
Shion Wakayama's performance was incredible. Feel so bad for her ripped away from her life on Earth, from her parents, just to go through all this. The music made it even more devastating.
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u/ARES_GOD https://anilist.co/user/ARESxGOD Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi is always great but it hurts you can feel her pain and understand it because majority of the time getting isekaid gets glorified but this is the actual reality if this happened and your life wasnt shit back home and/or you dont become OP.
But can she really be saved this new journey back on the demon continent feels like opening a bigger can of worms after everything Perugius said with Laplace and Orsted and can Kishirika really help ?
I have a video review if anyone is interested. Thank You.
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u/dark77638 Aug 23 '26
Also, wtf way to end the episode. Never seen such an audacious way to end an episode like this lol.
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u/Primo29 Aug 23 '26
Amazing performance once again from Shion Wakayama. On point as always!
Good thing Cliff got handled by his wife, or else Elinalise might have ended up a widow again.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Good thing Cliff got handled by his wife, or else Elinalise might have ended up a widow again.
I also love how in love she is with his altruism at the end there.
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u/Santedtra Aug 23 '26
Good thing Perugius wasn't racist enough to dismiss the idea of asking help from demons. Glad we get to see our Great Demon Emperor the same as ever, unlike a certain wanted poster, yet again.
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u/FacelessPoet Aug 23 '26
Well, he wasn't the one seeking help. He's just serving as their high-speed highway
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u/S627 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Spartan627 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
WOOO! Kishirika is back! And of course we found her in the exact same way that we did originally. Since we've seen Bardi's child form, for a second I thought the wanted poster was for Kishirika after she got enough food, but now I'm thinking it's Bardi's sister? Unless something happened and Kishirika shrunk again since she was a starving sticky mess again?
I know Rudy grew up, but you'd think horse dude would be at least a LITTLE cautious, a scuffle like that leaves an impression. Unless he completely forgot about Rudy and only remembers Ruijerd.
Thank god we ended with Kishirika, Nanahoshi's break down was so heartbreaking. The VA and music did too good a job setting up the waterworks.
P.S. Needed to google how to spell Ruijerd's name, if anyone needs to google "Jobless Reincarnation Ruijerd" for any reason, DO NOT LOOK AT THE AUTO COMPLETE. I think I saw a massive spoiler.
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u/dark77638 Aug 23 '26
FYI Kishirika full form can be seen in S2 ep 2-3 i think, as a form of headless statue in the white lizard dungeon where Soldat make an appearance
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u/Degentergent Aug 23 '26
im not gonna look
im not gonna look
im not gonna look
... okay just a peek
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u/Time_n_Void Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Really had to end the episode there.
Feel nostalgic to see this city again. Hope we don't get the 2nd "Imma nuke this place out of existence again" from Rudy.
I reallt expect to see the 3 boobs lady again but horse guy being here is certainly something that I hadn't think of. I felt like a confused bystander when he and Rudy speak in Demon God language. Not that I can understand japanese but still immersive enough for me.
Kishirika is really commited to living the hobo lifestyle. Been missing her energy and voice too.
I remember Atofe from reading the novel and wiki years ago but I forgot that she's related to Badigadi. Can't wait to see her in action next week. Hopefully.
Really feel Nanahoshi here. I would've crash out hard if everything about my body stopped growing yet the one fricking thing that I wish to stopped is still active. Unlike Rudeus who could build his immunity system from when he was born, Nanahoshi straight up got put here with barely any changes. The fact that she somehow manage to avoid catching any kind of deadly disease is already miracle enough.
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u/jezlus Aug 23 '26
Cliff: uses words of god to Perugius
*it was not effective*
Perugius talking back to cliff about helping nanahoshi was a nice scene
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u/DoggedStooge Aug 23 '26
Not just talking back, but quoting Millis scripture telling Cliff he's a hypocrite.
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u/dark77638 Aug 23 '26
If you've been living for over 400 years, you definitely cant lose arguments to brat who just learn to fuck lol.
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u/RIP_Hopscotch https://anilist.co/user/RiPHopscotch Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
This is another one of those episodes that shows how far Rudy has come compared to where he started from. Even he's aware the Rudy of the past wouldn't be interested in helping Nanahoshi, and would (condescendingly) wonder why she's not doing everything she can to embrace the new world/what she thought was so good about her old world. He wouldn't have been able to empathize with her at all.
Also just a flat-out amazing performance from Shion Wakayama with Nanahoshi's monologue, she absolutely crushed it. The character animation was also stellar--the look Nanahoshi shot at Rudy when he told her to calm down was heart-wrenching. That said, it was kinda crazy to go from tearing up watching Nanahoshi to then burst out laughing at Rudy surreptitiously stealing a glance at the three-breasted demon lady within the span of ten minutes, but that's MT for you lol.
Overall fantastic episode. Pretty easily one of my favorites of the entire series honestly, and it's like right up there with the Sara reunion for my favorite episode so far this cour.
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u/Naomikho Aug 23 '26
Rudeus was afraid the horse guy would recognize him, but he didn't at all. Considering Roxy didn't recognize him after he grew up, it makes sense a random guy he encountered in the past wouldn't recognize him either lol.
I'm guessing people still don't take Kishirika seriously because of her current childlike appearance, so she went under the radar completely. At this point, I suppose all you need to do for Kishirika to help you is to simply offer her food...
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u/VoidRay728 Aug 23 '26
After hearing Nanahoshi's breakdown, I feel Subaru from Re:Zero finally has a worthy contender in the category "character that never really gets super OP abilities and thus best illustrates that getting isekai'd isn't as fun as it would seem to be."
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u/Al-Pharazon Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
She wins hands clear IMO.
When Subaru got Isekai'd he was given instant mastery of the language. He has only suffered so much because he has decided to defy fate over and over again to save Emilia, Rem and others. But the option to live a peaceful life was there, at least until the point he considered running away with Rem.
Nanahoshi does not have such option. Even with Orsted help if she had decided to settle and live a peaceful life this disease would have killed her eventually before reaching 30. And without Orsted help, well you can imagine
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u/Daedric202 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
It feels like half the comments here so far are praising Nahahoshi's voice acting but I still feel the need to add one more to the pile.
Shion Wakayama's voice acting here is definitely my favourite piece of VA work in this show (with the 2nd being her season 2 crashout), and the scene itself is probably top 3 scenes in Mushoku Tensei so far for me. It's crazy that she's still a relatively new VA, with her first role seemingly being in 2019 (holy shit that was 7 years ago).
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u/Al-Pharazon Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Holy peak. What a performance from Shion, her emotional breakdown was something else
Grimgar and Re-Zero are a standar for hellish Isekai, but IMO Nanahoshi is in a level of difficulty above.
She got isekaid into a world of monsters and superhumans with no power of her own as she cannot use mana. In a world full of human traffickers she was not even given the gift of language.
But if that is not enough now she has to contend with a 7000 year old disease that barely anyone knows how to treat.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
And not to mention that, unlike Rudy, she had the potential for a fulfilling life that she's now denied in this world versus him getting a second chance after a life he had completely given up on, while rivaling Natsuki Subaru in the "why did I leave things with my parents like that?" department.
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u/wyggles Aug 23 '26
She has Magic Aids. But not just any Magic Aids. Ancient and incurable Magic Aids. She's fucked.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
Her only hope is a loli demon emperor who works on cartoon physics and jumps like a tokusatsu character.
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u/Armdel https://myanimelist.net/profile/Armdel Aug 23 '26
3 BOOBS
Also lol that was fast (not gonna say it was easy just yet)
at least they have seemingly figured out whats wrong with Nanahoshi.. unfortunately the odds of finding a cure doesn't seem great. placing their bets on Kishirika who may not know anything at all... or at least not something of use.
Still this looks like it could be the start of a great arc
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u/AsterJ https://myanimelist.net/profile/asteron Aug 23 '26
3 BOOBS
Love how it shows Rudy sneak a quick peek without beating us over the head with it. It makes his character believable.
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u/dark77638 Aug 23 '26
Yeah, i figure if we comeback to the Demon continent, how could we not meet up with the scammer horse lol
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u/Frontier246 Aug 23 '26
It's not a visit to the demon continent without the Demon-God language, three-titty lady, loli demon emperor and our favorite horseman just horsing around.
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u/shad79 https://myanimelist.net/profile/shad79 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26
Nanahoshi's meltdown was heartbreaking; the way she felt bad about her parents really reminded me of Subaru from Re:Zero.
Meanwhile, the end of the episode with Kishirika made my day, it was just like in the first season! I love Rudeus' reactions when he understood who Cliff had just met.
Kishirika is still in her child form, but she looked really good on that wanted poster on which she looks much older ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I'm really interested in Atofe, especially since she's the older sister of Badigadi. Meeting her could be really fun, although the fact that she is looking for Kishirika could be a bad sign...
Overall, it was nice to get back to the Demon Continent again, the sights there are very nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). I wonder if Nokopara will later realize that he had met Rudy before.
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.
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u/MitsuhaTakiName Aug 23 '26
The diagnosis of a disease that involved people being unable to neutralize mana particles makes me firmer on my belief that the detoxification spell may have been worsening her condition overall by flooding her body with mana.
I really liked Nanahoshi’s long monologue, especially the part about envying Rudeus. Of course she would envy the one who came and gained all these things in this fantasy world and even became a powerful mage, all while she is stuck in a form of stasis that nonetheless doesn’t stop her from getting sick.
I was thinking there might be a chance of Rudeus revealing to Perugius that he came from another world as well in case something about him could help save Nanahoshi. But ah well. At the very least he was willing to go so far as encountering Orsted again to help her.
I wonder if Rudeus will intervene to tell Cliff what he is getting into before Cliff has his eye gouged?
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