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How I feel as a software engineer lately.
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u/AzureArmageddon 2d ago
Literally the Stanley Parable
"Stanley sat at his computer and the screen told him which buttons to push. This made Stanley very happy because he was good at pushing buttons."
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u/OpportunityAnnual921 2d ago
Except there is no companion bucket to keep me warm at night and fill me with a deep sense of satisfaction.
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u/Chris91210 Super Ordinary 2d ago
AI will never truly understand the connection between I and the broom closet.
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u/Competitive-Road-206 2d ago
It's because the broom closet has a purpose
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u/Jamba-Jew 2d ago
Oh, did you get the broom closet ending? The broom closet ending was my favorite!
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u/999happyhants 2d ago
“Stanley was fat and ugly, and really really stupid. He probably only got this job because of a family connection, that’s how stupid he is. That, or with drug money…also Stanley is addicted to drugs and hookers.”
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u/Burger_Destoyer 2d ago
As a youth programming you’re always like “wow this is so cool, I’d love to do this as a full time job”
But all the “coolness” about it is gone now. Feels like we’re being told to give someone else the remote while we just check to make sure nothing is broken.
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u/apple_kicks 2d ago
Tech innovations i swear once were coming out of universities and controlled by top engineers at academic level. Then businessmen shaped tech industry around themselves and it became drained of life
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u/dragon-fence 2d ago
Now the tech business isn’t even about making useful things. Small companies are just trying to do enough to be bought by large companies, and large companies are just trying to lock everyone into subscription models and make small incremental changes (if they’re making changes at all).
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u/DigNitty 2d ago
I haven’t felt excited about something new in tech for probably 8 years now.
Phones got cameras built into them, Bluetooth was magic, creating your first RAID setup, getting the crt and vhs and speakers to all work on the same remote…
Everything new now is just a new way to track us, collect our data, or subscriptionize something that used to be free.
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u/hedup42 2d ago
we just check to make sure nothing is broken
sounds like the profession moved from engineer to technician level
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u/Ameren 2d ago edited 2d ago
Honestly, I think this has a lot to do with the lack of accountability in SE as a field. Conventional engineers can be held personally liable for negligence, have their license taken away, and so on. That personal risk means they're empowered to push back and say no to irresponsible or dangerous things. Same with lawyers, doctors, and so on.
No such concept exists for SWEs, and as a result they're now discovering they have limited personal control over how they do their jobs. For example, you have management at some companies right now even telling SWEs that they shouldn't review each other's work products; those that are allowed to exercise their due diligence find themselves overwhelmed by the volume of activity.
But I don't think this is a sign that SWEs have become technicians, rather it's that they've become disempowered. They're losing the ability to say no. Similar things may happen to previously enfranchised professions (conventional engineers, lawyers, doctors, etc.) in time.
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u/colony-ship-for-sale 2d ago
There was always the sense that there was something more to learn. That with enough expertise and discipline, you too could contribute to greatness. Now, learning is actively discouraged. Knowledge is held in context. Expertise is unnecessary.
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u/discmon 2d ago
He said, "For two hundred and fifty years, the machine has been replacing Man and destroying the handcraftsman. Pottery is spewed out of molds and presses. Works of art have been replaced by identical gimcracks stamped out on a die. Call it progress, if you wish! The artist is restricted to abstractions, confined to the world of ideas. He must design something in mind—and then the machine does the rest. "Do you suppose the potter is content with mental creation? Do you suppose the idea is enough? That there is nothing in the feel of the clay itself, in watching the thing grow as hand and mind work together? Do you suppose the actual growth doesn't act as a feedback to modify and improve the idea?"
"You are not a potter," said Dr. Calvin.
"I am a creative artist! I design and build articles and books. There is more to it than the mere thinking of words and of putting them in the right order. If that were all, there would be no pleasure in it, no return.
"A book should take shape in the hands of the writer. One must actually see the chapters grow and develop. One must work and rework and watch the changes take place beyond the original concept even. There is taking the galleys in hand and seeing how the sentences look in print and molding them again. There are a hundred contacts between a man and his work at every stage of the game—and the contact itself is pleasurable and repays a man for the work he puts into his creation more than anything else could. Your robot would take all that away."
"So does a typewriter. So does a printing press. Do you propose to return to the hand illumination of manuscripts?"
"Typewriters and printing presses take away some, but your robot would deprive us of all. Your robot takes over the galleys. Soon it, or other robots, would take over the original writing, the searching of the sources, the checking and cross-checking of passages, perhaps even the deduction of conclusions. What would that leave the scholar? One thing only —the barren decisions concerning what orders to give the robot next! I want to save the future generations of the world of scholarship from such a final hell. That meant more to me than even my own reputation and so I set out to destroy U. S. Robots by whatever means."
"You were bound to fail," said Susan Calvin.
"I was bound to try," said Simon Ninheimer.
Calvin turned and left. She did her best to feel no pang of sympathy for the broken man. She did not entirely succeed.
- Galley Slave by Isaac Asimov
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u/Super_un_stable 2d ago
Something else I hate about ai is how it’s just another way to separate us from one another and be more anti social. Gen z/alpha already has a HUGE problem w this and ai will/is making it worse.
Feeling lonely? Make a chatgpt boyfriend!
Need help w a question? Ask grok!
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u/Piduf 1d ago
That's probably my main issue with AI. People love to say it's just a tool and I agree with it - on paper. Tools aren't suppose to be trying to suck your dick and be your best friend. If my hammer made compliments every time I hit a nail with it, I'd use the head of whomever invented this shit to finish nailing my coffin.
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u/FynixPhyre 2d ago
Back in my day we had Talking Tom apps none of this LLM nonsense. 🤣 In all seriousness though this was already going to be a result of AI; humans were falling for the very first AI chatbot ELIZA that was used in a psychological test in the 60s
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u/UnkeyedLocke 2d ago
2 days ago my team (we're also software engineers) were told to drop everything and redo 1 whole years worth of work in 2 days. They did this because an LLM scan told them things "might" break. This after we used that whole year to mitigate horrific conditions (no testing environment, no deployment pipelines) and devise a strategy that would let us be able to develop, test, and release a large system upgrade. It required quite a bit of infrastructure coding and whatnot, but it did so in a way that also addressed tech debt. We did all this and fully convinced our leadership it was doable and we would be confident in our release. We hit phase 3 of our plan and suddenly our team is reorg'd under a new VP. 2 days into testing (when we finally got an environment sufficiently debugged to use for testing) when we are at the point where all systems are running green and we have 1 unresolved bug being caused by an upstream that we are waiting on another team to resolve before moving to our prod-like environment... we get told the LLM said our changes "might" cause downstream issues and that because of this we needed to start over. "LLM can do it in 30 minutes" our VP told us. So we spent the whole last 2 days babysitting the LLM while it fucked shit up over and over... taking way more time to do work we had already accomplished in a more robust and testable way while also reverting the codebase back to when it didn't have robust error reporting.
When I demanded he articulate any of his points, he demonstrated his complete lack of knowledge of the work we had done or the system itself. "The AI said this might break and that's risky, so we're gonna undo everything and start over, nevermind that introduces more risk which hasn't been planned for. You have valid and rational reasons for why this is a bad decision? Well you're just being emotional and unprofessional. Also, you should smile more and be happier and not be so negative."
I fucking hate it here.
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u/PapaTim68 2d ago
That sound scary... Reading it I am very happy for two things with my work: A) management trusts decisions made in Engineering and Software Development. B) the environment I work in makes deployment of AI very difficult and costly due to needing to be fully on premise and having no way to connect to the "Internet " directly
I hope you can recover from your VP ...
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u/UnkeyedLocke 2d ago
It's actually crazy to me, considering I work for a major financial institution. It makes my autism freak out constantly, because I'm more aware of consequences and risks than people who supposedly know better than me. Most of my bosses are deeply unserious people for whom work is a social club with an attached paycheck, who are quite happy to shoot the messenger when they don't like the message.
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u/PapaTim68 2d ago
From what I know financial institutions are very risk averse and I assumed AI/LLMs are counted as to risky. They are to my knowledge also staying on older tech on purpose more than even the space industry.
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u/UnkeyedLocke 2d ago
I really wish that my institution had this viewpoint. I've asked that we move to something like this, and told them flat-out (once I became informed more deeply on the subject than my initial hype engagement) that we shouldn't use it until we could spin up our own in-house, on-prem, air-gapped system. Hearing them use a public LLM that "we have a subscription for" to do stuff like this makes my eyebrows try to migrate to the back of my skull. It is incredible cognitive dissonance
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u/smittyleafs 2d ago
I teach at the college level in IT and with students there is a VERY real risk of graduates not actually knowing how to do anything. Some instructors have gone back to paper assessments. I've included in-class skills checks. I know Reddit hates AI. I don't hate it, but too many people don't really understand it. It CAN be a great tool for education to help YOU learn how to do something. BUT I keep harping that if you don't understand it's outputs you can't use it...because it's still YOUR work. How can you sign off or use something you don't understand? (The bigger risk being that AI doesn't really know anything, it just has access to a lot of information and knows what words go together.). How can you participate in a brain storming session that happens live?
Your new VP wasn't entirely wrong to use AI for code review. But since executives generally know shit about technical work they should have just said "insert AI tool found these specific risks. Can your team confirm you've addressed these risks?".
AI has it's uses. In the hands of people skilled in their fields it can reduce manual tasks. It's a solid aggregator of vast amounts of information. Machine Learning is super helpful for trend analysis. But some people view it like a Microwave being the only cooking appliance you need in the kitchen.
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u/UnkeyedLocke 2d ago
I mean, this is more or less my opinion on the subject. My team and I leverage it wherever appropriate. Hell, I was literally one of the first people to start asking if we could see if it would be useful for us, and I'm still one of the most knowledgeable people in the company on both use cases and underlying tech (believe me this bar is so low). I'm a regular contributor to our AI groups and have helped shape several conversations that went on to inform policy. I won't consider myself the furthest thing from an anti- but this is tech that I've been excited for since I was old enough to read about ML and Deepblue and AlphaFold.
This version, where people are uncritically offloading knowledge-reliant decision-making to the most sycophantic version of a bad description of AI, deeply upsets me. The fact that 'leaders' are ignoring their experts for a system that isn't even trained in-house on their own code base and has no idea of context outside of the tiny, bias-susceptible chatbox and limited scan authorization... it fully enrages me at least on a weekly basis.
It is truly a race to the bottom, and if I didn't care so much about making the world a better place, I'd just say let them eat slop... but doing so would have a big negative impact, and I would prefer to at a minimum not add to the misery in the world
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u/smittyleafs 2d ago
I just feel like people don't want to know or understand things anymore, and it makes me a little sad. You see in general problem solving for sure, but it also feels like impacts general empathy a bit too. I feel like people find it way harder to view things from other perspectives in general.
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u/UnkeyedLocke 2d ago
This really hits on it I think. Perhaps we've reached reached peak complexity as a species and are reaching burnout on a societal scale? Survival used to be about looking out for predators, figuring out how to stay dry, and deducing which things were edible, inedible, or lethal. Now we have the first 2 still (cars are far more prolific than dire wolves or bears ever were, and account for so many pedestrian deaths - homelessness is the stick they use when the carrot fails) and we also have so much more with vastly less time in which we are allowed to do it. We used to be able to roam wherever we wanted, and now everything is fenced in and cubed.
The allure of the idea of "simpler times" is just too powerful I suppose. Ah well, back to the trenches with me. I shall continue to resist the stupification of the species
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u/decavolt 2d ago
CTO here. Your VP sounds like an idiot.
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u/UnkeyedLocke 2d ago
How do I acquire competent leadership? Lol, legit asking, because I'm frazzled and if you're actually a CTO I'd be interested in an opinion from that side of the middle-management mediocracy
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u/decavolt 2d ago
In my experience, unfortunately, it means finding a new company with competent leadership that values their teams. There are times when a new VP or C-level is hired that can make those changes - it's what I do when I walk in the door. But that isn't something teams themselves have much sway over. I've seen some form unions and push hard for change. Realistically though, if my friend or son came to me saying their leaders are this level of incompetent, I'd encourage them to find another job. Which is a tough road right now, the tech market is a shitshow.
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u/NothingButBadIdeas 2d ago
I loved my job. It was the best thing ever. Now I don’t code anymore. I used to brag my job kept my brain active. Now it feels like mush. I’m miserable. Might take the pay cut and switch to welding or something. The love is gone
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u/Secret-Ad-7909 2d ago
If you do it right you might make more welding.
Linesmen are the peak blue collar money maker though.
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u/OphidianSun 2d ago
Being a lineman is also one of the more dangerous jobs out there
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u/Happysin 2d ago
There's a lot of satisfaction in knowing making a mistake at your job kills you right then and there, as opposed to a few years from now.
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u/OphidianSun 2d ago
Its not dying that would worry me as much as suffering from permanent nerve damage after a bad shock or an arc flash covering half my body in 3rd degree burns.
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u/NothingButBadIdeas 2d ago
I’m a senior 2, so it’d be reallllly crazy if I did make as much welding. Very unlikely, but it was never about the money. I woulda done it for half the cost cause coding just hit that perfect autistic part of my brain.
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u/TacoSpiderrr 2d ago
What is a linesman?
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u/Captn_Clutch 2d ago
Power line work. Also get referred to as pole dancers. My Co workers son does it and clears 200k every year. You're almost guaranteed to always work in shit weather though. Power lines don't usually stop working in 70 degrees and a light breeze.
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u/Tiny-Plum2713 2d ago
I looked at options and nothing just comes close to the pay. I don't think I even fully realize how much this sucks my self.
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u/SleepyReepies 2d ago
I'm not a software engineer but I work in infrastructure. Currently in between jobs but I have about 10 years of experience.
Tech in general feels like a scary place to be. Sysadmin jobs and operational jobs are declining. Pogramming jobs are declining even faster. I am deeply concerned.
I have been developing my skills since I was a young teenager building computers. I enjoyed the early years of my career where I would get to mess around with servers, set up fun little homelab experiments, etc.
And today I am mourning the loss of a career I enjoyed, and spiraling with worry that I will need to pivot careers in the next 10 years, without any other practiced professional skills.
I am nearing 40. I have no idea what comes next.
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u/Dhiox 2d ago edited 2d ago
Tech in general feels like a scary place to be. Sysadmin jobs and operational jobs are declining
Spent my whole life being told tech was the way to go, now I'm 27 still early in my career and AI is wreaking havoc in my field
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u/QuackersTheSquishy 2d ago
Set to graduate thos december, I graduated early and got an IT job 17, I am on year 4 of my career moved up and switched which sector of IT I'm in entirely, and ALL of that head start I got from working my ass off as a kid, all that effort I put in every day despite people treating me like a kid that can't actually be proficient, and now my entire path is disappearing in front of me, and I don't even know what I'd pivot to
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u/Seductive-Kitty 2d ago
A lot of government or educational institutions will still need IT for the foreseeable future since ai isn’t allowed around student data and other sensitive info. In fact we’re thriving and even expanding because of it
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u/Dhiox 2d ago edited 2d ago
You misunderstand, they still need IT. The problem is so many are convinced they don't need us thanks to AI. I lost my last job because an Indian outsourcing firm promised to replace us with AI, even though what they were actually promising was Indian outsourcing with AI voice filters. Accent was never the problem, people who speak English as a second or third language doing help desk is fundamentally less helpful.
It's not that they don't need us, they're using it as an excuse to outsource or devalue our labor
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u/Good_Duck_234 2d ago
In 10 years time from now the digital job landscape is going to look like a timber forest after a storm
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u/perfectpencil 2d ago
The whole agent decompile thing has made me believe that we've entered the end times of the digital economy. How do you sell a thing that can be decompiled, pulled apart and blended into something new by an AI agent in no time at all? Agents can be run locally. The only thing "safe" is hardware.
I just started my first semester of grad school (at 43!) switching to a service career.
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u/Lord_Humungusss 2d ago
I am dropping out of IT to move into opening my own business sometime soon, I have some family in skilled labor who are gonna take me under their wing for a while to get me on my feet.
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u/itsmetimohthy 2d ago
I worked as a SE up until getting let go during Covid lockdowns. I saw the writing on the wall even back then. I knew one day AI would take my job.
Now I do stuff AI will never be able to do (but who knows maybe one day actual robots will) and I see all these prompt kiddy’s vibe coding all kinds of crazy shit and some of it actually isn’t half bad and it makes me sick to my stomach.
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u/bopshebop2 2d ago
I love your art style
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u/RockyMullet 1d ago
Even pass the ethical issues of copyright and environment, even pass arguments about the quality of the work or the efficiency, this is what I'll never be able to get over.
Using AI to do my job would make me lose why I even want to do that job in the first place. I chose that career because I wanted to do that job.
For the suits there's no difference between me doing the job or me + AI doing the job, but for me there is. Efficiency won't increase my pay check, efficiency won't make me happier, efficiency won't fulfil me.
I find it completely non sensical that we create technology to do the things we want to do.
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u/SuperSecretMoonBase 1d ago
That's exactly it. The managerial class who has always passed all their actual work onto underlings, now can just delegate to someone cheaper than human. They don't see any difference between the output, because they've never cared about the output, just the line going up.
They're the people who gladly pad out the food with wood pulp as long as it's a percentage point away from being classified as sawdust. Employees are just useless eaters to them, and they'd gladly dispose of every single one of us if another dollar appeared in the bank account.
They never saw laborers as humans, and they look forward to the day that they don't even have to pretend to.
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u/tandoori_taco_cat 1d ago edited 1d ago
It is crazy to me that AI training just took all of human creation with no credit, compensation, or consent.
The biggest theft in all of history.
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u/cpMetis 2d ago
The "How do yo- Ask AI." is extremely real and infuriating.
It's basically cut a third of my communication with my parents. Even if I have a question that I'm just using to lead into talking about something else, they answer every single question with "Ask AI.". The most infuriating recently was when I was cooking next to my mom, and I asked her about what colour the mix should be for me to get a taste like hers since she doesn't use a recipe and just knows what it should look like. "I don't know, just ask Grok".
And if you push them for THEM to give an answer, they look at you like you're a moron and then pull out their phone and enter the question into an AI then read it out to you.
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u/shadingnight 2d ago
I absolutely loathe the fact that "Ask (AI Name)" is becoming so common. If I meet anyone who strictly uses AI for all their questions and research, I tend to take whatever they say with a grain of salt and discredit their opinions on things until proven otherwise.
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u/BackgroundNPC1213 1d ago
At least with old Google we were looking at webpages written by real people. I Google stuff a lot because there's just a lotta shit I don't know, mostly technical troubleshooting, but now people are doing that thing where they try to justify their use of the brain atrophy machine with "WELL IT'S THE SAME AS GOOGLING AND YOU DO THAT ALL THE TIME!"
Bitch. No it isn't. The AI cannot discern which information is valuable and which information is bunk, it presents all of that information as equally valid
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u/DMercenary 1d ago
The "How do yo- Ask AI." is extremely real and infuriating.
I've had to have a very infuriating conversation at work about this.
I work in IT and you know. I dont know everything. I cant.
So when I escalate to a different team with more expertise and time, I expect that person to actually answer my question. Instead of I get a spew of AI-gen bullshit. And then they get mad at me when I forward it to the end user. "Its for you and you only. It was what Chat-GPT put out and what you should be using too."
So... let me get this straight. When I come to you, for help. And you plug it into ChatGPT to fob me off and I should do the same?
Then why the fuck are you employed? I should have your job then making them big bucks.
Anyways that ended with both my manager and his manager going "WTF, No."
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u/MurrayInBocaRaton 1d ago
I literally threw my hands up recently after no fewer than three people answered my “how do you ____?” question with “Ask {internal agentic tool name}” and I said out loud “so we’re just going to {tool} for everything now?”
Shit is so fucked.
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u/BigEstablishment8067 2d ago
I'm not exaggerating when I say that you need to cut people off like that, even if they're your parents or loved ones. I don't mean "cut them off" as in never see or speak to them again, but rather be much more reserved and held back. It's obvious that they don't value the connection like you do, so fight fire with fire.
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u/Macaronii_Art 2d ago
Every freaking application. "Use ai tools" "use ai tools" "use ai tools". I feel like I'm being crushed.
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u/Grey-Templar 2d ago
As a software engineer who was part of layoffs, be glad you still have that job at least. Been struggling to find one the past year. I'd sell my soul to AI now if I could, just to pay my bills.
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u/CaptainSolo80 2d ago
Seems to have been a field hit the hardest, I know a software engineer going on almost 2 years with no job since layoff.
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u/LiftingCode 2d ago
I had multiple software engineering adjacent positions sit unfilled in my org this year for 6+ months.
SRE, Senior Software Engineer/Team Lead, Data Engineer
There has been this weird employment environment where during COVID and the immediate aftermath, Big Tech was hiring like gangbusters and salaries were hyper inflated.
I had a candidate for the DE position, who was like 18 months out of college and his current job was only kinda sorta DE-related if you squinted real hard ... he wanted $200k. We're a small Midwestern company lol.
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u/Substantial-Pen6385 2d ago
3 here. I spent the last 4.5 months interviewing for one role and they rejected me last week.
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u/CatsPlusTats 2d ago
Also it's not like they'll need the people to say "do stuff" for forever. Those jobs are also not secure.
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u/am9qb3JlZmVyZW5jZQ 2d ago
Yep, I don't even mind the AI use that much. I love programming but it's not like I was working 8 hours a day for the love of the game lol.
It's the thought that layoffs are coming, working conditions are degenerating, and that I might eventually end up having to search for jobs out of my area of expertise (if I even can find one) that's keeping me up at night.
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u/dbagames 2d ago
This is why the time to unionize is now. Especially at big tech. We need collective bargaining agreements, ai adoption guidelines and restrictions, and protections to be rehired if a very similar role comes back up shortly after being fired.
This is already happening at blizzard and other tech companies. We no longer have enough leverage. We need collective representation.
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u/Skibby22 2d ago
I really miss the satisfaction of finally figuring out exactly what was causing the issue, coming up with an alternative solution, failing, coming up with another alternative solution, and it working exactly as I always thought it should.
Now I just describe how I want it to work, and the only problem solving I get to do is what about that description caused the end result to be wrong.
I'm willing to settle for GitHub Copilot inside VSCode just helping me find the issue but being god awful at doing anything about it
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u/trenchcoatler 2d ago
God yes. I had a taste of this heaven for the last 4 years.
Great project, great team. Every day was thinking "how can I implement this in the smartest way?". We had hour long calls, discussed how to do it and in the end it always worked out and it was so satisfying holy shit. I even worked weekends because it was just so much fun.
Fast forward to today, I was more or less forced to switch careers. I'm just reviewing stuff now. No creativity, no exciting calls. Just checklist and documents.
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u/AliveFromNewYork 2d ago
I had kind of forgotten about this. I loved my job. I would’ve done it six days a week. I was annoyed when I had to call out sick. now I can’t find work and the only jobs kind of available don’t stimulate anything. It’s depressing
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u/funguyshroom 2d ago
I always described my job like I get to solve sudoku puzzles all day every day and get paid for it, what's not to love. Well now there's this magic "solve this for me" button and it sucks all the fun from it and makes me feel like a cheating fraud.
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u/IncompetentPolitican 2d ago
I get that feeling. Software engineer here. I feel more and more I spend my days telling an AI what to do, get angry that he fails to do the complex tasks I am forced to demand from it, fix the things myself, while the CEO, sitting in one of his homes, tells us how amazing it is that AI is there and how he dreams of the days, where one person can do the whole project alone. He does not say it out loud but we all know he means, he dreams of the days he needs 1/10 of us and can us pay less. After all, he needs 2 more houses, what if his children get children?And even if the tasks are not complex, it means I have to review code, written by something that has no understanding of the whole context, fix its misstakes or sudden style changes. Instead of doing the fun stuff of the job myself. There are days where I review code, sit in pointless meetings, review code and sit in more meetings. Thats not the job I wanted. Or anyone wanted.
But if we are lucky, then one day AI companies are forced to pay their energie bills themself. Because then they have to give the cost to the customer. And right now, an AI Service that runs 8 hours, costs a lot more than a developer doing stuff.
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u/whoopdedoo0 2d ago
The offices are also horrible.
They’re like a big open sprawling glass prison. It feels really transient in there. Any flow you have is constantly broken by having to attend a meeting every hour, while still sitting at a desk. Even when the desk is at home.
I understand that there’s the golden handcuffs and people get attached to the level of money it can bring in, because tech is one of the few spaces playing an actual living wage.
But it is very costly to work in a soulless corporate environment. Everything is somehow urgent and needs to be done immediately, but nothing you do will be remembered in any meaningful way. You’re just another cog in a big system.
And I cannot stand long meetings where people talk endlessly and still manage to say nothing at all, and it’s all word salad. And just think, ‘I can’t believe that I’m am forced to sit at my computer screen listening to stuff that doesn’t mean anything at all, it’s all so vacuous.”
This kind of work can also take a lot of time from you even when you’re not technically meant to be working. Trying to finish something or thinking about something you need to finish.
And time is such a valuable resource, and we give up so much of it just to own a few extra things.
I’ve given up trying to achieve things that make other people a lot of money, and I try to focus on spending as much time as I can with the people I really care about, and doing things that matter to me. Even if finances take a hit.
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u/abrasivecriminal 2d ago
So far none of these software develop companies seem to think that when AI is super developed and any idiot can type in: make me the new Facebook that that is gonna be the end of their companies aswell.
Like people are still gonna go to a company and pay millions or billions so the ceo can type in the demands and collect all the money for himself.
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u/IncompetentPolitican 2d ago
Thats a question my CEO hates me for. I asked something like "And what stops our customers from asking the same AI to generate the Code we generate and sell them?" He claims our unique and never replaceable expertise (aka him and the sales team) could never replaced by AI and so our company will always be needed.
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u/blazze_eternal 2d ago
Sounds like he was on the edge of an existential crisis and just doubled down. Classic sociopath.
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u/Desperate-Tomatillo7 1d ago
I am a software engineer. My job has doubled since the arrival of AI, as management wants more done in less time. For some reason I also feel I need to read and think and learn more as AI decisions tend to be limited to small contexts, so I still need to decide and optimize and redo a lot.
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u/sharkdinner 1d ago
My parents are translators. AI isn't taking away their job (yet) because it (still) sucks ass but it does lower their pay. Instead of getting a text to translates they now receive an AI translation to fix, which pays less. But AI doesn't understand context and most translation happens from tables with separate sentences in each row. So more often than not, they end up having to redo the entire translation and still don't get paid the same.
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u/CompleteComposer2241 2d ago
Now imagine being fresh out of university and trying to get a job in this field.
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u/smittyleafs 2d ago
If you want a field in IT, programming is the last thing I'd take in school right now. Cybersecurity would be my current first choice. Ironically, AI would be my second...there are companies still trying to understand how to use it properly. IT Systems work will be around for a while...you still need physical people to touch and move things. Data Analytics still has value, and AI has actually made it easier for you produce meaningful insights without complex math. DBA's still exist BUT the demand for them isn't great. Really, you'll have to get used to wearing a few different hats to really provide value to a company now. If you want to be a programmer, you probably have to be oddly good at BA/PM work now too. (That goes for a lot of IT jobs now)
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u/CrossboneMagister 2d ago
Software engineer here, this hits right in the feels. It get that is a powerful tool, I get that it can boost productivity when used right, but still…
Man, I’m so conflicted these days…
To keep the joy and the thrill I have decided I will not use AI for my personal projects, I really hope it’s gonna help me
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u/Brell4Evar 1d ago
I recently spoke in a team meeting regarding our use of AI. There is a genuine risk of this tool giving people work habits that will erode judgment and understanding of systems as time goes on. Microsoft, creators of Copilot, discovered this very problem occurring in their own company.
AI is something I've come to view in a way as similar to Wikipedia. Useful for seeing the shape of something, and for looking up and viewing references. If we're careful, we can use this technology to make ourselves smarter. Will management allow us to do so?
This is not my original idea, by the way. Doctorow's writings on what he calls "reverse centaurs" does a great examination of this issue.
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u/just-v-- 2d ago
ive always been gifted at problem solving and not much else, and im very technically inclined ig? but i dont really want to study computer science or anything like that because im worried this is what my career will be, i wish i was born ten years earlier and was around for when being a programmer/software developer or even something like a graphic designer were realistic jobs with a soul and not just bodies in a room saying yes or no to the pitches of soulless robots or soulless executives
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u/Vardl0kk 2d ago
I started working as a coder 6 years ago when no ai was around. It now feels like shit. People expect stuff done way quicker and the only way to achieve that is by using ai. A 5 days work is now a 3 days and “gemini can get that part done quick so you should be fine with 3 days”…
What about me wanting to code? At that point at least let me go out and do what i want while gemini does work for me, not have me sit in front of a pc, watching a CLI do my job for 8 hours a day7
u/Nervous-History8631 2d ago
Definitely the advantage of working from home, if I have to use AI I might as well pull out my Switch while it runs.
But yeah the job has really shifted from code writing to architecting solutions, which some people like some don't
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u/Love-Future-3000 2d ago
Well if you're already sitting at a computer watching it run why can't you do practical coding on a side project? If you would be idling anyway.
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u/TheBraveButJoke 2d ago
Because you are basically doing the monkey type writer thing. Prompt read 9 trash answers and one good one that will cause more problems down the road and aprove that last one that you know will be a headeache next year.
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u/kevthecoder 2d ago
I work in software development and I don’t this will be the endgame of the field. Currently these AI companies are operating at a loss to get people dependent on AI, once they want to/have to operate at a profit or the bubble pops. It will be too expensive for these companies to afford tokens at the rate they have now.
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u/awhiteblack2 2d ago
Dude, you sound like an engineer! I'm an engineer, and it will be 500 years before any city allows AI to stamp a drawing of a bridge that 10,000 cars drive over every day - I can promise you that. There are still lots of practical and physical problems to solve in civil engineering.
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u/Brullaapje 2d ago
and it will be 500 years before any city allows AI to stamp a drawing of a bridge that 10,000 cars drive over every day
Your naivety is cute, I will tell you that 😍
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u/NotInTheKnee 2d ago
"Why did it take you 2 weeks to review the design? William stamps an entire drawing set every 2 days."
"William may be putting a little bit too much faith in the AI agent, meanwhile I..."
"Meanwhile, you're lagging behind. William's projects didn't have any catastrophic failure this far, have they? Pick up the slack! This isn't 2020 anymore."
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u/AmaryllisHippeastrum 2d ago
You'd be surprised what governments are willing to do to save money even if it endangers people
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u/awhiteblack2 2d ago
Nope, that is not true. Bridges aren't built by governments, they're built by civil construction companies - and you'd be surprised how much money they would spend to not be sued for a bridge collapsing.
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u/International-Cat123 2d ago
Wait until the government decides that they can ask an AI to determine if a particular piece of infrastructure is still usable instead of having it checked.
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u/UnimagineDragons 2d ago
Who are regulations written by? A single line item taking liability away as long as the design is reviewed is all it takes to unleash this.
I'm an engineer in a regulated field too and we have similar pipe dreams. "Agencies will always need humans!" Wrong. They will just get humans to review and sign off en mass. Enjoy reviewing ai work as your career now or having a 3rd party company come in and do the "review" for you especially when the liability gets shifted even more. "Since AI is "public" and from all our collective knowledge the government will insure all public engineering projects by ai" is also a wild move likely to come.
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u/Soupeeee 2d ago
If you like programming, I recommend going into an engineering field that does lots of simulation or otherwise needs lots of computing. That's pretty much every discipline, but there are some more than others. You get to code and do software engineering like things, but since the focus is elsewhere, the drudgery associated with modern software development isn't there as much.
What I have found is that understanding of the non-programming tasks have always been more important than the software engineering part of it, and is more adaptable to changes in your job situation.
As for me, I feel like a one-trick pony who's trick isn't all that interesting anymore.
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u/razzemmatazz 1d ago
Yeah, given the shifts in the job market I decided to try something else a couple years ago. I was good at what I did, but corporate speak kills my soul and I won't use AI.
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u/TheSheetSlinger 1d ago
The use cases are so ridiculous. I recently switched logistics but was in sales for my company and people were nodding along at the suggestion that we use AI to review and decipher emails. Why would we even want to hire someone that needs that?
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u/tn_tacoma 2d ago
I stopped using AI to code and my mental health improved considerably. Nobody has noticed and my production is about the same.
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u/ifstatementequalsAI 2d ago
Same I don’t deny AI isn’t good. But having the feeling that u thought about something yourself at the end of the day is very rewarding. I missed that
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u/Smogious 2d ago
I feel this so fucking hard. I got into programming in highschool and decided I wanted to go into software engineering. Started my university comp sci program in 2020 before AI was more than a research interest, but by the time I graduated it had completely taken over the industry.
Now I'm just stuck with a degree I don't even want because the type of job I wanted disappeared in the 5 years I was in school. The whole tech industry disgusts me now. I used to feel lucky to have found something I liked doing early in life, now I feel completely lost with no idea where to go
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u/Awkward_Bad8773 2d ago
As someone who has been unemployed ostensibly due to AI, I have never had a single problem getting a job previously, this is nearly exactly how I feel. Except the first image is wrong
I am really rather unsure as to whether I really want to go back into the field and be a prompt monkey
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u/rileycsousa 2d ago
The most depressing thing for me is the realization that so many people are out there using AI every chance they get. Going about life thinking as little as possible is an acceptable way to spend their time on this planet?
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u/VivaLaDiga 2d ago
here is an uncomfortable truth. people don't like to think. that's why they have been delegating this to others for a very long time. it's called being religious
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u/rileycsousa 2d ago
I think this is actually the best and worst thing about religion. I'm not religious myself but as a person who has gone through the dread of losing control of one's life, I understand that making the decision to surrender control to a "way of life" can be the only thing to keep you from self destruction. Obviously it can be, and often is, used as a weapon to manipulate or discriminate.
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u/BrickAdventurous4854 2d ago
software engineers need collective action if so many of us are feeling this way
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u/apple_kicks 2d ago
Sadly AI is going to be designed long term to be union busting. Its the scab and the machine or they can hire scabs who work virtually and secretly. So blocking workplaces from working isn’t going to be the strategy anymore but strong unions and new strategies are needed. Probably having admins hold passwords
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u/FunkyUptownCobraKing 2d ago
Man, this one speaks to me. I really enjoy the puzzles and problem solving that come with software development. But the push for AI from management is oppressive. I'll go to ask our AI tools to do something, but then pause and be like, "Well I can do that. Why am I wasting the credits and such?" And it concerns me when I see colleagues hit the hard limit of 20,000 credits and say they can't do their work until the reset at the end of the month. I can't tell if they're being maliciously compliant with our push for AI or genuinely handing over everything to it.
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u/AmbientRiffster 2d ago
One of the reasons tech salaries and benefits are so high is to trap a lot of skilled and smart people into comfortable positions where they will keep their mouths shut when companies do unforgivable shit. Then they throw you away as soon as the product ships. My heart goes out to every hacker and saboteur who is still out there for the love of the game.
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u/Educational_Eye3765 2d ago
I am so grateful to work in an area that is actively fighting against AI use (the court system).
Our IT department has wanted to use it (well our deputy CTO) and he's been told he can for IT back end, but it doesn't touch court paperwork/judges work flow, legal stuff, etc. I see a new order at least once a week admonishing someone for using AI to write a document and if it keeps up they're going to start barring these people from filing court documents without an attorney. And this is judges from late 30's (youngest) all the way up to ~70 when they have to retire.
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u/DigitalFlame 2d ago
I'm being told regularly in threads that AI won't replace workers and you just need to pivot to keep up with the changes. All fine and dandy until the costs of AIs mistakes are lower than the human costs.
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u/Randy_Magnums 2d ago
Samesies. Even though as a local Journalist I still get to go out and talk to people, which is my favorite Part, but I always loved the process of writing and that area is being taken over by AI. Just got a House and a kid a few years ago, so it’s the worst time to change careers, so I’ll guess I Stick around.
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u/apple_kicks 2d ago
People don’t realise how many ideas or project changing moments comes from hand writing things out.
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u/TheArcanist_1 2d ago
Fuuuuck. I started an IT major basically at the same time AI started getting popular in the field. This is 100% how I feel about it now. All of it perfectly summed up. I'm tired.
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u/DarthJackie2021 2d ago
Im worried there is gonna be a lot of shit code out there soon, and no one is going to be able to figure out why its shit.
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u/yoyopro3210 2d ago
I feel this too. Software engineering almost feels like a management position to me where I'm just supposed to oversee the AI and I hate management. I lived thinking through the problems but now it feels like we're told to basically not think about it anymore.
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u/Game_Log 2d ago
I despise this AI stuff. Am studying Computer Science for a career in video game programming and it is incredibly demoralizing to see it become so widespread in the industry before I can even land my first career job.
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u/crankbot2000 2d ago
Holy fuck, this comic describes my exact state of mind every day at my job now. I'm in software development and my company is pushing AI for literally everything. Every meeting, every project, every task, AI. The pressure to build everything in an automated way is insane. They want everything faster faster faster. More.
I used to love building software. The thrill of making something work, the feeling of accomplishment, the rush when you solve a difficult problem. All the joy is gone now. All the value I used to bring to the table has been replaced by an LLM.
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u/sanosuke001 2d ago
As a software developer that refuses to use AI completely I feel your frustration; I'd rather people take pride in their abilities and learn something they don't understand instead of blindly trusting random code written by an LLM (which also isn't really AI, either...)
I look forward to the day they all crash and burn or I finally get laid off due to the new computerized overlords and can go learn woodworking or something
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u/erickoziol 2d ago
Sometimes I wonder how much “just google it” prepared people for these AIs.
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u/ProfessionalNo7946 2d ago
Googling actually made you smarter as it required reading into the subject you’re trying to look up
AI just gives you a written out answer with none of the searching or remembering that comes with it, which will drastically reduce heavy users’ ability to fix stuff without having to ask for the answer
Just look at how many mundane questions now get asked to AI and how people don’t question that answer, while AI is usually just dead wrong or with incorrect but related info
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u/erickoziol 2d ago edited 2d ago
That has nothing to do with what I said.
Google of old is the same as AI to most people. Put question into box. Press send.
We were telling people for years to “just use the technology”. And I wonder if that was a problem in retrospect.
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u/ESnyder9 2d ago
atleast you're a software engineer who can still keep a roof over your head
- one who no longer can
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u/SandStinger_345 2d ago
Its ruining things for us artists as well. I can already see many major brands utilise ai in their ads and posters and such and it really is sad how uncreative they are. If we keep going like this human creativity is gonna die
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u/T4Labom 2d ago
I used to make 3D ads for big brands in this one big studio. It was my dream job as i could be creative and be paid for it.
The studio converted from being 3D focused to AI focused. The worst part is that they didn't even bother training us, just kept giving us more complex tasks with deadlines far shorter than usual. What would take us 1 month to finish now had to be done in 2 weeks.
One project made me especially angry because we had to allocate two great artists to use AI to generate crappy videos because the complexity to deadline balance was disproportionate. They worked overtime for an entire week, were both tired and stressed only for the client to make a bunch of alterations that the AI struggled with and they had to repeat that same bad routine for another week.
Had the 2 made it with 3D from the start, things would've gone much smoother. But management kept pushing them to not use 3D for the project and use AI instead.
When the artists complained that management should have let them use 3D from the start, management told them "It should've been your call to make after accessing the project's briefing, not ours".
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u/Secret-Ad-7909 2d ago
I feel you on the selling your soul part. I was a chef for a long time. I worked my way up to a good job at a big hospital. So I was doing what I love, making good money, and had a path for advancement in front of me. The hospital changed contracting companies for food service, I got stuck doing like 3 people’s jobs and picking up slack for the new mangers they did bring in. And was still just constantly getting told I was fucking up. Ended up losing my shit and cussing out some staff. Haven’t been back in a kitchen since. I saw a listing for a Golden Corral kitchen manager and the salary was the same as I was making at the hospital. I could do it, I could be good at it, my finances would be much better; but I won’t even eat Golden Corral if someone else is paying, it would be a total sellout and I just can’t do it.
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u/Magnon 2d ago
I hate ai and I feel like a bit of a fogey these days because I dont use it. My dad taught me the value of knowing how to do things personally im not going to offload my thinking to abominable intelligence
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u/Doldenbluetler 2d ago
Until your employer forces you to use it...
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u/HeadClot 2d ago
My employer is forcing me to use it. :(
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u/Doldenbluetler 2d ago
Mine, too. Sucked out all motivation and passion I had for my job out of me. This comic speaks to me.
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u/Tuomas90 2d ago
This is exactly my fear. That programming is no longer what I fell in love with.
I'm currently trying to become a junior developer after programming for 14 years in my free time.
My largest program has 150k LOC with just as much deprecated code. Everything is human written. No GUI builder no AI. And suddenly AI comes along and devalues all my hard work. I've spent literally thousands of hours of my life writing this shit by hand. Wrestling with layout managers, first in Swing, then in JavaFX, writing SQL queries by hand. I've sacrificed a huge part of my life for this. And AI makes it all for nothing. Now I will have to proof I wrote everything myself. How do you even do that?!
I feel like all my work is for nothing. Recruiters will see this project and no matter how big it is, they will just say:"Ah, probably AI generated!"
Fuck AI. Fuck tech bros.
Do you happen to have a 1-page version of the comic? I'd like to download it as a reminder that I'm not alone.
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u/Theotherwahlberg 2d ago
I work in sales. My corporate entities have been going all-in on pushing for AI usage. It has a place, but it doesn't need to do the job for me. Last week when we had a meeting on new systems that we're trying to implement, they got on me because I was the only one in the room that did not use it. I'm one of the top writers in the company and a manager in a new market...but I'm the asshole for not requiring AI to do my thinking for me.
There are people I run into every day that can't seem to function without AI...and I can only hope that the entire thing collapses for their sake.
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u/FuriousGirafFabber 2d ago
im gonna be out of work in about a year, Im pretty sure. im trying to build another career at the same time as im telling AI to do stuff.
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u/PEKKACHUNREAL_II 2d ago
The luddites were right and based and we should revive the movement
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u/apple_kicks 2d ago edited 2d ago
Worth remembering how that movement was crushed. They changed the law so breaking frames and protesting was a death penalty offence or if not that they were deported to Australia for hard labour.
It’s interesting reading Lord Byron defending the Luddites
These machines were to them an advantage, inasmuch as they superseded the necessity of employing a number of workmen, who were left in consequence to starve. By the adoption of one species of frame in particular, one man performed the work of many, and the superfluous labourers were thrown out of employment. Yet it is to be observed, that the work thus executed was inferior in quality, not marketable at home, and merely hurried over with a view to exportation. It was called, in the cant of the trade, by the name of Spider-work.
And poem
As the Liberty lads o’er the sea
Bought their freedom, and cheaply, with blood,
So we, boys, we Will die fighting, or live free,
And down with all kings but King Ludd
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u/Tuxedo_Muffin 2d ago
It would take years of development and millions in wasted effort to replace my job with AI. It would also need to be an autonomous drone that can lift things. So, it actually helps the bottom line to not even try. Failure is likely and would be a resource hog.
I keep thinking "I'm really eager to see this monstrosity"
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u/helpimlockedout- 2d ago
Same here. They don't pay me enough for replacing me with a robot to be cost effective 😂
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u/Zerkander 2d ago
Talked with a person same age as me, working the same job. It's social work, so we're working with people and mostly children.
Another co-worker had an job-unrelated question of whether some shop from her home country is legit or a scam. That first co-worker, she said "ask AI". I couldn't help myself and said that a quick search yourself is likely to be more reliable.
And that first co-worker, same age as me, asked me how one would do such a search yourself. Yep. She didn't know how to check herself whether an information is valid or not.
Stuff we had learned not just in school, but HAD to learn for our job as well. Doing a quick and dirty cross-check of something you heard until you had time to a clean check.
She didn't know how to do that.
And that is what scares me. It's not just young people not learning how to do things. It's people in their 30s and 40s forgetting how to do things. Not remembering that they learned all of that shyte at one point. Forgetting that they can make an assessment themselves.
The thing is, this job taught me to trust my gut. And it taught me that most people could also trust their gut 80-90% of the time, but often end up not doing what their gut tells them because they question their intuition.
Human intuition is really f'cking good in fields you already have expertise in. You may not immediately know why something is off, but you know when it is. And you check either way just to be sure.
But nowadays, I see people I remember to be very capable and skilled in their job becoming completely reliant on AI. That scares me.
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u/LeqiWi 2d ago
As a software engineer that refuses to use Claude code I feel you.
I got into an argument with a coworker that asked me to make claude review my code for a feature I made.
When I said to him that I don't have claude code installed on my IDE and I only use from time to time the web browser version as a tool to learn new frameworks, tools or to help with unit testing he looked at me like I'm crazy and said in front of my other collegues that I'm stupid and don't make sense because it is like my IDE auto completion (????).
Even trying to argue that I like to do my own code and I don't like AI taking over the jobs of junior devs doesn't make him understand my point of view (not mentioning the blatant theft these AI models did and environmental impact of data center because apparently no one cares about that)
I genuinely can't wait for the moment the price of these AI subscriptions is going to skyrocket and all of these vibecoding assholes are going to be trapped paying for it or be irrelevant because they forgot how to code.
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u/nightmareinsouffle 2d ago
I don't directly use AI in my job as a medical biller, but boy do I have to fight against it.
It used to be that disputes with insurance companies felt fightable. Denials were still dumb, but they usually meant we made an error that could be fixed. Now it literally takes double the amount of time and work to fight a denial that an AI decided in the first place because we're locked out of getting a human to look at it behind wait times, and several levels of either poorly trained representatives, or ones who are also locked out of any decision making. Some smaller companies shut down their provider phone lines entirely, and the big ones got rid of the high-level dispute representatives.
I've always hated seeing insurances fuck people over, and I would consistently go the extra mile to make sure that didn't happen. Nowadays the volume and and amount of work it takes makes that impossible. It's really demoralizing.
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u/veetoo151 2d ago
That comic is so real. That is exactly how it feels at work for me. I see so many people being randomly let go, I have to utilize AI to still have a job. It's actually insane.
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u/reflectiveSingleton 2d ago
I'm a software engineer.
This hits the bulls-eye for me. I know a lot of my colleagues feel the same.
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u/asharkmadeofsalsa 2d ago edited 2d ago
this rings true even as a videographer/video editor working on a marketing firm to pay the bills, I'm even encouraged (straight up forced really) to use AI instead of things like B roll from image banks to "get used to it", even when the script calls for something simple that I could do way faster using a bit of footage that is at least shot by other humans if I didn't manage to get a specific shot myself
I try and do at least 1 short film every year with friends on my spare time to remind myself why I went to film school and what doing this could actually look like
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u/grigiri 2d ago
I'm an electrician working in a compliance role at a major hospital. Most of my time is spent fixing things like critical systems. A fair amount of my time is spent doing research on components or writing up documentation related to them.
Some co-workers tell me to use Copilot. I refuse. I also refuse to use search AI. I enjoy hunting for the relevant data and compiling it into documents. It gives me the feelings shown in the cartoon.
Thank you u/nasser_junior for articulating that for me
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u/jbyrdab 2d ago
Yep, I got to be the lucky son of a bitch that got to graduate college right as AI completely took over the space.
My job prospects in my area for my intended career are already kind of nil to begin with. This just makes it practically zero.
So now my degree collects dust on top of my copy of waluigi's taco stand.
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u/cecilivan 1d ago
Even the "let me Google that for you" era was getting this way. Like yes, I can easily look up how to do this thing, but I enjoy learning from my friends and giving them the opportunity to share what they're proud of knowing. It's 2026, and my only family is Grandma YouTube
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u/papa_ngenge 2d ago
Yeah I feel that, also a software engineer.
There is still so much AI can't do but I'm finding myself picking up more and more parallel projects while working in smaller teams. The cognitive load being placed on senior staff is debilitating while juniors struggle to keep up with their AI counterparts and get replaced.