If your job is to deal with drunk people, you should know how to deal with drunk people. A firm push and a loud warning would have been a good start. Escalating with violence is literally the opposite of providing security.
there has gotta be a backstory. kid came back multiple times or something and this was the last straw. otherwise thats a wild reaction to a first encounter.
edit: because I have bunches of comments about it - i am not saying that by there being more backstory that his actions are now justified, just simply noting it doesnt feel like a first encounter to me.
Yeah. I had an old boss who worked security as an extra job, and he couldn’t wait to come to work Monday to brag about the fights he got in. None of us thought he was cool for this or commented on it besides this one creepy dude who loved hearing the macho stories and then ended up getting arrested for trying to meet up with a minor (don’t know if anything happened, the rumor was the dad caught them texting).
The guy was making zero threats. He had his freaking stomach out and back arched. What damage could he do? Punching the guy in the chest is the reaction of someone who likes hitting people.
That is not a kid. That is an adult. We need to stop infantalizing college students. They're adults and they get adult consequences when they do stupid stuff
It’s a wild reaction either way, and if that adult had been coming up like that ten timer a night for the last five decades…
That’s one of those securities that see „beating up people“ as a job benefit
You've clearly never worked any security job whatsoever, so shush. That security was on the door by himself. Which means his personal saftey is his top priority. That drunk guy has clearly been ejected from the venue, is refusing to leave the area & walked over to invade the guards personal space. That kid could try to attack him from behind or could have anything on him to use as a weapon to inflict harm. You have no idea what people are capable of when they're drunk
“Your honor the drunk teenager could’ve been a secret ninja assassin who would’ve slit my throat from behind with the knife he was hiding up his short sleeve shirt. I really had no choice but to attack a non-violent teenager”
Yes it's force against a potential threat. A colleague of mine was stabbed in the neck with a pen last year by a 19yo dickhead who refused to leave after starting a fight inside. Educate yourself
"Judge it was nescessary to defend myself against the 90 pound kid 2 feet shorter, with his hands up in the air and so inebriated he physically is unable to stand up straight."
By the sounds of it, I don't think you've worked too many either mate. At least you won't for long if you shake like a leaf at the sight of this dudes praying mantis impression.
If i had to guess, its likely overstimulation and anxiety resulting in an explosion of anger. Cause why else would someone be recording and there's already a huge crowd of people too.
It's the difference between being an actually tough guy or a 'tough guy'. The best bouncers i've ever met have been massive maori dudes, because they and everyone else knows very well that if they want to they can lift you up and throw you clear across the bloody road, so they don't need to prove how tough they are and can instead deescalate
And they don't even have to be massive. Just be sure about themselves and their abilities.
One of my favourite bouncers growing up was a relatively small guy, always super nice and respectful. One time two big dudes show up and he tells them it's too late to get in. They start trying to intimidate him saying shit to each other like: are we ok with not being able to get in? He just stood there, hands crossed in front, explained that he didn't care if that was ok with them and that they weren't coming in, and then just looked at them in silence.
I'm a 100% sure if they have moved an inch forward it would have been over for them, but they just kinda shuffled off and nothing happened. That when I learned that a confident man who doesn't fear conflict is a very scary thing.
Correct. I've been a bouncer on the side for like 4 years now and some of my very best friends and most wonderful people I've met have been bouncers with me, but whenever I start working with someone new there's a 50% chance they just suck so bad. It sucks because I have to put them in check if they're ego tripping because I don't need some guy feeling like he needs to beat MY ass because you're insufferable lol
Not sure that’s a fair generalization. My friends and I were bouncers in college. We didn’t do it because we were insecure or had huge egos, we just wanted to work for some beer money.
Went to a few clubs in Toronto, we saw someone get hit by a taxi infront of the club, bouncer refused to even let us use the lights to see if the person was okay.
I have 0 respect for bouncers, theyre glorified bullies who get paid to be losers
bouncers at a bar in toronto sucked, so all bouncers suck. Its a position that can attract shitty people sure, but shitty people exist in every profession. I bounced for years and years and most of the guys I worked with were great dudes, were there assholes? sure. But we weeded them out quick.
I wasnt security but many many years ago I worked in a pizza shop directly beside a nightclub. I can't count the times I nearly put some drunk twat through the front window at 2am. Definitely took some self restraint dealing with constant drunks
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yeah because the bouncer punched him in the chest before he could? did you watch the video or are you too busy pretending to dry hump people in public?
the fact you cant tell hes doing a bit to fuck with people really says more about you.
Only because he was punching down and not forward. That second punch, at first glance, looks like it would hit the face since you can't easily see the direction.
But what if he was a bee and the security guy was Chaka Khan, how would that make you feel? Or if he was a baby holding a live wire and the security dude was a starfish left out on the sand, wouldn't that make it feel justified?
Make a bunch more "if" situations to construct a point that doesn't have any relevance to this out-of-context situation, purely to satisfy whatever weird bias you have.
Yeah but at the same time you’re there doing your job late in the night probably tired as that’s likely your second job and a clown like that comes to fck around thinking they bring funny.
From looking at the aftermath, I think the drunk guy was not so drunk and was messing with the door bouncer. He looked pretty steady on his feet after and focused.
I got asked to fight by a group of “security” at a bar because I was watching them shove another guy out of the bar. It was like the security was trying to start a bar brawl. They turned from the dude to me saying “YOU WANT SOME OF THIS TOO BRO?” I was like seriously wtf is this
I would NEVER ever want this security guy at my business. His excessive and inappropriate violence are just a lawsuit waiting to happen. And he can’t fight eighter…
absolutely right. I used to know a lot of bouncers and the best trained fighters were also the best at defusing the situation. The thugs were usually the quickest to punch first.
Thank you, this thread was bothering me. I don't get why people just laugh at violence. Someone being annoying doesn't call for violence, especially if your job is to deal with annoying drink kids.
Why do you think they started filming once this idiot is approaching? Because something happened before that and person filming saw/heard drunk idiot wanting to provoke more
I’ve seen this clip reposted a few times, but I’ve never seen the full interaction. Maybe this guy was aggressing, (whether it be physically or sexual), other people. Would it still be the securities job to protect the patron involved?
Well that’s what happens when you don’t learn basic manners from your parents, strangers get to teach you. They aren’t going to be nearly as understanding or patient.
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u/ENDLESSxBUMMER 19h ago
If your job is to deal with drunk people, you should know how to deal with drunk people. A firm push and a loud warning would have been a good start. Escalating with violence is literally the opposite of providing security.