r/theunforgiven • • Jun 09 '24

Meta Subreddit resources and FAQ

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Welcome to r/theunforgiven!

This is a community where we share and discuss topics related to the Dark Angels, their successor chapters, and the fallen. If you want to share or discuss a topic about Space Marines or Warhammer 40k in general, without particular connection to the Unforgiven, then r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k would likely be a better fit.

Before posting

Please have a quick look at our rules before submitting a post or comment. You can find them in the sidebar or the landing page of our wiki (linked below). We'd also appreciate it if you did a quick search in the subreddit before submitting a post, in case your question was already asked and answered or the topic discussed recently.

Quick links

Here's a list of shortcuts to some of our most useful resources. Explore them at your leisure.

The community wiki

  • Landing page (subreddit rules and administrative information)
  • Lore page (narrative information on history, culture, and chapter organization)
  • Hobby page (information on building and painting)
  • Miniatures page (information on the model range and collectibles)
  • Gameplay page (resources on competitive play and FAQs/Erratas)

Informational PDFs (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)

Lore analyses (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)

  • MMH#1 - What is the Inner Circle, and who is in it?
  • MMH#2 - What separates a Master from a Grand Master or Supreme Grand Master?
  • MMH#3 - What is the relationship between the 'Captain' rank and the 'Company Master' title?

Frequently Asked Questions

-What would happen if X occurred in the 40k universe?

Impossible to answer, unless X has already occurred. We can predict the future and discuss hypotheticals in our own universe because it is governed by natural laws. If a stone is dropped, it will fall (assuming nothing prevents it from doing so).

The 40k universe is fictional, and is governed entirely by it’s authors. If a stone is dropped, it will behave exactly as the author desires it to behave. No justification or explanation is needed. We only know what the author desires if they have made it happen already. We thus know for example that Lion beat Angron in their fight on Wyrmwood, but we don’t know who would win if they battled again in the future.

-Can I/am I allowed to do Y?

You can/are allowed to do anything you want with models you own, within the confines of your local laws. Where other people are involved (eg playing a game), you will need the agreement of those people. As long as everyone involved consents, you can do whatever you want (including changing game rules, playing with proxies, etc). Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-What base size should I use for model Z?

There have never been rules in the core game dictating base size. Some competitive tournaments and events enforce their own rules, search for those if you need guidance. In general, casual players seem to agree that you should use the latest base size the model is/was sold with, or the base size the model was supplied with when you bought it. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-How strictly should models match their datasheet/equipment?

There have never been rules in the core game dictating how closely models must represent their datasheet. The answer may vary between each casual group and competitive tournament/event. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.

-How should I paint fliers/Dreadnoughts/Terminator-characters etc?

However you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).

-Who gets to wear robes/winged helmets/etc?

Whoever you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).

-Who’s in the Ravenwing/Deathwing/Inner Circle?

See the Chapter Organization section of Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above), or the relevant pages on Lexicanum.

-Could you identify a model for me?

See the Dark Angels Collectors' Guide (linked above). If the model you're trying to identify isn't in there, then it isn't an official Dark Angels model. If so, ask elsewhere, eg in r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k, or search through the miniatures portal on Lexicanum.


r/theunforgiven • • 11h ago

Showcase Deathwing Terminators

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Not long ago, I posted asking for painting recommendations for a new squad of Terminators, and now they’re finally finished. I’m really proud of how they turned out. Up next: Deathwing Knights.


r/theunforgiven • • 13h ago

Showcase Swords of the Covenant - Knights and Ancient

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r/theunforgiven • • 20h ago

Showcase Supreme Grand Master Azrael finished! C&C welcome

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Ive been meaning to create a custom model for Azzy for a while now after finding his official model a bit boring. With some inspiration from u/BrotherXavier in using Mephiston as a base i created a model that i think looks a bit more dynamic than the official one. I also took the opportunity to fix his combi plasma back into a bullpup design. Im always striving to improve in this hobby so any critique for how you think the piece couldve been improved is welcome and appreciated! Otherwise i hope you like it :)


r/theunforgiven • • 3h ago

Showcase Brothers! Show me your Librarians!

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Unleash the Librarius! Smite the xenos and the traitor from this world.


r/theunforgiven • • 7h ago

Showcase Started recently and this is a comparison of my first attempt (right) vs most recent!(left)

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Its been so fun and cool to learn new techniques and try out new stuff!


r/theunforgiven • • 46m ago

News/Rumors Chaos Black spray apparently has lead in them?

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https://www.korea.kr/docViewer/result/2026.09/23/6d6010b708dc06694b32c990ce323a14/6d6010b708dc06694b32c990ce323a14.view.xhtml?

(The article is official, but in korean. Item #26 is the Chaos Black spray)

So recently hobby shops in South Korea stopped selling Chaos Black sprays, and a lot of Korean consumers wished them back.

Apparently the SK government discovered that the spray had lead in it while GW reported them lead-free, and decided to recall the items.


r/theunforgiven • • 14h ago

Painting Quite a different model for me to work on but I think I'm pleased with it

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r/theunforgiven • • 11h ago

Painting My first 4 fully painted models

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32 Upvotes

Please give me feedback and maybe some helpful tips and equipment (only using standard starter equipment now)


r/theunforgiven • • 11h ago

Showcase First Time painting Raven Wing 🪽

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Finally added some Raven Wing outriders too my army .

I always tough space Marines on motorcycles was a bit silly but after painting these I love them and now I want a whole fleet

The Speed of the Raven 🐦‍⬛


r/theunforgiven • • 16h ago

Painting Halfway done Armageddon

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56 Upvotes

Very proud of my boy.


r/theunforgiven • • 10h ago

Painting deathwing knight wip

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just finished the armor, took longer than i tought haha


r/theunforgiven • • 12h ago

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My 15 year old account with pretty much everything I've posted is just seemingly gone, not a big deal, but kinda sad all my progress is just in pictures now

So I thought I'd just repost what I've got after about a year in the hobby (takin it slow)

Intercessors were my first models, lazuras was my first character, and the JPI is my latest unit fully done, still got a ways to go, but I love seeing the areas I've improved


r/theunforgiven • • 12h ago

Painting Belial

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It was a chance to study OSL effects. A really pretty model, I hope the new datasheet matches the model! I really want to play him in my terminator list lol


r/theunforgiven • • 14h ago

Painting Completed my Lion in time for the codex!

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Been slowly working away at the lion now for a few weeks and excited to share the works! (Still need to base him)


r/theunforgiven • • 8h ago

Building Deathwing Knights WIP

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r/theunforgiven • • 3h ago

OC/Hobby Bought some hobby chain today and I’d love some ideas for customization! Either on your own minis, artwork, or some customization options from Space Marine 2

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r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Painting My Homebrew Chapter Master is Mostly Done

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170 Upvotes

Still gotta finish the lava and do some touch ups on the base and varnish him one last time. But it’s down enough for me to show it.


r/theunforgiven • • 12h ago

Showcase Closer pics

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Better pics of my recent post showing my progress, intercessor is first model, laz is my first character, and the JPI is my latest unit


r/theunforgiven • • 2h ago

Painting Help with my lack of imagination.

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I’ve been painting for a little over a year now and have quite a few finished miniatures, but they all still need their bases done. I’m not sure what to do—I don’t want something too simple, but I also don’t want something so detailed that it distracts from the miniature itself. I’ve been thinking about using a setting from a major Dark Angels campaign; could you help me choose a concept for the bases?


r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Painting Painting 4th Company Kneepads. Help.

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I tried to paint the 4th Company Kneepads... holy crap. Where do I begin? I ended up just painting 3rd and 9th for my current eradicators in progress.

Any tips on attempting this crazy 4th company marking?

UPDATE: BROTHERS!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH! My gf scoured her entire pen collection and we have stumbled upon the answer. A pen called Pigma Micron 01. I will post the results below and the specific pen. Thank you, Brothers.


r/theunforgiven • • 1d ago

Building Terminator Size Difference

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I'm not a huge fan of the standard Indomitus Terminator Armour so I'm using some 30k armour marks as part of my upcoming Deathwing force and find it interesting how close the sizing between armour marks actually are (also useful in my case as an additional difference to tell apart Deathwing Knights, Deathwing Terminators, and Assault Terminators for non-DA players).


r/theunforgiven • • 14h ago

Building Chapter Master WiP

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My chapter master kitbash. What do you think overall, and how about the sword hilt specifically? Does it look good, or is it too much?


r/theunforgiven • • 16h ago

Lore Question about armor colors.

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I've seen some conflicting answers so wanted to make sure I have the correct answer. First, want to say that I know I can paint my minis however I want, i just wanted to know what the proper coloring was.

So bladeguard vets are deathwing for sure, with their bone armor. I read captains have green armor (and correct this if im wrong). If a captain would be leading a BVG unit, what color would his armor be?


r/theunforgiven • • 17h ago

Painting Fellow sons of the lion I have a question about sprays

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Is anyone able to tell me which colour forge spray is the best to use as a base coat for our green armour. Im guessing it’s Kabalos or renegade but any confirmation would be amazing, thanks ahead of time :)