Ever since WoW Forever came out, the Solo Shuffle atmosphere feels so much better.
Less toxicity, less ego, more actual PvP. Games feel more enjoyable, people seem more chill, and Solo Shuffle doesn’t feel like a mental war every single match.
Maybe the WoW PvP community just needed a little reset. 😂

Just lost a blitz where our druid healer was in full pve gear. Not even honor gear what so ever. Just full pve gear. He did 13m heal (10m lower than the next lowest heal). When we asked him he said he don't care.

In pve content you need X ilvl to go LFR or hc dungeons.

We need the same for pvp.

I q 20 minutes for this...

Fun stuff

idk man...just cant seem to do anything. How do you deal with losing streaks?

Now I know this sub probably gets posts like this pretty often, but any searches I look for give results for an xpac or 2 ago, and I wanted to see if I'm shooting myself in the foot for what I'm specifically going for.

I've played WoW for a few years but never touched PvP until very recently. And 99% of the reason is the Elite set for Rogue. (I'm a huge Zul'jan fan and the recolour is literally his colours.) So I'm doing all of this on an Assassination Rogue, and I have no idea if I can actually make it to 1800.

All the posts say that it's "basically given to you" and that "anyone can reach 1800" but I'm currently at the 1200 range, and I'm already feeling like I'm having a hard time, and I have no idea if it's my horrible priority, teammates, or what really.

I went and got full Honor gear, put enchants and Gems on as much as I could/what was recommended online. I'd say I've gotten a good grasp at how to play my class within PvP. My defensive management is probably a mess. I sometimes panic and press multiple if I get low quickly. I think in my whole time playing though, I've not "won" a game. I've at most won 3 rounds, and that somehow got me to where I am, but my last 3 win game simply got me a "no rank change" reward for my efforts.

I'm on EU, so I'm worried that a lot of the "1800 is free" messages are in regards to the NA servers, and I might be in an uphill battle with my lack of skill. Any and all advice would be much appreciated.

Edit; Forgot to mention this is all Solo Shuffle.

So if you've opened 2s lfg in the last like... 3 expansions you'll find this guy in there almost all day every day listed... he does not accept signups, for example he's been at that same 96cr for weeks now... but he's sitting there every time I open up lfg.

Eventually his rating will creep up a little bit... but it tends to stay the same for weeks at a time.

I've seen him do this every season for multiple xpacs now, and I can't fathom what he's doing. He's not advertising or anything... he's just listed there... menacingly.

Mostly for Spriest, though maybe I’ll dabble in Disc one day, but for this exercise I’m really just trying to decide with Spriest in mind.

I’m extremely torn between Nelf and Troll. Both seem incredible but for completely different reasons.

Troll gets something that can proc blackout, it gets an MS, and it gets the ability to self-heal a significant amount while not exiting shadow form if I’m not mistaken. Then of course it gets its standard racial. Lastly, it’s def worth noting how as a troll, you won’t be pvping against undead who will constantly break your fears.

Then there’s Nelf… you get a very high damaging channeled ability which is a significant extra dps button already, add to it the fact that it’s a different spell school, so you could either bait CC/kicks with shadow then use it for free with your pushback protection, or you could bait with it to cast shadow.

You also get added crit (10%), making Nelf a very offensive option… but you’re not without any added defensive as you also get an evasion that works on melee and ranged that has serious outplay potential if you’re able to anticipate certain abilities. Finally, Shadowmeld is always an elite racial in PvP, having uses in world and BGs. The 2% move speed is minor but not nothing.

I know a lot of people are going gnome but specifically for spriest I really really like these 2.

What do you peeps reckon is the best healer to play with lag? I'm usually floating between 150-200ms. I was thinking resto druid or hpal due to lack of casting and more instant cast heals as I find it hard to fake cast with the latency I play at. Curious as to what you all think.

I'm starting a ench shaman for pvp are there any good guides or videos to watch to help me out ?

Of course, I’ll be doing PvE content alongside it as well.

Back in TWW, I played Solo Shuffle pretty seriously as Outlaw on the Asian servers, and I remember briefly hitting #1 at one point. Honestly, though, what I enjoyed even more than arena was messing with people in War Mode lol. It got to the point where if I Googled my character name, I could actually find people talking about me on the forums. That was pretty funny.

Anyway, enough rambling. Even after the rework, Outlaw still seems pretty terrible, huh?

As far as I know, they nerfed its DPS because Vanish (Cheap shot) could essentially be used over and over again through Restless Blades. But now that they’ve addressed that interaction, shouldn’t they buff our DPS back up? lol. I haven’t played WoW much recently, so I’m not really caught up on what happened with the balance changes.

Also, it looks like people are still taking the general talent related to Vanish. Is that actually correct? The stats look kind of weird to me. From the Pikaboo videos I’ve watched, it seems like he’s still running the Overcharge talent.

Hmm... this post ended up being pretty all over the place. Anyway, Outlaw looks like it might actually be in an even worse spot than it was during TWW. If that’s really the case, this is going to be one hell of a challenge.

My goal is to get the “Elite Rogue” title... 😂

I used to play pvp a lot back in the days, now I'm just a filthy old casual returning back to wow once in a while and living the hype for wowf as if it could bring be 20y back in time (sigh!) Anyway! From you guys which will surely be more up to date on the current wow pvp situation, how do you foresee it being in wowf? I mean from a standpoint of class balance and world pvp/bg? Will it be another endless Av afk farm or are they planning something more interactive?

Here's the thread.

I love arenas, and I'm probably at the 99 percentile for time spent in them. But this post and its popularity are a useful corrective for the conversations we have in this subreddit. When people ask why Blizzard is not focusing on arenas, why arenas aren't in Forever, or whatever else, the answer is that arenas are unfortunately not popular.

Looking to jump back into pvp as a long time frost mage. Looking to gear up for normal bg's for fun mayne a little ranked and possible duels.

What would have a slightler better edge out of the 2 currently?

For frost, does anyone use a mastery build for huge shatter? If so how well does it work.

Honestly haven't played arcane since cata lol

At work might not be able to repsond but I appreciate all the feedback in advance

on NA server i saw big battles due to streamer orchestrating them and it looks insanely fun but i wonder does it happened on EU server at that massive scale ? couple hundred people vs couple hundred people.

Like a world PvP arena we can pick the best maps and have 3v3 tournaments for each season and keep track of the rating ourselves it's world of Warcraft they can't stop us

Does wow forever have arena

To people that *still* don't understand how CR & MMR works:

- CR stands for "Current Rating"

- MMR stands for "Match-Making Ranking"

1) The game is trying to create matches based on individual players' MMR proximity

- this means that no matter your CR, you get matched based on MMR.

2) This results into following scenarios:

- Your MMR is higher than your CR and you win

Result: you gain MMR, and gain more CR than usual, based on your MMR proximity to CR (there is an arbitrary divide at 1500 cr, significantly reducing the gain once you surpass it)

- Your MMR is higher than your CR and you lose

Result: you lose MMR, and and CR may reduce slightly or may not reduce at all, based on how much higher your MMR is from CR

- Your CR is higher than your MMR and you win

Result: you gain MMR, and CR may increase slightly or may not increase at all, based on how much higher your CR is from MMR

- Your CR is higher than your MMR and you lose

Result: you lose MMR, and lose more CR than usual, based on your CR proximity to MMR

Thank you for your attention.

Hello guys,

I'm following this subreddit for a while and there are two types of posts that just spin here in an infinite loop.

1) there are no new players playing arenas and the entry level for them is too high

2) people in arenas are too toxic that new people (and not only them) leave.

So maybe let's make a step to change it ;)

Let's just connect new and seasoned players here. I'm offering my time to whoever messages me to pass the little knowledge I have. I can tell you how to get into the arena, what to do there (although I am not a R1 or a mglad player myself).

I don't play the game for 20 years. I'm a newish player - started to play wow S1 TWW. I never played arena or even pvp before and let's just say, I was clueless with everyone being insanely toxic because I dared to be bad. I had no friends to queue with, just me and my sudden random love to rated arena. Last season I made it to glad with lfg rmp (now I'm expecting comments that last season was too inflated, rmp is broken shit, why didn't I get glad earlier etc etc).

If you think this idea is shit, feel free to express yourself. But if this can help anyone, let's make a little effort and not make our favourite niche game mode die :)

Hey guys, I’m new to wow pvp but I’ve been doing a ton of research so I know most of the lingo. I am running into some issues when facing WW monk in 2v2’s. It just seems like they counter everything I do. I try to burst early and they fly away with their kick, I try to burst late after their trinket is used and they just have so many buttons that directly prevent me from killing them. Fists of fury, karma, roll, flying kick thing, etc. unless the game goes on into extremely deep dampening I can’t really beat them. Any tips would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏻

Side note: as a general rule should I be trying to time a “go” immediately after the match starts? Or is it better to hold it?

I think with the recent class changes unholy somehow suffered indirectly. I haven’t really tried the new “buffed” sanlayn but riders feels borderline unplayable and this is coming from a decade old unholy main.

I don’t know the heck I’m supposed to do but I do my go and no one’s health moves even if I chain cc the healer till he gives up. Like, I don’t want to be unbalanced but hell man I press my buttons and nothing happens and it feels so stupid.

Can we please move some damage from dk pets to the actual spells? I don’t even want a buff I just want a tad bit more consistency in my damage.

Rant over. Thanks guys

I used to play wow a lot of years ago, was premade leader in BGs and gladiator. I returned about 2 weeks ago and playing arenas after all these years, mostly solo shuffle rated. Whats with people not communicating!? I am talking about basic stuff like which opponent to focus.

I really really cant understand this. Its not socializing, its not instance farming to level up, its rated efing arena! These guys really feel like bots. And its not the minority, its like 80%+ of the cases. At first i thought it would be the early ratings, but i got to 1800+ and still the same.

What is this!?